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CTP (S4E1820Lovecraft In World War II
We talk with horror author Christopher Michael about building a Lovecraft-inspired World War II thriller that reads like a veteran’s hidden memoir. The conversation moves from his Army and law enforcement background to the real occult obsessions and historical horrors that power the Danforth Eldritch Tales series.
• Christopher Michael’s background from Montana to Army deployments and law enforcement work
• Why a side character from Lovecraft sparks the Danforth saga
• Writing Lovecraftian cosmic horror with a less-is-more approach
• Blending WWII espionage with occult terror while keeping history accurate
• Nazi occult interest, Ariosophy, and plundering artifacts for power
• How cosmic horror challenges human hubris and the need for certainty
• WWII history detours from Finland to alliances of convenience
• What’s next for the series, including the CBI theater and the Pacific
• Where to find Christopher online and where to buy the books
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00:00Hello, welcome to another episode of Perstitutionalist Podcast.
00:06I am your host, Joseph M. Leonard.
00:09That's L-E-N-A-R-D.
00:12It looks French.
00:13It's not.
00:14It's Leonard without an O.
00:17Thank you for tuning in, as Graham Norton used to say, on his show.
00:24Let's get on with the show!
00:27Hello, everyone.
00:30This is going to be a quick cheat intro segment.
00:34I'm going to be lazy.
00:35I've got so many guest recordings built up.
00:40I'm going to get lazy and cheat on some Saturdays.
00:44I don't have to dream up a monologue topic this way.
00:49And I'm also not going to say what guest will be appearing,
00:53because I'm going to be lazy and cheat and use this same intro several Saturdays to intro a guest show.
01:04So, as Graham Norton used to say, let's get on with the show!
01:09So, surprise interview!
01:12Take care, Cop Plus.
01:15Cloud, be safe.
01:17Because I've been having computer issues.
01:20But anyway, hey!
01:22We're live now, not really, we're recording, but I'll leave that in.
01:27Yeah, I've been having PC issues, so fingers crossed this goes okay.
01:33Joining me today is Christopher Michael, and we were talking before I hit record,
01:40because we're recording on Friday the 13th, so very appropriate.
01:45And I was joking with him, Michael, as in Michael Meyer, but as he points out, no, it's Jason's day.
01:53But Halloween is past, it would have been appropriate to talk to you and have you on before Halloween or
02:02right after.
02:03But hey, you know, that ship has sailed, as they say.
02:08Those two characters are getting a back-to-back-like thing in a couple of weeks, so they're ruling it.
02:14But you are here, and all of that is appropriate talk, because, and I'm holding up our friend Mickey Nicholson's
02:24release,
02:25showing your book cover to those who see on behind-the-scenes video, my five channels.
02:32Many listen on the 40-plus audio-only channels.
02:36They won't see what we just showed, but your book, and I want to say this slowly so it comes
02:44out right,
02:45The Horror in the Lamplight.
02:49Because there's a joke I could, but I'll avoid, right?
02:53Yeah, I was about to say, it's like if you say it too fast, it kind of comes off a
02:56wrong way.
02:57Yeah, which would also fit of a person who would be in a red light rather than a lamplight.
03:04Or a Friday the 13th movie.
03:08Being killed.
03:10Yeah.
03:13So let's back all this up.
03:15I like to joke, let's back this garbage truck up.
03:19Beep, beep, beep.
03:21Yeah, plenty more to load in.
03:23Yeah.
03:23Who is Christopher Michael?
03:25Where were you born and raised?
03:28Where are you now?
03:31Significant places you may have been in between, that sort of thing.
03:36Oh, boy.
03:36I'm all over.
03:37Okay, so I was born in Vegas.
03:39Moved out of there when I was a kid.
03:43What happened in Vegas?
03:45Vegas didn't stay in Vegas.
03:47No, it didn't.
03:47And now it's out for everybody to experience.
03:51No, and then I grew up most of my life in Montana.
03:55So, you know, I kind of migrated up there.
03:57I think I got up there by about second grade or so.
