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00:00Hello and a very warm welcome to an India Today special broadcast. I'm Gaurav Sallam.
00:06Heart mein tiranga, dil mein regime change. Like in Bangladesh, is that what we want in India?
00:14Do we realize the importance and the significance of our tricolor, of our tiranga?
00:21Our tiranga that symbolizes our nation, our pride.
00:25There is now an intense debate across the nation over the protesters.
00:31Are they gradually moving towards a new phase like in Bangladesh?
00:38Is that the ultimate aim? Regime change through street protests.
00:43Keep the students in front and then you have radical Islamist organizations like Jamaat-e-Islami that they will move
00:49forward.
00:50But leaders of this unrest, are they truly inspired by what happened in Bangladesh?
00:57Students out in the front and radical Islamist engineering a regime change, that operation to our Sheikh Hasina.
01:05And then the systematic targeting of Hindus and other minorities in Bangladesh.
01:10Is that what we want to see in our country?
01:13Watch these images on your television screen.
01:17This is what is happening in the national capital.
01:20But on this broadcast, we will also show you images from Bangladesh.
01:25Is that an inspiration for Neha Bora, a student leader who is being mainstreamed?
01:33These are images from Bangladesh.
01:35Is this what we want in India?
01:40Is this the inspiration for the leaders of this so-called students' movement in India?
01:47This is what we want in our country?
01:50Remember that image, that image of Neha Bora being mainstreamed in that march to Supreme Court?
01:58Is that the ultimate aim in India?
02:01We need to open our eyes.
02:03We need to wake up to what's happening around us.
02:06India has witnessed weeks of protest, political confrontation and mounting disruption.
02:12But the bigger question is, is this dissent to defend democracy or a push to destabilize our economy?
02:22Traders, for example, are up in arms.
02:25Losses, they say, are mounting.
02:27Today, in the heart of the national capital, the city was paralyzed yet again.
02:33Kaukrat Janata Party founder Abhijit Deepke, he announced a march to Connaught Place with a tiranga.
02:40He was detained by the police.
02:43AISA chief Neha Bora, she too sought to join this march.
02:46She too was detained near Monday House.
02:49But for weeks now, protests by the Congress, other opposition parties, Kaukrat Janata Party, AISA, they have repeatedly disrupted the
03:00flow in the national capital.
03:03Abhijit Deepke says he was stopped from unfurling the tricolor in his own country.
03:08Delhi police insist, permission was denied, citing possible traffic disruption, inconvenience to commuters and risk of crowd spilling into sensitive
03:20areas.
03:21And that they had concerns that narrow lanes could impede movement of either emergency vehicles or ambulances.
03:29This actually brings a larger question to the fore.
03:33Where does the right to protest stand and where do the limits of that right actually begin?
03:40Because India's constitution, it guarantees freedom of speech and expression.
03:45Yes, India's constitution guarantees a right to assemble peacefully without arms.
03:51But neither right gives you unlimited power to do what you think you want to.
03:58Take for example, Article 19.
04:00It permits reasonable restriction under specified conditions.
04:04So this Section 153 of the BNSS empowers authorities to impose urgent restrictions to prevent danger and public disorder.
04:15That balance was actually examined by the Supreme Court of India.
04:19And Supreme Court of India, in the year 2020, in the Shaheen Bagh proceedings, during a wider debate over protests
04:26in public spaces,
04:28the court made it clear that the right to protest cannot translate into an indefinite occupation of public roads.
04:37And that the right of protesters must be balanced against the right of citizens of this country, other citizens of
04:43this country.
04:44The principle is straightforward.
04:47In other words, dissent is democratic, but public spaces cannot be held hostage indefinitely.
04:55At the same time, restrictions must also operate within the ambit of the law.
05:02And here is where the political battle actually sharpens.
05:05The focus now shifts from street protests to opposition leaders and activists invoking the language of regime change.
05:17Is that what we want in India and not through the ballot or through the ballot is that big debate?
05:25Congress member of parliament, Pawan Khera, spoke of defeating the government and changing the system through elections.
05:33Imran Masood declared that the regime must change.
05:37Lawyer Prashant Bhushan has openly called this fight a fight for regime change.
05:44A democratic right, he clarified.
05:47The government on its part is questioning the intentions of the Congress, the opposition parties, civil society members who are
05:57joining hands.
05:57Take for example, defense minister Rajnath Singh.
06:01He said that the objective is Bangladesh-style regime change and anarchy in India.
06:09BJP President Nitin Nabeen has accused the opposition of pursuing an agenda to destabilize India's growth story.
06:17And Smriti Rani, in an exclusive conversation with me, insisted any change in India will happen only through the ballot
06:26and destabilization process or any regime change through other means will not happen in India.
