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Willard and Dibs react to what Steph Curry told Anthony Slater about his potential contract extension with the Warriors. Why the delay at this point?
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00:00So, very controversial quote from Steph Curry today.
00:05And so, I get it.
00:07I understand why this is unsettling for Warriors fans.
00:10He said, quote, no drama, no talking points.
00:17This team should be competitive and go win.
00:21Information and patience is key.
00:24Right.
00:25Now, that's one pissed off.
00:26Are you being, like, tongue-in-cheek?
00:27That is a pissed off hombre, is it not?
00:30Yeah, he sounds pretty angry.
00:31He's added up to here with the Warriors and all of their Dunleavy-ness.
00:34You know who's pissed off right now probably for real?
00:38Meow.
00:39Kitty Cat, Carl Anthony Towns, because they've got themselves a little bit of a contract extension standoff.
00:45Now, that's real.
00:47Well, Carl's in a tough spot because the other really top player on that team has gotten national attention for
00:54taking less and being awesome and winning a championship.
00:58And so, now, Cat probably wants what, in, I would think, in a normal world, he would deserve.
01:05You don't usually see NBA teams mess around with their max contract guys.
01:11But they're probably like, so, do what your teammate did.
01:17And Cat might be like, no.
01:20Be the little cat.
01:21Big cat.
01:22It's like a cat.
01:22Big cat.
01:23So, you say there's no controversy, yet I just went to our beloved, and I say our because you're now
01:30gravy training on my endorsement with Cal Sheet.
01:33Trade on anything, including Steph Curry's next team.
01:37D-I-B-S.
01:38It's dibs.
01:39There is a Cal Sheet for Steph Curry's next team.
01:42Well, don't bet on it.
01:43Trade on anything.
01:44Yeah, you can, I mean, you can, go ahead.
01:46What do you think the Warriors are at?
01:48First place.
01:49I think you're giving me a percentage.
01:52I would bet next team.
01:55Steph Curry's next team.
01:57Well, wait a minute.
01:58Could be this team, the team that he's on.
02:00How do we define what next team is if he never leaves this team?
02:04Well, there are market rules, and it would be.
02:05Is it a timestamp?
02:07It's, yeah, timestamped by any team that he plays for as of, you know, next year.
02:15It's got to be 93%.
02:1899%.
02:19Yeah.
02:19There's your controversy.
02:20And the other 29 teams are all tied at less than one.
02:24Sure.
02:24So if it's not happening, I know I'm feeding into your hole, like tongue in cheek.
02:30This thing's hot.
02:31Well, even the market, and there's about 6 million in this market.
02:35And I guess if you want to put a million in to win a million and $1, you could do
02:38that.
02:40Yes, you can.
02:41Or you could take a flyer on, I don't know, Charlotte.
02:45He's from there.
02:46Oh my God.
02:48He might be a Raptors.
02:49Go play with Kawhi.
02:50Um, here's what I actually want to say about this, because that's not enough for us to
02:57simply say, hey, Steph's not going anywhere.
03:01The article that dropped by Anthony Slater today of ESPN dives into both where Steph is at and where the
03:10team is at.
03:11And for me, this is really important.
03:14And I just want to say, I'm thrilled to me, there is only one answer.
03:20There is a right answer here.
03:23And every day that goes by where no contract is signed is a day where we're closer to the right
03:32answer.
03:32The answer is to wait.
03:36There is no way to affix value to Steph Curry right now.
03:42It can't be done.
03:44It can't be done.
03:45Of course you can respond and say, well, he's worth the max.
03:49He's Steph.
03:50Of course he is.
03:51Actually, if you want to play it that way, he should be worth more than the max.
03:55He is of course worth more than the max to this organization, but that's not what's actually relevant here.
04:02The questions of how much longer is Steph going to play?
04:06Is his knee healthy?
04:09Who else is available?
04:12And who do you, the Warriors, want to keep after this year?
04:18Who's currently on the roster?
04:20These are all questions that right now have absolutely no answer.
04:25And one thing I have always felt Steph Curry is, is genuine.
04:29This is a genuine, aware person.
04:33And a genuine, aware person in this situation looks at the landscape and goes, there's no way to sign this
04:41contract right now.
04:42Of course the Warriors will do whatever I want them to do.
04:45So he could sign the max.
04:47That would be stupid.
04:48It would be stupid even for him.
04:50Because what Steph wants is he wants good teammates.
04:54He wants to compete.
04:56He's not out here demanding a championship.
04:58He's not dumb.
04:59But he wants the Warriors to be aggressive and see what they can do.
05:03And so do the Warriors.
05:04I see their goals as exactly the same.
05:07I don't see either side as having any idea what is around the corner.
05:12Remember, this is perfect.
05:15And for anybody out there attempting to turn this into a controversy, you're an ambulance chaser.
