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Chris Cornell: MM-aRchive Session October 2015
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00:00:01MMR's Dreamstream Concert Series, 93.3 WMMR, Everything That Rocks.
00:00:07It is 93.3 WMMR in Philadelphia. I'm Pierre Robert. Good afternoon and welcome to another MMR Archive session.
00:00:14Our guest today is no stranger to the city of Philadelphia or to this radio station for that matter.
00:00:19He's played almost every venue in Philly with any number of bands over the years as well as on his own.
00:00:25Certainly known for his work with Soundgarden, Temple of the Dog, Audio Slate, but also for a great variety of solo projects,
00:00:32one of which he is out on the road supporting right now with an acoustic tour of small theaters.
00:00:36This latest album is called Higher Truth and accompanied by the very talented musician Brian Gibson.
00:00:42It is our great pleasure to welcome back to MMR Mr. Chris Cornell.
00:00:51Welcome. So nice to have you. My name is Pierre, by the way.
00:00:53Hi, Pierre. It's a pleasure to meet you again.
00:00:55Yeah. You've had some trouble with my name over the years, so I just wanted to get that together.
00:01:00I don't know what it was, but yeah.
00:01:02Well, you know...
00:01:03He's making a joke because you're very polite and you reintroduce yourself to me every time as though it's the first time,
00:01:08as though I have a stroke between each meeting, which I think is very polite.
00:01:13Because on the road you meet a lot of people and you never know. You've probably met a guy like three or four times and then he...
00:01:22Pete Townsend. I've interviewed Pete Townsend many times. He knows the face. And I'll go, I'm the DJ from WMMR, Pierre Robert.
00:01:29And he was signing a book one time and he goes, yes, you are.
00:01:34I made it easy for him.
00:01:35So on the songbook tour, you got your first taste of getting out there and playing acoustic.
00:01:41But on this tour, you said that what that tour did is connect the dots between all of my bands and all of my different projects
00:01:48and all of the different periods of my career under one umbrella that makes perfect sense.
00:01:53And is that still your experience so far into this tour?
00:01:57Yeah, I think it's just kind of reducing it to songs on acoustic guitar.
00:02:06And some of them, you know, require a little bit of arrangement adjustment to sort of work that way to the degree that I can actually do it.
00:02:13And I think in that, somewhere, whether it's something that just translates naturally or whether it has to be arranged a little bit
00:02:22and massaged into working in the context of an acoustic song, it brings them all into kind of a world where they make sense together.
00:02:30It's not like you're hearing one song and then the next song and it feels like they don't really belong on the same stage
00:02:37or that they weren't written by the same person or come from, you know, the same creative space necessarily.
00:02:44Even though, if you did that, you know, from album to album, from the earliest Soundgarden recordings to like different solo things I've done
00:02:54and Audioslave or something, it might sound kind of schizophrenic.
00:03:00But this kind of takes the schizophrenic out of it.
00:03:02I like that.
00:03:03I like that.
00:03:04Well, on the Songbook Tour, I guess before that, before the Songbook Tour, you had done some acoustic dates
00:03:11and some of them you had described as successful, some of them you didn't think were that good.
00:03:16So that's why you did the Songbook Tour, according to what I was reading.
00:03:19But you said it was still five or six or seven dates into that before you kind of got your legs.
00:03:25And you once told me that it was the Philly Show at the Keswick Theatre that actually helped you turn the corner.
00:03:30I think that was the one that was the first one that felt like I kind of landed, you know, like I kind of was, I knew what I wanted it to be.
00:03:40And I knew that it was working and it felt, I got a feeling when in the middle of that show that I get now pretty much every night like it.
00:03:49But just the sort of knowing that the songs work together, knowing that there's an audience that wants to hear two and a half hours.
00:04:01Really to the point where if I play less, it feels funny.
00:04:04Like I'm, I actually kind of feel like I'm cheating.
00:04:08Like it's not, like they're not getting their money's worth.
00:04:11And I don't know if that's always the way that feels for live shows.
00:04:15I mean, I think that there, sometimes the audience has had enough after like, you know, just shy of two hours or something.
00:04:24You know, when, if you go to a movie and it's two hours long, I think that's kind of a commitment.
00:04:28So I think that was always in the back of my mind too, was that just this is going to, is going to keep a room full of people interested.
00:04:37You guys wouldn't be interested in that, I suspect.
00:04:39No, they're not.
00:04:41They just came for some pizza.
00:04:45On the, on the songbook tour, you did this great thing.
00:04:48You had an array of guitars behind you and off to the side, however, was a record player, an actual turntable.
00:04:55And from time to time, which I just loved, you'd get up and you'd put a record on and then you'd play to it.
00:05:01Is that, do you have that on this tour?
00:05:03Or sing to it.
00:05:04Yeah, I do.
00:05:05Yeah.
00:05:05Where did that idea come from?
00:05:07Um, it came from initial discussions with my, uh, one time manager about ways of making an acoustic show cool.
00:05:20And, and, uh, the idea of having a turntable came up on stage and he was talking about, you know, you could talk about records that you love and go play, you know, go play a part of it.
00:05:29But, and I liked the idea of that.
00:05:31I mean, it was almost kind of like, uh, you know, that, that sort of immediately makes it intimate and, and kind of like the living room when, when you're doing that.
00:05:40But I didn't really like it, it didn't make sense to me to go play someone else's record.
00:05:44And, and as soon as I thought that, I realized that, you know, most modern touring artists perform to track on some level, if not entirely.
00:05:53Um, where Kanye West has done entire shows to, to, uh, laptop, really, you know, to, to basically the record.
00:06:03Um, why not just press songs that I want, versions of my songs in whatever form I want to vinyl and sing to them that way.
00:06:13And I still sort of get that quality.
00:06:15And the first time I did it, I knew it was a good idea just because as soon as you drop the needle and the audience heard the sound of vinyl, they reacted just to that.
00:06:24That kind of changed the atmosphere.
00:06:26Um, and, and then another thing I sort of figured out, uh, recently was, uh, the, the problem of being sort of stuck behind the microphone, uh, for an acoustic tour.
00:06:38Cause like in a, in a rock band, you know, there's guitar solos and I can kind of leave and, and, and do things and wander around and be in, be in different parts of the stage.
00:06:47And it becomes more three-dimensional, but just as a guy playing acoustic guitar, that doesn't really happen.
00:06:52Um, and so, you know, I thought about doing like a headset mic, but it just, it just looks ridiculous.
00:07:00It looks, you know, I thought it just immediately reminded me of like a, uh, late 80s Sammy Hagar kind of thing.
00:07:06And I couldn't bear it.
00:07:08I would rather the show suffer on some other level.
00:07:12So it did.
00:07:13And then, um, and then, uh, a few months ago, Soundgarden played Bridge School and, uh, with, um, Pearl Jam and Neil Young.