03:59So I spent all my life in Montana.
04:02Graduated high school there.
04:04Left for the Army pretty quick after high school.
04:09Started out with the National Guard, but I was just kind of like, I needed employment.
04:13So instead of that, I went active duty after, deployed to Afghanistan, and then kind of did a little worldwide
04:20tour going through like Asia with Korea, then Europe, and stationed there in a couple spots where I was with
04:27173rd in Italy.
04:30And, you know, did, like, deployments around training, like Ukrainian troops and things like that.
04:36But it's, and then I came back to the States and got into law enforcement after that.
04:42And I've been doing that for, God almighty, it's going on close to a decade now.
04:48And then, like, with the military, I stayed in for National Guard up until not too long ago.
04:53So it's like, I have close to, between breaks in service, about 15 years of military, close to a decade
04:59of law enforcement.
05:00And then I decided to start my writing back up, which is something I've done all my life.
05:08And I published my first book.
05:11Started out self-published.
05:13But then it got picked up by, and this will be a fun little plug for the Friday the 13th,
05:18my publisher is Crystal Lake Publishing.
05:23I noticed that, yeah.
05:26It's just too many, it's just too many coincidences just colliding right now on Friday the 13th.
05:32It's just too much fun.
05:33So, yeah, with Crystal Lake Publishing, they picked up the first book, and then I put out this second one,
05:39and I have more of the series to come.
05:41And more of the series, I am very, very busy right now trying to crank stories out and still doing
05:48the full-time stuff.
05:50Yeah, okay.
05:51So, yeah, before we, well, the full title is Danforth 2, The Horror in the Lamplights.
06:01But, indeed, before we get to that, let's talk about the first one, then.
06:07Okay.
06:09So, these stories, have you read Lovecraft?
06:13I'm sure it's, like, everybody's.
06:15Okay, so a lot of people have obviously heard of him and stuff.
06:18He's pretty well-known at this point.
06:21He was writing horror, what they call cosmic horror, back in the 1930s, 1920s and 30s.
06:28It was a while back.
06:28But he wrote a story called At the Mountains of Madness, and it had just a side character who was
06:34in the story.
06:37And I really liked this character.
06:39And so I kind of got this thought, like, I was like, okay, well, what if that character actually got
06:43to, like, flesh out and develop and all these things?
06:46So, that story took place in 1930 and 31.
06:49So, I was like, well, where can we go from here?
06:51And I was like, man, happening in World War II would be a really, really cool setting.
06:57So, I, you know, sort of kind of getting on that thing of, like, the, you know, kind of, like,
07:03the Nazi occult things and some of the nasty stuff that they were into at that time.
07:07And it just seemed like those stories and that stuff just rolled together so seamlessly.
07:12Plus, it's, like, just the cool stuff.
07:14I love World War II history.
07:16I love all things about it.
07:18It's such a deep dive if you really start getting into it and stuff.
07:24It's, like, endless amounts of things that you can discover and find out.
07:27And it does say that right on Mickey's release here about the horror in the lamplights.
07:34It's a chilling blend of World War II espionage, occult terror, and Lovecraftian cosmic horror continues the acclaimed Danforth saga.
07:47Mm-hmm.
07:47Yep.
07:48And, you know, it's one of those things where I love the history so much.
07:53I tried to keep – I built the stories around World War II history, in fact.
07:57I actually tried to keep the history as 100% accurate to real history as it is and just tell
08:04this story.
08:05It's told from that point of view of, like, a World War II memoir.
08:09So the character is talking, like, he's writing the story like a World War II veteran would write their memories.
08:16And this was kind of just a story that was going on at the same time World War II was.
08:22And he's just, you know, recounting his memories of this kind of shadow war that was happening.
08:29Mm-hmm.
08:30Mm-hmm.
08:31All right.
08:32I'm making a note here.
08:34Pardon me.
08:35Yeah.
08:38Making notes as we go.
08:41Mm-hmm.
08:42So you already kind of discussed the genesis of it all.