05:23There's nothing here.
05:25Steph's not forcing their hand.
05:27The Warriors aren't saying, we're not sure about your knee.
05:31Slates has even said what this is.
05:33They put a menu in front of him and said, what do you want to do?
05:35And Steph, for the millionth time in a row, is making the correct selection, which is right now I'd like
05:41to do nothing.
05:42It is the only thing for them to do.
05:45And so I am so glad that it sounds like they're doing it.
05:51It's the only play right now, as I see it.
05:55Right.
05:55It's the smart play.
05:56It's obviously not the only play.
05:58If Steph Curry really wants to play meaningful basketball and contend one last time for something, I'm not sure even
06:06if he takes 10 million and everybody gets healthy and they go out and add two more players.
06:12I still don't know if you would be good enough to win the championship, but it would give you a
06:16better chance than if he took the max right now.
06:19And he took the 134 million and just cha-ching.
06:23I'm going to bank that.
06:24I'll play two more years and bounce and we'll have about 40 million in cap room and we'll probably have
06:29to let Jimmy go and Draymond would have to play for half.
06:33And who knows what else would actually go on around me.
06:36And I don't know if it'd be a full Kobe situation where they were so dreadfully bad and he was
06:42off the Achilles injury, which at the time was really kind of a career ender.
06:46Less so now, I think for players, but I don't think Steph would ever get into that mode and not
06:52that Kobe did anything wrong.
06:53He didn't know, but he took a big contract.
06:56They were deteriorating anyway.
06:58His game was not what it once was.
07:01And that's just the way that ended.
07:02The Lakers wanted to show the league that they take care of their people.
07:05Right.
07:05And the Warriors are doing the same.
07:07Absolutely.
07:07And they always have.
07:08They like, I mean, some would say to their detriment, but that is a message that they want to send.
07:15To the league.
07:17And believe me, I think fans watch this a certain way.
07:21And then I think that the league watches it a completely different way.
07:24And we hear it from people who are in the league all the time.
07:28You don't mess with Steph Curry.
07:32Like, under any circumstances.
07:35And the Warriors aren't.
07:36But these are the quotes we're getting right now.
07:40You ready for more?
07:42Boy, this will really tick you off.
07:44You want your blood pressure to go up?
07:46Okay.
07:47Steph said, quote, it's going to happen at the right time once I have all the information I need to
07:56make the decision that is right.
07:57The team has been great having that conversation back and forth.
08:02If I don't sign, it won't affect me in terms of my play or carrying that weight.
08:07But I'll make the decision when I'm ready.
08:14I can't believe that they're doing him like that.
08:17And you're talking about, like, them jacking Steph around?
08:21If they didn't do that to Draymond, when Draymond, okay, he's opting out.
08:26Ooh, he's opting out.
08:28Well, meanwhile, behind the scenes, it was, yeah, I'm going to opt out to give you guys the optionality to
08:34go out there and get something done, Grandy.
08:36There's some blood boiling.
08:37And when nothing happened, he got his contract back.
08:40Of course.
08:41And so they're going to do that solid for Draymond, but they're going to jack Steph around?
08:45That makes no sense to me.
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08:57I got more.
08:59Quote, this team should have flexibility to make necessary moves if things happen.
09:06Those are always just the considerations.
09:08For me, information and patience is key.
09:12It's just a very unique situation all the way around, based on where we've been the last four years, where
09:18I'm at in my career, what our team looks like this year, and the absolute desperation to win, trying to
09:27balance all that.
09:28End quote.
09:33This dude's the best.
09:35He's just, he's flat out the best.
09:40He understands it.
09:41He gets it.
09:42He does not.
09:45And I think you can hear it with every word he says right here.
09:48He doesn't care what he plays for.
09:52He will take every dollar he can that doesn't prevent his larger goal.
09:58Right.
09:59But he says over and over in this whole thing, quote, I want to be on a competitive team.
10:07I want to have an opportunity to have some flexibility because we haven't had that in years past.
10:13Certainly not the recent past.
10:16End quote.
10:17That is Steph's goal.
10:19I have zero hesitation that if a scenario arises next year, and I don't even know what the hell it
10:25would be, but it's like we're going to put this roster together.
10:28This guy's available.
10:30That trade's available.
10:31We're going to take on this contract.
10:33Steph, we need you to take 15 mil.
10:38Okay.
10:39If Steph's like that team can do really well, Steph will take 15.
10:44Right.
10:44Or 11 or 22.
10:46So if they offer him 15, he'll say, okay, I mean, I was kind of hoping for the max.
10:50So with the 48 that I'm not going to take, go ahead and get to the whiteboard and tell me
10:55what your plans are.
10:56Mike?
10:56Yep.
10:56What are you going to do with my 48?
10:58Because, you know, I deserve the max.