00:07:22And, and, uh, he was out, he just sort of walked out on stage with, um, in his harmonica holder that he would normally, normally play harmonica in.
00:07:31And then sometimes it was in there and then sometimes it wasn't in there and he had two little microphones on it.
00:07:36And he was singing into it and he could move kind of wherever he wanted.
00:07:41And I thought that solves the problem because it looks really cool.
00:07:43You know, it didn't look ridiculous anymore.
00:07:45So I stole that idea from him.
00:07:47So I do that now too.
00:07:48Well, you also have the extra help of Brian here.
00:07:51And, um, the new, uh, album of course is Higher Truth.
00:07:54And the first single from it is what I believe you guys are going to play.
00:07:58And Brian is holding a mandolin is one of my favorite instruments, um, which opens a song.
00:08:03I believe the song you're going to play for us is what?
00:08:06Um, nearly forgot my broken heart.
00:08:07Cool.
00:08:08Chris Cornell on 93.3 WMN.
00:08:10Every time I stare into the sun
00:08:23Trying to find a reason to go on
00:08:27All I ever get is burned and blind
00:08:31Until the sky bleeds the pouring rain
00:08:35When you came along, the time was right
00:08:40Pulled me like an apple, right and right
00:08:44Wasn't there alone when you took a bite
00:08:48And did me wrong and it should be right
00:08:52And then they forgot my broken heart
00:08:57It's taken me miles away
00:09:00From the memory of how it broke apart
00:09:05Here we go round again
00:09:08Every little key unlocks a door
00:09:17Every little secret has a light
00:09:22Try to take a picture of the sun
00:09:25Yeah, it won't help people see the light
00:09:29Every little word upon your lips
00:09:33Makes a little cut where blood pours out
00:09:37Every little drop of blood or kiss
00:09:41But I won't miss not for anything
00:09:45I nearly forgot my broken heart
00:09:50It's taken me miles away
00:09:53From the memory of how it broke apart
00:09:58Here we go round again
00:10:01Every little feeling tells me this is leading to a heart
00:10:08Broken little pieces and you know I need this
00:10:13Like a hole in my hand
00:10:20Every little feeling tells me this is leading to a heart
00:10:22Every little feeling tells me this is leading to a heart
00:10:27In broken little pieces and you know I need this
00:10:31Like a hole in my hand
00:10:31Every little feeling tells me this is leading to a heart
00:10:44Every little feeling tells me this is leading to a heart
00:10:46Every little feeling tells me this is leading to a heart
00:10:47And broken little pieces
00:10:52And you know I made this like a hole
00:10:57And I nearly forgot my broken heart
00:11:01It's taken me miles away
00:11:04From the memory of how it broke apart
00:11:09Here we go round again
00:11:12And I nearly forgot my broken heart
00:11:17It's taken me miles away
00:11:20From the memory of how it broke apart
00:11:24Here we go round again
00:11:28Here we go round again
00:11:47The Seattle Symphony I think it was
00:11:51Posted a picture of you at the Benaroya Hall
00:11:54And you're behind a harpsichord
00:11:56Do you actually play that instrument?
00:11:58Or are you capable of playing it?
00:11:59No, not really
00:12:02Or was it a full-fledged harp?
00:12:04No, it was a harp
00:12:05Oh, it was a harp
00:12:06Yeah, it was a harp
00:12:07So there's this picture of you and a harp
00:12:09And it's looking down back up at you
00:12:11It's a really cool shot
00:12:12Yeah, that's a hard instrument I think to play
00:12:14Huh
00:12:15Yeah
00:12:16No, I just
00:12:17The harpist for
00:12:19I guess it's the Seattle Philharmonic
00:12:24Yeah, yeah
00:12:25You can't take that home on the bus
00:12:27So
00:12:29You come
00:12:30She goes there to rehearse
00:12:31So it's in a room
00:12:32Okay
00:12:33Seattle Symphony, excuse me
00:12:35Edit that
00:12:36Seattle Symphony
00:12:37Okay, good
00:12:40Also in Seattle
00:12:41Mike McCready came up from Pearl Jam
00:12:43And played River of Deceit
00:12:45The Mad Season song
00:12:46And Matthew I think had a question about
00:12:48Mad Season
00:12:49And how it was going to
00:12:51Or if it might continue
00:12:52Matt?
00:12:53Yeah
00:12:54Uh huh
00:12:55Hi Chris, thanks for coming
00:12:57Yeah, it was back in January
00:12:58You guys did the Mad Season
00:13:00Yeah
00:13:01With Barrett and Duff and Mike
00:13:02And I didn't see it in person
00:13:04Uh huh
00:13:05But I seen it on YouTube
00:13:06Right
00:13:07And you just nailed that part
00:13:08Oh, thank you
00:13:09It was almost like you were channeling
00:13:10Your inner Lane Staley
00:13:11Uh huh
00:13:12I mean it was very
00:13:13A very dark Chris Cornell
00:13:14Uh huh
00:13:15Were you purposely trying to do that?
00:13:16I think it's just the composition's fault really
00:13:19To be honest
00:13:20But I also think there's a
00:13:22That
00:13:23When I was asked to do that
00:13:25It didn't
00:13:26What came next was
00:13:27Was listening to
00:13:29To the original recordings
00:13:30Which was listening to Lane sing
00:13:31In headphones
00:13:32You know
00:13:33Over and over to learn it
00:13:34And
00:13:35And feel like I really knew it
00:13:36And that
00:13:37Was
00:13:38Kinda
00:13:39Unexpected
00:13:40I don't wanna say dark
00:13:41But it was
00:13:42You know
00:13:43That was tough
00:13:44Cause I hadn't really done that
00:13:45You know
00:13:46And listening to his voice intimately
00:13:48Um
00:13:49And sing those words
00:13:50And sing those songs
00:13:51Um
00:13:52It
00:13:54It definitely
00:13:55Sort of forced me
00:13:56To kind of
00:13:57Reckon with
00:13:58You know
00:13:59What happened in his life
00:14:00And the fact that he's not around anymore
00:14:02And I think that's
00:14:03I think that's tough for everybody that knew him
00:14:05As it is
00:14:06For anybody that loses someone
00:14:08Um
00:14:09That's a friend that's young
00:14:11You know
00:14:12Or that affects your life
00:14:13You know
00:14:14Just fans of his even
00:14:15You know
00:14:16I think that's sometimes
00:14:17Almost the bigger tragedy
00:14:19In a weird way
00:14:20Is that
00:14:21Um
00:14:22You know
00:14:23Of the
00:14:24The future
00:14:25Imagined creative projects
00:14:27That could've happened
00:14:28That didn't
00:14:29And you know
00:14:30I feel that the same way
00:14:31About
00:14:32Lots of
00:14:33Brilliant people
00:14:34Who die young
00:14:35And you know
00:14:36Kind of senselessly
00:14:37Especially
00:14:38If it's an accident
00:14:39You feel like it's an act of God
00:14:40If you feel like they did it somehow
00:14:42You
00:14:43You know
00:14:44It's
00:14:45It's sort of harder to reconcile
00:14:46You know
00:14:47It's hard to find a
00:14:48Silver lining
00:14:49But
00:14:50It doesn't change
00:14:51Uh
00:14:52What he did
00:14:54At all
00:14:55Do you see you four guys ever going out and doing that?