08:48What – it was something that already got you hooked.
08:54And in a way, you're paying homage to what was and trying to put your own additional spin on it
09:05now.
09:06Yes.
09:07Yes.
09:08Yeah.
09:09And that was what I wanted to do is I didn't want to take someone's work that I was kind
09:14of, you know, working –
09:15I guess you could say it was a sequel.
09:18But I didn't want to take somebody's work and, you know, turn it on its head, so to speak.
09:22I don't like things when people take something that someone's creative has done.
09:27I love it.
09:28Let me destroy it.
09:30Yeah.
09:30Yeah, exactly.
09:32Like, they're like, oh, hey, like, we like The Exorcist.
09:35Let's, like, freaking take The Exorcist.
09:37And then we'll make a sequel to it.
09:39And we'll make sure that the church is the bad guy.
09:42Or something that's like, yeah, yeah, that's I'm sure what everybody wants to hear in a demonic movie is that
09:47the people who are supposed to be helping out are the bad guys.
09:51It's like, it's so tired.
09:54But, yeah, so I wanted to basically keep everything the way that it was.
09:58And just feel like I was, like, adding and just, you know, expanding that universe.
10:05And for the people who really loved it, that they would still read this and be like, okay, it's taking
10:10place in the universe.
10:11It's blatantly showing that it's like it's a love letter to Lovecraft's stuff.
10:17And also that it's not trying to demonize him or demonize his writing or any of that stuff.
10:24It's trying to basically build on the world that he already had.
10:28And, you know, and still kind of keep that same, I guess you would say that cosmic horror pattern or,
10:36like, I guess the blueprint that made his writing so good.
10:39Because there's a lot of the less is more type of, you know, horror instead of that blatant craziness.
10:47Whoops, what was all that?
10:51It says you want to record this meeting.
10:54Well, it's a little late.
10:55We're already going.
10:57Yeah, what's going on with that?
10:59And your automated note taker.
11:02Let me see if I can also.
11:04I'm trying to get.
11:06There we go.
11:07Remove.
11:08Remove.
11:08Go away.
11:10Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
11:12Okay.
11:14Anyway, for those behind the scenes video will have seen one of those automatic note taker things tried to kick
11:24in.
11:24And we kicked it out.
11:25I didn't even know those existed.
11:30And because I see down at the bottom two intelligence operations with chilling supernatural threats.
11:37And on and on and on.
11:39I want to be very, very careful what I want and what I'm going to say here.
11:46Because I don't want people.
11:48Oh, my God.
11:49He's defending Hitler.
11:51No, no, no, no.
11:53Not what I'm about to do here.
11:57Hitler was quasi-religious in his way in that he saw things as not godly but indeed spiritual or, right?
12:09The Nazis saw it out.
12:11They saw it out.
12:13The spear of destiny.
12:15They saw it out.
12:17The whole Indiana Jones first movie.
12:21What am I?
12:23Oh, yeah, yeah.
12:25There we go.
12:27All of that stuff.
12:29They wanted it for its power, not its necessarily religious value.
12:38Yes.
12:38And that was one of the big things.
12:40So they had an organization within the SS called the NNRB.
12:44And it was this pseudo-archaeological organization that was basically their whole goal was to go out worldwide, find religious
12:55or any.
12:55And it wasn't even Christian religious artifacts, like you said, like they had like the sphere of destiny.
13:00They were looking for like the Yeti and the Himalayas.
13:04They were looking for all kinds of crazy things.
13:07And they were trying to bring it all back so that they could feed their religious cult kind of view,
13:15which was Hitler, Himmler especially.
13:17He was the big driver of this.
13:19They were into Ariosophy and the belief that the Aryan race was this super superior human race among humans.
13:29And so that was their goal was kind of finding other people's, you know, other religions artifacts or their like
13:39very, very precious items and trying to basically have them so that they could prove that they were better.
13:45It's sort of a bastardization of their religious stuff.
