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00:14Una producción de Suma TV, UAEH.
00:39Gracias por continuar en la señal de este tu canal 13.1 Suma TV.
00:44En Sumando Voces abrimos un espacio para conocer nuevas miradas y conversar con quienes desde su experiencia nos ayudan a
00:52comprender mejor nuestro mundo.
00:54Hoy nos acompaña el Dr. Filomeno Aguilar, profesor de la Universidad Ateneo de Manila, historiador y sociólogo, especializado en temas
01:02como migración, identidad, nación y sociedad.
01:06Recientemente fue reconocido como profesor honorario visitante por la Universidad Autónoma del Estado de Hidalgo en el marco de la
01:13Feria Universitaria del Libro.
01:15Quédate con nosotros porque de esta manera damos inicio.
01:18Dr. Filomeno Aguilar es profesor de tiempo completo del Departamento de Historia de la Universidad Ateneo de Manila.
01:27Estudió Ingeniería de Gestión, donde se graduó con honores.
01:31Posteriormente cursó una maestría en Economía en la Universidad de Gales y obtuvo el doctorado en Sociología en la Universidad
01:38de Cornell, en Estados Unidos.
01:41Durante sus estudios doctorales recibió el premio Lauriston Sharp del Programa de Estudios del Sureste Asiático, reconocimiento que distingue su
01:51compromiso con la investigación sobre esta región.
01:54Es un educador e investigador especializado en historia y estudios campesinos que ha dedicado buena parte de su vida a
02:02explorar las relaciones entre nación, clase social, migración e identidad con una mirada interdisciplinaria.
02:10Ha participado activamente en la construcción y el fortalecimiento de las ciencias sociales en Filipinas y Asia.
02:18Fue presidente de la Asociación Internacional de Historiadores de Asia entre 2005 y 2006 y del Consejo Filipino de Ciencias
02:27Sociales de 2006 a 2008.
02:30Recientemente fue reconocido como profesor honorario visitante por la UAEH en el marco de la 39ª edición de la Feria
02:39Universitaria del Libro.
02:41En Sumando Voces, le damos una cálida bienvenida al doctor Filomeno Aguilar.
02:48Pues muchas gracias y para conversar con esta entrevista me gustaría preguntarle desde sus palabras y para que nuestras audiencias
02:55también lo conozcan, ¿quién es el doctor Filomeno?
02:57Ok, so I am a professor of history at the Atena de Manila University.
03:04It is a small university in the Philippines, in Metro Manila, but it is quite a very active university.
03:12I teach in the Department of History, I teach in the Department of History, and at the same time, I
03:18am also the Assistant Vice President for Research, Creative Work, and Innovation.
03:24So, I am both an academic and a university administrator.
03:30It is not easy to do both, and sometimes I have to sacrifice my research for the administrative work, but
03:40we try our best to do both sides of my work.
03:45Así es, y una parte muy importante a lo largo de esta carrera, de esto que lo apasiona, aparte de
03:52la docencia, también es el poder investigar acerca sobre estos hechos históricos sobre Filipinas.
03:59¿Cómo es que surge este interés, este acercamiento por descubrir esta historia? ¿Por qué?
04:04When I started, I did not really know. I did not take a course in history. I took a course
04:13in management engineering, as you have seen from my bio.
04:17So, as an undergraduate student, I was doing business-related courses.
04:23But deep inside, I was always interested in history.
04:28So, when I began to do my post-graduate studies, I began to embark on historical studies to understand the
04:41Philippines,
04:43and to eventually, when I did my PhD at Cornell, I was in the Sociology Department,
04:50but my dissertation, or doctoral thesis, was historical sociology.
04:58And I began to be interested in finding out how to explain the sugar haciendas in the central island of
05:08the Philippines, in the Visayas.
05:10And I undertook historical research in Spain, in the U.S., in the United Kingdom, and in the Philippines.
05:19And that's how I began to become a historian, even if my degree was officially not in sociology.
05:44The biggest issue in the Philippines and other countries that have been colonized by imperial powers
05:53is the emergence of national consciousness, was the emergence of national consciousness, a sense of national identity.
06:00And that is what I began to investigate later on.
06:06But initially, I was concerned about economic relations,
06:09and how to understand the economic relations of the Philippines under Spain, under Spanish rule.
06:21And yet, our market was not Spain.
06:23The market for our products were really the United States, Australia, Britain, rather than Spain.
06:32So that is a kind of anomaly.