00:14:58Um
00:14:59That's not really something that we talked about
00:15:01No
00:15:02We might do something else someday
00:15:04Who knows
00:15:05Okay
00:15:06Well the great thing about you is you stay flexible
00:15:08Uh
00:15:09In terms of stuff like that
00:15:10Um
00:15:11When
00:15:12Um
00:15:13Right before Soundgarden got back together at the show
00:15:14Uh
00:15:15Showbox
00:15:16Is that the name of the theater?
00:15:17Your first reunion show
00:15:18Yeah
00:15:19I was there by total accident
00:15:20Uh
00:15:21Stone Gossard had asked me to come out and do some interviews with uh
00:15:24Various members of the bands that preceded Pearl Jam
00:15:27Uh huh
00:15:28And he got a night of music together with a bunch of them playing together
00:15:31Right I remember that
00:15:32It was really an amazing effort on his part to orchestrate this thing
00:15:36And um
00:15:37I learned so much more that I did not know at the time about the Seattle scene
00:15:42Um
00:15:43It was and it didn't
00:15:44It was actually just a while ago
00:15:46Uh that I learned that you were roommates with Andy Wood
00:15:48Yeah
00:15:49What was it like
00:15:50Well what was he like as a roommate?
00:15:52The funny thing is that
00:15:53He ended up being my roommate because I called Stone Gossard
00:15:56And said my brother just left and I need a roommate
00:15:59You wanna be a roommate?
00:16:00And he's like
00:16:01No I'm
00:16:02That's alright
00:16:03I'm pretty happy still living at home
00:16:05Which I think
00:16:06I don't know how old we were
00:16:07Wow
00:16:08We were still pretty young
00:16:10Yeah
00:16:11But uh
00:16:12He then he said
00:16:13You should call Andy
00:16:14My buddy Andy
00:16:15And I kinda knew him a little bit
00:16:17And I think he was looking for a place to stay in town
00:16:20Cause the
00:16:21You know there was sort of a
00:16:22There's an island thing going on in Seattle
00:16:24And there's a big difference between
00:16:26Being on an island and being in town
00:16:28And uh
00:16:29So I called him and he
00:16:30He uh
00:16:31Moved in
00:16:32But he was
00:16:33It was fun because I think the
00:16:35We were sort of
00:16:37Having a friendly competition
00:16:39Sort of as
00:16:40Singer songwriters the whole time
00:16:41We both had four tracks
00:16:42So I think I had one and I would record him
00:16:44And we were both writing songs all the time
00:16:46Um
00:16:47And
00:16:48I
00:16:49You know he was
00:16:50Almost the opposite of me
00:16:51In terms of
00:16:52Of how he
00:16:53Uh
00:16:54How he dealt with his own
00:16:55Sort of creative output
00:16:57He seemed to really have no
00:16:59Um
00:17:00He had no
00:17:01Editing voice in his head
00:17:03At all
00:17:04He just
00:17:05He was just free
00:17:06And he'd kind of write and record anything
00:17:07And
00:17:08And
00:17:09And not really analyze it too much
00:17:10And I was sort of the opposite
00:17:11I had like an editorial staff in my head
00:17:13Arguing about what I'm doing
00:17:15And
00:17:16I took that
00:17:17Definitely from him
00:17:18Uh
00:17:19As a lesson to just chill out
00:17:21And
00:17:22And be creative
00:17:23And let someone else judge it
00:17:24Or judge it later
00:17:25But don't have that sort of circumvent
00:17:27The process in the moment
00:17:29Like you know
00:17:30Starting to work on the song
00:17:31And
00:17:32And you think
00:17:33Oh no this probably sucks
00:17:34No it sucks
00:17:35It sucks
00:17:36Well you know
00:17:37And the other danger is going
00:17:39This is the fucking best song
00:17:40Anyone has ever written
00:17:42And that's where the argument comes in
00:17:43Then the other voice
00:17:44Uh uh
00:17:45No it isn't
00:17:46Yes it is
00:17:47No it isn't
00:17:48The third voice
00:17:49Well you know
00:17:50It doesn't have to be one of those things
00:17:53What you know
00:17:54One of the great
00:17:55Strange
00:17:56Sad
00:17:57Cosmic
00:17:58Coincidences
00:17:59Uh
00:18:00Is his tragic passing
00:18:01Mother Love Bone
00:18:02On the verge of what looked to be
00:18:03An explosion
00:18:04Of success musically
00:18:06And yet
00:18:07Had that not happened
00:18:08The entity we now know as Pearl Jam
00:18:10Never
00:18:11Would have existed
00:18:13That has always struck me
00:18:14As one of those bizarre things of life
00:18:16What about you?
