00:01A lot of Lions to talk about.
00:04They're actually going to play some guys on Saturday.
00:06Good.
00:07And we'll get into who you want to see, what you want to see,
00:10and Dan Campbell on the window being closed.
00:13Very strong statement.
00:14Before we do all the Lions talk, Stoney,
00:17this story that I think is going to bother everybody, NFL players,
00:20this could become a trend, could be leaving camp to go back
00:24to play college football.
00:26Yeah, Louisiana judge granted a temporary restraining order
00:28centering around the NCAA's five-year eligibility clock.
00:34So if you have eligibility left, even if you sign with an NFL team,
00:40you can go back to school.
00:42And it's ridiculous.
00:44Ole Miss tight end Daquan Wright played for the Cleveland Browns the other day.
00:50He's going to go back to school.
00:54Why not?
00:55Because he's going to get cut anyway.
00:56And then there's worlds where they'll make more money in college
00:59than a practice squad player in the NFL.
01:01Yes, with NIL.
01:02That's the only reason they're doing it.
01:04I assume that's the only reason they would do it, but yeah.
01:07Or to re-roll because can you re-enter?
01:12That I don't know.
01:13I don't know.
01:13But still a chance to improve your image and standing,
01:15and maybe another team signs you in a better role.
01:17Yeah.
01:18So eight former players who were the plaintiffs in the court decision,
01:23running back TJ Harden from SMU, like I mentioned, Daquan Wright,
01:27some other players, Avion Harris, Ethan Johnson.
01:31Anyway, Wright is listed on the Cleveland Browns roster.
01:36Harden played in the Seattle preseason opener before he was cut on Monday.
01:41Harris was waived by New Orleans on August the 8th.
01:45So you sign a contract, you get paid a little bit for being there
01:49in training camp, you get cut, and then I'll go back to school.
01:54What are we doing here?
01:57I mean, I don't want to sound like Mike too much,
01:59but this whole college football and basketball, it's getting absurd.
02:04There has to be, and I know the reason why,
02:07because the NCAA loses every freaking lawsuit that gets filed against them
02:13because, you know, look, these kids are 18 years old.
02:16They can do whatever they want.
02:18There's got to be some way.
02:20I don't know.
02:21Maybe the president can, executive orders that this can't happen.
02:26I have no idea.
02:27It's ridiculous.
02:29We need some kind of guardrails in our college athletics.
02:34It's okay, in my mind, for NIL money.
02:37It's okay to have at least one free transfer and maybe another one
02:41if your coach leaves.
02:42But this is getting ridiculous.
02:44Once you sign a contract with the professional league,
02:49whether it's the G League for the NBA for basketball,
02:53then you're done.
02:55That's how it always was.
02:57You don't like it?
02:58Go play in Europe.
03:00The issue is the NCAA is a toothless organization.
03:06There's no bite.
03:07Because they lose every time they get sued.
03:09So the answer is far messier.
03:11They need to create like a league, like college football.
03:16Everybody talks about breaking off.
03:17I don't know what it has to have to have.
03:20Like everybody agrees.
03:21We're not signing these people.
03:23It's against the rules for you to sign.
03:25Then they'll be sued for collusion.
03:29Okay, Stoney, I tried.
03:31I don't know.
03:31I don't know.
03:31It's just ridiculous.
03:35I don't know if the NFL can make an agreement with the NCAA
03:40or with the college football superpowers.
03:42But we have some, like five years is the rule, right?
03:45You can't play 10 years.
03:46Right.
03:46So you've got to find a way to create an enforceable rule
03:51at the college level where everybody agrees
03:53we're not going to take these guys falling from the NFL
03:56and catch them onto our college roster.
03:58We agree Ohio State's not going to do it
04:00and Michigan's not going to do it.
04:01No one's going to undercut one another.
04:02Ole Miss isn't going to do it
04:03and Mississippi State's not going to do it.
04:05We're not going to undercut one another
04:06to take these guys who are slipping between the cracks.
04:09Right.
04:09And look, the portal reopened now for these players.
04:17School started already.
04:18Oh, I forgot.
04:19They don't go to class.
04:20Well, and we talked about it a little bit
04:21with Jackson Kohler earlier.
04:23The trickle-down effect is going to throw people off rosters.
04:25Tom Izzo wasn't willing to do it
04:27and we can debate that separately,
04:28but there will be coaches
04:30who will kick kids off the roster.
04:32Yeah.
04:33And it's going to happen in bulk
04:35if this happens, right?
04:36If it's not one or two guys leaving the NFL.
04:38Right.
04:39It's going to kick a bunch of guys off of college rosters.
04:41Correct.
04:41For people who had already made the decision
04:43in good faith to leave college
04:45and join the professional ranks.
04:47That's what bothers me.
04:48This isn't like a limbo situation.
04:49Like Jackson Kohler was in limbo.
04:50Right.
04:51This was not a limbo situation.
04:53These guys made decisions
04:54to leave college behind.
04:56Sign contracts.
04:58Yeah.
