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Willard and Dibs react to 49ers' injury updates from Kyle Shanahan after yesterday's win over the Raiders.
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00:00We're going to go to the phones in a second, but what we're going to do now is go live
00:03to Mark Grandy
00:03after the Kyle Shanahan conference call with this injury update.
00:08Drumroll, please. Prayers up. Mark, how are we doing?
00:11The conference call is still going on right now, but I just jumped out.
00:14I wanted to get the injury stuff on the air for you guys.
00:17First of all, Renardo Green, who left with a back issue, he is day-to-day for Renardo Green.
00:23Diamador Lenore left with a foot. He is also day-to-day.
00:27That's what I wanted to hear.
00:28Of course, the bad injury is Grayson Halton. Shanahan confirmed a fractured, a dislocated ankle.
00:33He's going on IR. He's having surgery soon.
00:36He didn't say that it's season-ending IR.
00:39He was, though, asked if they go deep into playoffs.
00:42Could Grayson Halton maybe come back?
00:44He said he didn't ask that, but he'd be surprised.
00:46He later said, quote, I doubt it.
00:48For some of the other guys that didn't even play yesterday, CJ West and Debo Samuel,
00:53Shanahan said he's hoping to get both of them back at practice on Wednesday.
00:57Mike Evans, though, not expected to be ready by Wednesday.
01:00He said they'll check on him later on in the week.
01:03Yeah.
01:03Okay.
01:04That, by the way, that's as good as today could have gone, in my opinion.
01:12Grayson Halton, that's no surprise.
01:13Grayson Halton is out for the year.
01:15Any time you see both teams, like, huddling around, taking a knee.
01:19And the guy was just sobbing on the cart.
01:22I hated every second of that.
01:24Yeah.
01:24I don't know, 49er fans, how many of you have sort of gotten a chance to get a sense of
01:30who
01:31Grayson Halton is?
01:32This guy is just a big old ball of fun energy in the locker room.
01:40Trent Williams loves that guy.
01:42You could see that he was the one over there holding his hand.
01:45They love him.
01:46And he has been a tremendous rookie.
01:49What a great fourth-round draft pick that has been.
01:52So there's the football side of it, and then there's the personal side of it.
01:55That was very hard to watch as he just, when those shoulders are just bouncing, he's just
02:02sobbing on the cart as they leave.
02:04I'm like, my God.
02:05And they put him in the air cast, and you're looking at that, and you're thinking, man,
02:10you know it's not good, and he's getting carted off, and he's still, the amount of pain that
02:14he's in, but also the sadness of knowing that your season is basically over.
02:18I think that's what it's about.
02:19Yeah.
02:19I don't think he was crying in physical pain.
02:22I took it to be emotional pain.
02:25It's got to be hard knowing that you're playing well and being a part of a special season,
02:29and now you don't get to do that anymore.
02:30Right.
02:30Just in an instant, it's just taken away from you.
02:33So that's brutal, but the fact that Debo Samuel and C.J. West, who plays a similar position
02:40to Grayson Halton, the fact that they are tracking to play next week is no surprise, and that's
02:45good.
02:46I was hopeful that both of the cornerbacks would be listed as day-to-day.
02:50I think that means that they have a chance to play next week, which is also good.
02:55This is no joke of a passing attack that's going to be coming at them.
03:00And the Mike Evans thing is no surprise either.
03:02So that's why I take everything that we just heard to be good news.
03:05Yeah, mostly expected, but the fact that the two corners are day-to-day is great news.
03:09And just glancing ahead as we still bask, we Garrett Wallow in a victory Monday.
03:16The over-under for the Dallas game is 55-and-a-half.
03:19Yep.
03:20Is this a college game?
03:21Well, the spread is telling you that Vegas believes in Dallas' offense against the Niner defense.
03:27Right.
03:28That's what the spread is telling you, and then the over-under does as well.
03:31I'm seeing it four-and-a-half.
03:33The Niners started at three-and-a-half, but yeah, I think a lot of people, just on the
03:37surface, they're like, the Niners are more than three points better than Dallas.
03:41What are you doing?
03:42But I think that's what it is.
03:43It's kind of ripe for a backdoor cover type of a situation.
03:47They think the Niners can get to 31, but they might think that the Dallas Cowboys can
03:51get to 28.
03:52That's kind of what they're saying.
03:53Or even 35-31 is what the line would tell you.
03:56Yeah.
