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Will the Lions regret not trading for CB Joey Porter Jr.?
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00:00I'm not even mad because I just don't give a damn anymore.
00:04If the GM of this team doesn't care as much as the fans do,
00:08then I just, I don't care.
00:10I'm still wondering which GM you're talking.
00:11I'm talking about Brad Holmes.
00:13Okay.
00:13Look, I'm not going to turn Joey Porter Jr. into a savior.
00:17I don't think that's who this is.
00:19This isn't the Packers getting Reggie White as an act of God.
00:23Joey Porter was going to make you better.
00:25And it would allow your backups to be backups.
00:28It would have DJ Reed on one side, Joey Porter on the other,
00:31and Roger McCreary playing the slot, which is what he was brought here to do.
00:35Your backups would then be Rake Straw and Rocky Sin, et cetera.
00:39It would make you better.
00:41You have the worst pass defense in the league.
00:43It would make you better.
00:45And then you wake up today and you find out that the Cowboys,
00:49oh, they gave up a two and a six.
00:51Yep.
00:51One problem.
00:53The second round pick is in 2028.
00:57The other problem is if you bring in Joey Porter Jr.
01:02And you don't sign him, you're going to get a third round comp pick.
01:07Now, we've heard that before.
01:09Unfortunately, news is kind of leaking out there that takes some starch out of what I thought was a pretty
01:15solid opinion.
01:16I can't change that.
01:18I can just promise you this is what I had in my notes this morning.
01:22As soon as I saw what the Cowboys gave up, it said to me, Brad wasn't willing to move from
01:28a third round pick because Brad thinks he's cute.
01:31I'll give up a third and I'll get a third if I don't sign him.
01:35No, you won't.
01:36Someone will outbid you.
01:39And now you sit here and again, Joey Porter Jr. is not a savior.
01:44But can I say with a decent amount of confidence, there will not be a better corner dealt at the
01:50deadline?
01:51Yeah, I can say that.
01:52And once again, why did Brad Holmes call?
01:57Why did the Lions engage Pittsburgh if they weren't going to go the distance to make this happen?
02:02Look, if the guy ended up getting a first round pick from Dallas, no way.
02:07I'm not doing that.
02:08Even I would say that.
02:10Now, if I gave up a one and Dallas gave me a two plus Porter, that's a different convo.
02:15We'll keep it simple.
02:17As we sit here today, the Dallas Cowboys have a weakness.
02:22They recognize it.
02:23They want to make it better.
02:25If you're going to do, I heard a couple of mopes call into the morning show and it was the
02:30funniest thing.
02:31First of all, you're promoting our show, you morons.
02:33They called, you know, Jim and John and the caller's like, oh, you know, Valenia and Rico, you know, I
02:39wish we had Willie Rofe instead of Pat Swilling.
02:42Oh, my God.
02:43I heard.
02:44I was just like, oh, man, you know, Pat Swilling.
02:47Wow.
02:48I got this poor bastard.
02:49So, look, my point is you guys can scream and yell, but what Brad Holmes is doing to me is
02:58just making me not give an F.
03:01The team's going to win more than they lose.
03:04Enough people will fill the stadium to keep them very profitable.
03:08They'll go to the playoffs.
03:09They'll get eliminated.
03:11He'll talk about what a successful year it was, and they'll go and do it again.
03:16Again, I please don't take it that I don't care about you guys.
03:20That's not it.
03:21It's just I don't have it in me to yell and scream.
03:24I'm completely turned off by Scott Harris, Brad Holmes, Trajan Langdon.
03:30I can't say the Wings GM.
03:31They don't have one.
03:33Bruh.
03:33It's national, Cody.
03:34Actually, the new Wings GM, his name is Bruh.
03:38I just I don't know what else to say.
03:41And if Brad doesn't care, why should I, you know, and you guys make your own choices.
03:47I think it's laughable.
03:48A second round pick in 2028.
03:51I need Joey Porter now.
03:53And guess what?
03:54He's going to play Sunday and he doesn't have a contract.
03:57The Cowboys haven't given this massive deal yet.
04:02But, man, the price that was given, Rico, a two in 2027 would be one thing.
04:08It's a two in 2028.
04:11Do you know what the Lions could look like by 2028?
04:14Yeah, you could be on the verge of blowing this whole thing up.
04:17So who cares?
04:18Right.
04:19But do whatever you want.
04:20And I'm sure a bunch of people will call up and lap it up and try to defend Brad
04:24Holmes.
04:25Do whatever you want.
04:26But I refuse to yell about it.
04:29I'm just so done with this guy and how he runs this team.
04:32If he ends up being right and winning a Super Bowl, cool.
04:34I don't think he's going to be right.
