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00:25Ito ang nabanggit mong letter request
00:28for confidential funds in 2022.
00:30Tama ba, Mr. Ortonio?
00:34Yes, correct.
00:36Sa huling pahina nitong sulat na ito,
00:39there appears a signature above the printed name,
00:43Sara Z. Duterte.
00:44You will confirm that this is the signature of the Vice President.
00:49Yes, I can confirm.
00:51Kanyang binuksan ang prosekwisyon ng pagsalang
00:54ni OVP Assistant Chief of Staff Assistant Secretary Lemuel Ortonio
00:57bilang testigo sa impeachment trial ni Vice President Sara Duterte.
01:02Unang sinilip ng prosekwisyon ang letter request
01:04noong August 2022 para sa P250M na confidential funds
01:09na pirmado ng vice.
01:11Ipinunturin ang prosekwisyon kung paano walang anumang dokumentong
01:14sumusuporta sa kanilang request.
01:17For the OVP's request for confidential funds,
01:21in this letter, walang computation na binigay.
01:24Tama ba?
01:25That's correct.
01:26There was also no projection provided in the same letter.
01:29Also, there was no physical and financial plan attached to the letter.
01:34In fact, there was no attachment supporting the OVP's request for confidential funds.
01:41Correct?
01:42There were no attachments, ma'am.
01:44Meron daw mga paliwanag sa isinamitang letter request
01:47sa kung bakit nanghihingi ang vicepresidente ng confidential funds.
01:52Pero wala pa rin anumang programa, proyekto, aktividad
01:55na may kaugnayan sa national security at peace and order
01:58na nakasaad sa sulat.
02:00In the context of the plans and programs of the office,
02:04there has already been plans already at the beginning of the term of the vicepresident
02:08in July of 2022.
02:11At kahit August 2022, nag-request ang visa ng confidential funds.
02:15September 2022 pa na-aprubahan ng visa
02:18at na-sumite sa DBM ang physical and financial plan.
02:22Diyan sa box na may nakasulat na approved by,
02:25may pirma ulit, above the printed name, Sarah Duterte.
02:31Yan ay pirma ng vicepresident.
02:34Siya mismo ang pumirma niyan. Tama ba?
02:36Yes, that's her signature, ma'am.
02:38Pero na po na ng mga Sen. Judge,
02:41tila na iba ang pirma ng visa si Dokumento.
02:44The court noticed that the signature of the vicepresident in this document
02:48appears to be different from the signature in the August 2022 document.
02:52So the vicepresident has at least two signatures so far.
02:56Can you confirm that both are her signatures?
02:59Yes, I can confirm, Sir, Your Honor, that both are the signatures of the vicepresident.
03:03You can confirm likewise that they appear to be different though?
03:06Yes, that's correct, Your Honor.
03:08Ipinunto ng prosedusyon na basis sa sinamating physical and financial plan
03:12kabilang sa mga programang pupondohan
03:14ang Good Governance Program ng OVP na pinupondohan na
03:18ng General Appropriations Act ng 2022.
03:21Sa katunayan, sa 2022 GAA, may line item na 621.6 million
03:29na mismong para sa Good Governance Engagement and Social Service Projects.
03:35Tama ba?
03:37Yes, correct?
03:39Ipinakita din sa pagdinig ang apat na disbursement vouchers at mga cheque
03:43para sa apat na best na pag-withdraw ng confidential funds.
03:47Kinumpirman ni Ortonio na kasama siya ni dating OVP Special Disbursing Officer Gina Acosta
03:52ng i-encash ang mga cheque sa bangko.
03:55Ikaw lang ang kasama ni Ms. Gina Acosta ng i-encash mismo ito sa Land Bank,
04:03Shaw Boulevard Branch.
04:04Tama ba?
04:05Yes, when she requested me to accompany her.
04:08Kinumpirman rin Ortonio ng 125 million pesos na OVP confidential funds
04:13ay nagamit sa loob lamang ng labing isang araw.
04:16Mr. Ortonio, yung PAP po ninyo at yung request nyo sa confidential funds
04:20sa huling quarter ng 2022, ang plano nyo sana para sa buong huling quarter ng 2022?
04:28Based on the PFPs, Your Honor, it's as indicated here, it's for October to December.
04:34The SARO was released December 30 and then the withdrawal was made December 20.
