00:00I just want to tell our viewers the latest update that's coming in and then you'll understand the marked difference
00:04of 10th October and today.
00:06Till now, only 150 detentions have taken place, while if you remember, on the 10th of October, the detentions have
00:12crossed 7,000.
00:13So, 150 detentions that have taken place, mostly people have been allowed to come in.
00:19Some of them continue to squat right outside the inner circle, while some of them who try in groups to
00:27move towards the inner circle,
00:29those are the groups that are being detained.
00:31So, there is decorum that seemingly is being maintained, while you've had the paramilitary forces and the Delhi police very
00:38clear that nobody enters the inner circle.
00:41And the original call, once again I'll take you back to it, was for people to gather in the inner
00:47circle at 5 p.m. of Cunot Place and unfurl the Tiranga, the tricolor.
00:53What you see anecdotally, yes, you continue to see a lot of people who come from all walks of life
00:59of their own volition,
01:00but the numbers are not as much as possibly they were on the 10th and the 11th.
01:06And the sheer fact, some would say it was a good strategy on the part of the administration to leave
01:12any crowds to come into the inner circle.
01:16So, you really don't know what the crowd really is that is coming to protest or those who have just
01:20come in,
01:21because Cunot Place attracts a fair amount of crowds from the national capital.
01:25I want to bring back the CJP spokesperson and we'll go back to all our panelists one by one.
01:32And the question I will ask you again, what's the next course of action?
01:35Your entire leadership, Pranav, now is in, you know, preventive custody.
01:41Yes.
01:42What now?
01:43Before I answer your question,
01:45Because people who you gave a clarion call to, some of them are still waiting.
01:49Waiting, hoping to know what next.
01:52Yes, we are in touch with each and every volunteer of ours.
01:55But before I answer your specific question,
01:57let me answer some very pertinent points which have been made by Rajat and Charuji.
02:03The government of this day has to run as per the constitution of India,
02:07not by its own whims and fancies.
02:09Their definition of what is law and what is order, what is the procedure,
02:13will not be the one that the Supreme Court of India or the people of this country shall follow.
02:17They cannot one day wake up and denotify Jantar Mantar,
02:19which has been a designated protest site for a long period of time.
02:23The Supreme Court of India in 2018 in the MKSS judgment has made it very clear
02:26that the people's voice has to be heard.
02:29People cannot be out of sight, out of mind for the government of the day.
02:33Therefore, when we talk about rule of law,
02:36we have to talk about what the judiciary decides is the rule of law
02:38and what the people of this country have signed up for.
02:41People of this country have signed up to live in a constitutional democracy
02:43and not to live in the lala land of a tin pot dictator.
02:48To answer your specific question about the movement,
02:51this is a movement which is run by the principles of Mahatma Gandhi.
02:55Today was, in a way, a setback.
02:58Today was a setback.
02:59It is a setback that our top leadership is in jail.
03:01But this is a very resilient movement.
03:03We have second, third, fourth, fifth layers of leadership.
03:06Our leadership is not just sitting in Delhi and Bangalore and in fancy studios.
03:10Our leadership is living in small towns of Sumastipur, Nursingpur and Trichy.
03:16These are the people who are the non-topper classes of this country,
03:19who have not had a fair chance, who are frustrated with their life.
03:22And they have shown that when cockroaches come out,
03:24they roar and they will and they shall win.