00:18:17Um
00:18:18Yeah the thought crossed my mind
00:18:20I think before
00:18:21I don't know
00:18:22Um
00:18:23I mean
00:18:24For sure I think
00:18:27Eddie's creative output
00:18:28Would have
00:18:30Obviously I think
00:18:31Come
00:18:32To being
00:18:33In a way that affects
00:18:35Popular culture
00:18:36No matter what
00:18:37I can't imagine that
00:18:38That wouldn't have happened
00:18:39Um
00:18:40It just wouldn't have happened in that way
00:18:41So
00:18:42Um
00:18:43And I
00:18:44And I think that
00:18:45That's uh
00:18:46That
00:18:47That's probably a
00:18:48Difficult thing to
00:18:49Like kind of sit and think about
00:18:50You know when you're close to the person
00:18:52That's died
00:18:53That somehow
00:18:54Their passing
00:18:55Is kind of
00:18:56Um
00:18:57Made way for another form
00:19:00That becomes really important
00:19:01It's
00:19:02Sort of tough
00:19:03Yeah
00:19:04Um
00:19:05But uh
00:19:06It
00:19:07It's definitely something that I thought about
00:19:08I wouldn't
00:19:09I'm not gonna pretend that
00:19:10That didn't occur to me
00:19:11At some point
00:19:12The new album's got so many great moments in it
00:19:14But it's produced by a legend
00:19:16Brendan O'Brien
00:19:17And I'm wondering what it was like
00:19:18To work with him
00:19:19You said you had this great trust
00:19:20That he could do things with your voice
00:19:22That others couldn't
00:19:23Well he
00:19:24Um
00:19:25Probably the best time I ever had in my life
00:19:27Recording
00:19:28With uh
00:19:29A producer
00:19:30As a singer
00:19:31Was
00:19:32Was Audioslave's Revelations
00:19:33And it just
00:19:34You know
00:19:35I
00:19:36I knew that he worked fast as a mixer
00:19:38Cause he mixed Super Unknown
00:19:39Um
00:19:40And I'd heard about how he's worked in other
00:19:42With other bands in other ways
00:19:44But I had never worked with him
00:19:46In the context of a producer
00:19:48And
00:19:49I think it was the very first song that we did
00:19:51Audioslave was on tour
00:19:52And we were in Atlanta
00:19:53And we went to
00:19:54Uh
00:19:55To the studio that he worked in all the time
00:19:56And he just put a mic up in the middle
00:19:57And uh
00:19:58We did the whole song live
00:20:01And it sounded great to me
00:20:02And then the record sort of
00:20:03It
00:20:04It
00:20:05It just kinda came out that way
00:20:06The whole album came out that way
00:20:08Um
00:20:09And
00:20:10And so
00:20:11That was one of the things
00:20:12That I thought about
00:20:13In that making
00:20:14This album
00:20:15Which being sort of
00:20:16Mostly stripped down
00:20:17The vocals needed to sound really good
00:20:18But the other thing is that he doesn't
00:20:19He
00:20:20One of the things he does that I really like
00:20:22Is he doesn't want
00:20:23A whole bunch of takes
00:20:24He
00:20:25He's sort of happy with about
00:20:26Three
00:20:27Two or three
00:20:28And then he wants to
00:20:29He wants to move on
00:20:30And one of those things
00:20:32That
00:20:33Happens then
00:20:34Is that it stays fairly live
00:20:35And it stays fairly
00:20:37Um
00:20:38I think
00:20:39Kind of organic sounding
00:20:40You
00:20:41You can definitely produce a singer
00:20:42No
00:20:43No matter how good or bad
00:20:44To where they sound
00:20:45Like
00:20:46Like their voice is perfect
00:20:47And there are no flaws
00:20:48And then there becomes kinda no
00:20:49Human connection to the
00:20:51Piece
00:20:52And I kinda have to have that
00:20:53As a fan
00:20:54Um
00:20:55As a listener
00:20:56I don't really get that interested in it
00:20:58If
00:20:59Um
00:21:00If there's a bunch of
00:21:01Uh
00:21:02Production involved that kind of
00:21:03Takes the humanity out of it
00:21:05And nowadays with the technology that we have
00:21:07Anybody can do that
00:21:08My 10 year old son can do it
00:21:10It's easy
00:21:11Um
00:21:12So
00:21:13I
00:21:14I really liked that part of it
00:21:15But I
00:21:16The actual recording of the album ended up being even better than I expected
00:21:20Because his um
00:21:21His pace was really
00:21:23It
00:21:24It
00:21:25It was almost more intense than mine
00:21:27And I really liked being the
00:21:28You know
00:21:29The guy that's
00:21:30That's uh
00:21:31Playing ketchup as opposed to the guy that's
00:21:33Sort of
00:21:35Sort of
00:21:36There was a story of a reporter I read
00:21:38He went into a Best Buy in New York City
00:21:40In Chelsea in fact
00:21:41And he wanted to purchase Higher Truth
00:21:43And um
00:21:44Instead of a person
00:21:45Talk about automation
00:21:47There's a machine there
00:21:48Called Chloe
00:21:49I'm not kidding
00:21:50And he actually had to go up to it
00:21:52And put his credit card in it
00:21:54And it
00:21:55Swipe your card
00:21:56And then this robot would send you
00:21:57Some information
00:21:58And you'd put in what album you want
00:22:00And then apparently a mechanical arm
00:22:02Would go up
00:22:03And pull the record out
00:22:04And drop it into a bin nearby
00:22:06And to me
00:22:07Everything about that is wrong
00:22:08Yes
00:22:09Particularly because record stores
00:22:10I
00:22:11How I love them
00:22:12There's so few of them left
00:22:13And the idea that
00:22:14That a machine named Chloe
00:22:15Is gonna pick your album for you
00:22:17Is insane to me
00:22:18But
00:22:19But that's how he bought Higher Truth
00:22:20That's amazing
00:22:21And it seems really totally unnecessary
00:22:23Yes
00:22:24Could we get you to do another song on MMR?
00:22:26Sure
00:22:27What would you like to do?
00:22:28Uh
00:22:29We'll do
00:22:30We'll do a song called Josephine
00:22:32This is
00:22:33This probably has the oldest origins of a song
00:22:35That's on the album, I think
00:22:39That I started writing it about 13 years ago
00:22:44And there
00:22:45At one point there was a finished version
00:22:46And I didn't
00:22:47I
00:22:48I recorded it
00:22:49It felt like it
00:22:50Surprisingly to me
00:22:51It just didn't come out the way I wanted it to
00:22:53And
00:22:56I rewrote it for this album
00:22:57Feeling like
00:22:58I was missing the opportunity
00:23:00Because it would fit with this album
00:23:02And
00:23:03And didn't reference the original version
00:23:05Anything about it
00:23:06Even the lyrics
00:23:07And kind of redid it
00:23:08And it just kind of flowed out
00:23:09In a way that I really liked
00:23:10So this is called Josephine
00:23:12We'll do
00:23:14That's it
00:23:15I'm not
00:23:28I'm not
00:23:30I'm not
00:23:31I'm not
00:23:32I'm not
00:23:33his sleeve on his flannel shirt flannel is back by the way why are you saying it's back
00:23:40have you noticed it in stores everywhere you're seeing flannel oh yeah
00:23:44josephine where can you be now
00:24:01again this sun is rising on my troubled heart
00:24:07don't deny you know you and i of the making of what faith just can't pull apart
00:24:20my sweet josephine
00:24:26won't you come and marry me
00:24:32i got every kind of love that you would ever need
00:24:37dying here on building me
00:24:43sheets of rain cold and gray
00:24:51but from down the page is about your name
00:24:57just the weight of your silence now
00:25:03crashing all around me while you scream that
00:25:09my sweet josephine
00:25:16won't you come and marry me
00:25:22i got every kind of love that you would ever need
00:25:29dying here on building me
00:25:35like a raven in the cave
00:25:39the blood of my birth
00:25:44won't wash away
00:25:47like it sticks together
00:25:50feet to the flame
00:25:56as i fall on the plane
00:25:59for someone else's pain
00:26:03for someone else's pain
00:26:10rivers of black ink
00:26:19a tapestry of flesh and blood
00:26:24around my frame
00:26:26a living shrine
00:26:30just for someone else's pain
00:26:32just for you
00:26:33if you'll be mine
00:26:34a golden band upon your hand
00:26:37be the sinless winner
00:26:39behind my sweet josephine
00:26:46won't you come and marry me
00:26:51i got every kind of love that you would ever need
00:26:58dying here on building me
00:27:02dying here on building me
00:27:07dying here on building me
00:27:12my josephine
00:27:14i got every kind of love that you would ever need
00:27:28you
00:27:2993.3 WMMR
00:27:36it's chris cornell and brian gibson helping out there
00:27:39and uh what a wonderful wonderful performance
00:27:42uh the song is uh josephine from higher truth
00:27:45uh which brings me to um cover songs i wanted to ask you about
00:27:49uh because on the songbook album we heard you just pull out all kinds of cool things
00:27:54in fact the last time you came and sang for us