06:35She's confident the BJP will win 2027 Uttar Pradesh election.
06:40She said so in response to a question.
06:42And Union Home Minister, Amit Shah, he says, look at this opposition.
06:47The government will win 2029 elections too.
06:51The bigger question today, how can those who claim to defend democracy invoke regime change against a democratically elected government?
07:012014, 2019, 2020, 2024 and state elections.
07:06You win some, you lose some, but you fight.
07:10Is this a fight at the ballot box or is this an attempt to tarnish the system and then destabilize
07:20the system?
07:21We'll debate that.
07:22We'll get you all sides of the story.
07:24But first, listen in to this very intense war of words between the government and the opposition.
08:00The government and the opposition.
08:06foreign
08:09foreign
08:12foreign
08:13ri jim chouder bolo raha hai woak chore qaddi chouder
08:15hem aapna mqsad
08:17khud dohrar raha hai hai
08:18bahar baar dohrar raha hai
08:20ki hamayi is serkayar ko harana hai
08:23Pasarajit karna hai
08:24is system ko badal na hai
08:27to yhe rajnaath sing gi
08:28jagda jamus binde kar kiyo a gae
08:30sharlok home
08:31regime change ho raha hai
08:33arree to hhum tooh kehray r���ay regime change
08:35karayenge saab
08:37sayaba
08:3887 mein kiya huwa tha regime
08:39nahi badala tha
08:48How does a regime change in a democracy like India, through elections?
08:57The regime means what is the meaning of the regime?
09:05How does the regime change?
09:06How does the regime change?
09:07How does the regime change change in a country?
10:02How does the regime change change change?
10:11I am saying that this regime change is a regime change, and we are doing a regime change.
10:21At the time of the press conference, the British people and the country are saying that their mind,
10:55the regime change is a regime change, and we are doing a regime change.
11:00So I would like to say that the country is a regime change, and it is a regime change.
11:09And then there are economic costs of these protests.
11:13Knot Place is one of Delhi's prime commercial hubs.
11:16But traders there are up in arms. They say these repeated disruptions are turning business hours into hours, days and
11:26weeks of uncertainty, chaos and economic losses.
11:31Fewer shoppers, falling footfall, mounting losses. They are not just hitting shop owners, but even daily wagers, small time vendors,
11:40workers, families that depend on daily earnings.
11:43So the Chief Justice of India, he has flagged this financial distress that's faced by the small vendors.
11:50He has noted that the Delhi High Court has already taken up the issue that compensation may be possible under
11:57civil law.
11:59Traders, meanwhile, are seeking Prime Minister Narendra Modi's intervention.
12:03Associations have moved the Supreme Court over these financial losses.
12:06The numbers paint a very stark picture of losses that traders are suffering every day, they say.
12:13So what are the traders in Knot Place and in the national capital saying in general?
12:20An estimated 2,000 crore rupees overall losses with business activity reportedly down to just 30% of the normal
12:29levels.
12:29The impact extends not just across Knot Place, but Delhi's trading community, 15 lakh traders, they say they have been
12:37adversely impacted by these series of protests that have been happening.
12:42Shopper footfall, it's reportedly plunged from 2 to 3 lakh a day to under 50,000 a day.
12:48Markets are struggling, shoppers are struggling, the shopkeepers are struggling just to stay afloat.
12:53In Delhi's upscale Khan market, for example, daily losses are estimated at between 5 and 7 crore a day, not
13:02our figures, figures of the Traders Association.
13:05And that translates into an estimated 1.5 lakh losses per shop per day.
13:12The battle is now brewing between the right to protest and their right to earn their livelihood.
13:19India today's team of ground reporters, they fanned out across the national capital to get you a 360 degree perspective.
13:27We get you all sides of the story, you decide who's right, who's not.
13:37Protest, politics, police action, these seem to be the order of the day in the national capital in the recent
13:45times.
13:48Every day, Cannot Place braces for a new showdown.
13:51But Cannot Place has historically been known to be one of Delhi's iconic marketplaces.
13:57A name synonymous with recreation.
14:00Depending on that very ecosystem are hundreds of traders.
14:04Traders were now crying foul.
14:06And the battle over where the right to protest ends and the right to earn has begun.
14:14Delhi's trading community is pushing back.
14:17Their charge, repeated protests and blockades are hitting business, disrupting markets and threatening livelihoods.
14:25The battle reached the top court.
14:27Two traders' bodies, the Delhi Kirana Committee and the Khan market traders' body flagged alleged financial losses.
14:34Their argument is blunt.
14:37CP is a commercial hub, not a protest site.
