00:00David, I know I'm way behind on these.
00:02We'll check in with the text.
00:03We'll get back to the people.
00:04Kelvin Shepard spoke today.
00:05It was defiant.
00:07It was very defensive.
00:08And I'm just asking you, do you think this is kind of the last stand
00:11at the OK Corral this weekend?
00:13I think the interesting note, I don't know why he said it.
00:16I would never have said it publicly, but fine.
00:19If we played tonight, it'd be possible for Brian Branch to play.
00:22And I'm going, who's clamoring for Branch on one or two practices
00:28after a year away from the game to play?
00:31Is that even fair to Brian Branch?
00:33And don't tell me, well, if the player wants to play.
00:36No, no, no, no.
00:37The whole idea is I want Brian Branch ready, comfortable.
00:42Have half a dozen, eight practices.
00:45Get the bye week.
00:46Let's get the install right.
00:47And then this kid, I don't even think it's fair to be like,
00:51all right, Brian, totally turn the defense around.
00:54That's not fair to Brian Branch.
00:56No, no, when he said that, I was just thinking of the drop.
00:59No, you're not.
00:59No, you're not.
01:00No, you're not.
01:01David, go ahead.
01:03Nick from Davidson texts in and says,
01:05after hearing Shepard's remarks on the defense,
01:07I can no longer defend him when other people tell me he's got to go.
01:12Then Ryan in Arizona texts in and says,
01:14I live here in Arizona and they think this Lions game is their get right game.
01:19I will be there Sunday with my Lions gear, but I'm concerned.
01:22Am I crazy?
01:23I don't know.
01:24Look, you should, unlike cookies, I think you should be concerned about 99 out of 100 NFL opponents.
01:31Here, how about this one?
01:32Minnesota wasn't concerned with Miami last week.
01:35That was a one-score game.
01:37All right, a couple weeks ago, Seattle probably wasn't concerned with the Commanders,
01:40with Marcus Mariota.
01:42They lost.
01:43I mean, this is still, like, Lion fan wasn't really concerned about Carolina.
01:48Right there.
01:48I was about to say that.
01:49I just, I think there's just a couple of teams in this league that might be excruciatingly bad,
01:54Tennessee being one of them.
01:55But outside of that, I don't like the schedule game.
01:59No, I think it's easy to identify good teams.
02:01Like, when you look at what the Rams schedule has been.
02:04When I have to fly around the world and play the Niners, that's a tough ask.
02:08When I got to go and fly to Philly to play, that's a tough ask.
02:11After going to Denver to play, that's tough.
02:13Now this week, your reward?
02:15Oh, my God, we're home.
02:16Buffalo.
02:16Hey, I can identify that and go, these are, at the time I'm playing them, good teams.
02:22You got to be careful with everybody.
02:23If you have a defense that's this bad, to Rico's credit, you're inviting everyone to the party.
02:30Meaning, everyone's going to give you a game if you can't stop anyone.
02:34You can't make fun of team slash quarterback.
02:37Well, he sucks.
02:38He's short.
02:39He's this.
02:40He throws picks.
02:41Not against you.
02:41No, and so far, everyone has put up damn near the same numbers.
02:45So, go ahead, Dave.
02:47A text here says, if Kelvin Shepard only gets fired if we lose to Arizona, then please, God, let us
02:54lose to Arizona.
02:56Johnny N. Auburn Hills texts in and says, Shep sounds exactly like a dude that knows he's about to lose
03:01his job.
03:02The mix of panic and aggression in his voice.
03:04You okay, big dog?
03:06Yeah, that's what it felt like to me.
03:08It just feels that way.
03:10Dan Campbell, I think, is totally safe, clearly.
03:13But Dan is gripping, too.
03:15It feels very, very, I don't want to use the term SOL.
03:21It just feels like we thought we were done feeling like.
03:25No, no.
03:25I think you could use SOL.
03:26Well, I think Dan is gripping because Dan knows these are my guys.
03:30These are my hires.
03:31I approved all of this.
03:33Yeah.
03:33And eventually, if this thing goes sideways, everybody who's pointing the finger at Shep is going to be pointing the
03:40finger at me.
03:42I thought you could use the Carl Lewis there.
03:43Go to Paul, 97.1.
03:45Paulie, how you doing, buddy?
03:47Hey, Mike.
03:47Hey, Rico.
03:48How you guys doing?
03:48Good.
03:49Hey, Paul.
03:49What's going on?
03:51I'm with you.
03:52I put 90% of this on Brad Holmes.
03:54My biggest issue, though, is I watch football all Sunday, and so many teams have half of their secondary out
04:01or missing players left and right.
04:03And they're still competing.
04:05They're still in the frame of the pass.
04:07And they're still trying to break up passes.