00:27:56um i think you were doing led zeppelin during the sound check
00:28:00and uh the songbook album god it brought us so many cool songs uh i think thank you is on there
00:28:05imagine you cover john lennon billy jean from michael jackson things people might not expect you to do
00:28:11uh the current one uh people have been talking about is the prince song nothing compares to you
00:28:16uh-huh um what what makes a song make you want to cover it
00:28:21um well i have to like the song but then it also has to not sound completely ridiculous when i sing it
00:28:28and and that largely i think it's a lyrical thing
00:28:32and and it's a it's mysterious too because i think that's different for every individual
00:28:37um it's different for every person um there there are a lot of singers even rock singers that
00:28:45could get away with singing stuff that wouldn't and i think you have to be comfortable with it
00:28:49somehow it has to sort of fit who you are and and um with something like doing the billy jean cover
00:28:58obviously that i completely reshaped it so so lyrically it works great once it was retooled
00:29:06to sort of fit what i do it was fine um but if i tried to sing it sort of based on the original
00:29:12rhythm and the bass line it wouldn't be really bad well um this brings me to um this series of albums
00:29:22that came out a while back and it was called duets and it was with frank sinatra who i consider to be
00:29:27the original rock star had the swagger smoked and drank he had the girls he stayed up all night
00:29:33and although it was a different style of music he you know he brought it on stage and certainly his
00:29:38vocal prowess was was quite uh accomplished but on the duets album they got all these people and i
00:29:45think the first edition had more traditional singers like tony bennett and aretha franklin and
00:29:49barbara streisand but on uh the duets number two they started expanding jimmy buffett is on there
00:29:55doing mac the knife bono's on there doing i've got you under my skin chrissy hind uh doing uh the
00:30:01lady is a tramp so it occurred to me with your love of covers if there was a sinatra song and if frank
00:30:08was still alive and there would be a duets three what sinatra song would you like to sing with the
00:30:13chairman of the board i'm not sure i think i'd have to research that i would have to look because
00:30:19there's a lot i would kind of i think with sinatra i would want to go sort of deeper catalog because he
00:30:25made so many albums as you know um but i did there was a time i was working uh with alice cooper on some
00:30:32songs for an alice cooper album and he told me that uh that sinatra did a version of only women bleed
00:30:41and and he was talking alice cooper about it and saying that yeah you know i did i did that song
00:30:47it was really great and and i think alice cooper was shocked i'm shocked and a kind of part of me
00:30:52doesn't believe it except for that i can't imagine that he would lie about it and um he covered george
00:30:57harrison he did something that's not as big of a stretch i know but still to be fair but i mean yeah
00:31:04i think he had a love of obviously had a great love of of of good songwriting because look
00:31:11how great of a of a singer he was and how much emotion he could translate to the listener in a
00:31:17song i mean that you can't he's almost unmatched in that way but people talk about your voice in
00:31:23in somewhat similar terms in that you have this amazing range what do you think when you hear those
00:31:29kind of compliments about your own voice because i've i've heard you go places that i didn't think
00:31:33were humanly possible and then come back again and it's it's quite magnificent um yeah i think
00:31:41it's uh i think a voice is always sort of evolving and um i think when i had i think when i had sort of
00:31:50the biggest and most easily accessible range is a period in my life where i when i listened to what i
00:31:55did i don't like it as much as i do now i don't think i was as in tune with um the emotional intent of
00:32:04the song as i am now i think that happens probably just naturally a little bit with age too as you
00:32:10live more you know and you've you're sort of forced into more situations and more bad things happen to
00:32:17you and more good things happen to you and you know you you but there there are people that come
00:32:23out fully formed you know teenagers that can sing a song and everyone's crying so i don't know
00:32:28my fellow dj and uh lover of music matt cord is here with another somewhat seattle-based question
00:32:35i guess right matthew yeah go figure um he loves pearl jam um this is real simple you know growing
00:32:41up basically in the seattle music scene are you surprised with the mega success dave growl has had
00:32:47with the foo fighters i think when when i heard the first foo fighters record it was surprising because
00:32:53i knew that he had written all the songs and played every instrument and that and i didn't know
00:32:59him that well so that was sort of the first time i was introduced to who he really is oh okay he's not
00:33:06just a really great drummer he's he's uh one of those guys that that can kind of do anything he's
00:33:13musical on the hundred percent um matt cameron is that way uh so the from that point no i think you
00:33:21know a guy that like that that's that has that much talent is and and is motivated uh as much as
00:33:26he seems to be you know um that's what that's when it makes sense to me actually i just want a blood
00:33:35transfusion from him so i could do more things get more accomplished apparently he drinks like a lot
00:33:41coffee really that helps i do that health tips today with strength like way more coffee than is
00:33:48probably a good idea we're speaking with chris brian is helping out um i wanted to um bring your
00:33:55attention to i think you were raised catholic and i think you converted somewhat recently to more of a
00:34:00greek orthodox um religious philosophy but um we just had as you probably know the pope in this whole
00:34:07region of new york and washington and a couple of days in philly never heard of him uh well as as
00:34:13popes go i think he's pretty cool i mean i i'm consider myself spiritual but not religious and there's
00:34:18there's a definite difference but he's had this great line which i loved which he said pray for me
00:34:23but if you don't believe just wish me well isn't that amazing yeah that's pretty i think that's that's
00:34:30pretty progressive and like the timing can be better for the catholic people i mean there needed
00:34:37to be some sort of uh let's update this a little bit on somebody that's a little less um rigid rigid
00:34:45and and you know following something that is a couple thousand years old uh in need of an update like
00:34:52you know it's it's definitely overdue and from things that i've heard and um yeah he's he's a
00:34:59pretty progressive guy and it seems to mean well well with that in mind i'd ask this to some other
00:35:04bands and i'm curious um about you and your catalog of songs in your entire catalog of songs we're the
00:35:11pope to walk in here right now and say chris i'd like you to play a song for me what do you think
00:35:17is a song i would like and the pope sits right where that gentleman is what song would you pick
00:35:21out to play for him i'd probably mean brian do we do a bang up version of like suicide i'd probably
00:35:25pull that out right away great day in the morning yeah and it's you know it's one of those songs that
00:35:34that uh it's difficult to necessarily interpret what it means so then i could ask him what he
00:35:39thought it meant wow see if he pulls out any great bs and and then we'll know how great of a pope he
00:35:44really is um you know i these acoustic sessions are so fascinating and last time you came and played
00:35:50for us with a studio audience um you did black hole sun and there's an almost false ending as you
00:35:57well know in the song yeah and people started to applaud and i go oh they that's that's bad and you
00:36:03know and then you keep going and you finish the song and i thought well this is the only place that
00:36:08happened and then i discovered that it was happening in various acoustic settings in several places
00:36:13well in the during our show when we do it it happens does it bother you no it's great we just
00:36:21wait and then when that's all died down i finished this song well because it it makes me think of that