03:56So anyway, got all week to talk about that one.
04:00Let's hear from you reacting to all we know and another victory Monday.
04:04Joe in San Jose is next.
04:06Hi, Joe.
04:06Thank you for calling Willie and Dibby.
04:09Hey, fellas.
04:12So, Willard, you were talking during the crossover about the playoffs a little bit and about your
04:18thoughts on Minnesota, and I couldn't agree with you more, my friend.
04:23I hope to God they don't make the playoffs, and if they do, I hope to God we end up
04:30the
04:30number one, because historically, we do not play well in Minnesota.
04:35I don't believe we have won there in 35-plus years.
04:40So, yeah, no, I don't want to go to the Horn at all.
04:46Agree with you.
04:47Yeah, agree with you.
04:49That's number one.
04:50As far as Ayuk is concerned, I would love to see them deal him and end up getting maybe some
04:59some cornerback, maybe Trayvon Diggs would be wonderful, I think, if they could pull
05:05that off, figuring out a way to turn him into maybe either Mike Hilton or Adoree Jackson.
05:12One of those three names, I think, would be a great addition to the cornerback roster.
05:17I also don't want to overlook the possible wonderful addition that Jonathan Taylor, I
05:24believe is his name, the running back from the Colts, if they could somehow figure out a
05:29way to get him in a nine-in uniform and shore up our running back thing, because honestly,
05:33I love Christian McCaffrey.
05:36I will ride with that man to the end of the earth, but I do not trust his legs, and
05:41I'm
05:42worried that we're going to lose him at some point, and having another running back option,
05:47because we all know how much Shynahan likes to run the ball, I think having the three,
05:53Kalon Taylor, and McCaffrey would extend McCaffrey that much further into the playoffs, and that's
06:02what I'd like to see.
06:03Joe, I totally get it.
06:05Yeah, thanks for the call.
06:06Here's what I'd say.
06:07So Kalon Black was their leading rusher yesterday and averaged 6.4 yards per carry.
06:12So if you're worried about Christian McCaffrey's legs, there's your answer.
06:15His name is Kalon Black.
06:18I get the fun aspect of it and why this goes through people's minds, but Shasky and I don't
06:25run into one another a whole lot because he's in the morning, but we do text some, and if
06:31I do see that guy in the street, I'm going to talk to him about this Jonathan Taylor thing.
06:35Jonathan Taylor is not a target for the San Francisco 49ers.
06:38You don't bring in another super duper every down carry alpha running back at $20 million
06:47a year when you already have one of those.
06:49It is just a poor management of assets.
06:52You're talking about major, major draft capital to get Jonathan Taylor, and so far this year
06:58that is not a position of need.
07:00I have no problem with major draft capital, but it's got to be a position of need, not a
07:06position of fear, which is what I kind of hear sometimes when people talk about acquiring
07:11people like that.
07:13Christian McCaffrey and Kalon Black are both playing great.
07:15Those are your running backs, and that's, I'm pretty sure, what the Niners are going
07:19to be doing this year.
07:20Right, and I don't think that if they're looking to expel draft assets that running back is
07:26even in the top five of positional needs.
07:28It's defensive lineman interior.
07:31It's defensive end, edge rusher.
07:34It's cornerback.
07:34It's receiver, and then you can go from there and figure out what else you might want.
07:38The other thing he was talking about, though, with Minnesota, you know, look, I don't want
07:43the 49ers to go to Minnesota either, and I'm not trying to take a shot at Minnesota.
07:49They might be the best defense in football.
07:51I just find them to be one-dimensional.
07:53I'm not terribly scared of teams that are rumored to be acquiring quarterbacks at the trade
07:58deadline.
07:58They don't have a quarterback, so I'm not terribly scared of them.
08:02I don't think that they can score a whole lot of points.
08:05I also don't think they've played a really good team this year.
08:09Like, they got to 6-0 by rallying to beat Green Bay week one when Green Bay was a joke.
08:18They then won in Chicago when Caleb Williams got hurt and it was raining sideways, and then
08:24went 4-0 against the Bucs, Dolphins, Saints, and Colts.
08:28And then last week, they had a tough test and they lost.
08:32The schedule for Minnesota now goes Buffalo at Lambeau, Niners in Mexico, and then you
08:38can sprinkle in some other things the rest of the way, including Detroit and Chicago and
08:44a trip to New England still on their schedule.