13:49Like if you're taking the Ark to bring it back to Germany to prove that, you know, it's like that
13:54the Ark is a religious piece, like founded that the, you know, the Aryans are the ones that initially got
14:02it.
14:03You know, it was definitely them trying to plunder other religions to basically feed into that occult thing that they
14:12had going on.
14:13Co-op.
14:13Yes, they were co-oping.
14:15Absolutely.
14:16Yeah.
14:17And it goes back to the whole, and I say this on this show all the time, the Bible doesn't
14:27say, and God created life only on terra and only on terra and only in one dimension life created he.
14:36It doesn't say that.
14:37It doesn't preclude alien life elsewhere.
14:41And I was just talking with somebody as a guest on another show.
14:47It doesn't say that.
14:50So it's like the Spielberg disclosure movie, the nun character saying, my dear, why would God create all that space
14:59and leave it empty?
15:00I am of that belief.
15:04God doesn't owe me all the answers.
15:08There are things above my pay grade, right?
15:12Get over yourself.
15:13God doesn't owe you all those explanations.
15:16And indeed, the Aryan beings, supposedly one of the potential 13 or whatever, right?
15:25The tall, white, alien beings that supposedly hit Himmler and all that, believe.
15:34Yeah, they believe they were like giants or something.
15:36Yeah, exactly.
15:38Potentially the Nephilim, which is in the Bible.
15:43Which is not necessarily the thing you want to be descended from.
15:48But again, the point being, we don't have all the answers.
15:54Yes.
15:54And we are not entitled to all the answers.
16:00You know, that's something about the cosmic horror thing that Lovecraft created, right?
16:05It was just that his belief.
16:08Now, I will say that it was like Lovecraft himself was a very staunch atheist.
16:13He was not religious at all.
16:16But one of the things that he did, and I still firmly believe that there's something about this that's a
16:21very, very genius idea, is that, you know, we as human beings think that we understand everything.
16:26We have this superior brain and things like that.
16:30But he created this sort of, this idea that the universe actually had a lot of, like, gulfs beyond space
16:39and time that we're not even in tune with.
16:42And that there actually are things out there that are so either malevolent or they are so infinitely more powerful
16:51and beyond our even comprehension that even if we try to understand them, like, that uncovering knowledge about them can
16:59actually drive us to insanity.
17:01Because our minds can't handle it.
17:03And you have to think that it's like that there's something, if there's a God who created the ultimate universe,
17:10the ultimate creator of all things, space and time, all of that stuff that is like, that the idea is
17:17like, we can't even begin to fathom or understand such a being of that infinite amount of power.
17:26And then to even say that it's like, okay, it's like, this is not God, but there's something out there
17:31less, it could be an alien being, it could be something else, but it could still be something so beyond
17:37our ability to comprehend it, that it would just absolutely blow our mind.
17:42Which is why the whole alien conspiracy, right?
17:46But we are but children to what God is.
17:48We like to think, indeed, God gave us superior intellect of this planet.
17:55We are the highest level of existence on this planet.
18:00Doesn't mean everywhere.
18:03And that goes back to hubris that I talk about on this show and in my constitutionalist politics books, right?
18:10And why, as you're alluding to, some people won't be able to handle it.
18:17Oh, I'm not the end-all, be-all of everything, right?
18:22That's hubris.
18:24It is.
18:25And I think that was like the huge driver of eriosophy and the Nazi ideology was, when it comes back
18:32to it, it was, I think, really the peak of human hubris.
18:36That's the most, I would say probably between that one and, like, I guess you'd say with the Soviet communism
18:45that followed and Mao and things like that.
18:47But just the peak, I think the 20th century was the peak of human hubris that resulted in destructive death
18:57to so many millions of people.
18:59It just, and for that, that feeling of just being superior, whether, like I said, whether it was Nazism, whether
19:08it was communism, I mean, the Soviets, the idea that the, you know, that the Soviets were any less evil
19:15than the Nazis is such a blatant mistake.
19:19Well, if you, like, I mean, for a while there, they were working together.
19:22I mean, they split Poland in half.
19:23They were, they were totally good on everything.