00:36:30lack of perfection because i was thinking we could probably take that scream out of it and i go no i
00:36:34kind of like leaving it in there you know it's it's it's quite something i want to ask you about your
00:36:39restaurant i don't know if you still have it uh black calavados was that the place in paris
00:36:43yeah do you still have that restaurant yeah it's sort of more of a lounge now okay yeah because at
00:36:49one time it was a restaurant and um i'd always been curious why you liked restaurants we talked about
00:36:54it last time but then it occurred to me i i don't know if you're a foodie or not or would describe
00:36:59yourself as such but um first of all would you whatever degree yeah okay i think so do you cook
00:37:06no not now i was a cook oh you were a sous chef weren't you no i was i was like a lead line cook
00:37:13you know that's the job you get when you when you're when you start as a dishwasher but you're a
00:37:18guy that shows up on time and hasn't has a lot of energy and then by the way after after a year or
00:37:25so you're sort of the boss of you know as high as you can go without actually knowing anything about
00:37:30food but i that's something that was that's a vocation that i would have loved to get into
00:37:36seriously um i i also think it's something that was really great to do when you're a musician because
00:37:43the you know we had no money i had no money you know we'd get paid once a month i'd run out of money
00:37:49you know three quarters of the way through the month and when you work at a restaurant um you have
00:37:55there's food around you all the time so that problem is solved you're not really a starving artist
00:38:00i think what was it ray's boathouse is that right that was one of them okay um now i'm wondering if
00:38:06you have any musician friends that you've hung out with that it might surprise us to learn that
00:38:11they're capable of cooking and indeed cook something really well i'm i probably do the i probably have
00:38:19musician friends that are great cooks and i just don't know about it what what would you say then
00:38:24that you cook the best um i'm pretty good with any kind of seafood okay i think that was the thing
00:38:31you had to be good at in seattle because the the seafood snobs there big time uh from there i want
00:38:38to go to the hall of fame in 2013 you inducted heart into the rock and roll hall of fame and uh you had
00:38:43said that it excited you about the possibilities of the hall and the hall is the subject of so much
00:38:48discussion among music fans for the good people that have been inducted rightfully so and for the
00:38:54not necessarily bad but questionable inductions i love donna summer but would she or should she be
00:39:00in there before rush as she was should she be in there and the moody blues just in hayward's birthday
00:39:06just the other day and i played some moody blues on vinyl uh-huh they're still not in there and they
00:39:10travesty well there's so many of them that aren't in there and one wonders why but that moment of of
00:39:16doing that induction did something that re-inspired you about the hall itself well the what it what occurred
00:39:22to me in doing it well it not just occurred to me but i saw it because it was kind of a two-day
00:39:27event where we were doing rehearsals the first day and the second day was the actual event
00:39:30and so we were going in and out of the of the venue and there were heart fans outside with signs
00:39:38the day before lined up and across the street and everywhere shouting when i would come out
00:39:44and and then when the actual event was happening um and heart was being inducted as well as like
00:39:51any of the other artists who were being inducted the the the seats way in the back were the seats that
00:39:56the fans had and that's where the noise was coming from it wasn't coming from the tables it was coming
00:40:01from the fans and the fans were really the ones if it's not occurring to someone in that room
00:40:09of people that's deciding who should be nominated the fans will will make them look that direction at
00:40:16some point and it means something to them and that was when it kind of the the whole my whole
00:40:21perspective changed a little bit like they have the right to kind of demand that and to enjoy the idea
00:40:27that their favorite band or artist is in the rock and roll hall of fame and it means something to
00:40:31them that's if it does that's fair um i think there's a you know it's a slippery slope to even do
00:40:37something like that with them with an art form you know it can't be based on statistics which makes
00:40:43it tougher so it you know it becomes subjective um we're talking about rock and roll which should if
00:40:53it's doing what it's supposed to do shown any kind of institution particularly like a body or a jury
00:40:59that that that votes on who should be uh inducted into a hall of fame or not that's that's all kind of
00:41:06strange you know the the the first instinct of any rock star worth their salt when asked about the
00:41:13rock and roll hall of fame should be fuck them fuck this bullshit can i say that in this broadcast okay
00:41:18good you can um we say fuck all the time this is bullshit yeah uh but in fact could i get the
00:41:26audience on three to say fuck one two three there you go you can edit that in to the yeah rock and
00:41:33roll hall of fame yeah yeah you could say something about it we'll put the you saying that about the
00:41:38moody blues and then yeah i actually asked you on winter about it once when i did a broadcast from
00:41:43the hall of fame they have a radio studio in there and he danced around it but i'm when you actually did
00:41:48the presentation itself when you look out upon the several rows of incredibly uh talented people who are
00:41:54your peers yeah were you nervous what was your feeling i was super nervous i mean quincy jones and
00:42:00oprah were right in front of me really yeah and um i think they're both pretty amazing actually and
00:42:05and and uh and also you know it's not something that i do that often and i didn't want to i i had um
00:42:15written pretty much the whole thing and had re-edited it a few different times and you know
00:42:25i i want to it's the it's not like heart was going to get it's not like ann and nancy were going to get
00:42:30re-inducted five years from now and someone else can do it too you know that's it that's the one time
00:42:35you get to do it so i was nervous of not doing them justice and and not um you know having it not be
00:42:44uh the right speech really did i falter or do i say i tend to say things that that maybe i shouldn't
00:42:51say sometimes and if i'm writing it it's really hard for me to take that back out there's a little
00:42:56bit of if it feels like i'm not sure if that's if i should say that if maybe that's going a little too
00:43:01far there's another voice in me that says that's exactly what you should say then kind of thing um
00:43:07and it ended up being i i think when i went into uh there was a guy and they do this on these type
00:43:14of tv events where they'll they'll um they'll run your speech on a teleprompter and you have to read
00:43:19it in front of them so that they know that you know how to read on a teleprompter and um i so i read
00:43:25it for the teleprompter guy and and we got done and he and then he immediately said well yeah that's
00:43:31really great speech and he didn't i didn't know him and he and i felt like okay i got one guy
00:43:36he was the first guy that that heard it and i thought that made it a little easier but it was
00:43:41nerve-wracking yeah i got to go one time when jackson brown was inducted and uh i was on the
00:43:46main floor this is when it was at the waldorf astoria and prince was being inducted that same
00:43:51year and the dinner part had ended and uh this the lights went down and a voice said ladies and
00:43:57gentleman prince and he started playing and everyone jumped to their feet and instantly
00:44:03started dancing and i looked about 30 feet down and there's mick jagger dancing and i go oh my god
00:44:08i've made it i've i've arrived oh my god this is transformational and then the next morning back in
00:44:14philly i was cleaning cat litter and i go i'm not sure that i really have made it
00:44:19i don't know what the cosmic the significance of that is but i thought i'd share it with you
00:44:25um i want to move on to the fact well in terms of the hall of fame i think is soundgarden eligible