06:35And so I began to investigate that for my doctoral dissertation or thesis.
06:43But eventually, I began to study the question of nationalism, national identity.
06:49And because it is such a big issue, it has taken me many years to do studies on nationhood, nationalism.
07:01And in my own research, I connect that to global migrations.
07:19What does migrations mean to me?
07:23It is both a topic of research, as well as my own life.
07:29Because when I became a student in North America, I became a student migrant.
07:36And then I worked in Singapore and in Australia.
07:40Then I became a professional migrant.
07:44And so I myself was a migrant, which made me interested in studying international migration by Filipinos,
07:54because I was one of them.
07:55But then, in 2003, my wife and I decided that we would go back to the Philippines.
08:03And since then, I have stayed in the Philippines and watched migration from another perspective,
08:10from inside the country.
08:12Earlier, I was looking at it, looking at migration from outside the country.
08:17Now, I look at it from inside the Philippines.
08:21Of course, this relationship and also the possibility that she has had, not only to be in her country,
08:27but also to have these experiences, to be able to be in other contexts and at the same time,
08:33to be able to identify what she is experiencing between the history,
08:37between the events that have happened, and also how from this country,
08:43and how these events have been transformed, these events that have been changed throughout the years.
08:50Oh, that is a very complicated question.
08:56Because if you're asking me how it has influenced Philippine history,
09:02in the lecture I gave just now to postgraduate students,
09:07I actually argue that the process of coming to call ourselves Filipinos as a national identity
09:18occurred in the process of migration overseas in the late 19th century.
09:24And up to now, in my lecture, I discussed how this has changed in the course of the 20th century,
09:33and therefore, it continues, migration continues to impact our sense of nationhood
09:40and our national identity.
09:42So, I am interested in this subject as a young child, because my father,
10:12we had a small store in the province, where I grew up, in the Philippines,
10:17in the Philippines, but he also had a small rice field, and roughly just 30 hectares,
10:26and he would bring me to the farm, and I would observe how they worked in the farm.
10:32I remember, as a child, I would ride in a boat, a small boat, to cross the river,
10:40because our farm was across the river.
10:43And so, I would see them planting.
10:46I would see the workers, los acarceros, how they were actually harvesting and threshing the rice.
10:55And as a child, I was so interested.
10:59And at one point, my father obtained an irrigation machine,
11:05so he installed an irrigation in the rice field,
11:11and that was a big event for me as a child.
11:14So, I began to be interested in agriculture.
11:18But, I was no longer interested, simply, to study it from the perspective of the owner,
11:27because my father came from poverty.
11:31And so, we would talk about poverty.
11:34As a young boy, maybe 10, 12 years old,
11:37my father and I talked about poverty,
11:40which is probably very unusual.
11:43But, we thought about it.
11:46And so, I began to look into the lives of the rice workers,
11:52the rice farmers,
11:53and it brought me all the way to studying sugar haciendas in the 19th century,
12:00also looking into the condition of the workers,
12:03and at the same time,
12:05looking at the lifestyle of the sugar planter owners,
12:10and to see the interaction between these two different classes.
12:15So, I was concerned about class relations.
12:18And I began to argue that class relations cannot be understood apart from culture,
12:27because cultural relations have an impact in the way that classes perceive each other.
12:33In the way that classes perceive each other.
12:35Claro, without a doubt,
12:35muchas gracias por compartirnos esta historia.
12:37También, digamos,
12:39de cierta manera en México tenemos esa similitud al momento, pues,
12:42de la agricultura.
12:43En este caso, pues, es la producción de maíz,
12:46pero también nos remontamos a esos orígenes en nuestra historia
12:50y también cómo se ha ido transformando estos procesos de identidad.
12:54También, no únicamente en el proceso de estar cultivando alguna semilla y demás,
13:00pero también en esa identidad que nos genera a nosotros el pertenecer a este país,
13:04también como lo es en su caso, en su país de Filipinas.
13:07Sí, en el campo de agricultura,
13:11es el campo donde se tiene una comunidad.
13:17Pero eso es en el 20th century,
13:21porque en el siglo XX,
13:23en 1965, cuando comenzaron a inventar un nuevo tipo de arroz,
13:29el arroz crecía mucho más alto,
13:32pero con el Miracle Rice,
13:35las plantaciones de arroz crecieron más bajitas,
13:39pero comenzaron a producir granos más rápido,
13:44y el ciclo de cultivo era mucho más corto,
13:52de manera que el arroz estaba cultivado y la manera que la gente veía cómo se estaba cultivando y estaban
14:00viendo el arroz.