04:10Like, I watch when we play, and it's like, there's nobody around for eight yards in it.
04:14So, there has to be something in the scheme.
04:16I'm not saying these guys are great.
04:18Oh, you're right.
04:19But just to not be around.
04:20And that's the part where we can't really defend Shep anymore.
04:24You're right.
04:25I mean, Paul, we've talked about this, these teams, the injuries that are taking place.
04:30That's where I get so sick and tired of hearing about Brian Branch.
04:32It's like, okay, fine.
04:33You have one injury.
04:34I mean, these other teams, like Carolina was out there down nine starters on both sides of the ball.
04:38And we're going, what stopped them?
04:41They went out and did the job.
04:43No, Paul, you're right.
04:44It's not a well-coached operation right now.
04:47Yeah.
04:47And I obviously don't have any answers or fixes myself, but I don't get paid to either.
04:53But something's got to change.
04:55And if it's his job that wakes the players up, I don't know what it is.
05:00Do you think that happens?
05:01Do you think that happens if they – how about this one?
05:03Here, I'll give you a tricky question.
05:04The Lions walk off the Cardinals to win 33-31.
05:10You give up 350 yards passing the Jacoby Brissett.
05:14Does Calvin Shepard keep his job into the bye week?
05:17Yeah, he does.
05:18In that case, he still does.
05:19Okay.
05:19You know, not that I want it to happen.
05:23But, again, I don't – like you said earlier, who's on the staff that's going to step in
05:27and make a huge difference anyways.
05:28Bringing an outside, you know, deep coordinator off the streets to implement a whole new defense
05:33midway through the season is a disaster too.
05:35Yeah.
05:36No, Paul, you're not wrong, brother.
05:38I just wanted to add a little tricky question in there for you, not to be mean,
05:42but just to test the boundaries.
05:43I mean, if they lose, I don't see a way you bring them back.
05:48Right, wrong, or otherwise, I just – you got to do something.
05:51If they win, he's on life support.
05:53It's enough to move on through the bye.
05:56David, I know you want him gone, but once –
05:59You give up 30 points to the Arizona Cardinals?
06:01You have to go.
06:02How is it any different from any other games?
06:04Dan Campbell is telling you, it is his new level of acceptance.
06:11Okay, we won, we walked off, we gave up 350 yards, but did we win?
06:16Yeah.
06:16Okay, cool.
06:17Stack that over there.
06:18Let's go on to the next game.
06:20That's what we are right now, at least for this year.
06:23That's the new floor.
06:24Just win.
06:27We could add something else into this Kelvin Shepard mix.
06:30If anybody would like to accuse me of being a crackhead,
06:34am I crazy that I'm standing firm on 10 and 7?
06:39It's totally okay.
06:41I just feel like they're capable of winning more games than they lose
06:45playing this style because of how talented the offense is.
06:48Now, if injuries take place, I'll back it down.
06:51If they lose to Arizona, I'll back it down.
06:53But I still believe – my problem is they're going to be the Yankees.
06:58They're going to win, but not win anything I care about.
07:01No.
07:02See, I baked in injuries.
07:04So that's why I would say 10 and 7 is very optimistic.
07:0810 and 7 is nobody else gets injured.
07:10And 10 and 7 is you're winning a lot of these coin flip games,
07:14which are a lot.
07:16Tell you one thing.
07:17Part of that 10 and 7 looks better now.
07:20That's why you don't play the schedule game.
07:22Oh, your games against Packers were going to be wars, right?
07:25The Packers might be one of the five worst teams in football.
07:28Why?
07:29Injuries.
07:29Okay, you know what?
07:30What did I say like five minutes ago?
07:32You don't get to do that as a Lions fan.
07:35You don't get to make fun of the teams and say,
07:38well, this team can't do that because you can't stop them.
07:41Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you Christian Watson.
07:44Okay, can I present to you something?
07:46Okay.
07:47This is the level of ass that the Packers are.
07:50Okay?
07:50Okay.
07:51Ready?
07:52Do you know how many rushing yards the Packers have all season long?
07:57Four weeks.
07:59The way you said it, not a lot.
08:01The same amount of rushing yards that DeAndre Swift and Kyle Menungai had last week.
08:08Total.
08:10232 yards.
08:12We're heading into week five.
08:15I understand.
08:16They are a special brand of ass.
08:18Okay.
08:19All right.
08:19You know what?
08:20This is where love just goes out there and throws the ball 55 times.
08:24Okay.
08:25Hey, you might be right.
08:26I'm just.
08:27I understand where you're coming from.
08:29I just don't think we have the right to make fun of teams anymore.
08:32I mean the Lions defense could be just what the doctor ordered for that Packers offense.
08:36Oh, I see.
08:36That's a little Dan Campbell reset there.
08:38All right.
