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00:05we almost saw some jj mccarthy magic at metlife stadium after jamis winston was binged cam
00:12scadaboo gets limited playing time those are some of the storylines coming out of the giants loss
00:18to the saints on sunday what's going on everybody this is your blue rush post game i guess after
00:24further review show for the new york post brendan london here long time giants beat writer for the
00:30paul schwartz uh paul let's i mean let's get straight into this because it was a game that
00:38when people said that the saints were favorites on the road i'm like you guys are absolutely crazy
00:45but someone said you want to know why because vegas doesn't trust jamis winston so let's vegas
00:51shows that the house always wins um jamis winston benched your thoughts on how he played versus jj
01:00mccarthy coming in to almost save the day and if you're john harbaugh where do you go with the
01:07quarterback situation going forward wow no no no um no drinks no flowers no nothing we're getting
01:15right into the heart of this huh right right right into it yeah we're not we're not messing around
01:21here look this is this is the big decision this is what separates the men from the boys as far
01:26as
01:27you know the nfl uh hierarchy you got one or you don't got one and you have two then it's
01:32a problem
01:32if you're thinking about well what should we do with this guy look injuries are injuries right
01:37jackson dart went down they had to replace him with jamis winston that's not a decision that's a that's a
01:42situation um now we've got a we've got a um not a controversy yet but we definitely have a discussion
01:49um here's what i think um the giants have to get out of the experience business when it comes to
01:57the
01:57quarterbacks you know the jam you know we all have fun with it right the jamis winston experience um
02:04it can't be an experience you know and and and he's too much of an experience now i'm not saying
02:09they
02:09should you know bench him and not bring him back but um it's kind of like you know okay the
02:14experience
02:14he's gonna he's gonna do some great things he's gonna do some really bad things he'll win some
02:18games he'll lose some games and you know when the dust clears it'll be interesting and probably
02:23exciting and frustrating and you'll lose a little bit more than you win right okay that's not that's
02:28not a viable way to go um i do think it's a little bit of eye candy and fool's gold
02:35maybe a lot what
02:36we saw in the fourth quarter with jay with um jay mccarthy let's face it you've been on that field
02:42you know the saints actually took out some of their starting defensive players and yeah and kellen
02:48moore actually afterwards said yeah maybe that was a mistake maybe i shouldn't have done that
02:52we score a touchdown it's 34 to 10 with 11 minutes to go he starts taking some guys out the
02:58giants are
02:59in complete pass mode jay mccarthy's flinging a ball over the place now he flung it pretty darn well
03:05i mean let's face it he throws fastballs out there right he throws you better get your head
03:10around he throws fastballs and he had nothing to lose he threw an interception i mean he threw for
03:15what his his totals of 14 for 26 for no no 11 for 21 for 243 one touchdown one interception
03:26were all in the fourth quarter i mean that's a lot of stuff going on in the fourth quarter so
03:31um
03:31and that's a lot you know did you see the stat that his 243 passing yards in the fourth quarter
03:38were more than justin herbert has in any game this season for the chargers justin herbert he's
03:44supposed to be this this massive arm he had jay off the bench had more yards in the fourth quarter
03:50than herbert has all season in the game what does that tell you that's you know the saints were in
03:55prevent they were you know trading you know yards and even points for for time um i'm not going to
04:03make an opinion yet i'm going to let you say yours and then i'm going to go with mine okay
04:07but i just do
04:08think that it was um interesting what happened in the fourth quarter and at least gives us reason to
04:15debate whether jay jay's the starting quarterback in houston what do you think i i've there's three parts
04:21to me and the consensus or so let me break down the three parts the wide receiver you're rubbing
04:29your head it's hard it's it's a hard one no it's not i don't think it is paul not from
04:34not from here
04:35on out because again there's three parts to me the wide receiver the coach's son and then the the him
04:40seed the giants the the fan the fan in me wants jamis winston because it's fun it's exciting when he's
04:47slinging it met like stadiums uh having a good time or just you're you're at a bar you're just
04:53having a good time when jamis winston is slinging it the coach's son in me was going with jay jay
04:59mccarthy because head coaches especially a head coach like john harbaugh he don't do experiences he
05:05doesn't do backup experiences he doesn't he you look at the 18 years he was with the ravens when he
