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Do the Pistons want Duren to accept the qualifying offer?
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00:00you know what the tigers magic numbers uh they don't have one no they do their tragic number
00:06no there's even better it's the magic number uh-huh it's called three until i don't have to
00:11look at them anymore so let's let's just dive into something relevant we are going to sink our teeth
00:17into whatever this jaylen duran situation is now the lions have kind of covered up the mess in the
00:25corner been a lot of conversation about it we had the michigan state notre dame thing with the nfl
00:31injury fiasco but the duran thing there's been a lot of news and the pistons have now gone five years
00:38200 million dollars i'm not going to yell i'm going to maintain calm but i've said since the
00:47beginning this guy has a weird view of himself and his agent who's primarily an nfl agent only has i
00:58believe one or two other nba guys one of which was tory eason a guy who played his free agency
01:05very
01:05similar to this turned down 100 mil to take 81 rico i'll just tell you like we can get into
01:13this
01:13there's a lot of the emotional stuff you get reports that like things are tense uh there's a
01:19disrespect factor for duran all i will tell you is the pistons are absolutely 100 negotiating against
01:27themselves because jaylen duran even if he took the qualifying offer and went to the kings the most
01:37he's gonna get with the qualifying offer and the kings maximum is 196.6 and there's no way to get
01:45to
01:45the kings without risking your career for 9.5 mil right the pistons are offering five at 200 makes
01:51absolutely no sense none the only way this makes sense is if this is all kade back kade says make
02:00it
02:00happen make me happy get my guy back here i don't care i please please tell me kade went in
02:07there and
02:07said make me happy i mean that's what it's at 200 million dollars kade went in there and said make
02:13me
02:13happy at least that's what it seems because you're right you're bidding against yourself and as far as
02:20during goes it's almost as if it's a tax i'm angry at you so you're gonna overpay me so that
02:27i can
02:27finally get over how angry i am at you so not only do i want the steak and lobster but
02:33you're gonna
02:33get me uh cherries flambe for dessert as well and i'm gonna sit here and take my time eating it
02:39before i finally say okay my problem in all of this is at the beginning of this the pistons refusal
02:46to talk sign and trade i said it the day he went to sacramento to shake his ass for spare
02:53change
02:53he don't want to be here you don't go to the alleyway when you're living in the penthouse
03:01you're here you just won 60 games you're the one seat you you unless you're jed york uh-oh
03:09uh-oh he was looking for some different vacuum cleaners uh call 1-800 stallions all right so look
03:18the problem in all of this you're the same guy at training camp last year at media day said you
03:23want to spend the rest of your career you love this city you want to give it all for this
03:26town
03:27look at what we're dealing with here this guy the pistons have gone from a place like i think you
03:33and
03:33i were pretty comfortable like dude i i give you 30 mil a year i give you five at 150
03:39that's probably
03:40my top line rico they have gone right through the rev limiter and look if you factor in i don't
03:49want to
03:49overly nerd out but i want people to understand something if you factor in federal taxes and state
03:55taxes if he signs with the pistons at five at 190 okay he nets 106 five at 190 if he
04:05goes to the
04:06kings qualifying offer plus the kings max him out he only nets 91 he's cost himself 15 million dollars
04:14so that's it one and that's at 190 pistons have now gone to 200 so let me ask you and
04:22i want to
04:22ask our audience the following set of questions a have you had enough like are you finally with me
04:29on this you want to trade the guy two what do you view the pistons as right now i mean
04:37they have
04:38gotten played i i i scoff there's a good word for you at these reports that they've played this well
04:45and they've drawn a line in the sand how can you say they've played it well when you're going to
04:50give
04:50a guy 40 a year and you most certainly don't want to do that they did not play it this
04:58couldn't go
05:00worse for them if they try i don't know what trades in game for this is but mike when you
05:07look
05:07at this this is jaylen duran saying i don't want to be here and no matter how much you offer
05:13me i want
05:14more it's almost starting to have the feel of the tarix school ball with the tigers where okay give us
05:21a number and let us work to that number no and his agents the only thing missing is duran's agent
05:27out
05:28here giving us nursery rhymes except for i applauded the tigers and i still do they didn't go out and
05:34say
05:34we're going to break the bank with school ball we're not giving you 400 million dollars okay that's
05:39not on the table right now so if we got to trade you we'll trade you for this you're bidding