14:40They want demonstrations confined to designated locations.
14:45There are a lot of people who are paying for their lives.
14:49There are a lot of people who are paying for $50,000 to $3,000 per day.
14:53If you don't have a shutter, there are two things that you have.
14:57One is the salary of the staff.
14:58The people who are keeping there are 30-30 people.
15:01There are 6-8 people.
15:03No mother-in-law will not be prepared to go to retail and retail.
15:09We will go to the market and we will stop.
15:15The CGI has also taken note of the livelihood concerns.
15:18He urged all sides to let better sense prevail, acknowledging the hardships small vendors and their families could face.
15:27He further added that traders could raise their claims of business losses on October 26,
15:32noting that the Delhi High Court has already taken up the issue.
15:44The traders haven't stopped there.
15:46They have taken their fight to the centre.
15:49The New Delhi Traders Association has written to Home Minister Amit Shah, demanding a halt to protest in CP.
15:56It wants tighter security, adequate police deployment at market entry points and restrictions on protesters entering commercial areas.
16:06Meanwhile, CJP founder Abhijit Dipke has turned the tables on the traders' allegations.
16:12He argues that peaceful protests do not hurt businesses.
16:15Government shutdowns and restrictions do.
16:18Accusing the authorities of turning Delhi into a war zone.
16:21Dipke insists that protest is a fundamental democratic right.
16:26And the Congress has weighed in their support too.
16:29Yes, yes, the government is close to Parliament.
16:33That's why we want to come here and hear our voices.
16:38That's why the burden of the people of the country is in the country.
16:42It is absolutely true.
16:43But the government's responsibility is at that time.
16:46That the government is going to leave the law of the law of the law.
16:49One protest, two competing claims.
16:53The right to protest on one side, the right to livelihood on the other.
16:58The question, whether both can coexist without the market becoming the battleground.
17:03Bureau Report, India Today.
17:08Losses of 2,000 crore in festival season, is that acceptable?
17:13We want a better India, or do we want a bitter India?
17:19What's the ultimate aim of the protesters? What's the end goal?
17:22Let's call a spade a spade on India first.
17:25Let's debate.
17:25Drijesh Kalappa, Congress Party's national spokesperson, and a very well-respected senior lawyer.
17:31Tuheen Sinha, BJP's national spokesperson, and an author of a book on battling red terror,
17:38seeking a Naksal Mukt Bharat.
17:40Dr. Vikram Singh is former DGP of Uttar Pradesh in Savan, who's dealt with protests extensively.
17:45But I first want to go to Atul Bhargav, President of the New Delhi Traders Association.
17:50Mr. Bhargav, welcome.
17:53Sir, the sight of the tricolor always fills our heart with great pride.
17:59But when you see people with the tricolor at Knot Place, especially now,
18:05why does the heart of the traders sink?
18:10You see, the question here is, the aim is not only to fly the tricolor,
18:16but when you have a number of people joining Knot Place,
18:20and the number swells more than the expected people,
18:23and what we have seen in the past, when these protests were happening,
18:27turning into violence, we are scared that the same situation may happen in CP,
18:32which partly did happen this today in the evening.
18:35And that is why we are very proud of our tricolor,
18:39but not this way, the way the CJP are wanting to unfluor it in Knot Place.
18:47Sir, before I bring in Mr. Kalappa, I just want a little clarification.
18:50When we hear of these losses of 2,000 crore this festival season,
18:56how have the traders and the organizations come to this figure?
19:01Sir, are you asking me?
19:08Yes, Mr. Bhargav.
19:09You see, I am basically talking of 100 crores a day,
19:13and which basic compromises of Knot Place, Janpat, Palika Bazar,
19:18and the surrounding areas.
19:20Collectively, we are talking of roughly 100 crores a day.
19:24And if I am talking 2,000 crores,
19:26if you see for the last since July till now,
19:28this number has swelled up.
19:31Today is the festival time.
19:32We have invested money in the goods,
19:35hoping to get instead of 100 crores a day to 200 or 300 crores a day,
19:40but we are down to 25%.
19:42There are days we have not been able to make effective sales.
19:46We even cover our rentals.
19:48Forget about our salaries and other taxes and electricity.
19:53Our request is very simple to all political parties.
19:58Protesting is the right.
19:59I am not saying, but take it to the place.
20:01Very frankly, your protest may be for a better tomorrow,
20:05but you are killing our today's sale.
20:07So, we have nothing against protest,
20:10but not Knot Place.
20:11Knot Place is the commercial centre
20:13for commercial activities,
20:14not for protests at all.
20:16And we have suffered a lot for the last two months.
20:18And it has gone beyond.