04:36See, I think I've hit the acceptance stage.
04:38Maybe that's where I'm at.
04:39I've hit acceptance where this is just who you are.
04:42It's like getting mad at a dog because they bark.
04:45That's just what dogs do.
04:46They bark.
04:47So Brad believes that there is not a window.
04:51Brad believes that his way will work and that his way is the only way that will work.
04:55He will never deviate from that because he has to show you that all the capital he's
05:00invested in all these players, it will pay off.
05:03Just wait and see.
05:04We're going to win.
05:05But you're not.
05:07Could you have done this?
05:09Absolutely.
05:10When I saw the price, I had to, once again, it was like yesterday, I had to double check
05:14to make sure this was real.
05:16Wait, wait, wait.
05:17That's it?
05:17That's all he went for?
05:19You've thrown away so many draft picks over guys who don't even play for you and you
05:26balked at this?
05:27It's the same way they balked at Jalen Phillips.
05:32I don't get it because, yeah, it can help you right now.
05:36At some point, I used to believe that Brad would just wake up and say, I got to start
05:42going for this.
05:43No.
05:43But Mike, he's not.
05:44He's not going to because, A, that's not who he is, and B, you don't have an owner that
05:49will demand it of him.
05:51I mean, who are we kidding?
05:52Jerry Jones is Mike Illich.
05:54You can laugh at that remark.
05:56I'm not being funny.
05:57Mike Illich was a fan, and Mike Illich desperately wanted to win, especially as he got older
06:01in life.
06:02Jerry Jones knows tomorrow's not guaranteed, and he's doing things.
06:05You want to call it stupid or desperate?
06:07Go for it.
06:08Well, what are you doing?
06:09You're sitting here with the worst pass defense in the league.
06:12Mike Illich was the last one who knew when you're in a window, you got to break that
06:17window open, and you got to do everything you can because when it closes, it closes.
06:22I mean, aside from Seattle last year, Mike, there's a reason why the same three teams are
06:26always in the Super Bowl from the NFC because those are the most aggressive teams every single
06:31year.
06:32You know they're going to do something.
06:34And spare me the whole, oh, well, look at Miles Garrett.
06:37He's hurt, and what about this?
06:39Guys, it's almost like college NIL.
06:43You don't spend it.
06:44You can guarantee yourself you're not going anywhere.
06:47Spending it doesn't mean you're going to the Super Bowl.
06:49Going after free agents does not mean you're going to make the Super Bowl.
06:53But if you just sit back and do nothing, well, you haven't ever gone to the Super Bowl.
06:58You would think that you would want to pattern yourself after the teams that keep consistently
07:03making it to the big dance.
07:05What we should do is do a sponsored show on this station, and it's one hour each day where
07:11Detroit fans can dunk on other teams who tried while they sit there with their empty case.
07:16And it should just be one hour.
07:18I don't know who would host it.
07:19I thought you were going to say lunch with Whitey.
07:22Honestly, your buddy Whitey, I want to hire him at the station.
07:25Have a show called Whitey and Company.
07:28No, honestly, David, I'd love to play a piece of audio if you wouldn't mind, because, okay,
07:33I want to make sure we're not being viewed as negative.
07:37Here's what Brad Holmes has done to Doug Karsh.
07:42Now, remember, Doug is a Brad bot.
07:45Doug loves.
07:46He doesn't like Brad Holmes.
07:47He loves Brad Holmes.
07:48This is what Joey Porter Jr., going to Dallas, did to Doug Karsh.
08:03People, we have broken through.
08:05See, that's not real.
08:07Oh, that's real.
08:07That's AI.
08:08Nope.
08:09That's AI.
08:09Real, unedited, raw audio.
08:12That's real.
08:13Paul, is that true?
08:16It's true.
08:16Is that true, Paul?
08:17Paul, yes, he did say those words, Rico.
08:20Even Gator was shocked.
08:21Wow.
08:22Yes, he broke him.
08:23Unedited.
08:24So, I need to know what you guys think.
08:27Joey Porter Jr. is going to the Cowboys.
08:29He's going to play Sunday.
08:31They did not lace him with a huge contract.
08:33They'll work on it during the year.
08:34The Cowboys do negotiate during the year.
08:37Why would Brad not do this move?
08:39Are you upset that they didn't?
08:41You guys do whatever you want.
08:43I just can't yell and scream about it anymore.
08:46This is year over year over year.
08:49He's not changing.
08:51It's not.
08:52I don't get to run the team.
08:54And ultimately, I just think there's enough people that are happy the Lions aren't egregiously bad.
08:58There's no pressure on them.
09:01I mean, I can tell you what's already going to happen.
09:03I mean, the guy doesn't talk.