08:48I might be wrong.
08:50They might go to the playoffs, but I think that's the fourth best team in that division,
08:53and I think they're going to finish in fourth place.
08:54Yeah, I think they will go to the playoffs, and I don't think that they're the fourth
08:58best team in the division, and I think their defense is so good that it can absolutely
09:02hide some of the deficiencies.
09:04Who do you think is worse than them in the NFC North?
09:07Probably Detroit.
09:08Okay.
09:08And I think Detroit is a team it'll be interesting to see, and you know, so far, I think the
09:13Bears
09:14are 0-2 in the division, so they've got work to do as far as what they, you know, want
09:18to do tiebreaker-wise, but you might have all four of those teams with 11 wins.
09:23I do think that all four have a great chance to make the playoffs.
09:27For me, the wild card comes down to three teams in the North and Seattle, and the Rams
09:32with their injuries, even though Miles Garrett, oh my God, welcome back to the field.
09:37Three sacks and a force fumble.
09:39He was just a monster.
09:40But the news today that Puka Nakui is going on IR and has basically three injuries, PCL,
09:46MCL, and turf toe, and is in a contract year, or at least an extension-eligible situation.
09:56Devontae Adams out long-term.
09:57Who's going to catch the ball for the Rams?
09:59I have no idea.
10:00We'll see, actually, in the next 24 hours if they believe in themselves.
10:03You want to talk about somebody who should be trading for a wide receiver?
10:06I give you the Los Angeles Rams.
10:08Josh Towns or Garrett Wilson.
10:09I mean, somebody.
10:11Especially because they're already, like, F them picks.
10:13You know, that's always been their thing.
10:15And to the caller's point, the last time the Niners went to Minnesota and won, 1992.
10:21Good Lord, is that real?
10:22I don't believe that our beloved Mark Grandy pasta certainly wasn't here.
10:271992.
10:28There was no Mark Grandy.
10:30How old do you think I am?
10:30I know you're not that old.
10:32You know who led the Niners that day?
10:34Amp Lee.
10:37Facts.
10:38Amp Lee with two touchdowns on the ground.
10:41You could be making up that name.
10:42I've never heard that before.
10:43Amp Lee is the guy who held the name, the shortest name record before Bo Nix was born.
10:48Yeah.
10:49Amp Lee.
10:50Bo Nix has got five letters and Amp Lee had six.
10:53Amp Lee with a touchdown catch and a touchdown run.
10:56The Niners beat Minnesota 20-17.
10:58You couldn't stop Amp Lee.
11:01You weren't even hoping to contain him.
11:02Amp Lee caught the final touchdown pass in Joe Montana's 49er career.
11:07Oh, my God.
11:08All kinds of footnotes.
11:09Don't act like you know who Amp Lee is now.
11:11Or who Joe Montana is.
11:13Because you have the internet pasta.
11:15Thank you, Wikipedia.
11:17Rich Cannon, nine for 21 for the Vikings that day.
11:20Rich Cannon, a Viking?
11:22I made.
11:22I forgot about that.
11:24Anyway, it's been since 1992.
11:26Eight straight losses.
11:27You don't want to go to.
11:30I do just because you'll do that a lot and it's fun, but no.
11:35Listen, let me say this.
11:37I don't want the Niners to go anywhere in January.
11:41And I want them to go to L.A. in February.
11:43If this goes right, then I'll leave in California.
11:47Okay?
11:48Period.
11:49So, Minnesota, Lambeau, Chicago, none of these are pleasant in January.
11:56Minnesota would be the driest, but none of these are good places to go play a playoff game.
12:02So, no thank you.
12:04You could end your year with home against L.A., to L.A. to face the Chargers, to Kansas City.
12:10Ooh, that's a long, long trip.
12:12Then you get Philly here, to Arizona, and then you could be home and home and then go to L
12:18.A. for the ball.
12:19And leave the time zone once.
12:20Right.
12:20After, basically, after Thanksgiving.
12:23Pretty much.
12:24Yep.
12:25Yep.
12:26Okay, I'm in.
12:27Wild, yeah.
12:27I'm in.
12:27Exactly.
12:28Unless Arizona's another time zone, because they don't know what the hell's going on.
12:30I can't keep track anymore.
12:31Maybe they'll be Eastern time zone next week.
12:33I don't know what they're doing.
12:35They don't know what they're doing, but, hey, the weather's out and the golf courses are great.