20:20In my 50 years of being in Knot Place,
20:23I have never seen such low sales till date.
20:27Sir, stay with me.
20:28Vijesh Kalappa,
20:29you are a lawyer par excellence.
20:33Sir, the Supreme Court
20:34in the Amit Sahani versus Commissioner of Police
20:37in the judgment on the 7th of October 2020,
20:42made it very clear
20:43that the erstwhile mode and manner of dissent
20:47against colonial rule
20:48cannot be equated with a self-ruled democracy.
20:52Public ways and public spaces
20:54cannot be occupied in such a manner
20:57and that too indefinitely.
21:00Right to assemble peacefully and protest
21:02against the actions or inaction of the state
21:04are subject to reasonable restrictions.
21:09Sir, are these protests now crossing all those limits?
21:15How do you read the situation?
21:17Jaurav, thank you for having me on the show.
21:19And it's always a pleasure to be on your show.
21:22I think the first thing is
21:24that the right to protest
21:25exists under Article 19.
21:27And the right to livelihood is under Article 21.
21:31And both of these are fundamental rights.
21:33Right?
21:33But who is the onus on
21:36to ensure that those rights,
21:39both of these rights,
21:41are harmoniously made use of
21:44by the people?
21:45Right?
21:46This is the important aspect.
21:48And who is the onus on?
21:49The onus is always on the government.
21:51Onus can't be on political parties.
21:53If a political government decides
21:56that they're going to close
21:57all the DMRC stations,
21:59if they're going to, you know,
22:01shut down and bring,
22:03deploy 50,000 policemen
22:05into the field
22:07to ensure that protesters don't reach.
22:11See, protesters are also going
22:12likely to be customers
22:13if they're going to save
22:15even Connaught plays.
22:17What will they do?
22:18They also need to eat something.
22:19They also need to drink something.
22:21None of these people
22:22are carrying bazookas
22:23and machine guns.
22:25They're all coming there
22:26with the intent of protest.
22:27And they will also buy something
22:29to eat or to drink.
22:31Okay.
22:33So, this could be turned positively
22:36if the government has the intent.
22:38But the point is that
22:39the government wants to stifle
22:41all protests.
22:42And in that process,
22:44they're also killing businesses.
22:45So, this is the whole problem.
22:48Now, you can't…
22:48Do Hinsenar respond?
22:49Do Hinsenar respond?
22:51Brijesh Kalapa
22:51raises a very valid question.
22:53The protesters also want
22:54to eat and drink.
22:55They will come,
22:56protest and spend money
22:58in Connaught plays.
22:59The government
22:59is not only stifling protest.
23:01Brijesh Kalapa
23:02and the Congress party say
23:03you're also stifling
23:04business, sir.
23:05Respond.
23:09Well, good evening, Gaurav.
23:11Good evening, everybody.
23:12I'm not surprised
23:13by the argument
23:14of my friend
23:15from the Congress party.
23:16You know, he wants protest economy
23:18to prevail over the normal economy,
23:20which I'm not surprised
23:21because that's what
23:22Rahul Gandhi wants
23:23the country to be reduced to.
23:24But what we are,
23:26you know, witnessing right now
23:28is OCP,
23:30obsessive, compulsive protesting.
23:32First of all,
23:33these protests,
23:33these, you know,
23:34infinite protests
23:35carry no rationale
23:36because you have
23:37multiple petitions
23:38being heard
23:39by the Supreme Court.
23:40So, the primary objective
23:42of these infinite protests
23:43is to browbeat the judiciary.
23:45You just read out
23:46from the Supreme Court judgment
23:48of October 2020.
23:49Let me take you back
23:51to another similar judgment
23:53of July 2018.
23:55This is the case,
23:56Majdur Kisan Shakti Sangatthan
23:58versus Union of India,
23:59where on 23rd July 2018,
24:02what are the key,
24:02you know,
24:03takeaways from that judgment?
24:04No absolute right
24:06to protest
24:06at a venue
24:07of one's choice.
24:09So, why should they be
24:09obsessed with Jantar Mantar?
24:11Number two,
24:12authorities can regulate
24:13the venue size
24:14and manner of protest,
24:16which is what they are doing.
24:17Number three,
24:18the court
24:19specifically considered
24:20whether protest
24:21must be allowed
24:22at Jantar Mantar
24:23even then.
24:24You know,
24:25please understand,
24:26Jantar Mantar,
24:27like, you know,
24:27the trade bodies
24:28have explained to you,
24:30is the hub of business.
24:31And also,
24:32in the festive season,
24:33the entire purpose
24:35of these protests
24:35seem to be
24:36unleashed
24:37financial anarchy.