19:25They invaded Finland before Nazi Germany invaded anyone else.
19:31They are the ones who actually started World War II.
19:34And as you said, they went into Poland the same time the Nazis did.
19:39Read all the Churchill stuff.
19:41Yes, they were as evil, potentially worse.
19:44They were never an ally, Churchill described as a necessary partner, a necessary partnership temporarily to defeat the Nazis.
19:57But we all knew they were our enemy, too.
20:00And they would not have done that without our support, too.
20:03You know, it's like, it's, it's really, so yeah, you actually historically brought up something that is not brought up
20:09a whole lot.
20:09Is that, yes, Poland was the catalyst for the Allies jumping into World War II.
20:15Like, once that invasion of Poland happened, that was when the Allies were like, okay, you know, at that point,
20:19like, Hitler had taken, like, Czech and, like, all these other regions kind of absorbed them.
20:23Yes.
20:24He had annexed them.
20:25Not a military invasion.
20:27Correct.
20:28But the first actual military invasion that you could kind of directly tie into World War II was the Rousseau
20:36invasion of Finland.
20:38And that was something that was actually, that actually happened with the support of Nazi Germany and Hitler.
20:45And that they basically knew that it was going to happen and actually were like, yeah, you should do that.
20:51And then that was another thing, too, was when the Finns actually drove the Russians out, that became a thing
20:59where the Germans started looking at the Russians as a failed ally and thought to themselves, you know what?
21:06If the Finns can beat the crap out of these dudes, then I think we can do it, too.
21:11And that preceded the invasion of Russia.
21:13And I will, I don't know if you could say that, that Hitler would have actually fully taken Russia had
21:19it not been for us.
21:21I think that just the vast amount of land there would have been so impossible.
21:25Napoleon failed.
21:26He tried.
21:27Yeah.
21:27But, I mean.
21:30They could have.
21:31They might have.
21:32Yeah.
21:32But the United States providing so much material aid to the Russians was really instrumental.
21:41I mean, like, we provided them with railroad stuff, like trains, like supplies, all of this stuff.
21:47So, we really drove a lot of the Russian war effort that stopped Hitler in his tracks right there.
21:54Because Churchill knew.
21:56Skip Roosevelt, kind of a moron, actually.
22:00Truman, even kind of a moron.
22:02Churchill was the brain of the time.
22:05So was Eisenhower and Pat.
22:07Man, he was a genius, man.
22:09Him and Eisenhower.
22:11Eisenhower is like, the man does not get enough credit historically for what he accomplished.
22:17And it is sad that, like, you know, when we always talk about these great presidents and stuff like that,
22:22I really don't think that enough people really look at Eisenhower.
22:26And, I mean, what he did after World War II for the country, too, with the building of the roads
22:30and everything.
22:31It's like, I really feel like he does not get enough credit for the accomplishment that he did during his
22:37life.
22:37He was an amazing American.
22:40He was a great person.
22:41And people also, because we don't teach civics in history, we've abandoned it for cultural Marxist, social study, leftist, communist
22:52theory, they don't understand why Russia went into Finland.
22:57And they were seeking atomic weapons before we even did.
23:02They wanted Finland for the heavy water operations.
23:06No one knows that today.
23:09And the Germans, I think, were really, honestly, like, on the leading edge of the atomic research.
23:17Well, it's a good thing.
23:19It's a good thing Hitler was anti-Semitic as he was, because he called it Jewish science and didn't fully
23:27fund it.
23:27Yeah.
23:28Where if they would have fully funded it, they would have definitely beat us to the bomb.
23:35You know, it's such a weird thing when you look at what the Germans did and Hitler's choices based on
23:42certain stupid things like that, right?
23:44Like, he was like, oh, it's Jewish science, so let's not fund atomic research.
23:48And then that led to them not getting the atomic bomb.
23:51Right.
23:51And there's a pretty cool operation in Norway where Norwegian separatists, not separatists, Norwegian partisans, actually raided and destroyed an
24:00atomic research facility that probably, had it been allowed to exist, would have led to Hitler getting the atomic bomb.
