00:19all right reset where we're at we'll get the phone calls in joey porter jr traded to the
00:23dallas cowboys i found out looking at my phone first thing when i woke up i had a text from
00:29john
00:30jansen good morning is it a good morning that's what i mean i know i don't send it to you
00:37all the
00:37time but i thought maybe this morning i would just you know start things off on the right foot
00:42yeah he made me mad before i even left the bed so look joey porter jr is far from the
00:48greatest
00:49corner of all time but let's just put out what he is he is a big man coverage corner those
00:55are the
00:55type of corners the lions have prioritized with this regime joey porter jr has not given up a
01:00touchdown in his last 1400 snaps dating back to week 8 of 2023 that's because it's when he's in
01:06the end zone he just grabs it well okay that's part of it he has committed a lot of penalties
01:10opposing quarterbacks only complete 48 of their passes when targeting joey porter jr he's not
01:15perfect but he would be an upgrade yes absolutely be an upgrade and he probably will be the best
01:21corner move between now and the end of the season so missed opportunity is a phrase you used yes um
01:27and disappointed that it didn't happen for the lions more good players is always a good thing
01:32and he would be a not just an upgrade he'd be a major upgrade over what we have right now
01:38you have a list of a few guys to keep an eye on it's a moving target because the deadline
01:42is not
01:43until november right but some teams that are struggling now if they continue to struggle
01:47like the tampa bay buccaneers they just re-signed this past offseason zyan mccullum he's got two
01:51years left on his deal past this one and it's not i think i read that the the salary cap
01:57hit for next
01:58year would be 15 million so again it's not it's not going to break you it's not going to prevent
02:04you
02:04from doing other things um and he's a guy that they could explore because tampa obviously 013 right now
02:10and things aren't looking good especially if baker mayfield can't play tyson campbell for the
02:15cleveland browns now i think a lot of people are surprised that they're two and one i don't think
02:20that that is necessarily sustainable so they may be in a position where they're looking to again
02:26continue a rebuild they've gotten some really nice production on some of their draft picks recently
02:31um and so would they be interested in moving a corner not the one we would want but right the
02:37other
02:37again it would still be an upgrade over what the lions have right now the available option right
02:42yeah um i mean the name i i threw out was cam taylor brit bigger corner for the colts they're
02:48one and
02:48two again they need to lose more games but he's on a one-year deal and i wouldn't think would
02:54cost you
02:54that much be a day three pick look i can end up making peace with it they're gonna have to
03:01do
03:01something it's just to me i feel like i'm settling so okay we both think the same thing they're gonna
03:07have to do something do they
03:13yeah john i'm gonna be optimistic yeah yeah they're gonna do something just gonna be mad again
03:19but that's okay but you don't like when i say stockholm's syndrome i might be being too cute but
03:23it is this idea that we like put a bubble really a description for you
03:27we put this bubble on and go well but we we live in the city of detroit our teams don't
03:31do these
03:32things yeah we like justify it we shouldn't be justifying no and i'm not justifying i just don't
03:38know that it's going to happen and i mean we heard from him at the beginning of the year we
03:42like the
03:43guys in that room we play that drop all the time but i do think he did point in there
03:49right now
03:51it's something that we haven't necessarily emphasized we like the guys we have in that room right now
03:56and i would hope you know he's watching what we're watching they've given up the most air yards in
04:01football the most points in football i think the second most yards in football they're 31st in red
04:06zone and third down a lot of these are third and longs it's it's directly attributed to the secondary
04:09look he said what he said then he can't possibly think that now yeah they were in on joey porter
04:15jr to what extent i don't know they were in on joey porter jr and the question is should they
04:20have
04:20been more aggressive because dallas said effort we don't care that it's a rental this is a second
04:23round pick more than a year down the line dallas was aggressive i don't think holmes was going to
04:30ever give up that capital for a rental i just don't think it's in his dna and i think that's
04:35a problem
04:35because i don't think you should put up barriers and walls around you because circumstances are always
04:41different i i'm really getting to a point guys where he's virtually lost all the clout and collateral
04:49he's built up with me oh i agree like i feel like he's a guy you know he's our gm
04:54i'm kind of
04:55indifferent i don't know if he's a good gm it's just the track record here what would make you think
05:00you're still going to do something the sedarius thing is what you'd point to i mean that's a fifth
05:04round pick right no i know that's what i'm saying i i'm not they're not willing to give up exactly
05:07capital like other teams are to get what you want and what you need well now let me just i
05:12will give
05:13him the room and that i'm not the craziest about jpj i i think he's a little overrated and he's
05:19not
05:19in the top tier of cornerbacks and you're gonna maybe pay him that but i would have done it for
05:24the rental i still would have done it for the rental that's the key you didn't have to pay him
05:27i think
05:27that was one of the roadblocks we had discussed right hey you know to pay this guy 30 million dollars
05:31a year on top of the other bills that they have coming up that could be what what nixes this
05:36deal but
05:36then i wake up this morning and i find out oh you didn't have to extend him now is he
05:41going to be a
05:41happy soldier i mean that's the thing you don't know what you're getting i've seen people wonder
05:46like does that make sense for a dan campbell led football team to take a player whose back injury
05:51suddenly heals a dan campbell football team needs to take on a few other looking different looking
05:56players sometimes see they trap them our culture or could this be a problem could we have somebody
06:01unhappy everybody's not happy in an nfl locker room okay right but they still play yes exactly so
06:06look i i've just gotten to a point here where i'm like i i think it's a little unfair to
06:12group
06:13the other gms in with him this is serious year six with him like a cut trade in a little
06:19slack for
06:20it being just year three here's where the biggest issue i have with brad is when you strike out in
06:28the
06:28draft and i'm only talking about the recent ones we all know that early on he had really good success
06:33in the draft but when you strike out you have to find ways to acquire players and make up for
06:40what you missed in the draft you can do it through trade you can do it through free agency and
06:44he was
06:45a year late in addressing the offensive line and if he doesn't do anything about the secondary
06:52this year is he going to again be a year late in addressing the secondary great point you're just
06:58wasting years while you have all these all pros while you do have and you're paying all this
07:04money and you're just wasting years now i'm not going to go jump off a cliff because today's not
07:08the deadline and i do think something could still be in the works i i'm open to the idea of
07:13branch
07:14coming back seeing how the secondary starts to emerge here and look with a healthier secondary maybe
07:21rake straw is your starter you know and see what things look like but to think that this team
07:26doesn't have that need no matter what it's just yeah i just i paint you the opposite picture they
07:31make this deal as offered and accepted we're having a show where we celebrate aggressive bold
07:35brad holmes porter and branch boosting the secondary coming out of the bye week and cade mays adding to
07:41the depth offensive line the two biggest position groups of need mega reinforcements on their way
07:45post by just in time for division games we don't get to do that show right now we don't get
07:49to
07:49do that show period around here i mean it's just it's kind of fitting that this happened last night
07:55duran's probably going to get his way today and then uh you got a hockey team starting tomorrow
07:59night do we what was your question in the two grand slam who are the wings playing on friday night
08:04what was my response their fans the fans and the rangers by the way uh okay we're going to get
08:11these calls you guys have been waiting i'm sorry we've been blabbing once shabath gets done with
08:14the update we're going to make sure to talk to lions fans could you hurry that up you make it
08:18a quick
08:18update that was like once shabath gets ready it's his dumb update what's he gonna say anyway
08:23uh then we'll talk to lions fans to kick off the nine o'clock hour 248-539-9797 it's 971
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