05:46against
05:47yourself there's 200 million dollars and apparently that's not good enough for him because you hurt his
05:54feelings by not offering this deal sooner so now he's just hanging you out to dry making trades and
06:01langdon and the pistons organization look like complete like they're amateurs well the offseason
06:06was amateur think about it they did it all backwards the minute during the red wings this would be the
06:13biggest story that's fair and look here's another thing that i just believe in my heart like if you
06:18gave me a choice between jd and a sore thompson i'm taking a sore i have my reasons i think
06:24they kind
06:24of planted a flag because the soars deal got done with no fanfare and you look at the offseason this
06:32is hung over their head the whole way don't tell me that the duran impasse didn't affect their ability
06:39to get other things done and and i think that falls at the feet of trajan langdon like look at
06:44the shams
06:44report right here the pistons and duran are at an impasse and it's up in the air as to whether
06:49he'll
06:49be reporting for camp and showing up for media day at that point i'm telling the player kick rocks
06:57yeah i'm trading you we're done here a sore thompson knew and knows his value so when the pistons
07:04came with that deal there may have been a little negotiation but he's like okay i have some improvement
07:09to do but man 155 million i'll sign that extension let's go jalen duran doesn't know his value
07:18he thinks it's more he thinks that he should be paid as one of the top centers and probably i
07:23mean
07:23i read a report saying that the knicks are uh in negotiations with carl anthony town so i guess
07:29if cat makes a ton of money duran's gonna say well where's mine yeah but they're two totally
07:34different players i understand this man doesn't see it that way right well he needs to get his eyes
07:40checked that's what i said i think he's overshot his value whereas sar thompson knows his value yes
07:46this is a fair deal okay i'm a part of this team let's go win some i want to hear
07:51from the people
07:52on it and again if you if you say look we have to bring him back you know what are
07:56we without him
07:57you can play that game i'm not paying him 40 if the big three of this team is 130 million
08:06dollars
08:06and it's cade a sore and duran you are going to win exactly nothing i view what duran's doing as
08:15a gift
08:16get him out of here because i can't play a sore and duran together want me to go back to
08:21the playoff numbers
08:22where your offensive efficiency per hundred possessions was about 10 points a game lower than the brooklyn nets
08:30who were the worst in basketball i look i am at a point i'm not asking anyone to agree i'm
08:37just
08:37telling you where i'm at i've been done with this guy all summer i this is laughable and the fact
08:43that
08:43this team upped their offer i will go to 190 i will go to 200 who are you bidding against
08:50bigger question mike what happens when you hit that magical number it's all well in the duran camp and
08:56now he's going to come back here put on a pair of buffs and embrace the team and embrace the
09:00city
09:00i don't think so and and i know what's going to happen you'll get team friendly media telling you
09:06that they did some retreat and k did some trust falls and they sang a bunch of songs together i
09:11don't buy
09:12it to me he's he's he's now skated over into that whole dylan lark and terrick scoogle territory where
09:18you know what maybe it's just best we part ways i just i think to me the problem i have
09:24goes back to
09:25the pistons had the right idea last offseason they didn't even want to go to 30 million
09:30and i think they had the right idea at the start of this offseason the problem is trajan didn't want
09:35to make a big boy decision the decision is simple this is the best the deal's ever going to be
09:41take it now or it's off the table and okay you want to do a sign and trade we'll work
09:47with you on
09:47that but what did they do rico they shot down the very utterance of a sign and trade so teams
09:54spent
09:54their money filled their rosters and now you're dealing with a guy who might just be cuckoo enough
10:02to do the qualifying offer or here's the best part you do sign him to this deal but he demands
10:09a trade
10:10there's just i don't see how it goes back to the way it was i don't i don't either but
10:16that's why i say
10:17i hearken back hearken i think that this is has cade written all over this this is cade i want
10:25my
10:25guys here i can win with these guys because we we we all came in together you want to welcome
10:31the
10:31gentleman yeah let's do that i use that term loosely with david paul sarah's a prince paul go ahead
10:38please oh paul wait paul how is it outside of lca because i know you've been outside waiting for
10:45some news all summer there's there's nothing happening all right paul put on that burger king
10:50crown baby there's just got to be more there is not there i i've been left in the cold rico
10:57this poor