24:08But, yeah, he didn't fund that.
24:09But nobody knows any of this, because we don't teach any of it anymore.
24:15The other thing that's cool is, it's like, so we always look at our firearms and stuff like that, and
24:21we look at, like, the legendary AK-47.
24:23The Germans were the first ones to develop the Strunggewehr, which was the assault rifle, Hitler, when it came out,
24:30and they wanted to show him.
24:32He said, I don't want that on, it looks stupid, we like our little submachine guns and the rifles, everything's
24:40fine.
24:40His own generals went around behind his back and put those on the eastern front, and then the only way
24:48that Hitler found out was when he wrote to the generals on the eastern front and was like, what do
24:53you need?
24:53And they wrote back, and they said, more of these new rifles.
24:56And he was like, hey, who did this?
24:58And so they were like, before you have us all executed, come out and shoot it, and let's just see
25:04if you like it.
25:05And he shot it, and he was like, this is genius, I want it on the front line all over
25:09the place.
25:09But at that point, it was too late.
25:11The lines were getting separated, Stalingrad was surrounded, they had nothing that they could send to those guys.
25:21Hitler, thank God, was his own worst enemy, or they would have won the war.
25:26Had Reich, had Reich Marshall, uh, oh, I'm drawing a blank on the name.
25:34Rommel?
25:34Well, Rommel, earlier too.
25:36No, Rommel was one of those.
25:38No, who was the one that famously at Nuremberg took the cyanide pill, was second in command of Germany.
25:46No, Reich Marshall Kering, was it?
25:53i mean oh yeah it might have been yeah and i mean they were military experience could you imagine
26:00if him or goering would have actually ascended to the furorship rather than hitler we'd all be
26:08speaking german you know yes and there's also some things too where it's like imagine a world
26:16where if hitler had decided in his own like i said hubris and ambition to push on the united
26:22kingdom well now we have it where it's like if he was like what if he tried to do something
26:27where
26:27you know they conquered france they were already friendly with spain um it got italy and now they're
26:32pushing you know into russia what would have happened if they had actually negotiated some
26:38kind of a ceasefire with the brits and said like hey we will push no further now i don't think
26:44that
26:44would have happened because i think churchill in his wisdom yeah i think it's like that one movie
26:49where he's like you can't reason with a tiger when its ear heads in its mouth it's like he knows
26:54they arrested they arrested hess hess literally flew into britain to seek peace to seek a partnership
27:04because a lot again people don't understand history england germany and russia
27:13kind of all the same family descendancies but you go far enough back in the wolf pile they
27:21were all birds and like all that yes but again oh yeah like because i mean even prince charles is
27:30uh
27:30yeah it was right that's why prince harry it was uh prince harry got into trouble wearing the nazi
27:37uniform well he actually had ties back to that well yeah um what was his name uh not not um
27:45not king
27:46charles but uh his father what was his name uh william print uh print uh no no it wasn't uh
27:53prince uh
27:54prince charles but his father he his dad or his grandpa was a member of the nazi party and uh
28:00it was um yeah it's just when you look at it it's like all those families were all yeah all
28:06over
28:06europe they're all just interwoven and inbred and doing all the kind of weird stuff yeah it's like
28:10yeah so they were all linked in but you know the funny part is is it's like all those dynasties
28:15are
28:16all linked in inbred and all like sleeping together but also at the same time this like despised each
28:23other with like the fire of hell like i don't know what it is it's like germany seems like their
28:28program
28:29to destroy europe like at least once every century or something like that and same with like the
28:34russos it's like freaking they're just like designed to be like oh hey like let's let's go out and like
28:40destroy something like let's invade a country doesn't that sound like a great idea it's like it's just
28:45it's like y'all just don't stop do you like like ukraine for the umpteenth millionth time
28:51there's a great movie mr rogers with norton did you see that movie i have not no it's a great
28:58movie that explains history to the people who have no clue that russia the soviets occupied most of
29:06ukraine most of the time and why some of the ukrainians sided with hitler to kick out the
29:15soviets yes it was it was a marriage of convenience for them because they hated the communists more than
