00:12uh uh turn your mic on you're gonna sing uh uh yeah this is the first time i've heard this
00:21come on it's probably been on somewhere in the background i mean you had to subconsciously
00:27kind of recognize it this came out in 2006 yeah yeah that was the year lucy was born so it's
00:33not
00:33like the kids had it on and i don't listen to this style of music but you go to weddings
00:37and events
00:39and it's just play i mean it's still like they still play it made a great song for your at
00:44your
00:45time of your career sos yeah 2006 that's about the end there yeah the poorest days steve spurrier i
00:53can fill in the o um yeah because it's still uh i mean they still play it you still hear
01:00it
01:01it's not like it it was only played in 2006 and then went away and like walked into like a
01:05bar
01:06or something like that and this hasn't been on in the background it has the bars that i would walk
01:11into would not be playing this style of music yeah i'm not going to the club i know but you
01:16have
01:17daughters they're not going to the club either no i'm just saying like that that listen to
01:22general pop culture yeah but at the time that lucy or ruby would have been old enough to play
01:29music like this they would have i mean it would have been 2000 it's still on air though 18 they
01:36could still be playing today at least in high school yeah she could it could be on in her car
01:42she doesn't get to decide even if i'm in her car oh wow i decide the music that's being played
01:49so they don't play this at the saloons that you go to no no yeah maybe it's the last song
01:56it's time
01:56to go home everybody get out of here and then everybody runs for the hills they turn this on
02:01there'd be a big bar fight yes this is how they get everybody to stop fighting just leave
02:08couple texts from the two grand slam that was a missed opportunity signed scott in detroit
02:16at capital of iceland come on gov you tightwad that's sean the mailman i'm not happy with this
02:22narrative that i it's my money john odyssey's money you're the gatekeeper yeah you can help give
02:29away the money like the banker and deal no deal i picture you like that it's yeah the guy behind
02:34the the glass all you see is your the silhouette silhouette smooth round head
02:44what's the capital of zimbabwe
02:49wrong who's got the better ball dome me or petzing oh you yeah i think it's you oh yeah oh
02:55i don't
02:55even think it's close thank you oh yeah i mean he's a guy that needs to wear a hat did
03:01you the text
03:01yesterday called you an egghead did you i don't he was in here for that uh no i think we
03:07were we
03:07were throwing him under the bus while he was over there talking yeah we were going yeah let's just go
03:11ahead and and dive in on tom yep can't defend himself okay but if we're if we're if we're grading
03:19bald heads i think yours yours would be much better than true petzing okay good deal all right
03:26dan campbell going to join us at 802 here from the lions head coach until then we talk a little
03:31jalen duran sure what what should we discuss well there's a clip from yesterday's press conference
03:37trajan langdon that you wanted to play for people trajan talking about how disrespect and feelings play
03:44you want to play into this
03:46you want to play into this
03:46you want to play into this
04:14Love it. Absolutely love it. It's a business decision. And if Jalen Duren is going to make a poor business
04:23decision, it's not up to the Pistons to make that decision for him.
04:30Yeah, it felt very much like there's no longer any chance to negotiate. He has our best offer. He will
04:36either take that offer or he will be here on a one-year deal.
04:40Either way, Jalen Duren will be a Piston. We'll see you in the facility come Thursday. I'm a little nervous
04:47he's going to do the right thing financially and take that money.
04:52I think Trajan knows it, too, which is why he's not budging. I don't know what Jalen Duren is going
04:57to do. I wish we'd pull the offer.
05:00Or at least say, hey, you know what? If I'm talking of yesterday, today it's Monday. If he doesn't accept
05:08the offer by end of business at 5 o'clock, then we're going to drop it by $3 million per
05:14year.
05:15Same holds true for Tuesday. And we'll take it down another three per year. Same holds true for Wednesday until
05:22you get to Thursday when it's still more than the 9.8, but it's in essence $12 million or less
05:30every year.
05:31And again, I don't think the team would do it. Teams don't want to be seen as anti-player, so
05:35they're just going to stand on their best offer and wait for him to accept it.
05:40But I'm terrified because I think it's a mistake. I want him so desperately to be in his feelings that
05:46he takes the qualifying offer for one year and takes that albatross of a contract off the table from our
05:53Pistons.
05:55We did get a couple texts. This says the Pistons offering during 200 million. You should be ashamed. That's Tony.
06:02And another says they're wasting Kate Cunningham like the Lions have missed their window. Team is just sitting on its
06:06hands worried about Duren.
