00:04I want to get into this Durin stuff,
00:06but Otto just walked in and went Hiroshima on the update.
00:09You guys look like you lost a puppy here.
00:11What do you mean you're taking the ticker away?
00:13What was the point of taking the ticker away?
00:15I'm thinking this is having anything to do with gambling.
00:19They said they've already done it for college football playoff
00:22and I think NFL playoff games.
00:23There's no other games.
00:26On a Saturday when there's 130 teams in action,
00:29what's wrong with the ticker?
00:31You want to get rid of stuff?
00:33Get rid of Dan Orlovsky and Laura Rutledge.
00:35There's a start.
00:37What are we talking about?
00:39The ticker's quality.
00:41This ranks right up there with the NFL moving the extra point back
00:45to the 35-yard line.
00:47This is a worse decision than the glow puck.
00:49You've got to be kidding me.
00:52Otto, you don't have any details on this?
00:54You just waltz in, light the studio on fire, and then leave?
00:58It's part of your news, so therefore it is important.
01:00I thought it was kind of a cool story, so I tossed in.
01:03I didn't know it was going to be this big, though.
01:05I don't know.
01:06I'll offer more details next, Ted.
01:08How about that?
01:09Be listening.
01:10He'll be back with traffic and weather on the 8s.
01:12All right.
01:12We'll talk to you momentarily.
01:14That is a very weird thing.
01:16I'm in shock.
01:17I guess they don't want you to turn away to other channels now?
01:20Well, the ticker, it's part of the immersion of your Saturday.
01:27It is.
01:27They say they want it to look cleaner.
01:29I don't know.
01:29I don't agree with that.
01:36Keep inane WNBA pregame shows.
01:40Get rid of ticker.
01:41I quit.
01:42Okay.
01:43That makes zero sense.
01:45Great.
01:45The world gets more Monica McNutt and less tickers.
01:50That's who is making these decisions.
01:53Yeah.
01:54David, talk about Duren.
01:55I need a moment to collect myself.
01:57How am I going to know the score to UMass and Eastern Michigan game
01:59if the ticker's gone?
02:01You're going to have to look on your phone, I guess.
02:02I don't want to do such things.
02:04I understand, but...
02:06Plus, it's always so satisfying when the ticker comes up
02:08and you go, oh, look, East Carolina is flashing.
02:12Was it three?
02:13Was it seven?
02:15The ticker is a part of our Saturday.
02:17You know what?
02:18You're right.
02:18It is.
02:18When it's flashing, you know there's a score.
02:21You know some ish just went down.
02:22What just happened here?
02:25Oh, they scored another touchdown.
02:26Okay.
02:27How are we supposed to be shocked that this guy plays for that team now?
02:32Huh?
02:33Oh.
02:33When you see the stat.
02:34Yeah.
02:35When you see the guy like this guy scored a touchdown,
02:36you're like, I didn't know he played for Idaho now.
02:38There you go.
02:39Well, Idaho's won double-A, but I appreciate the reference.
02:42Shout out Vandals and the Kibbe Dome.
02:43I knew that.
02:44The Vandals.
02:44Most famous Vandal to play in the NFL?
02:47He was a Niner.
02:50Mike, are you potty?
02:51All right.
02:51Let's keep moving.
02:54Let's just keep it moving, baby.
02:56Mike in the potty.
02:57All right.
02:57He was a guard for you and a pro bowler.
03:00I don't remember.
03:00How dare you.
03:01What about Mark Schlereth, another Vandal?
03:04Oh.
03:04He was a Vandal?
03:05Yes.
03:05Okay.
03:06I'm a complete disappointment.
03:08Wow.
03:08David, talk to him.
03:10You know what?
03:10We don't need a ticker.
03:11Mike, you just go stand on the building with a megaphone.
03:14Take one from my desk and just give us the scores of the games and famous alums.
03:18I can do that if you'd like.
03:20I'll have a megaphone.
03:22Your weekends are now free.
03:23There you go, buddy.
03:24No, I'm so excited.
03:26There you go.
03:27All right.
03:27So let's get into the Darren thing.
03:29David, do you want to read the report for everybody?
03:31Sure.
03:32I will read the report.
03:33So NBA insider Jake Fisher works for Yahoo Sports and he released this.
03:38I talked with someone today who still believes he's on track, meaning Darren, for a four-year,
03:44$160 million deal.
03:46He's clearly going to want something closer with what Kessler got and Mitchell Robinson got.
03:53That was his report.
03:54Four years, $160 million.
03:59So it begs the question, what was the point of drawing a hard line if you're still going
04:06to give it up on the first date?
04:07Like what was the point of Trajan doing all of this if it ended in paying him $40 million
04:15a year?
04:16You hurt a bunch of feelings.
04:19You've had this awful offseason and you end up giving him the cookie.
04:25$40 million a year for this guy?
04:29I leave it to Pistons fans.
04:31I need to hear from you.
04:32You know, we don't have basketball elite in this town.
04:35We do have hockey elite.
04:36Four at $160 for Darren.
04:39You could have had that done months ago.
04:42Why did you wait?
04:43And it's also in that report that I guess they're back on good terms as well.
04:48There's no hard feeling.
04:50Yeah, because they're giving him $40 million, jackass.
04:54I understand.
04:55My thing to this, I said it yesterday, Mike.
05:00This was typical Detroit.
05:01Why did you bid against yourself?
05:03He had no place to go.
05:04He still has no place to go.
05:06Why are you paying $40 million?
05:08Here's $30 million.
05:10Take it or leave it.
05:11Hey, when Sacramento told you no, that pretty much told you everything you need to know.