09:04Look, they're going to go take on Carolina this week.
09:06Carolina's down both starting corners.
09:08They're down their best O-lineman.
09:10They're down their best wide receiver.
09:11You'll beat Carolina.
09:13And in that building, they're all going to be gripping their chandeliers thinking there's something special.
09:18And I just, this is about winning a Super Bowl.
09:21No better corner is going to get dealt at the deadline.
09:24And if one was, I can't imagine what it would cost.
09:28Joey Porter Jr. is a physical corner.
09:30He's a big corner.
09:32You don't have big corners.
09:34You know, DJ Reed is 5'9".
09:36You know, Joey Porter Jr., much like DJ Reed, he's going to get some penalties.
09:40But he's rangy.
09:42He's long, lanky, handsy, physical.
09:45I just, I never was going to yell about it.
09:49But when the guy goes for a sixth-round pick this year and a 2-in-28, I have a
09:56very difficult time offering you a counterpoint.
09:59And spare me the idea, well, maybe Porter didn't want to play in Detroit.
10:04Okay, guys, you will be able to create excuses for your GMs until you're blue in the effing face.
10:11I'm not that guy.
10:12I'm not doing that.
10:13Yeah.
10:14Rico, go ahead.
10:15No, no, I'm sorry, Mike.
10:16But no, the beauty of it also is if he decided not to go long-term with you, you get
10:20a third-round pick back.
10:22So in my world, there was really no loss for you.
10:28If you're worried about a second-round pick two years from now, fine, that's on you.
10:32But this is the same general manager who is thrown away, and we've accounted for how many third-round selections
10:38to move up to get projects or guys who aren't even on the team right now looking at you, Hendon
10:44Hooker, but you're afraid of giving up this one pick.
10:49I'm with you.
10:50I told you.
10:51I'm all about the defensive line, bringing in an edge rusher, and you do that, and the secondary gets better.
10:57But I'm not going to be mad if you went out there and got a better corner, because right now,
11:02your secondary's trash.
11:04It's hot garbage.
11:05Not even garbage, it's garbage.
11:07And look, the only one who's really missing is Branch.
11:10You know, what happens when there's an injury?
11:12What happens when DJ Reed goes down with a calf strain?
11:14Guys, these are the things.
11:15By the way, oh.
11:16They already lost Savante Maddox.
11:17Right, but he's not even a starter as it is.
11:20I'm saying, what happens when you're Carolina and both of your starting corners are out for eight weeks?
11:26It's non-functional at that point.
11:27I just, I'm tired.
11:30I'm shooting you straight.
11:31I'm tired of all of it.
11:32I'm bored by it.
11:33Because I know, I mean, I had the Lions at 10 and 7.
11:36I can bump into 11 and 6 if you want to say the Giants are now a free square.
11:39Happy to do it.
11:40But bottom line, what's it going to end up getting me?
11:44What's it going to do for any of us?
11:47I don't think much.
11:48I'm bored.
11:50But if you're happy paying 20 bucks for, you know, Bloody Marys with meat straws, do you?
11:55What do you want me to say?
11:56Guys, you can have, it is like Burger King.
12:00You can have it your way.
12:01I just, I don't know what else to say.
12:04And I'm just really frustrated.
12:06And I'm tired.
12:08I'm tired of all of it.
12:09Because it's not an honest effort by your GM.
12:12And it's not an honest product.
12:15It's rigid.
12:16It's stubborn.
12:18It's static.
12:20And it's like, the only thing you get in this town is a collection of people trying to dunk on
12:26other teams when something doesn't go quite right.
12:28Like, do you think the Rams care that Garrett's hurt now?
12:32They want Garrett for November and December.
12:35Brother, I call that, you're a member of the C party.
12:37Because, see, see, see, see, see what happens when you try.
12:42See what happens when you make moves.
12:44See what happens when you actually try to win a Super Bowl.
12:46Then bad things happen.
12:48And see, bad things didn't happen to us.
12:50Okay, well, you keep going your way.
12:52And you'll never get there.
12:54I just thought this was a nice way to replace Terry and Arnold.
12:57Pretty low risk.
12:59I'm not worried about a pick two years from now.
13:01And I think it would stabilize the secondary in a big way.
13:05But he disagreed.
13:07And maybe he gets here.
13:09He falls in love with the team and the grit and the Dan Campbell way.
13:12He wants to be here.
13:14Yeah.
13:14And now you look at it saying, well, he was worth a second round pick two years from now.
13:192-4-8-5-3-9-97-97.
13:22We'll start with this.
13:23We got Duren stuff.
13:24We've got an even worse update on Edvinson.
13:26Can't wait to get to that.
13:2897-1.
13:28We'll start with that.

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