24:38And by the way,
24:40you know,
24:40I mean,
24:40Oh, that's a grave charge.
24:42The protesters
24:42have met up
24:43or forced into
24:43something else.
24:44They want to...
24:46No, no,
24:47absolutely.
24:47And, you know,
24:48my suggestion to them
24:49would be,
24:50since, you know,
24:50the Congress
24:51representative
24:52has made it very clear,
24:54they are looking at
24:54creating a new model
24:55of protest economy.
24:57Please go to Burari.
24:59It's barely
25:0012 kilometers away.
25:01There you can sit
25:02till 2029,
25:04till the next elections,
25:04you know,
25:05have picnic the whole day.
25:06And then for the next
25:07five years,
25:07because you have
25:08with this kind
25:08of an approach,
25:09with this kind
25:10of a, you know,
25:11denigrating approach,
25:12you have no chance
25:13in 2029.
25:15So you have said
25:15I will get Mr. Kalapar
25:17to respond to that.
25:18I want to bring
25:18into this conversation.
25:20Okay,
25:20I want to bring
25:21into this conversation
25:22Dr. Bikram Singh.
25:23Dr. Singh,
25:23the protests we saw,
25:26including that
25:26march to Supreme Court,
25:28the BJP says,
25:29and you just heard
25:30Mr. Thuin Sina
25:31say that it's an attempt
25:32to browbeat
25:33the system
25:35or browbeat
25:35the judiciary.
25:36The protests
25:38that we saw
25:38either towards
25:39Supreme Court
25:40or at Akashwani Bhawan.
25:42Sir,
25:42is that legitimate?
25:44Whether it's being done
25:45by the leader of opposition
25:47or the principal
25:48opposition party
25:48or anybody else,
25:50is that legitimate
25:51in the eyes
25:52of the law?
25:54Good evening,
25:55Gaurabji and gentlemen.
25:57This was best avoided.
25:59It is absolutely
25:59illegal in the eyes
26:01of law
26:01to march
26:03right up to
26:03the Supreme Court.
26:04They have been
26:05castigated
26:06by the
26:07Chief Justice
26:08of the Supreme Court
26:09to march
26:09into a
26:11secluded area,
26:12an area
26:13that is protected,
26:14that is the Akashwani,
26:16march up to
26:16the Prime Minister's
26:17residence,
26:18and then what have you?
26:19This is absolute
26:20as per the
26:21toolkit,
26:22weaponize the roads
26:23and then take over
26:24the roads,
26:25then escalate the violence,
26:27then play the victim card.
26:28It is absolutely
26:29as per the doctrine
26:30of the particular toolkit
26:31that we have discussed
26:32earlier also.
26:33It is bad in law,
26:35it is absolutely
26:35illegitimate,
26:36and I wish people
26:37had heard the anguish
26:38of Mr. Bhargav,
26:40that he said that
26:4115 lakh traders
26:42are impacted
26:42and these are just
26:43not the traders alone,
26:44the daily wages,
26:45the laborers,
26:46and everybody,
26:47and the NRIs,
26:48the tourists,
26:49and the families
26:50that they go there
26:50are absolutely
26:51mortified and petrified
26:52by the fact
26:53that the fierce psychosis
26:54that develops
26:55as a consequence
26:56of this agitation.
26:57And Mr. Tuhin Sinha
26:58has a very pertinent
26:59point when he says,
27:00why not the Ramlila ground?
27:02Because the glamour
27:03quotient of the
27:04Connaught Place
27:04is not there.
27:05Ramlila ground
27:06will always be
27:07a Ramlila ground,
27:08the poor country
27:08cousin of the Connaught Place,
27:09and I'll tell you
27:10the fact,
27:10the post-demonstration,
27:14I mean,
27:15the playtime
27:16will not be available
27:17at the Ramlila ground,
27:18which will be available
27:19at the Connaught Place area.
27:20And I will say that…
27:21Sir, pertinent point,
27:22may I get
27:22Brijesh Kalappa
27:23to respond
27:24before I come to
27:24Mr. Bhargav?
27:25Brijesh Kalappa,
27:27these protests
27:28are more
27:30real makers
27:32than protesters.
27:33Their intention
27:34is to create
27:36anarchy,
27:37target the security forces,
27:39and then this conversation
27:41around regime change,
27:42how do you read that,
27:43sir?
27:43You know,
27:45the government says
27:46regime change
27:46can only happen
27:47through the ballot.
27:48What is this conversation
27:49about regime change
27:51and being inspired
27:51by Bangladesh?
27:54It's not the Congress
27:55Party which has said
27:56that,
27:56it is Mr. Prashant Bhushan.