05:16Unless you're going out to East Palestine, there's nothing else out there for you, buddy.
05:20People, I would really love a conversation because, look, it's a report.
05:25It's on Yahoo.
05:26I don't know Jake Fisher.
05:28I thought we had a guy named Jake Fisher who worked here before.
05:31The point I'm making is, look, $40 million a year, no one agrees with that decision.
05:38No one.
05:39That is, it's obscene.
05:42He has not earned that.
05:44And if you held this line for this long, how on earth could you go back on that?
05:51If you're going to sign him, the deal that needs to come out is $30 a year, $28 a year,
05:56$31 a year, $40 a year.
05:59Then why'd you waste your whole summer?
06:01And I think negatively affect your offseason.
06:05David, what do the people have to say?
06:11That's a great question.
06:12Nothing yet.
06:13Good.
06:14Excellent.
06:15I think that might be the answer.
06:16Like, this can't be the offseason.
06:19Meaning, you sat here and we had a report last week that said things were ugly.
06:24Negotiations were ugly between the two.
06:26And now, a week later, now they're mending fences, four years, $160 million.
06:32David, David, I'm negotiating with you.
06:36You offer me nothing.
06:37I hate you.
06:38Two days later, here's four at $160.
06:40I love you.
06:42But that's where the Pistons lose.
06:45Because they shouldn't be offering him this.
06:47Why are you negotiating against yourself?
06:50And that's what bothers me.
06:52It's not like you were hotly contented.
06:54Like, everybody wanted him and it was a bidding war.
06:56There was no bidding war.
06:58Son, we'll offer you whatever.
07:00And either you play or you take the qualifying offer and you try to screw us over.
07:05But we're not giving you that money.
07:07Like, how did you all of a sudden become a $40 million man in just a matter of days?
07:13Like, what happened?
07:14I don't get it.
07:15And I also don't understand Trajan Langdon.
07:17If you had a hard line, if you didn't want to pay him more than $30 to start the year,
07:21and you didn't want to pay him more than $30 to finish the year, you drew a hard line in
07:25the sand.
07:26Okay, so this means Jalen Duren beat you.
07:29This means you don't have the chops to be a true killer GM in this league.
07:34There's no world you cave in now.
07:36None.
07:36No.
07:37I'm with you.
07:38But you know what?
07:39One person is happy other than Jalen Duren.
07:42Paul's been sitting outside of LCA for the longest, waiting for that move.
07:47That this is not the move.
07:49This isn't the move.
07:50No, I didn't want this.
07:52I wanted them to actually get, like, Jalen Brown or something along those lines, not just extend Duren for $40
07:57million a year.
07:58You think Paul's been out there on a sandwich board saying, bring me Duren?
08:02That's not what that was about.
08:04I thought maybe he was just like, just give me anything about now.
08:07Because that's what this feels like.
08:08Well, we got to make a move, because I don't see why you had to do this, because he had
08:15no place to go.
08:16He still has no place to go.
08:18Well, he does now.
08:19He shows up for the hit, because you're paying him.
08:21You cornered him.
08:23Here's what we'll give you.
08:25As a matter of fact, we can be nice and give you the $30 million a year, or we can
08:29just say, you know what, $25.
08:30You should have took the deal earlier.
08:32You're going to pay a stupid tax.
08:34But this, you rewarded him.
08:36I don't know what I'm more surprised about.
08:38The report or the lack of response from the people.
08:44Maybe I don't give a damn.
08:46But to me, Duren has been a source of consternation for months.
08:50The idea that your GM would have caved, to me, that just tells me Trajan's just a poser.
08:59You're not a real GM if this is what you're going to do.
09:01You can't be Don Corleone all offseason, and then, oh man, things are getting uncomfortable.
09:084-160.
09:10And by the way, how stupid a contract would this be?
09:13That syncs up when Cade's deal is done.
09:16Correct me if I'm wrong on that.
09:18I think so.
09:20Let me double check.
09:21No, because I had respect for Trajan because at least he said, I'm not going to go a penny over.
09:27Once you come to your senses and you lower your standards, we can sign this deal.
09:32All of a sudden, you just said, ah, I'll give you the 40.
09:35You're one of my guys.
09:37That is correct because Cade has four years left on his current deal.
09:40Which is, you have to stagger your deals.
09:44Can't have both guys coming up in the same damn summer.
09:49Now, I'd like to stay for the record.
09:50I said, trade this guy before any of this happens.
09:53So, you can miss me with all of that.
09:55See, and that's what's also confusing about the offseason is because they refuse to even listen to sign and trade
10:00offers for Jalen Duren.
10:01Correct.
10:02Because they thought they had the leverage.
10:03Yeah.
10:03And they thought they could play hardball.
10:05Well, you were playing hardball.
10:07You have to see it through.
10:09You have to put Jalen Duren to a choice.
10:11Are you seriously going to, now let's make an assumption.
10:15Let's say they offered him 30 a year.
10:17So, 120 million over four years.
10:20Are you going to leave 111 million on the table to take 9.5 and buy your free agency freedom?
10:30That's the leverage.
10:32That's the choice you put the player to.
10:35This?
10:36This?
10:37Yeah, this is you went against yourself.
10:39You just woke up and said, he's going to be one of our core players.
10:43We've got to take care of him.
10:44I don't understand it when I heard about it late last night.
10:48I didn't understand their offseason.
10:48And if this is the end of the offseason, there is no one who could ever explain this to me.
10:54Because you did limit yourself knowing you still had to resolve the Duren thing.
10:59You weren't able to get any real deals done.
