00:00Thank you very much.
00:33Thank you very much.
01:23Thank you very much.
01:30Confidential funds matter.
01:32Ang arkitekto at mastermind nito ay si Vice President Sarah.
01:36Your Honor, please.
01:37Your Honor, please. Objection.
01:39Sustain.
01:40Sa ganitong paraan tinahin ang prosecution team, ang mahigit apat na oras na pagtatanong kay Lemuel Ortonio, ang Assistant Chief
01:49of Staff ng Office of the Vice President.
01:51Nakapirma siya sa mga dokumentong isinumite sa Commission on Audit para sa liquidation ng confidential fund ni Vice President Sarah
01:59Duterte na may kabuang halagang kalahating bilyong piso.
02:04Puda ng Council for the Prosecution, pabago-bago umano ang paliwanag ng OVP sa COA, kauglay sa pinagkagastusan ng OVP.
02:13There were four explanations.
02:16There were four explanations for the same fund.
02:18You will also agree with me na kapag paiba-iba ang rason, maaring nagsisinungaling lang or talaga namang ito ay
02:31isa lamang scam.
02:33Move to strike the scam.
02:34So stricken off the record.
02:36Nag-reklamo ang depensa sa mga pananalitang ginagamit ng prosecution, kaya nagpaalala si Escudero.
02:43Remind the prosecution, Your Honor, not to use inappropriate words, Your Honor, like scam, mastermind, nagsisinungaling.
02:51We are not supposed to make insinuations, accusations or conclusions, Your Honor.
02:56It does seem that it's becoming a... I would rather use the word habit than pattern.
03:05For the panel of prosecutors to close their direct with such strong statements.
03:12When we use certain words that can be...
03:16Sa Tagalog bansag, binansagan mo na, binansagan mo na na scam or binansagan mo na na nagnakaw.
03:24It's not only the dignity of the court.
03:25I'm just saying, let's all be aware that when we say it, kahit sabihin mong withdrawn na to,
03:30kahit sabihin mong nice try, nice try, et cetera.
03:32We know that that's for the cameras, not just for the court.
03:37We apologize if... Sometimes we get carried away by our zeal and our passion, Your Honor.
03:44But we had the prosecution. We just want to call a spade a spade.
03:48Inalis sa record ang inareklamo mga salita.
03:51Pero may hininging paglilinaw si presiding officer Jesus Cudero.
03:56May ginawa ka ba na hindi alam o in-authorize ni Vice President Sarah Kaugnay sa confidential funds?
04:03Kasabay na yung pagsagot mo sa mga AOM, Notice of Suspension at Disallowance?
04:07None, Your Honor.
04:09Lahat alam niya at in-authorize niya?
04:11Yes, Your Honor.
04:12Tinanong din si Artonio kung bakit ginamit ang confidential fund
04:16para bumili ng gamot at pagkain gayong may regular na fund ang OVP para sa ganitong programa.
04:22At wala rin daw isunumiting resibo kundi acknowledgement receipts lamang.
04:27Hindi mo na tinanong si Ms. Acosta at ang security officer na iyong nabanggit kung nasaan ang supposed official receipts
04:38bilang patunay na ito nga ay nabili.
04:40The explanation that was provided to me, ma'am, was that binigay po ang pera directly doon sa mga informants
04:48and agents
04:49and the informants and agents na po yung bumili ng mga medical and food supplies.
04:57So, it's the acknowledgement receipt which is the proof.
05:02Nasaan naman daw kaya ang mga non-consumables gaya ng computer at lamesa na binili gamit ang confidential fund?
05:10Ang ari-ariang binili ng pondo ng bayan or pera ng bayan ay pag-aari ng gobyerno. Tama ba?
05:19Yes, I would say so.
05:21Hanggang ngayon, ikaw personally, Mr. Ortonio, hindi mo rin maituturo kung nasaan na itong mga mesa, upuan, supplies, computers,
05:33nagkakahalagang 3.5 million. Hindi mo naman ituturo kung nasaan sila.
05:38Considering that these are procurements for confidential activities, no, ma'am. I would have no personal knowledge.
05:47Binigay din yung pera sa informant, quote-unquote, that's your wording, para bumili siya ang bibili ng chairs at yun
05:55yung bayad sa kanya, quote-unquote.
05:58That's based on the information provided by the security officer.
06:05Emil, ayaw naman dito sa prosecution team ay pinag-aaralan pa nila kung isang salang nila dito sa witness stand,
06:12si Colonel Raymond Lechica. Siya po yung security officer ng OVP na sinasabing tumanggap noong confidential fund.
06:20Emil?
06:21Maraming salamat, Sandra Aguinaldo.
06:25Maraming salamat, Sandra Aguinaldo.
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