04:40December 20.
04:42Tapos in-implement nyo hanggang December 31.
04:44Ba't ba kailangan madaliin yan? Hindi ba ang budget good for two years?
04:49Because, Your Honor, the request was made for the specific year which is 2022.
04:55Isa rin sa mga tinanong kay Ortonio ay kung bakit ginamit ng confidential fund
04:59para bumili ng gamot at pagkain lalo na ni Pondong OVP para sa ganung programa.
05:05Hindi mo na tinanong si Ms. Acosta at ng security officer na iyong nabanggit
05:11kung nasaan ang supposed official receipts bilang patunay na ito nga ay nabili.
05:18The explanation that was provided to me, ma'am, was that binigay po ang pera directly doon sa mga informants
05:25and agents
05:26and the informants and agents na po yung bumili ng mga medical and food supplies.
05:34So, it's the acknowledgement receipt which is the proof of the release of the funds to the informants or the
05:45agent.
05:47Nasaan naman daw kaya ang mga non-consumables gaya ng computer at lamesa na binili gamit ang confidential fund?
05:53Ang ari-ariang binili ng pondo ng bayan or pera ng bayan ay pag-aari ng gobyerno. Tama ba?
06:00Yes, I would say so.
06:03Hanggang ngayon, ikaw personally, Mr. Ortonio, hindi mo rin maituturo kung nasaan na itong mga mesa,
06:09upuan, supplies, computers, nagkakahalagang 3.5 million. Hindi mo naman ituro kung nasaan sila.
06:19Considering that these are procurements for confidential activities, no, ma'am, I would have no personal knowledge on where these
06:29items are.
06:31Inilahad din ni Ortonio na nagbigay siya ng 150,000 pesos mula sa kanyang personal na pera.
06:37Nakasunod ng request mula kay Acosta na base naman sa request ni Col. Raymond LaChica.
06:43At hanggang ngayong araw, di pa rin daw siya na re-reimbursed.
06:46Nilapit po ito sa akin ni Ms. Gina Acosta, our SDO.
06:51And then she mentioned that there was a request from Col. LaChica for an agent.
06:56I provided her with the request.
06:58And were you able to recover the 150,000, Mr. Ortonio?
07:02Unfortunately, ma'am, I was not reimbursed anymore.
07:05Bago pa man magtapos ang paglinig, pinana ng prosekusyon ang tila pa bago-bagong paliwanag ng OVP sa komisyon ng
07:12audit kung naisip ang nagkagasto sa nila.
07:15There were different justifications.
07:18You will also agree with me na kapag paiba-iba ang rason, maaring nagsisinungaling lang or talaga namang ito ay
07:31isa lamang scam.
07:32Move to strike the scam and nagsisinungaling.
07:36So, strike it off the record.
07:38So, isa pang punto, muling na strike off the record ang ilang salitang ginamit ng prosekusyon.
07:43Mr. Ortonio, kanina sinabi mo na si Vice President mismo ang humingi ng confidential fund.
07:52Siya rin ang nag-decide kung anong amount, kung magkaanong amount ang i-request.
07:57At pinirmahan niya rin ang approval para sa pag-release ng pondo.
08:02Pinirmahan niya rin ang mga liquidation reports at certification supporting the liquidation reports.
08:08Tama ba?
08:09Yes.
08:10Okay.
08:10In short, you will agree with me.
08:13This whole confidential funds matter, ang arkitekto at mastermind nito ay si Vice President Sarah Dittente.
08:20Your Honor, please.
08:21Your Honor, please.
08:23Objection.
08:23Sustain.
08:25Nagreklamo ang dipensa sa mga pananalitang ginagamit ng prosekusyon.
08:29Remind the prosecution, Your Honor, not to use inappropriate words, Your Honor, like scam, mastermind, nagsisinungaling.
08:37We are not supposed to make insinuations, accusations, or conclusions, Your Honor.
08:42But it does seem that it's becoming a, I would rather use the word habit than pattern, for the panel
08:52of prosecutors to close their direct with such strong statements.
08:58We apologize if, sometimes we get carried away by our zeal and our passion, Your Honor, but we at the
09:05prosecution, we just want to call a spade a spade.
09:09Bukas naman ng katakdaang cross-examination ng dipensa kay Ortonio.
09:13Ako si Joseph Morong, ang inyong saksi.
