00:00I knew that the amount of work and love and attention, blood, sweat, and tears I was going
00:05to pour into this thing wasn't something I could do well with a full-time job. So I gave myself
00:09a
00:10year. And what were you doing at the time? I did business development for a custom software firm
00:15in Indianapolis. When I found that job, I googled jobs where you can bring your dog to work. So
00:19priorities. Chuck went to the office. Chuck went to the office. Okay, so you gave yourself a year to
00:23do the show. Yes, but I had audio check first because I, and I had kind of a business plan
00:27and I said, I'm going to give it everything for a year. And if I can make this work, and
00:30if I can
00:31make this my career, then this is what I'll do. And I didn't start out thinking, I want to make
00:36a
00:36podcast network. I want to make Crime Junkie the biggest show. It was, I want to do the thing I
00:41love. I want to tell true crime stories in a way that I just don't see a lot of. If
00:47I can, you know,
00:48just pay my bills, I think that that would be enough.