27:58And if the Congress
27:59Party wanted to speak
28:00about a regime change,
28:02we would have spoken
28:02about a regime change.
28:03It's not us
28:04who is speaking
28:05about a regime change.
28:06But the point is this,
28:08that if you're going
28:10to denigrate
28:11and speak
28:11in such a manner
28:14about the protesters
28:16and say
28:16that they're all
28:17real makers
28:18and they have
28:19no business
28:19and so on and so forth.
28:21This is the equivalent
28:22of calling the students
28:24and those people
28:25who are genuinely
28:26have some agree,
28:27you know,
28:28some matter
28:29to complain about
28:30to say that,
28:31look,
28:31these are all cockroaches
28:32and these are all flies.
28:34I think you've already
28:35seen the effect
28:36of where it has taken us,
28:38right?
28:38So I think
28:39when you're making
28:41use of language
28:42to describe people
28:44who have a genuine
28:45reason to protest,
28:47I think let's be
28:48a little respectable
28:49about them,
28:50right?
28:51Let's treat them
28:52also as equals.
28:54You may have been
28:55an officer
28:55and you may have seen,
28:57you know,
28:58all kinds of people,
28:59you may be of a certain age,
29:01but I think
29:02there must be
29:03a certain decency
29:04in discourse.
29:05I think
29:06this is what
29:08has really created
29:09this problem
29:10in the first place.
29:11This,
29:11you know,
29:12somebody,
29:13Mr. Bhargav,
29:14I wanted you to respond,
29:15you know,
29:16on the trade aspect,
29:17but Mr. Bhargav,
29:18give me 30 seconds.
29:19Toohin Sinha
29:20and Dr. Vikram Singh
29:21both have their finger up.
29:23They want to respond.
29:25Toohin Sinha,
29:26go first
29:26and then Dr. Vikram Singh.
29:30No, no,
29:31I just want to
29:31with all due respect
29:32tell Mr. Bhargav
29:33Kalappa
29:33that I'm sorry
29:34I can't respect
29:35these protesters
29:35after what I have seen
29:36in the last three days.
29:38You are harboring
29:39fantasies,
29:40wicked fantasies
29:41of, you know,
29:42replicating
29:43Nepal and Bangladesh
29:44style bloody coup
29:46to, you know,
29:48dethrone
29:48the current government.
29:50And why I'm
29:51particularly appalled
29:52is that, you know,
29:53Prashant Bhushan
29:54had nothing to do
29:54with the Congress Party.
29:55The moment
29:56his audio came out
29:57where he's saying
29:58that bloodshed
29:58has become inevitable,
30:00Rahul Gandhi
30:00lapsed him up.
30:01Neha Bora
30:02had nothing to do
30:03with the Congress Party.
30:04The moment it comes
30:05to the fore
30:05that she's a die-hard
30:06fan of, you know,
30:08Sharjil Imam
30:09and Omar Khalid,
30:11Rahul Gandhi
30:11lapsed her up.
30:12So today,
30:13unfortunately,
30:14you know,
30:14I don't know
30:15how comfortable
30:15you are
30:16with the present
30:17leadership of Rahul Gandhi,
30:18but Rahul Gandhi
30:19has reduced
30:20this Congress Party
30:21to a BBR club,
30:24the Bora
30:25Bhushan
30:26Rathi club.
30:26And this is not
30:27what, you know,
30:28we expect a
30:29responsible opposition
30:30to be.
30:31Sir, since you've
30:32made a direct charge,
30:33Dr. Kalapa respond.
30:34Dr. Vikram,
30:35in 30 seconds,
30:35I'll come to you.
30:36Yeah, I have to
30:37assume that the
30:38BJP spokesperson
30:39is a welvisher
30:40of the Congress Party
30:41and he's giving us
30:42good advice.
30:43I think there is
30:45nobody in his senses
30:46who will believe
30:47this kind of,
30:47you know,
30:48advice which the
30:49BJP spokesperson
30:51wants to give to us.
30:54Fair enough.
30:55Dr. Vikram Singh,
30:56you want to respond
30:57that these are not
30:57real makers.
30:58They are genuinely
31:00impacted and
31:01influenced by
31:02what's happening
31:02and that is why
31:03these people have
31:04taken to the streets
31:05some with the
31:06Tiranga.
31:07You know,
31:08Mr. Kalapa says,
31:09why denigrate them
31:10calling them
31:11just real makers?
31:13Mr. Kalapa is a
31:14thorough gentleman
31:15and he seems to be
31:16judging others by
31:17his own lofty
31:18standards.
31:19The ground reality
31:20is that these people
31:21have no credibility.