09:17Naniniwala po isang legal expert na napalalim ng testimonya ni OVP Assistant Chief of Staff, Lemuel Ortonio,
09:23ang detalika agaday sa confidential funds kumpara sa mga inilahad ng naonang testigo na si Gina Acosta.
09:29Sa kanyang pananaw, kung may magandang dipensa ang company Vice President Sarah Dittente,
09:33at may sapat na paliwanag, mainam na siya na mismo ang humarap sa paglilis.
09:39Narito ang ating report.
09:43Kung walang approval ng Vice President sa mga disbursement vouchers na to,
09:48wala rin confidential funds na may ilalabas dahil ang funds or ang pondong pinapatukoyan dito
09:54ay ang confidential funds for 2022 and 2023. Tama ba?
09:59If there is no approval, there is no release of funds.
10:02Sa kasimonyo ng Assistant Chief of Staff ng Office of the Vice President na si Lemuel Ortonio,
10:08lumabas na kung walang pirma ni Vice President Sarah Dittente o kinatawa niya,
10:12walang mailalabas na confidential funds mula sa kanyang tanggapan.
10:16Tingin ni Atty. Domingo Cayosa, dating pangulo ng Integrated Bar of the Philippines,
10:20mahalaga ang punto ito.
10:22Mahalaga na, mas direkta na yung sinasabi niya na,
10:25alam naman ng Vice President ito, diniscuss namin ito, alam niya ito, pumirma ako, pumirma siya.
10:30Kasi kung minsan yung mga nakakataas, the defense would say,
10:35hindi niya alam yan eh, trabaho na lang ng mga tao na yan,
10:38so therefore he should not be held accountable dito.
10:41Mas direkta yung kanyang testimony na,
10:43alam ito ng Vice President, lahat ng firma ko alam niya by her authority,
10:47by clearance ako sa kanya.
10:49So hindi na pwedeng i-insulate ang Vice President sa accountability or liability kung meron man.
10:57Para kay Cayosa, mas napalalim ang paghugot sa mga detalye
11:01kumpara sa naging testimonya ni dating Special Disbursing Officer Gina Acosta.
11:05Kasi ang inaamin lang ni Acosta is,
11:08utos ng Vice President na i-withdraw namin yan
11:11at ibibigay ko kay La Chica, period.
11:13Ang witness na ito,
11:15kwersado, kasi alalahanin natin,
11:18dinis-allow na ito ng COA at sabihin na,
11:20hindi tama ang paggamit nyo,
11:21pero nag-explain pa rin sila,
11:24nagbigay pa rin sila ng mga karagdagang ebidensya.
11:27So, mga detalye na yan.
11:29Na inaamin ngayon ng witness na,
11:31alam ito ng Vice President,
11:33pumirma nga ako, pumirma siya.
11:35Sa tingin niyo, anong direksyon dapat puntahan ng depensa
11:37pag oras na para sa cross-examination?
11:41Papatunayan nila na,
11:41bawat isa sa mga yan,
11:44nagamit ng maayos,
11:46sumunod sila sa COA Circular,
11:49at mayroong totoong pinagbigyan.
11:52Hindi yung mga nakakatawang pangalan lang.
11:56Pangalawa, ito pa,
11:58yung napakaraming resibo,
12:01iba-ibang pangalan,
12:02pero yung isang pumipirma,
12:03mabigat yun, di ba?
12:05Forgery yun eh.
12:06So, yun, yun na lang,
12:08dun na lang nila i-re-rebat lahat yan.
12:11Tingin niyo po ba,
12:13makakatulong kung mismo si Vice President Sara Duterte
12:15ang tetestigo sa impeachment court?
12:18Kung meron silang magandang depensa,
12:22at meron silang sapat na explanation,
12:25o kaya epidensya,
12:27pinakamaganda siya na mismo ang haharap.
12:29Kasi nga, yung mga defenses na,
12:32like, for example,
12:33insulated siya,
12:34hindi niya alam.
12:34Medyo nabuwag na yun.
12:36Mahirap mo lang,
12:37she has access to all those documents,
12:39alam niya yung mga transaction,
12:41kung hindi niya alam,
12:43subordinates niya ito,
12:44mga kakampi niya,
12:45mga ito,
12:45diisubo sa kanya lahat ng mga explanation.