06:08He doesn't even want to be here. What a joke. I mean, yeah, at some point, you've got to ask
06:14yourself the question.
06:16And if the reality is, while Trajan Langdon is not all in his feelings and the Pistons aren't, and if
06:25the team isn't, it's only one individual, do you really want that to be a part of your locker room?
06:33Is it repairable? Do you believe that Kate Cunningham and Assar Thompson and Duncan Robinson, like once he gets in
06:41there, they can't bring him along?
06:44Well, they're all saying the right things because Trajan said like, I'm not going to hold any of the negotiations
06:50against him.
06:51We'll get him here and we'll embrace him. We want him to have a big year.
06:53Your bicker staff said, you know, he knows how I feel about him. And Kate had talked about, you know,
06:59he knew Duren wasn't going to go to some of the events and they had been in contact.
07:03So I don't know. They're saying all the right things.
07:05Yeah. And I love Trajan's perspective. First of all, I'm not going to let his feelings dictate what we do.
07:10But also I understand that their, their side is trying to get as much as they possibly can for their
07:17client.
07:17So I'm not going to hold the negotiations against him. Eventually he'll either be in for 40 a year or
07:25he'll be in for 9.8 for one year.
07:27Either way, he's going to be a part of this team.
07:31That's my worry.
07:33See, I think the Eamon Thompson contract's playing a role in this.
07:36He got 5 in 208. Duren's been offered 5 in 200.
07:39And I think the Duren camp is saying we simply should be paid more than him.
07:43I have a third team all NBA player here.
07:46Eamon Thompson's not that.
07:48And so I do think they're nickel and diming towards looking for 215.
07:53And I think they take that.
07:55And you got to sit here and ask like, okay, I don't want him to do it either.
07:59But what's $3 million more per year?
08:03Just for the comparison for Thompson, the other Thompson, Eamon plays for the Rockets.
08:08In the postseason, he scored 19 points per game.
08:11He's a really good defender, two steals and a block a game.
08:14And he was five assists, seven rebounds.
08:17And he can't shoot, but neither can Duren.
08:19Like, I would rather pay Ahmed Thompson than I would Jalen Duren.
08:25It's about not whether you are all NBA or not.
08:27You play center.
08:28It's a thinner group over there.
08:31It's who's going to be the better player for the next five years.
08:34If they're hung up on that comparison, I mean, I guess it makes sense why it still hasn't been signed.
08:39How does he compare it to his regular season, his postseason regular season?
08:43Did he take a dip at all or kind of hit you on the fly?
08:46No, you're good.
08:46I can pull this up.
08:47Scoring went up one point per game.
08:48Assists were mostly flat.
08:50Steals and blocks were both up.
08:51And rebounds about the same.
08:53I do think that's something that they're kind of sticking on right now.
08:56I think the Duren camp realizes we're not getting no max.
08:58Okay.
08:59That's we're not in that reality anymore.
09:01But this is the starting point for them from their perspective using that all NBA team.
09:08All right.
09:08So if but let's then compare postseason stats, because that's really where it matters is in last year's postseason.
09:17Jalen Duren was a just over 10 points per game.
09:21Yeah.
09:22And Eamon was 19.
09:25Yep.
09:25And you look at steals 0.6.
09:27Now, I'm not going to expect him to have a whole bunch of steals.
09:29Assists to two assists and then rebounds eight and a half.
09:34What was Eamon's rebound in the postseason?
09:37Yeah.
09:38Seven.
09:38So for for a wing player.
09:41Right.
09:41I mean, it just it the numbers don't back up for Jalen Duren in the regular season.
09:46Sure.
09:47But he disappeared in the postseason and it wasn't just one series.
09:50It was both series.
09:51And it's not like the year before he was great in the postseason.
09:57It was one series with the Knicks and he was at just shy of 12 points.
10:02Well, one of the most important things that didn't get asked yesterday to change in that should is,
10:06are we sitting in this position right now because of his postseason performance?
10:11Of course.
10:12Right.
10:12Was he ever asked about?
10:14I don't think he was.
10:14Jalen, has Trajan Langdon ever been asked about this?
10:17Is this the reason why we're not going all in on this guy?
10:22Right.
10:25We had a bunch of press conferences yesterday.
10:27Oh, yeah.
10:27I know Dan Campbell was at the podium.
10:29He'll join us at 802.
10:30Trajan Langdon spoke yesterday.
10:31Scott Harris spoke yesterday.
10:33We offered up some thoughts on that early in the show.
10:36We'll make room for all of it.
10:37It's 97-1.
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