10:57guy paul's living in a box it was it was it was boiling hot this summer now it's cold outside
11:03and paul's
11:04still there guys there's got to be more now i put the tinfoil hat away i'm good now you guys
11:10were
11:10right nothing's happening they they botched the whole offseason to your point it's only been covered
11:15up by the fact that red wings were even worse uh but i just don't understand what's happening i don't
11:20know why the pistons raised from 190 to 200 like it doesn't make any sense to i'll tell you what
11:25that
11:26is that's a feelings tax they're trying to make nice that's like when david informed his family that he
11:33had another family and he came home with a box of chocolates and flowers in this case it's 10
11:38million more but to your point i just think what's going to happen is if he doesn't end up signing
11:42that he's just going to ask for a trade immediately after anyway and again here's the problem okay i'd
11:48like to take i see paul sarah's tinfoil hat and i raise it a tinfoil crown this is the same
11:55league
11:56we have secret contracts i mean this sacramento crap with scott perry and this love affair that
12:03when scott perry was with the knicks he wanted them to draft him and they did but they traded him
12:08and he's the one who got away and then where did he go to try to shake his ass for
12:12dollars i could
12:14totally see sacramento already gonna listen we're gonna have the decks cleared next summer take that
12:18qualifying offer or get these beakmans to sign you demand the trade and we'll step to the plate
12:26that's where i think it's gonna end up going because i mean technically he talked to the
12:30lakers first and then they were like walker kessler you can go yeah one guy can shoot the other guy
12:34can
12:34all right well i'm going to sacramento wait did you just say sacramento what it
12:39i said it the day it happened that it was not accidental and when you go to a place like
12:45that
12:46you're telling me you don't want to be here you're telling me you're willing to go to the
12:49ends of the earth and you value your alleged friendship with scott perry over what you're
12:54building here in detroit look people i know the tigers put you to sleep people what are we doing
13:00with during what are we doing five at 200 where's your opinion of this guy where's your opinion of
13:06trajan because i think he got stuffed in a locker on this one and i'm sure somebody out there and
13:12that
13:12friendly ass media will write a piece how yeah it was the right move bro he got stuffed in a
13:17locker he escaped the locker he keeps getting stuffed back in the same locker just goes to
13:22pick up his books and gets hurtled back in there again back in there the lakers talked to him for
13:26five minutes we're like let's get walker kessler in here at 32 million no the lakers answered the phone
13:31like walker oh jaylen oh i'm sorry uh let me put you on hold
13:40david anything you'd like to add i mean talk to me because i look rico and i have both been
13:45hopped
13:45up to talk about this it's just we had bigger things to do the idea that they're at five at
13:50200
13:51come on david come on well the thing is i've come around it's really it's really crazy how this has
13:58really come around because i was on the side of trajan langdon i was like oh yeah of course you're
14:03doing the right thing by not paying him and then the number kept increasing in every report it kept
14:08going up and up and up and the problem i have is okay so you don't want to pay him
14:13or you said you
14:14didn't want to pay him a certain amount but yet you rejected the ability to sign and trade him
14:20that's the problem where i'm now turning around and saying we're trading what were you even thinking
14:24because if you don't want to pay him and you didn't want to go to a certain number then you
14:29should
14:29have had it open in your mind for a sign and trade there's the jalen you want this go find
14:35it and i
14:35will trade you to that he had a battle plan but no contingencies thank you and i think you quickly
14:41found yourself where you needed contingencies because you were being rational with an irrational
14:45person look there let me be very clear i'm not happy if he signs here five at 200 i think
14:53that deal
14:53will cement you never winning a championship i'm not being hyperbolic i just don't think you can win
14:59in today's nba with two guys who can't score the ball and by the way no supporting cast around kate
15:06at a
15:06high level so that again it's not a win if he comes back it was only a win if it
15:12was you know 150
15:15no maybe at least a sore you can say defensive specialist he could go out there and lock some
15:20people up during you're a lob merchant i mean you're there for the alley oops that's a lot of
15:27money for alley oops can't wait for our first but he's only 23 been in the league for five years
15:32we're
15:32done i don't want to hear he can still improve and gain a jumper apparently hasn't been a priority yet
15:38well wake me up when it starts 248-539-9797 let's get into this jayland duran stuff there's a lot
15:45of
15:45meat on the bone with this one