12:48Now, if you're not sure,
12:50ya, sempre iiwasan mo na magtestigo.
12:53Ang depensa,
12:54naitanong kung nakapinsala ba
12:55ang mga naging testimonya ni Ortonio.
12:58Wala naman po akong nakita,
12:59but, you know, again,
13:00that will leave that to the appreciators of the court
13:02kasi baka sabihin,
13:04subjudice na tayo,
13:05and bukas maglalabas ng ruling.
13:07Natanong din si Powa
13:08tungkol sa paghingi-umano
13:10ng confidential funds
13:11bago magkaroon ng plano.
13:13Oh, I don't want to answer that, ma'am.
13:16Of course, we have an idea
13:18kung ano yung gagawin namin
13:20sa cross-examination,
13:21but I don't want to answer that muna
13:23kasi nga that really goes into the merits na
13:26of the proceedings today.
13:30Iniimbestigahan ng Ombudsman
13:32kung may bahid ng korupsyon
13:33ang mga flood control project
13:34sa Davao City
13:35bago ang panahon
13:36ng Administrasyon Marcos.
13:38Hamo naman ni Davao City
13:39Representative
13:40Paulo Duterte
13:41sa Ombudsman,
13:42ilantan daw
13:43ang lahat ng takong,
13:44proyekto,
13:45at mga pangalang sangkot
13:47sa umano'y anomalya.
13:49Saksi,
13:49si Bea Pinla.
13:54Ang epicenter po ng flood control
13:57bago dumating ang Marcos administration
13:59ay Davao City.
14:01Epicenter ng flood control noon.
14:03Ganyan inilarawan
14:05ni Ombudsman Jesus Cristine
14:06Ramulia
14:06ang Davao City,
14:08ang baluarte
14:09ng pamilya Duterte.
14:11Humarap si Ramulia
14:12sa House Appropriations Committee
14:13kaugnay ng hinihinging
14:15mahigit 7 billion peso budget
14:17ng kanyang tanggapan
14:18para sa taong 2027.
14:20Doon,
14:21tinanong siya
14:22kung iniimbestigahan din ba
14:24ang umano'y korupsyon
14:24sa flood control project
14:26sa nakaraang administrasyon.
14:27Davao po,
14:28yung ecosystem
14:29na aming tinutukoy.
14:32At napaka,
14:33kasi doon ho,
14:34maraming pondo
14:34na pumasok daw
14:35sa flood control.
14:37Hindi lang ho,
14:37madali talaga.
14:38Ang ecosystem of corruption
14:39po,
14:40mabigat.
14:40Mahirap pong pasukin.
14:42Mahirap pong
14:43kumuuhan ng informasyon.
14:46Maraming ho'ng taong
14:47hindi nagsasalita,
14:48pero hindi ho kami tumitigil.
14:50Hindi nagbigay si Ramulia
14:51ng halaga
14:52kung magkano ang
14:52flood control project
14:53na pumasok sa Davao City.
14:55Pero nilinaw niyang
14:56iniimbestigahan pa nila
14:57kung may dungis ng korupsyon
14:59ang mga flood control project
15:00sa Davao.
15:02Flood control
15:02because there's a big budget
15:03in the past
15:04in Davao City
15:05about flood control.
15:06That's just what I know.
15:09Well,
15:09we will check out
15:10the flood control there.
15:11Hinihingi namin
15:12ang reaksyon
15:13ni Vice President
15:13Sara Duterte
15:14na nakaupong mayor
15:15ng Davao City
15:16bago pumasok
15:17ang Marcos administration.
15:19Sa isa namang pahayag,
15:20hinamon ng kanyang kapatid
15:21si Ramulia
15:22na ipakita
15:23ang kumpletong record
15:24sa tinutukoy nito
15:25na epicenter
15:26ng flood control
15:27ang Davao City.
15:28Sabi ni Davao City
15:29First District
15:30Rep. Paolo Duterte,
15:32ilanta daw lahat
15:33ng taon,
15:34lahat ng proyekto
15:35at lahat ng pangalan.
15:37Walang pipiliin
15:38o exempted.
15:39Dagdag ni Rep. Duterte,
15:41huwag daw magpadalos-dalos
15:43sa pagsasalita
15:43at baka masira lang
15:45ang kredibilidad
15:45ng ombudsman
15:46lalot nag-iimbestiga
15:48pa lamang sila.