11:00I fill the building, and I'm just playing along to just have some fun with the bit.
11:04Keep going.
11:04Let's go.
11:04Because I don't do a Steph Curry.
11:05I could never be that humble.
11:07I could never be that great.
11:09So you got to play the caricature, which is, all right, Mikey D, what are you doing with the 48?
11:15And if he goes up there and says, well, you can get two guys for 20 and another guy for
11:19eight,
11:19or we're going to go out and get this big fish, and he'll have a plan.
11:22And if Steph is like, I like that.
11:24I believe in it.
11:25I'll play for 15.
11:27Yeah.
11:27That's where Draymond said, I'll opt out and go ahead and, you know, bring in LeBron for the mid-level
11:33and then go get somebody else, too, and then I'll play for whatever it would have been.
11:37You tack on an extra year, and I agree to that, but it didn't happen, so he got his money.
11:41I'm honestly thrilled.
11:43I didn't know.
11:43I wasn't sure.
11:44This is what you've wanted.
11:45I've been saying it for months.
11:47The Golden State Warriors and Steph Curry, back in July and early August, the word that they had gotten out
11:56to reporters
11:56was both sides are interested, mutual interest in an extension.
12:02And what I think that meant to a lot of us was when August 29th gets here,
12:07I was sort of prepared for the breaking news sounder to hit, and the Warriors have signed Steph Curry to
12:13a two-year
12:13max contract extension of like $130-some-odd million.
12:18I certainly thought that was possible, and nobody would blame Steph for that.
12:22Shasky would.
12:23But that's mostly, there's a few of you out there, and that's fine.
12:26I get where you're coming from.
12:28But it was odd for this article to come out today, and I did hear a lot of people start
12:35to say,
12:36you know, the biggest question here, Steph, is you.
12:39And I'm thinking to myself, I think every word you're hearing him say is acknowledging that.
12:45He knows all of the questions.
12:48His knee is a question.
12:49Jimmy Butler's knee is a question.
12:52How much cap space will they have?
12:54Who else is available?
12:56Did they re-sign pods?
12:58There's all of these questions out there.
13:00Answers to none of them yet.
13:02You can't.
13:03And so what does Steph do?
13:05He says, why don't we wait until we have those answers?
13:08Fantastic.
13:09Bravo.
13:10Hello.
13:11You did it again, goat.
13:13You did it again.
13:14You got the right answer for the infinitieth time in a row.
13:19Because the dude has never had the wrong answer.
13:23And so he did it again.
13:25And yes, of course the Warriors should wait.
13:29If he took less, how would we have, how much less?
13:34What's the, do you know what I mean?
13:35Does 40 make you feel good?
13:36Does 30?
13:38Does 20?
13:38Well, I think it comes down to, you know, show me what you're working with.
13:42What can you do with what I don't take?
13:44And that is unknowable at this point.
13:47And also if you give him, I don't, let's say you give him 45, you give him two for 100,
13:5345 and 55.
13:54And well, runner's knee, it becomes a persistent thing.
13:57And he plays 37 games.
13:59And man, I don't even know if I can make it 37 games the following year.
14:03So now the organization is screwed.
14:05Or he takes 20 and he goes out and he balls.
14:09And Jimmy Butler never quite recovers.
14:12And Draymond, oh boy, the end is nigh.
14:15And Chris Stapp's in the pots.
14:17And so Steph is left holding the bag.
14:19I took 20 and all of my Thundercats, shout out Guru, hope the MRI went well.
14:24No doubt.
14:25All the other Thundercats are breaking down and I'm playing for 20 and Pod's got 22.
14:30Like, what are we even doing?
14:31I mean, shout out to 510.
14:33Thank you for listening.
14:34But this makes me laugh.
14:36Y'all so silly.
14:38Steph's not playing for 15.
14:39Same text we got 8 million times about LeBron.
14:43He's playing for four.
14:45How much?
14:46Four.
14:47How much?
14:48Four.
14:50I mean, yes, he will.
14:53Like, he probably won't have to.
14:56Because if he plays for 15, it means the Warriors got like two other stars.
15:01But if you're sitting here telling me that your read on Steph Curry, if the Warriors, I have no idea
15:08what's around the corner.
15:09But let's say the league market shifts and there are, you know, Jokic's or whatever.
15:18There's these guys are available.
15:20Trey Murphy.
15:21These things happen.
15:23And the Warriors are like, Steph, we can get them here.
15:26We can get them here.
15:27But now that you're 39, you're about to turn 40 years old.
15:32This is after this season.
15:34Like, now that you're 39, we can get these guys here.
15:38So in order to do it, here's kind of what it would take.
15:44Do you all honestly believe that Steph Curry would respond to that and say, no, I don't want the teammate.
15:51I want the money.
15:53I don't think there's any way in hell he would take the money over the teammate.
15:56I think he would take the teammate 18 times in a row.