14:00Por ejemplo, cuando estás maturando,
14:04estás como una planta de arroz,
14:07porque cuando la planta de arroz matura,
14:10y entonces madura y que una vez madura,
14:12comienza a caer.
14:15Pero el arroz no crecía así, alto,
14:19así que ese dicho ya no era aplicable.
14:22Claro que sí, por supuesto.
14:24Platíquenos ahorita, por ejemplo,
14:25estamos en el marco de esta Feria Universitaria del Libro,
14:29y por supuesto que agradecemos su visita de esta relación importante
14:33que tienen también las universidades,
14:35del poder refrendar estos lazos de cooperación,
14:38de también intercambio de información.
14:41Platíquenos acerca de su visita,
14:42¿qué es lo que van a poder conocer en esta relación importante también con los estudiantes?
14:48Bueno, estoy muy agradecido por esta oportunidad
14:50de venir aquí a nuestra universidad,
14:53de venir a México por primera vez.
14:57Estoy maravillado.
14:59La gente es súper amable, muy agradable.
15:01La gente es súper amable, muy agradable.
15:05Y se apoyan mucho entre ustedes.
15:08Yo no veo eso mucho en mi universidad,
15:11cómo se saludan ustedes.
15:14Canta, estoy impresionado.
15:15I am really very impressed and overwhelmed
15:19by the hospitality that I am observing here in your university.
15:25And I wish that we will be able to imitate some of that.
15:31In terms of the talks,
15:34I will be talking today,
15:36I spoke to undergraduate students
15:39and told them the story about our national hero,
15:43José Rizal,
15:44and his novel.
15:46And I think they,
15:48I want to believe that they learned a lot
15:51from the presentation that we had this morning.
15:55And this afternoon,
15:56we talk about global migrations
15:59with graduate students.
16:01And it was also a very interesting time,
16:07very interesting session.
16:09And then tomorrow for the keynote lecture,
16:11I will revisit an old topic.
16:13And that whole topic is the Manila-Acapulco-Galium trade.
16:20And I will explain the implications of that
16:25in the past
16:27and the way it continues to resonate in the present day.
16:33Without a doubt,
16:34this exchange of knowledge,
16:36of relation,
16:37is well aboned to both parties,
16:39both universities.
16:41And, of course,
16:41the tener it here in this space,
16:43it also enhances the growth
16:45and also the exchange of information.
16:49Here in the space,
16:50we have a small section
16:52where I say a word
16:54and I would like to share it
16:57and share it with all our audience
16:58what represents for you that word.
17:01Those are focused
17:02in your professional activity
17:05and also what represents for you your country.
17:10Okay.
17:11The first word
17:12with which we are going to start
17:13with this dynamic is Filipinas.
17:17It's a complicated place.
17:21For me, the Philippines is a very complicated place,
17:24but it is my homeland.
17:27And it is something that I find interesting
17:32to study how it became
17:35what it is today
17:38because it need have
17:40because history would have gone in different ways
17:45and there would have been no
17:49and it will take an intellectual many, many years,
17:50more than a lifetime,
17:50It is a very interesting phenomenon to study.
17:56And right now, we have many complex issues.
18:01which is why the first word that entered my mind
18:04was to say,
18:05oh, my homeland is so complicated
18:08and very challenging
18:10and it will take an intellectual many, many years,
18:14more than a lifetime
18:16to be able to comprehend
18:18to be able to comprehend
18:18the complexity of that country,
18:21its culture,
18:22and its society.
18:32Education is very important.
18:36Many people from the lower class
18:38look at education as the means of what we call in sociology
18:43as upward social mobility
18:46because I told you,
18:48my father came from a poor family
18:52and he did not even study.
18:54At best, he finished only grade seven.
18:58And so, how is it that somebody with grade seven
19:01can produce a child like me
19:03with a PhD
19:05from Cornell University at that?
19:08So, education is a very real means
19:12of lifting people out of poverty.
19:16But more than that,
19:17education really opens the mind.
19:20The unfortunate thing is
19:22if our education today
19:24is simply meant to produce workers
19:27for the workplace,
19:29then we may be missing something fundamental
19:33about education
19:34because education should open minds
19:37and it will prepare us to work
19:40but at the same time,
19:42it should give us
19:43a wide perspective of knowledge
19:47to be able to grasp
19:48what is going on around the world
19:51and therefore to navigate
19:53through a very complex world
19:56that we are in,
19:57especially now.