15:49Pagtitiyak ni ombudsman
15:51Remulia,
15:52iimbestigahan din
15:53pati ang mga opisyal
15:54ng kasalukuyang
15:54administrasyon
15:55na sangkot-umano
15:56sa flood control scandal.
15:58May assurance kayo
15:59na kahit involved dito
16:01ang secretaries
16:04ng kabinete
16:05ng Malacanang
16:06at kahit ang pangulo mismo,
16:09kahit tumuro din sa pangulo
16:10ay kasama yan
16:12sa iimbestigahan nyo.
16:14Tama po ba?
16:14Po,
16:15lahat po yan
16:16ay base sa ebidensya.
16:18Wala ko tayo
16:18sisinuhin dito.
16:20Kampante naman
16:21ang ombudsman
16:22sa kasong ihinahanda nila
16:23laban sa pinsan
16:24ng pangulo
16:24na si dating speaker
16:25Martin Romualdez
16:26sa kabila ng pagbawi
16:28ng testimonya
16:28ng apat sa dating bodyguard
16:30ni dating congressman
16:31Zaldico
16:31na nagdadawit
16:32kay Romualdez
16:33sa flood control scandal.
16:35We have other evidence
16:36pa,
16:36but we can prove that pa rin.
16:38Marami kami
16:38hindi magre-rekan
16:39sigurado.
16:40Sinabi rin ni Remulia
16:41na nagsasagawa na
16:42ang ombudsman
16:43ng lifestyle check
16:44sa mahigit
16:45isang daang
16:45opisyal ng gobyerno
16:46at pati social media pages
16:48ng mga kaanak nila
16:49sinisilip.
16:50We have been actively
16:51pursuing
16:54information
16:55on the people
16:56in commission
16:56on customs
16:58in LTO
16:59and other
17:03income generating
17:04agencies of the government
17:05because this
17:06spur
17:06most of the
17:07lifestyle
17:09sins
17:09happen
17:10including the
17:11BIR
17:12you're on.
17:12Pero
17:13aminado
17:13si Remulia
17:14na limitado
17:15ang kapangyarihan nila
17:16sa fact-finding
17:17investigation
17:18o pagkalap
17:19ng ebidensya.
17:20Probably
17:21yung isang batas
17:21na kinakailangan
17:22namin
17:22yung contempt
17:23powers
17:24na ibibigay po
17:25sa office
17:25of the
17:26ombudsman
17:26kasi
17:27parang wala
17:28hong
17:28ngipin
17:29kung hindi
17:30tayo
17:30bibigyan
17:31ng
17:31contempt
17:32powers.
17:33Ako si
17:33Brea
17:34Pinlak
17:34ang inyong
17:35saksi.
17:36Kumina
17:37at isa
17:37ng low
17:38pressure
17:38area
17:38ang bagyo
17:39sa labas
17:39ng
17:39Philippine
17:40Area
17:40of
17:40Responsibility
17:41na may
17:42international
17:42name
17:42na
17:43Atsani.
17:43Wala
17:44naman
17:44sa
17:45monitoring
17:45domain
17:46ng
17:46pag-asa
17:46ang dating
17:47bagyong
17:47obet
17:48pero
17:48posible
17:49itong
17:49pumasok
17:49muli
17:50sa
17:50tropical
17:50cyclone
17:51information
17:51domain
17:52sa rainfall
17:53forecast
17:54ng
17:54Metro
17:54Weather.
17:54Umaga palang
17:55bukas
17:56ay posible
17:56maging
17:56maulan
17:57sa bahagi
17:57ng
17:57Zambales,
17:58Bataan
17:59at
17:59Occidental
17:59Mindoro.
18:00Pagsapit
18:01ng hapon,
18:02may chance
18:02na rin
18:02ulanin
18:03ang malaking
18:03bahagi
18:04ng
18:04Luzon.
18:05Posible
18:05rin
18:06ang
18:06pulo-pulo
18:06at
18:06may hinang
18:07ulan
18:07sa
18:08Visayas
18:08at
18:08Mindanao
18:09pagdating
18:09ng
18:09hapon
18:10hanggang
18:10gabi.
18:11May chance
18:12na rin
18:12ulanin
18:12bukas
18:13ang
18:13Metro
18:13Manila.
18:22Pagdating
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