31:22When I say these,
31:22the agitators have
31:23no credibility
31:24left in them
31:25and I would say
31:26strongest exception
31:27to the fact that
31:28the police have a
31:28job at hand when
31:29they're facing
31:29such agitators.
31:31I have never seen
31:32such rowdy elements
31:33in my career of
31:3436 years and the
31:35police have been
31:35extremely tolerant
31:36and I would say
31:38extremely,
31:39extremely compassionate
31:40too.
31:40Had they been
31:41in any other state,
31:42things would have
31:42been a different
31:43story altogether.
31:44But that for
31:44another day,
31:45the fact of the
31:46matter is Mr. Kalapa
31:46knows more about
31:48policing than I
31:48would do and I
31:50will tell you why.
31:51He is a very
31:52distinguished lawyer
31:53and then he has
31:54policing in his
31:54blood.
31:55Therefore, he can
31:56give a tutorial or
31:57two to all of us.
31:58But the credibility
31:58of the agitators
32:00is an all-time low
32:01and if you trust
32:02them, well, you
32:03are actually quoting
32:04the recipe of disaster
32:05as it did happen
32:06in Jantar Mantar
32:071, 2 and
32:08subsequently.
32:09Fair enough.
32:10And I will come to
32:11Jantar Mantar 1, 2
32:12and subsequently in
32:13just a moment because
32:14losses have been
32:15mounting over a
32:16considerable period of
32:17time.
32:18But since there is
32:19this conversation
32:20around Bangladesh,
32:21that is where the
32:23red flag should go
32:24up for everyone,
32:25anyone inspired by
32:27Bangladesh.
32:28And I want you to
32:28look at those images
32:29of what happened
32:30in Bangladesh.
32:32The regime change
32:34debate, it's actually
32:35now taken a very
32:36different turn.
32:38Now, AISA chief
32:39Neha Bora, and
32:41we'll also show you
32:42those images where
32:43in that protest
32:45towards the Supreme
32:45Court, she was
32:47brought in by the
32:48image that you see
32:49on your television
32:50screen.
32:51Now, Neha Bora
32:52has invoked
32:54Bangladesh's Gen Z
32:56movement,
32:57congratulated those
32:58who in her words
33:00showed the way
33:01before celebrating
33:02Bangladesh as a
33:04role model for
33:05political change.
33:08Perhaps,
33:10Ms. Bora needs to
33:11confront a far more
33:12uncomfortable question.
33:14What followed after
33:15that?
33:16And who paid the
33:17price for it?
33:18Every Indian must
33:19know.
33:20The aftermath was
33:22anything about just
33:23changing Sheikh
33:24Hasina's government.
33:25That's their internal
33:27matter.
33:27Of course, India
33:28got associated
33:29because Bangladesh
33:30put her in a
33:31flight and then
33:32sent her to India
33:33and we were left
33:34to deal with that
33:35situation.
33:36But what happened
33:37on ground?
33:38What happened on
33:39ground was a period
33:40marked by violence,
33:42fear and systematic
33:43targeting of Hindus
33:44and other minorities
33:46in Bangladesh.
33:47I want you to look at
33:48those images on your
33:49television screen
33:50because public
33:51memory is short
33:52and those who
33:53don't learn from
33:54history are condemned
33:55to repeat it.
33:57These are not
33:58political slogans.
33:59These are human lives
34:00that have been lost
34:02in Bangladesh.
34:03Hindu lives,
34:04minority lives lost
34:05in Bangladesh.
34:06After that so-called
34:07student revolution,
34:09that regime change
34:09operation, which
34:10investigation subsequently
34:12revealed had a big
34:13role paid by radical
34:15Islamist organizations
34:16like Jamaat-e-Islami.
34:17We want that in India?
34:18India, the image
34:20that you see on your
34:20television screen,
34:2118th of December,
34:23Deepu Chandradas was
34:24lynched.
34:25On the 24th of December,
34:27Amrit Mandal was
34:29lynched.
34:3020th of, 30th of
34:31December, Bijendra
34:32Biswas was shot dead
34:34in Bangladesh.
34:36Not just three names,
34:38not just three lives,
34:40not just three families
34:41destroyed.
34:42This was the beginning
34:44of something far more
34:46sinister, the systematic
34:48targeting of Hindus
34:49in Bangladesh.
34:51Reports from 2024
34:52cited more than
34:542,200 cases of
34:56violence against Hindus
34:58and other minorities.
35:00Temples were targeted.
35:02Durga Puja Pandals
35:03were targeted.
35:04They were vandalized.
35:05In November that,
35:07three Hindu temples
35:08were vandalized
35:09in Chittagrama.