00:44:31as of this year or next year uh a couple years ago i think okay so is and i think they were brought
00:44:38up but maybe passed over to what's your thoughts on that i don't to me it's especially being a part of
00:44:44it it it feels like kind of like it feels like a gold watch to me that's not something that it's
00:44:52not something that that i really care about that much and it's also something that you know i care
00:44:58about it because if if fans care about it and it means something to them then it means something to
00:45:02me um and and i also think that the the amount of bands that get inducted every year and and looking
00:45:11like sort of going forward and seeing rock music for example sort of disappearing in a lot of ways
00:45:15you know the the market shrinking and record sales having an effect on it and um it is not the dominant
00:45:22force in popular culture or popular music anymore so what are they going to do you know when it's 2050
00:45:27rock and roll hall of fame they're going to have to have a couple of bands lying around um like the
00:45:33moody blues to even have a show the great-granddaughter of the uh one-time guitar player of a band called
00:45:42moody blues is going to come out and accept an award and she comes out on some hover board
00:45:47we're speaking with chris cornell and a couple more things before we let you go among uh those things
00:45:55um is i saw a picture of um johnny well it was johnny ramone's birthday would have been 67 the other day
00:46:01i did a big block of the ramones and then i noticed on your twitter page you had recently posted a
00:46:05really cool picture of you a much younger you but you with him and it looked like he had signed it
00:46:11um yeah what did the ramones mean to you um they there was a they were sort of a bridge to
00:46:19new music to me sort of a new idea of music and what it means and and uh when i was a when i was a
00:46:27little kid i i was a huge acdc fan and the first time i heard the ramones i realized that the nuts
00:46:32and bolts of it are the same thing but it's um it's something that i could relate to more you know
00:46:39it felt like this is more speaking to me and and my age group and and what i'm interested in and i
00:46:46don't really know why and some of it i think is the lyrics um it it wasn't a creepy biker guy
00:46:52singing songs about young girls so that that was you know i related to it more i didn't understand
00:46:59some of the lyrics which made it interesting because then i had to sort of figure it out
00:47:02um it was smarter it was it it just was that you know my i came in sort of right at that age of of
00:47:11kind of being able to find a new musical form which was punk um and seeing that translate into
00:47:20post-punk indie which was the world that soundgarden kind of lived in that was just 100
00:47:25creativity and pretty much zero um worried about commercial success you needed a few thousand
00:47:33dollars to make a record and you needed an indie label to release it and most of those labels kind
00:47:39of had were plugged into a network that had that had been building for a few years um so you could
00:47:45go out and tour you could essentially live out your rock and roll dreams um and write records and
00:47:52write songs and and be a band and not really have to worry about uh any other aspect of it so there
00:47:58was no carrot dangling in front of um in front of me and that sort of that pretty much started with
00:48:04with the ramones and a couple of other bands where where you see them doing it that way you have to
00:48:10sort of see that it's possible sometimes i think and then you know it is and then you start doing it
00:48:14there was a uh photo recently and there was i don't know what the appearance was but you were
00:48:19back on stage for an evening or a couple of songs anyway with tom morello which of course led to
00:48:25speculation about a possible audio slave reunion at one point you didn't think there might be a sound
00:48:30garden reunion there was um then it caused fans to question whether that might be a possibility could
00:48:35it yeah i think it's a possibility i think i think on in some way i'm sure there's a circumstance that
00:48:41will um arise where we end up in public doing some sort of an audio slave thing
00:48:48you can clap that's okay um and in terms of sound garden uh there was a picture posted recently of
00:48:58you and matt cameron i think he was playing guitar in the studio uh so there is a little work already
00:49:03being done on a new record correct yeah yeah we started writing it um over the last couple months
00:49:09reunions are such a an interesting thing and i read this great quote from you um you said it's
00:49:14it's great to still be having new experiences with the same group of guys because we invented a band
00:49:19together and kind of co-invented a genre of music being able to come back and experience being a band
00:49:26together at a different time in our lives has been really rewarding but it's also just nice to still
00:49:30share some part of my life with these people that have been so important to it i like yeah i think
00:49:36that that we and this is probably true of any band i remember seeing the joe strummer documentary where
00:49:42he talks about um falling outs that he had with band members and and and personnel changes and what
00:49:51that meant to him and by the end of his talking about it there's tears in his eyes and and he and he's
00:49:56saying you know the when someone is that special it doesn't really matter how they act or what they
00:50:02do you have to you have to hang in there you have to sort of forgive it and and uh you know with with
00:50:09soundgarden we didn't really have that we didn't really have resentments you know to piled upon
00:50:15more resentment it wasn't that difficult to get back into a room together um but we did share a lot
00:50:22of experiences that were super life-changing experiences that inform our lives today and it
00:50:30was just the four of us really so it would be a shame to be um living out the rest of our lives
00:50:38and not being able to do what we get to do now which is to to be able to now um be in a room and
00:50:45push it even further creatively and see it continue to evolve and still be a living and breathing thing
00:50:49and not just uh you know um a reminiscence something to talk about when we see each other
00:50:55once a year or something well with that it might could we uh trouble you to do another song no i'm
00:51:01sorry time is up sure we're gonna do we knew a song that uh i think um it's the first song brian
00:51:11and i ever played together he he came up on stage as a guest and played a couple times with me over the
00:51:14years and and uh this is called
00:51:18what so ever i fear it has come to life what so ever i fought on became my life
00:51:47judgment every day seemed to greet me with a smile some spots fading now i'm doing time now i'm doing time
00:52:03i fell on black days
00:52:09i fell on black days
00:52:15i fell on black days
00:52:21iam so ever i've cured i'm sickI'm bound
00:52:25i'm sickI'm alone
00:52:33and so ever i've cradled i'm put you down
00:52:39Searchlight's old as late
00:52:42I can't see it in the night
00:52:46I'm only faking
00:52:48We're not getting it right
00:52:51We're not getting it right
00:52:55Cause I fell on
00:53:03Black days
00:53:07To fill on
00:53:10Black days
00:53:14How would I know
00:53:17That this could be my fate
00:53:20How would I know
00:53:24That this could be my fate
00:53:37What you wanted to see, girl
00:53:57Is made you blind
00:54:00What you wanted to be yours
00:54:04Is made in mine
00:54:07Don't you lock up something
00:54:11That you wanted to see
00:54:14With my hands
00:54:15I'd be shaking
00:54:16No time
00:54:19No time
00:54:22I should not mind the change
00:54:28I should not mind the change
00:54:34I should not mind
00:54:38I should not mind the change
00:54:40Cause I fell on
00:54:48Black days
00:54:51I should not mind the change
00:54:53I should not mind the change
00:54:55I should not mind the change
00:54:57Black days
00:54:59How would I know
00:55:02That this could be my fate
00:55:05How would I know
00:55:09That this could be my fate
00:55:12How would I know
00:55:14How would I know
00:55:15That this could be my fate
00:55:19How would I know
00:55:21That this could be my fate
00:55:25I would have gone
00:55:38Chris Cornell on 93.3 WMMR
00:55:48helped out by Brian Gibson
00:55:49Where did you meet Brian?