04:58You shouldn't be allowed to go back.
05:00Exactly.
05:01Let me ask you a question here again.
05:03I will play devil's advocate
05:04because I'm disgusted with college athletics.
05:06I am so disinterested.
05:09My Sundays will be clear for NFL and Lions
05:11and you know what?
05:13If I can't got a conflict with Michigan,
05:15I might watch it later.
05:16That's where I'm at right now.
05:17It's so disinterested.
05:19But how is this different
05:23than in baseball?
05:24You get called up
05:26and you get sent back down.
05:28You're not good.
05:28You know,
05:29you're not good enough to make it.
05:30And so I'm going to go back to college
05:32and try to continue my career in football
05:35while I still have eligibility.
05:37Well,
05:38you stay in the same organization.
05:40That's one of the differences.
05:42Their argument would be,
05:43well,
05:43how is it different?
05:43But they don't offer.
05:45So this is our version of a minor league,
05:49which a lot of people are saying college football is.
05:51We could have Donovan Edwards come back,
05:53couldn't we?
05:54Or he used up all his eligibility.
05:56I'm not sure.
05:57I don't think.
05:58I think he did.
05:59Yeah,
06:00he might.
06:00I don't think he was there five years,
06:02but I think he played four years.
06:03He's still even on our roster.
06:04I don't know.
06:05I mean,
06:06at what point are we?
06:07Where he's going to like change the running back position.
06:10So this is just guys that are not drafted,
06:12right?
06:14Well,
06:14I think anybody who's cut,
06:15right?
06:16Anybody?
06:16Okay.
06:17So like JJ McCarthy,
06:19could he come back to Michigan again?
06:21He's got eligibility left.
06:23I mean,
06:24who wants that world?
06:26No,
06:27nobody.
06:27Nobody wants this world.
06:29But if they sued,
06:30if JJ McCarthy said,
06:31you know what?
06:32I want to go back to school.
06:34You know,
06:34they're saying if he was cut.
06:35Yeah.
06:36And then tried to go back to school and sued,
06:38he could get his way onto a roster.
06:40Probably.
06:40Cause the NCAA loses every lawsuit.
06:47It's a weird fricking world.
06:49Yeah.
06:50I mean,
06:50we got a texture and I just don't know the legalese of this league should be
06:52able to set rules.
06:53Like the NFL has rules.
06:55Correct.
06:56Is it that the NCAA is not a league?
06:58Yeah.
06:58There's not a true governing system.
07:01That's why they have to find,
07:02that's why they have to form their own organization,
07:06maybe outside the NCAA.
07:07And I know there's,
07:08he's right because,
07:09or if he or she who've texted us,
07:11right,
07:11they businesses can have your own work rules.
07:14So the NFL,
07:16but the NFL isn't doing anything wrong.
07:18No,
07:18the NFL,
07:19this isn't about the NFL.
07:21This is totally about how college is going to police eligibility and they
07:24have to navigate it through the court system,
07:26which Stoney's pointed out.
07:27They're just collecting L's left and right.
07:28Yeah.
07:31Two,
07:31eight,
07:31five,
07:31three,
07:31nine,
07:3297,
07:3297.
07:32I feel like one day we're going to put some guard rails back in place to
07:35save college athletics.
07:36We're going to get a crazy 30 for 30 on the absurdity of the current
07:41era we're living.
07:42Oh yeah,
07:42you're right.
07:43You are.
07:44And it's going to look back on the other 30 for 30,
07:46like with the SMU at the pony express.
07:49Well,
07:49they got the death penalty because they were getting,
07:51you know,
07:52payments.
07:54This text says that college sports are broken.
07:57I've never been less excited for a college football season in my life.
07:59And I'm,
08:00I consider myself a diehard.
08:01I mean,
08:02it's what Tom was talking about.
08:04I mean,
08:05I'm starting to rev up a little bit,
08:08but normally I'm way more,
08:10uh,
08:10you know,
08:11edge of my seat,
08:11ready for college football to start.
08:12I know.
08:13I'm like,
08:13I'm going on vacation.
08:14I would usually use that vacation and pour over the,
08:17uh,
08:18preseason football magazine.
08:20This is the first year,
08:20a long time.
08:21I didn't buy a single one of them.
08:22No street and Smith.
08:23No,
08:24no Athlon Lindy's Phil Steele.
08:27And that used to be part of the rituals.
08:29I get those about mid point of the summer.
08:31And then,
08:31but you know what it is?
08:32It's,
08:32it's even harder to keep up with college football than ever before with the
08:35portal.
08:36You feel like you got to do homework.
08:37Yes.
08:38And it's one thing if you want to do it,
08:39it's something to feel like you have to study just to feel like,
08:42you know,
08:43who's on your team who wants to do homework during the,
08:45uh,
08:45in the summertime.
08:46Nobody does.
08:47Exactly.
08:48We could take some calls on this,
08:49read some texts on this,
08:50and then we'll get in all the lion stuff.
08:51It's 97 one.
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