29:22they did the fashion and and what you saw too is you saw several countries do that and then actually
29:28end up flipping because what happened was they say the fins the fins um side like basically sought
29:34an ally with germany once they kicked the soviets out because they're like hey we hate these guys like
29:40we're we'll be on your side and so there was that soviet um and uh finnish border war but then
29:46after
29:46putting up with the germans for like only a little while they're like dude we hate you guys like we
29:52can't stand you and then they negotiated with the allies and they actually ended up fighting against
29:57the germans and driving them out there were i think romania was another one um ukraine there were a lot
30:03of ones where they hated the communists so they joined up with the nazis but then after a while they
30:09were like you know what like yeah yeah this was a big mistake because they foolishly ascribe to the
30:16notion the enemy of my enemy is my friend no they're not always your friend the enemy of your enemy
30:25like we did with russia might be a temporary useful idiot in a partnership but they are not ever
30:35your friend i mean how much does that happen in modern politics now where it's like abroad where
30:41it's like oh hey let's like uh let's give these scumbags a bunch of weapons and money to defeat these
30:46other scumbags and then it turns out oh yeah those guys are scumbags too and it's like who would have
30:52fought yeah well the way my adhd yeah my adhd ocd duality brain got us way off topic well not
31:05entirely i love this stuff we could go all day on this yeah there's the tie the key back to
31:11the book
31:12but let's before we wrap things up because the time has flown already jesus are we done already
31:18yeah we're practically done but so let's get back to the book before we do wrap it up do you
31:26have a
31:27third in process i most certainly do yes um i'm work i'm working on it right now it's actually kind
31:34of
31:34going a little more into some of the theater stuff that's a little less known like the cbi theater
31:39which was the china burma india theater it kind of touches briefly in there and then goes to the
31:44pacific and that kind of also ties into that thing where i think that sometimes because of the
31:51horrors that we see a lot with nazi germany um we forget that the empire of japan was every bit
31:58as
31:59evil horrible and disgusting as the nazis ever were and um you know it there's there's some of
32:06the uh the stories that it's kind of disappointing because even now the uh the government of japan
32:12refuses to acknowledge that some of these things happen but they you know like the uh the rape of
32:18non-king and things like that these were atrocious incidents and they even had as weird as it was
32:24during the the non-king uh siege and like all the stuff that happened in the aftermath there was a
32:31member of the the nazi party who was there as a liaison who had been um in china for a
32:38long time
32:39and he was so disgusted at the acts committed by the japanese against the chinese citizens that he
32:47convinced the japanese to to um make a safe zone and he put about 300 000 chinese citizens inside that
32:56safe zone and protected them from the japanese we're talking a nazi officer that did i know because he
33:02was so yeah can we imagine the nazis as disgusting and as overboard as they were actually being appalled
33:12at how far someone else went man and you look at like uh say like croatia there that was one
33:20of the
33:20things that the uh that um the expansion of germany out with the invasions and stuff gave so much
33:26permission for other countries to just ally with germany to enact their blood feud on other people
33:32so in croatia they actually were so horrible to the civilian population um when they allied with the
33:40germans and started doing stuff that the german ss officers wrote back to germany and said hey you
33:47guys we need to do something about this because this is just beyond inhuman and like they actually
33:52arrested several of the croatian politicians and generals and had them tried for war crimes
33:58inside nazi germany because of how disgusting they were being to the local populace it's like dang man
34:04that must have been bad and that's so sad that people don't understand any of this
34:10and that that's a problem with ukraine now as i explained yeah there's you hear today people
34:19wanting to side with putin uh and calling out the nazi brigades in ukraine well why do they have nazi
34:29symbology again it's a history of it yeah they sided with nazis to kick out their soviet foes
34:40and people don't understand any of this history it's not like they are actual hitlerian nazis
34:48they don't want to round up and kill all the jews but they were again a temporary but anyway i'm