05:11had
05:11snoop huntley and those guys step in for lamar jackson wasn't saying it was pretty it was beautiful
05:17but he didn't really go through and experience that much with any of those quarterbacks and then
05:23the last part of me that third side the wide receiver side of me says jay mccarthy as well
05:28because they're throwing the football down the field plus you have a quarterback that can be mobile
05:34enough to extend the play you look at some of the deep throw to malik got out of the pocket
05:40made
05:41something happen through the football down the field same thing that to ryan jones where he made a
05:46remarkable catch and then he had the scramble the big scramble that chunk played to get them down
05:52there to put them in position to try and score to win that football game so if i'm the league
05:59neighbors
05:59or if i'm i'm isaiah likely i i don't i don't want i'm john harbaugh i don't want an experience
06:06anymore i want to go with the guy who i feel as though is going to give me the better
06:12chance to win a
06:13football game and there's a thing in the nfl and the pro sports when you get to a certain age
06:18or you
06:18get enough veteran experience in the league and you've hit your peak what do they say let's go to
06:26the young guy and see what we can get out of the young guy because we know what the older
06:32guy is going
06:33to give us we know what jamis winston is going to give us and for a large part of that
06:39game and the
06:41beginning of the washington commanders game he didn't give much didn't give anything so yeah they
06:48scored the opening drive that's great i'll put give that more credit to the coaches scripting the
06:53first 10 15 20 plays after that you're going to get the same blueprint rush for drop seven double malik
07:04and isaiah likely and see if the pass rush can get there to jamis because he's not going to hurt
07:09you
07:09so two out of three parts of me dr jekyll mr hyde and b london is saying i'm going to
07:17go with jj
07:18mccarthy from here on now and jamis if i need you then i need you to step in and hopefully
07:24give us a
07:25good experience i'm i'm team jj mccarthy on this one that's fine you know you could hear jamie you
07:30know jamis has been through it you know he's not going to be blindsided by anything you could tell him
07:34after the game that he was thinking i wish that i put us in better opportunities and i you know
07:39you know you could tell jamis is ready for whatever comes next now it's so strange last week in the
07:45second half jamis was lights out right and and you know they're down 14 now he was really bad you
07:51know
07:51you you you get behind because of the quarterback and then you you pull even and make you have a
07:57chance
07:57to go ahead of cam scatterwood doesn't fumble because of the quarterback so you know in the second
08:02half again in washington he was great then he was he was you know good on the opening drive and
08:07then
08:07he's really bad he throws two interceptions we get all that um i'm not a believer this is not high
08:13school you know i'm not a believer in oh they owe it to jamis to let him start in houston
08:18there's no
08:19owed anymore right there's just no owed i mean it's just not the way it is you owe a player
08:23his contract
08:24and his money and his dignity but you don't owe him you know his playing time you just don't um
08:30now if you look at this okay so you have one game in houston against look the texans have have
08:37figured it out again you know they were supposed to be a good team they were oh and four and
08:42you look
08:43at it and say wow in a couple of weeks the giants are playing the texans they could be really
08:45bad we
08:46know they're not really bad they know they were playing really badly and they do have top-notch
08:52players on defense they've won their last two that was always going to be a difficult game now more so
08:57because the texans are on a winning streak so you could say and then there's the buy right so you
09:02could say let's give jamis this game let him start um you know things go well you know he's not
09:10he's
09:10doing enough things to help us win the game he stays in the game if he's no good we can
09:14pull him again and
09:15we can put jj in and then it's probably going to be jj moving forward and then that might help
09:20jj because
09:22jamis winston starts this game then you have the buy then you want to make a move jj's got two
09:28weeks
09:28he's got a week off and he you can do even more for him you know with the playbook and
09:33things like
09:34that he'll be more further advanced and he hits the ground running after the bye week um
09:39i just think that that the stuff we saw with jj in the fourth quarter is not you know what
09:46did john
09:46harbaugh say that's not normal football he was impressive athletically but that's not normal
09:53football that's not the way he will open up the first quarter against the texans i don't think it's
09:58any problem right now this is not one game to get into the playoffs let jamis start get him ready