00:55:52Well, it's kind of a long story
00:55:54it was there was this truck stop okay I was gonna make one up first of all I
00:56:01just I just love how he was able to almost harmonize with you vocally mm-hmm
00:56:06that was magnificent it was just amazing yeah that's that's a called a good
00:56:13musician yeah thank you you knew him I mean a mutual friend sent me one day some
00:56:24arrangements that Brian had done one of that song and another song and suggested
00:56:29that when I come through Atlanta I think it was was at Atlanta that um that I
00:56:35bring him up and have him do those songs I don't seem like a good idea and then we
00:56:39did it it was really great and so we did it a few more times whenever I would
00:56:43come through a town doing this where Brian was and so when I came out with this
00:56:50tour you know I'm playing a lot of new songs but I also felt like it would be
00:56:53nice to to add something else because this is like the fourth acoustic tour I've
00:56:58done in the US and and I thought be great to bring someone out and Brian came to
00:57:02mind first because you know we've done it and it was great you know there was
00:57:06there wouldn't be like a figuring out if it's gonna be good or not kind of thing
00:57:10I knew it was gonna be good so and and Brian's able to just kind of play on
00:57:14anything I throw at him even if I haven't come out and it's a song he's
00:57:19actually never played on before and doesn't have a part for it he'll just go
00:57:22at it you know he's not afraid and I like that that's great that's kind of the
00:57:26spirit of this type of a tour anyways I just kind of make it up as I go along so I
00:57:30like the idea that if there's gonna be someone out there for for a few songs
00:57:35that they're gonna be able to wing it to you know and I I change songs and
00:57:40rhythms in the middle of playing them all the time and he's kind of right there if
00:57:44you ever pulled out like a cover you've never done before and say oh my god or
00:57:47someone yelled it out from yeah I don't know if we've done that have we done that
00:57:51yeah I but I've been known to that are you happy yeah very much you seem like you
00:57:57just seem so so grounded so us you know you float in all these different universes
00:58:03musically and and thrive in all of them and it's really cool to see but I love
00:58:08you in this format and thank you I just I hope you continue to do it well I've been
00:58:14lucky you know to be able to do all these different things and have them sort of
00:58:19work harmoniously together and all of the people involved in them being happy and
00:58:25and then simultaneously you know having having a happy marriage in a and a family
00:58:32and being able to see that work and and all of those components kind of seem to work
00:58:37together all the time and it's been a while where it's you know it feels like it's
00:58:42something that's doable and so to be to be fulfilled in the artistically but have that
00:58:50not be causing problems in your personal life because it often does that that's a really
00:58:56huge thing and I've met you know a lot of musicians a lot of older very famous musicians on the road
00:59:04that we'd come to their show and and I'd have um Vicky and my kids with me and they'd make a comment
00:59:10that you know because I'd be on tour too and they would make a comment and say that you're doing
00:59:14it right and and good for you that that that's how you are uh that's how you were being a rock
00:59:23musician and and 2015 and being a good father and family member at the same time yeah so trying to
00:59:31see you know how how many bottles of Jack Daniels you can get through before you fall over listen
00:59:38everyone can't be Keith Richards okay um one final thing before we let you go I've played
00:59:44this for you once when we did a telephone interview uh but I wanted to play it with a
00:59:48little um more amplification here and I wasn't sure how clearly you could hear it communications
00:59:54are a fascinating thing we were talking about mercury retrograde off the air and when they go afoul
00:59:59it's also quite fascinating and I got a request when we play I play a lot of requests on my show and I
01:00:05love hearing from our listeners and MMR as I've told you before has been around for 47 years
01:00:09uh playing newer and older stuff and I've been here for 34 years but I love hearing from people
01:00:14so I answered the phone one day and um your song had just come out um do we can we have that is that
01:00:22ready to go how do we do it all right so um I went to the you should be able to hear this through your
01:00:27monitors or something but I went to the phones one day and I answered them and I said MMR good day
01:00:33hi how are you good how are you not bad I'd like to make requests for a Chris Cornell song okay what'd
01:00:38you have in mind uh you know the song that they played from Casino Royale the James Bond oh you
01:00:44know my name right Pierre you know my name correct yes Pierre Robert yes I know people I listen to you
01:00:50every day no no no no no that's the name of the song the name of the song no I have no clue the name of
01:00:56the song I'm sorry no that's the name of the I wasn't asking you if you knew me I was asking you
01:01:02if you knew the name of the song the song no I don't know it's uh it's from the Casino Royale
01:01:07it's called you know my name who's on third it's called you know my name I know your name I don't
01:01:15know the name of the song now the song is called you never mind what is your name my name my name's
01:01:21Chris all right Chris have a great day and thank you for the call thank you and the song is called
01:01:27you know my name you know my oh that's the name of the song now we're cooking with gas that's right
01:01:33have a great day buddy thank you bye-bye wow you got lucky that day and I played that with the
01:01:40Abbott and Costello bit uh who's on first uh you just can't pay for a call you have to give me a
01:01:47recording of that would you like that I'll get it for you it was as cool a day as I've ever
01:01:51had to the degree Chris that people will call that call is five or six years old and request
01:01:56the call really go into the song they request the call to go into the song and it's so magnificent
01:02:02anything you'd like to say to that Chris I don't know who he is where he is yeah you know what you
01:02:06rule thank you you're amazing having said that I want to thank Brian Gibson amazingly talented musician
01:02:14and we'd certainly like to thank you for your time ladies and gentlemen the album is higher truth
01:02:22and the gentleman who sings on it is Chris Cornell thank you thank you and this is 93.3 WMMR in
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