16:01Why would he take money?
16:03He's got bajillions.
16:07The guy keeps telling you he wants to compete.
16:09Why would he pick money over a teammate?
16:11I just don't see him as that way.
16:14At this juncture, I don't see it that way either.
16:16Because as I mentioned earlier, it might have been the crossover where he's number three all time in accumulated salary
16:23in the association behind only LeBron and Kevin Durant.
16:27And this year when he's making his 62 or 63, he'll creep closer to KD, who's only making 40.
16:32And LeBron's only making four, but he will keep the lead despite only playing for four.
16:37He's going to remain in the number one spot, even though, you know, Steph is far enough behind, etc.
16:42Uh, Steph, according to the internet has a net worth of about a quarter billion, which it's a little weird
16:49to me.
16:49You made four 60, I guess taxes are real to where, I mean, keep buying Atherton houses.
16:55I have it.
16:55No, I, who knows what it's worth.
16:57And I've made this point over and over again.
16:59And I think people need to hear it.
17:00So if you're, you know, talking to your kids or if you're, you know, on your phone or whatever, realize
17:06this, he just signed a contract with a shoe company and apparel company for 400 million, 10 years.
17:12400 mil.
17:14So he's making 63 on the court.
17:16He's making 40 off the court.
17:18In those two things alone, he's making 103 million.
17:20At what point did you get the impression from Steph Curry that his goals over the final two or three
17:25years of his career is money?
17:27Well, like how on earth are you listening to anything that he's ever said or looking at anything he's ever
17:33done?
17:34If it was money, he would have had a max extension sign on August 30th.
17:38If they really did offer the three menu options, and I believe they did, then it's like when you go
17:44out to dinner with your kid and they give your kid the menu at the nice restaurant and your kid's
17:48like, think about a steak, dad.
17:50No, you're not, son.
17:52No, you're not.
17:53My mom would pull a PB&J out of her purse.
17:57Dinner.
17:58We didn't go out to dinner, so.
18:00Oh, man.
18:01For good reason.
18:02Okay.
18:03Hey, TK's about to come on and royalty is on the line.
18:06I don't think he wants to talk about Steph, but let's get him in here.
18:09Philmo Mike is on the line.
18:11Philmo, what are you doing, man?
18:15Hey, you know what?
18:16Shout out to Greg O'Seill.
18:18I knew Greg O'Seill had some soul in him.
18:20If you're listening to the Doobie Brothers in Chicago, you've got some soul in you.
18:24I swear to God, if you know, you know.
18:27If you've seen, if you've heard, you heard.
18:30So, listen, though.
18:31Shout out to Greg O'Seill because that's why I like my Niners, right?
18:35You feel me?
18:36Because this is America.
18:37You know what I'm saying?
18:38We landed a free.
18:39Everybody here.
18:40We got landed immigrants.
18:42White boys matter, man.
18:43Swear to God.
18:44You got George Kittle out there.
18:46You got CMC.
18:47You got Brock Purdy.
18:48You got a huge chick.
18:50You know, I'm a proud black brother.
18:51I'm a Black Panther out this thing.
18:54But I'm just recognizing the fact that, man, Greg O'Seill be going crazy.
18:58What the dude say?
18:59Them white boys.
18:59Them white boys.
19:00They cool.
19:01Y'all be going crazy.
19:02Shout out to Steining.
19:04You feel me?
19:04Spadoni be doing his thing.
19:08And Shasky.
19:09Man, for real, though, man, I really appreciate that Greg O'Seill because I swear to God I
19:14was just doing a deep dive last night.
19:16My dad was like, you got to listen to, you like Michael McDonald?
19:19You need to listen to Chicago.
19:21I went down Chicago.
19:22I went down the other two.
19:26Not the Doobie Brothers, but Hall and Oak.
19:28Oh, yeah.
19:29Oh, come on, man.
19:30Come on, man.
19:31White boys matter about this thing.
19:33I ain't trying to get political because you know it's black power.
19:36But I'm just saying.
19:37Come on, Greg.
19:38I love you.
19:39That puts something in my soul.
19:40I just want to say this.
19:42Kyle Shanahan, I don't know if that thing affected him, but he just seemed like he's
19:48on a whole nother level as far as his focus and whatever.
19:52He on a whole nother level.
19:53Y'all have a great show.
19:54Phil Mo, my man, Kyle Shanahan, another white dude.
20:00So I'm told.
20:01You know what I mean?
20:02Yeah.
20:02I know he wears Yeezys, but Kyle Shanahan.
20:06Maybe the concussion was like a Rain Man effect and elevated him to a whole nother level
20:11of mentality.
20:12I would say that's an elevation sensation, but that's more than a buck because that's
20:17the original.
20:18That's the OG.
20:19That's got to be worth two.
20:20That's the OG.