10:04jamis is no dummy like i said he knows what's going on let him start plays well he stays in
10:12the game
10:12i don't think he gives you no chance to win at halftime if things are going haywire then you put
10:17jj in and you don't look back um i i i think it's okay it's a road game right if
10:23it's a home game the
10:23fans are going to get restless fans always want the next the new thing they do us they do they
10:28love
10:28jamis until until now jj looked really good um yeah i'm still saying let's not make jj mccarthy
10:35into what we saw in that fourth quarter yet because that's not that's not the way they're
10:43going to play and that's not the quarterback he has been he's more mobile he can sling it he did
10:49throw an interception so i still stay the course with jamis and then go from there that's my thought
10:57you said give him a half okay i'll give him a quarter i'll give you i will give you a
11:03quarter
11:03because you don't want to throw jj mccarthy in the game on the road in the second half and let's
11:11say you're down 14 points and expect to get a honest evaluation of a jj mccarthy when you're
11:18already down two possessions on the road against a really good football team that's figuring it out
11:24getting back to to what they were so i'm i i'm with you because i okay that wasn't normal football
11:30but this is going to trans transition into our next topic when we talk about scataboo in this
11:36run game the reason why i put jamis on a short or short leash i'm allergic to this kind of
11:43this
11:44kind of sanity you know what i mean that's why he just sneezed i'm allergic to it i'm i'm i'm
11:49trying
11:50to i just you see these grays it's not because of a three-year-old it's not because of the
11:57three
11:57teenager he's hit that age where he's like no dad and talking back no one's from giants football
12:02watching going on this roller coaster ride of going up down up down like once once jackson dart
12:09went down i understood every game was going to be closed it's going to be bad it was going to
12:13come
12:13down to you know the one possession games i understood that but i didn't expect it to go the
12:19way that it did that that the way that is it's going so that's what i'm saying jj mccarthy comes
12:26in
12:26there throws for 243 but then in that one quarter paul he's also the leading rusher of the football
12:35team in that one quarter with two rushes for 26 yards and a long of 28 so it's all so
12:44the fact that
12:45you had to i guess let's say bench cam scataboo john harbaugh called out the entire running back room
12:53i'm not getting enough that means i have to have a quarterback back there that can help when it came
13:02to the run game jackson dart was on fire against the cowboys but who was the team's second leading
13:09rusher that game jackson dart so the run game isn't helping jamis and i guess jamis not helping the run
13:19game like you're not you're not getting you it's not complimentary football between the player and
13:25that part of the offense so that's why i would say jj mccarthy but i didn't expect there's times i'm
13:31looking around i'm like was cam scataboo a healthy scratch i'm like where is this dude to one of the
13:37security guards when i'm standing on the field he was like no he's over there standing look like one of
13:44those kids at pop warner that that that knew he wasn't gonna play his mom was like you didn't do
13:49the dishes you didn't do your homework you can dress but you're not gonna play cam scataboo he he looked
13:55he looked real lonely on that on the sideline paul and i know he had a chance to talk to
14:01you guys
14:01after the game and stuff so give us your thoughts on that yeah well here's the snap counts for the
14:06running backs okay cam got in for six snaps six snaps and and you know he didn't get a carry
14:12and john
14:12harbour said well that we wasn't he wasn't we were not giving the ball we didn't call for running
14:16plays there he all you know harbour also said he wasn't benched you know he was benched he was
14:22benched you know he wasn't benched for the whole game but yet so here this these snap counts make no
14:27sense to me cam had uh cam scataboo had six snaps now look that was a terrible fumble last week
14:33there
14:34were repercussions and that was it's not like he had been running really well this is not a a cook
14:39situation in buffalo right where he's running great but he just can't hold on to the ball
14:44you know the running game has not been good and he's fumbled four times in the first five games so
14:49so to to put him on the shelf for a game is not unwarranted you can do that but you
14:56have motor
14:56singletary devin singletary 29 snaps tyrone tracy jr 26 snaps najay harris 11 snaps najay harris after the
15:07game was was confounded you know i was talking to him after the game and he's like i said well
15:13you started right yeah did you expect to get the ball more and he was like you know he didn't
15:18want
15:18to he didn't want to come out and be that guy you know what i mean he got four rushing
15:22attempts