12:38Anyway, Jan in Mountain View.
12:41Come on, Jan.
12:42Let's bring it on a victory Monday.
12:43What you got?
12:44Hell, yeah.
12:47Well, what I was going to bring up is that I'm getting tired of the special teams, you know?
12:54Well, what's going on?
12:56I mean, we had a good set of players last year that could tackle those, you know, when they're bringing
13:04the ball, you know, when the opposition is coming towards us.
13:07I mean, why aren't they tackling them?
13:09I mean, yesterday the Raiders got like 49 yards.
13:13They got 40 yards.
13:14And I'm like, wake up, you know?
13:17What is this?
13:18I mean, do we still have the same coordinators we had last year?
13:21I mean, I doubt it.
13:23I mean, good Lord.
13:24What happened to the special teams?
13:27And thank goodness that the field goal kicker was able to, you know, knock one through and make those special
13:35points.
13:36Or I don't know if we would have won the game.
13:40But anyway, that was my point.
13:43And I would also, I don't know about, I don't know a special rusher out there.
13:49But they need a rusher to sack the quarterback because we still haven't gotten to the quarterback.
13:56And that's going to be a head issue, too.
13:59So thank you very much.
14:00Jane, thank you very much.
14:02Same coordinator, Brent Boyer, and most of the same personnel.
14:07And, yeah, it just continues to be a thing where.
14:10A little bit of a problem.
14:12Right.
14:12A little bit of a problem.
14:12Yeah.
14:13I'm like, I think it's mainly, well, for me, it's punt return yesterday, not an issue.
14:18And it's kickoff coverage.
14:20Those are the two ones that I look at.
14:21Well, Nick Wagner had a stat that's a stat that I saw.
14:25And I'm like, are we making too big of a deal out of this?
14:27Now, they had a bad, what was his name?
14:30Dylan Laub.
14:31Is that his name or something like that?
14:33And he's a special teams player of the week last week.
14:36He returned one for a touchdown for the Raiders in that game against the Jets.
14:40So he's a good return man.
14:41And he got loose on one.
14:43He didn't go all the way.
14:45After that, Wagner says there was a meeting on the sideline.
14:48And all of the kickoff coverage team was over there with iPads.
14:52And it was time to look at what the hell was going on in here.
14:56And after that, he averaged 24 yards per return.
14:59And was largely bottled up.
15:02So let me ask you a question.
15:04And again, this goes to, I think, what my take is today.
15:08The 49ers need to accept this.
15:10And all fans need to accept this.
15:12The bar is high.
15:16And so when we see even one play or one drive that we don't like, it sticks with us.
15:23And we sort of believe that something's wrong with the 49ers.
15:27The special teams has been this big topic today.
15:31Eddie P goes six for six, five extra points and a field goal.
15:36He didn't do anything wonky on kickoffs.
15:39The punter bought a ticket and a box of popcorn.
15:43And the Raiders got one long return.
15:47And we're coming in here going, I'm not saying the other kicks were all perfect.
15:52But like, he didn't flip the field or like, yes, gussy it up.
15:59I think they got the message.
16:00I'm not like concerned right now that the 49ers special teams unit is sideways.
16:07I'm not.
16:08It's not sideways.
16:09But if it continues at this level, it might cost you a game in the playoffs.
16:14And the first return, they ran a reverse 37 yards.
16:18The second return, they got 30.
16:20The third return, they got 56.
16:22And then they had the big meeting, apparently.
16:24Nick Wagoner reporting that they had the meeting.
16:27And then things got a little bit more buttoned up after that.
16:30But I just look at, you know, the situation with Jacob Cowling.
16:34It's a little bit scary when he has to catch the football and maybe run with it.
16:38Eddie Pinero has been inconsistent and your kickoff coverage has not been good.
16:43So these are things that, obviously, you're 7-1.
16:46It's not like, oh, my God, fire the coordinator and this is a disaster.
16:49But it's just something when you look at the game, you realize week after week,
16:53this is one of the weaknesses.
16:55Button it up.
16:55Button it up.
16:56But that's all.
16:57I don't think yesterday was as disastrous as it felt like.
17:01And when someone does get an opportunity to return a kickoff like seven times in a game,
17:08the message I'm getting is not, oh, you guys suck at this.
17:11It's that your team is scoring a whole lot.
17:14Oh, there were a whole lot of kickoffs.
17:17And they busted one.