20:00Es correcto.
20:02La siguiente palabra es México.
20:05Es un hermano de Filipinas.
20:07Es realmente un hermano.
20:09So, it is really a brother of the Philippines.
20:13We have not been able
20:15to really understand each other deeply
20:19but now I believe
20:21it's the greater opportunity
20:23for Filipinos and Mexicans
20:25to learn, to understand
20:28the deep historical ties
20:30that we share
20:31and Mexico is such a fascinating place
20:35but I believe that Mexico's history
20:38cannot be fully understood
20:41apart from the Philippines
20:42because the history of the Philippines
20:44can't be understood
20:46apart from Mexico
20:48because the Philippines
20:51was governed by Spain
20:54through the vice royalty of Nueva España
20:57for 250 years.
21:01So, in that long period
21:03there have been a lot of
21:06interchange
21:06between Mexico
21:08and the Philippines
21:09we should revisit
21:11those exchanges
21:13we should revisit
21:14those relations
21:15and build on them
21:17remember them
21:18celebrate them
21:20and build on them
21:21for the future.
21:24Es correcto.
21:26La siguiente palabra es
21:26Universidad Autónoma
21:28del Estado de Hidalgo.
21:32Muchas gracias.
21:33This is a wonderful university
21:36and I have been very impressed
21:39with the range
21:40and the depth
21:41of courses
21:42that you offer
21:43I am so impressed
21:45with how
21:46you have so many
21:47different faculties
21:49I am very impressed
21:51visited in the Real
21:53del Monte
21:54del Mont
21:55is that correct?
21:57Del campus
21:58dedicated to art
22:00and I thought
22:01oh, my university
22:03does not have this
22:04I am also glad
22:06that you are autonomous
22:08and therefore
22:09you are able
22:11to fend off
22:12some of the people
22:14especially politicians
22:16who would like to meddle
22:18in your institution
22:19so it's great
22:21that it is autonomous
22:23and it is a
22:25strong center
22:26of education
22:27for training
22:28the youth
22:29of Hidalgo
22:31and Mexico
22:31and because of that
22:33I believe
22:34that your university
22:35has a lot
22:36to contribute
22:38to the strengthening
22:39of Mexico
22:40and to the future
22:41of Mexico.
22:44Así es,
22:45sin duda,
22:45pues muchas gracias
22:47por haber estado
22:47con nosotros
22:48aquí en este espacio
22:49ya estamos llegando
22:50casi al final
22:51de nuestra entrevista
22:52y finalmente
22:52un mensaje
22:53que nos pudiera dedicar
22:54para todas nuestras audiencias
22:55y para quienes
22:56el día de hoy
22:57lo están viendo
22:57a través de televisión.
22:58my last message
23:00I think
23:00will go back
23:02to what I said
23:04earlier
23:04about
23:05many things
23:06that I have learned
23:07from your university
23:09how we should develop
23:10the linkage
23:12and make it real.
23:14I was impressed
23:15that after
23:16I gave a talk
23:17to the graduate students
23:19I had no opportunity
23:21to speak
23:22with faculty members
23:24because we have
23:25no time
23:27but we were
23:28a professor
23:28came to me
23:29with a proposal
23:31in order to do
23:32a collaborative
23:33research
23:33so
23:35that was very impressive
23:37and so
23:39I think
23:40we should carry on
23:42and put flesh
23:43to the
23:44memorandum
23:46of understanding
23:47between our two universities
23:48we should give it
23:50flesh and life
23:51so that we
23:53begin to learn
23:54more about each other
23:55and to undertake
23:56collaborative
23:57research
23:58and other activities
24:00how I wish
24:01that your students
24:03will be able
24:04to visit my university
24:05and our students
24:07will be able
24:08to visit your university.
24:10Así que muchas gracias
24:11por esta gran oportunidad
24:13para conocer su universidad.
24:14Muchísimas gracias.
24:18nos quedamos
24:19en este espacio.
24:20Yo quiero agradecer
24:21a todos los que han estado
24:22con nosotros
24:22a través de este
24:23su canal
24:24El 13.1.
24:25Yo me despido
24:26por esta ocasión
24:26nos saludamos
24:27en una próxima emisión.
24:29Hasta la próxima.
24:48¡Gracias!
24:58¡Gracias!
24:59¡Gracias!
24:59¡Gracias!
25:00¡Gracias!
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