34:55off
34:56track yes i uh your book well we were in a bubble here in the united states oh we do
35:01and your book kind
35:03sounds like my terror strikes coming soon to a city near you it's technically his historical fiction
35:10yes yes yeah you're educating educating as well as entertaining and you could borrow my term if you
35:20like i call it faction part fact part fiction yeah so and then like i said it's like all i
35:28had
35:29the the the occult issues and like the the politics of everything the missions history really wrote
35:36itself all i had to do is just kind of take that lovecraftian uh lore and horror and just roll
35:41it
35:42into the place of like a lot of the areosophy and things like that and it just blended so seamlessly
35:47yeah it made it so much easy uh easier and then just i mean you know the bravery of our
35:52guys for
35:53the oss and things like that world war ii just absolutely thank you christopher michael i i've
35:59gotta ask the my joke part of my brain right no relation to george michael no god
36:09and i knew that that's a joke people it's a joke thank you christopher michael for coming on do you
36:17have a website where people could find you i do i have uh my own personal website which is going
36:23to
36:23be www.christophermichaelauthor.com all one word and all of my social media is going to be that way
36:31too so i have facebook and x also and this is going to be christopher michael author all one word
36:36all right sounds good thank you again christopher michael and thank you to our friend mutual friend
36:44mickey mickey mickelson for helping to bring us together uh had a good time on friday the 13th
36:53yeah absolutely this will air sometime in december so people will be long past all this stuff by then
37:02but uh and of course find your book at amazon and yes yes they can find it at amazon um
37:13obviously they're
37:14just going to search the danforth eldritch tales of world war ii series or um they can buy it directly
37:19from crystal lake publishing's website at www.crystallakepub.com all right sounds good
37:27take care god bless thank you eyes open wide not living in fear
37:38just knowing the signs when danger draws near
38:11they call it paranoia
38:14when you pay attention but there's a difference between fear and comprehension crime doesn't clock
38:20in terrorism has no zip code anytime any place you better know which road you are not an ostrich with
38:27your head buried in sand you're a thinker with awareness and a reason you still stand
38:36when the world erupts around you don't let panic be your guide three options in the crisis moments only one
38:46keeps you alive
38:48awake not paranoid situationally aware not consumed by all the fear porn but prepared to face what's there
38:59fight fight fight flight or maybe fate know the difference make the call
39:05a thinking mind won't be the sheep all trampled when the panic falls awake
39:14not paranoid awake remember when the music stopped and panic filled the air the stampede was the danger not what
39:22triggered the scare
39:23the fire fry and panda fire when you run without a thought the threat that really kills you is the
39:28panic that you caught
39:29mama bear or ostrich which one are you gonna be assess the situation is that danger close to me
39:35is it in my orbit is it coming for my space or do i fade to safety live to fight
39:40another day
39:40when the world erupts around you don't let panic be your guide free options in the crisis moment only one
39:50keeps you alive
39:52awake not paranoid situationally aware not consumed by all the fear porn but prepared to face what's there
40:03fight flight or maybe fade know the difference make the call
40:09a thinking mind won't be the sheep all trampled when the panic falls awake
40:17not paranoid awake life over death hope over fear faith over despair keep your wits clear love over hate
40:27good over evil freedom over tyranny rise above the sheep all they said burn out don't fade away but i
40:36say fade and
40:36you live to see another day unless it's in your orbit unless there's no escape then you stand and fight
40:42that's the choice that heroes make awake means you are watching not wrapped in paranoia's chains you carry
40:50situational awareness like an umbrella when it rains not selling fear not peddling doom just asking you to think
41:01before the panic swallows reason and you're swept across the break awake
41:08not paranoid situationally aware not consumed by all the fear porn but prepared to face what's there fight
41:19flight or maybe fade know the difference make the call a thinking mind won't be the sheep all trampled when
41:28the
41:28panic falls awake not paranoid awake think don't panic assess don't assume
41:45fade when you can fight when you must awake
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