15:22najay harris for two yards and that was it so you know you start you know say brandon london you're
15:28starting right okay great you're all pumped up and you have a history of being a really productive guy
15:33who starts and then all of a sudden you get out there you run four routes and and and and
15:38and you
15:39don't do anymore so he was he was you know completely befuddled he said i've never been in a situation
15:44like this where you know i don't know who the guy is you know tyrone tracy told me we don't
15:50have a
15:50quote unquote starter you know what you know it was cam scadaboo now it's not um you know motor singletary
15:57was a was a healthy scratch three consecutive games and then he gets 29 snaps and what four
16:04rushing attempts so you know they got to figure it out now now none of these guys tech corner you
16:11know quote unquote deserves to be the starter based on how they're playing you got to pick a starter
16:17you got to pick a number two running back and you got to run with them and ride with them
16:21i think
16:22you know everybody from naji harris to tyrone tracy even patrick ricard who's had 11 rushing attempts
16:29in 10 years in the nfl said i know running backs they need the ball they need playing time to
16:35get
16:35in a rhythm you know tyrone tracy and naji harris said you can't get in a rhythm where you know
16:41you
16:41get a cat okay i see what the defense is doing here you get another one okay i see what
16:46they're doing
16:46now you can figure it out and set them up by the time that happens you're out of the game
16:51you're not
16:51getting the ball so this is on the whole coaching staff um you know the fumbles are are the players
16:57and the lack of production is i think mainly the offensive line which is not showing any power at
17:03the line of scrimmage but these running backs cam scatter was taking two was too fast into the hole
17:09you know he he said he said previously oh early in the game i like to put a hit on
17:14somebody you know
17:15i'm not looking to break tackles what are you talking about you should be looking to break tackles
17:19right away you know don't settle for a three yard game get a 10 11 yard game i think it's
17:24all messed
17:24up um i would endorse tyrone tracy tyrone tracy had two better seasons with the giants and cam
17:30scatter who has had as a rookie with the giants and into his second year naji harris i think is
17:37still coming back from an achilles i think he's a he's a an option but you know i think it
17:44should be
17:44tyrone tracy and cam scatterball and a little bit of the other guys and one guy's not active
17:49that's what i think here's what someone said to me in the parking lot after the game we're going back
17:55and going back and forth about i mean i completely agree someone's got to step it up you heard me
17:59say
17:59it last week and you even before the the the year someone's got to take that title and one of
18:06the
18:06things i was just hanging out with and stuff and and the parking lot goes the giants running back room
18:12is a bunch of side chicks he was like you don't want to marry none of those guys like you
18:17don't
18:18want to like you don't want to marry none of them they just the side chick and i'm like elaborate
18:23explain because i'm laughing i'm the funniest thing i've heard you know all all week and uh and he was
18:29just like they don't do the things the small things that you want a wife that the one you want
18:37to put
18:37a ring on he's like john harbaugh ain't marrying none of those dudes right now because they're not
18:44giving him anything it's not you're not making him right that in the cam scatterboot situation
18:52i john harbaugh took heat post game because everybody's like oh why don't you just keep
18:57the field goal from there while you keep running the football running football i'm trying to help out
19:01another player a kicker who struggled by putting the ball into a guy that you're you're my bell cow
19:08you're the guy that i said okay nags greg roman all you guys let let let scats number one scat
19:14will be
19:14our number one you put the football on the ground so it's not so that six players or whatnot like
19:21it's
19:22not it's not prison it's probation because tyrone tracy jr had to go through the same thing he got
19:28jackson dart lit up he fumbled uh in the preseason then fumbled the first game he had to sit for
19:33a
19:34bit wait for his op or re-wait for an opportunity had the two touchdowns yesterday look serviceable
19:40look good maybe he gets the bulk of the carries from here on out for him to show but one
19:45of these
19:45guys got to step up because beyonce's got that song if you like it then you should have put a
19:51ring
19:51on it john harbaugh is not putting a ring on not one of these guys right now we blame the
19:57offensive line
19:58i don't want to go back to that you know we we do the whole hog molly thing and all
20:02and and why
20:03saquon couldn't get going here i think the offensive line has been serviceable enough one of these guys
20:10got to step it up man because the quarterback you can't be relying on a quarterback to be a top
20:17two
20:18rusher on this team or in this case yesterday the number one rusher on the team but guess who was
20:25the
20:25second guess who had the second most yards rushing darnell moody darnell the receiver on one reverse
20:34this is a run identity football we are running the football is what john harbaugh and these guys said
20:41you got the luxury of bringing in greg roman who everyone throughout the course of the nfl has called
20:47him a run game guru because of his schemes and all we you we traded dexter lawrence out of here
20:53brought
20:53cc mawanoa back in here it should be enough it should be enough this is you guys's offense and
21:02you're giving me absolutely nothing somebody's got to step up brandon what does it say to you john
21:09harbaugh came in right tyrone tracy jr was on the roster camp scadaboo was on the roster right
21:14devon singletary was on the roster nausea harris was not so you had scadaboo tracy and singletary
21:21who did they want in the draft jeremiah love they wanted jeremiah love they would have taken jeremiah
21:28love they couldn't get him he went you know in the top three picks i'm thinking what does he want
21:34jeremiah love he really wants a running yes he wants a running back he wants his derrick henry he wants
21:39his ray rice he want so he looked at the roster and looked at tracy and scadaboo and and singletary
21:46and
21:47said i want someone better if i can get someone better um you know right that's what he said he
21:54knew he knew so um look they can do better than this and cam scadaboo had you know was more
22:01effective
22:01last year but um look they're gonna have to make it work like you mentioned greg roman uh matt nagy
22:06john harbaugh they're gonna have to make it work um one way or another and um because you know no
22:12matter
22:12which quarterback whether it's mccarthy or jamis it's going to be a problem if they're running for
22:17you know 30 40 yards with their running backs so you're saying harbaugh looked at the roster and
22:21was like i see two long time girlfriends but not fiancee wifey material i'm still still looking still
22:28still playing the field and all i got a girlfriend now paul so i'm you know i'm done with all
22:32that and
22:33she's gonna listen to this and be like why you bring up dating and all this so hope i didn't
22:37get
22:37myself in trouble with that one uh uh there but uh go ahead wrap this thing up paul as they
22:41get ready to go
22:42down to houston and what i call a must win because after that loss yesterday i understand the
22:47commander's game was a tie but in my head that was a loss now like that commander's game was a
22:53loss in
22:54terms of feelings and not being able to take a step or or take advantage of a nfc east that
23:01is pretty
23:02banged up and weak right now so final thoughts going into uh sunday as we prepare to get ready for
23:09the week
23:09to do uh our our blue rush preview show okay i don't agree with you that it was like a
23:14loss because
23:16the cowboys lost to the packers right the eagles lost to the panthers that that tie could end up
23:22being very important near the end of the year as far as getting the giants to maybe win the division
23:28i
23:28mean i don't know if they can sustain that but you know they have their records better than the other
23:33teams right now um look it's it's a very big week for the giants i don't consider it a must
23:38win if
23:38they go three three and one into the bye once jackson dart went down i mean you have to remember
23:45jameis winston was two oh and one in his three starts you know you know what i mean so it's
23:51not
23:51like oh everything went haywire with him he didn't play great in a lot of those games but he played
23:56they were two oh and one with him as a starter and now they're two one and one with him
24:02as a starter
24:02so um look it's going to be a slog uh the giants are going to be you know they weren't
24:07going to be a team
24:08that's going to win 10 games this year so um but it's a very big week to for john harbaugh
24:14to say
24:15who is my quarterback this is the reason why and i don't care if you like it or don't like
24:20it you
24:20have to rally around this guy um you know these this is the biggest thing around the team is who
24:25is the quarterback and sometimes it's very easy to figure that out sometimes it's not easy this one
24:31is i admit this is not easy i can't we could spend another two hours and you can say jameis
24:37um no you can say mccarthy that's really what you're saying and i can say jameis and i think we
24:42both have really good reasons for yes and really good reasons for no um we'll see it'll be very
24:49interesting this week all right thank you guys for hanging out with us you heard our thoughts about
24:54what went down on sunday we can't wait to see you guys on thursday or friday when we put out
24:59our blue
25:00rush preview show for paul schwartz and brandon london thanks for watching blue rush from the new
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