35:10In December,
35:12an Eskorn center
35:13in Dhaka was set on fire.
35:16Students movement?
35:18Is this what happens
35:20there?
35:20These are not footnotes
35:22to some political
35:22movement.
35:24These are a reminder
35:25of the human cost
35:27when law and order
35:28breaks down.
35:30The minorities
35:31in Bangladesh
35:33were systematically
35:34targeted by radical
35:36Islamists.
35:37So when leaders
35:39who are being
35:40mainstreamed in India,
35:41like Neha Bora,
35:43celebrate those
35:44who she says
35:46showed the way,
35:48then that question
35:49becomes unavoidable.
35:51What is the message
35:53of this regime change?
35:56What is that message
35:57when some in India
35:59are inspired by
36:00what happened
36:01in Bangladesh?
36:02a change that's applauded
36:04from a political
36:07platform?
36:08Ordinary people
36:09face fear.
36:10Ordinary people
36:11face violence
36:12and loss
36:13of loved ones.
36:14Regime change,
36:15takhta palatmeh
36:16sound like some slogan,
36:17but those who
36:18suffer the consequences
36:19for them,
36:21like in Bangladesh,
36:22for the Hindus
36:23in Bangladesh,
36:25it ends up being
36:26a question
36:28of their very
36:29survival.
36:30Do we want
36:31a situation
36:31like that
36:32in India?
36:33Is that
36:34what we are
36:35looking for
36:35in India?
36:36Get inspired
36:37by Bangladesh.
36:39We've covered
36:40regime change
36:41operations
36:41in countries
36:43where the
36:44Jasmine revolution
36:45was happening.
36:46We saw the
36:47kiosk in Egypt
36:48after what happened
36:49at Tehrir Square.
36:50We saw the kiosk.
36:51We reported
36:51from ground zero
36:52in Libya.
36:53We reported
36:54from ground zero
36:55in Sri Lanka.
36:57Is there a
36:58template that's
36:59being followed?
37:00Is that template
37:00being tried
37:01in India?
37:02That's a question
37:03that systematically
37:04needs to be
37:05answered and
37:06answered now,
37:07investigated,
37:08not just political
37:09innuendos,
37:10but hard action.
37:11And I wanted you
37:12to see all those
37:13images before I
37:14come back to
37:14Mr. Bhargav
37:15on the bigger
37:16losses that traders
37:17are talking about.
37:19The Confederation
37:20of All India
37:21Traders,
37:22CAIT,
37:23in its report
37:25says farmers
37:26agitation in
37:26Delhi NCR
37:27caused a business
37:28loss of nearly
37:2950,000 crore
37:31rupees.
37:32The traders
37:32body disclosed
37:33that same
37:33January 2021
37:35urging,
37:36they urged farmers
37:37to call off
37:37their agitation.
37:38The PhD
37:39Chamber of
37:39Commerce and
37:40Industry
37:40on the 31st
37:41of December
37:422020 said
37:43the agitation
37:44more than
37:4570,000 crore
37:46rupees were
37:47lost in Q3
37:482021 due to
37:49disruption in
37:50supply chain
37:50and day-to-day
37:51economic activity.
37:52Sir, can
37:54the traders
37:54continue to
37:55take this
37:56one onslaught
37:57after the
37:58other?
37:58What is the
37:59traders request
38:01to the government
38:02and to the
38:02opposition,
38:03Mr. Bhargav?
38:05Sir, our request
38:07to authorities
38:08is very clear.
38:09No protest
38:10should be allowed
38:11in and around
38:12Conant Place.
38:13We have suffered
38:14heavily and
38:15the season is
38:16on.
38:17If we don't
38:17recover our
38:18losses, we will
38:19not be making
38:20any profit in
38:21the future.
38:22So, hence,
38:23all protests
38:24should be taken
38:24away to
38:25sites which
38:26have been
38:26offered by
38:27the government
38:28whether it is
38:28Ramni Lagrao,
38:29Burari or
38:30the compound in
38:31East Delhi.
38:32Because we need
38:33to recover
38:33ourselves, very
38:34frankly.
38:35We are going
38:35through a very
38:36tough time and
38:37some strict
38:38actions need
38:39to be taken.
38:41Oh, absolutely.
38:42Beyond the line,
38:44then action
38:45needs to be taken.
38:46Vijesh Kalappa,
38:46do you agree
38:47with what the
38:48traders say?
38:49There are
38:50designated spots.
38:51Go to those
38:52designated spots
38:53and protest.
38:54In the past,
38:55it was Ramlila
38:55Maidan.
38:56Right now,
38:56of course,
38:57traders around
38:57Ramlila Maidan
38:58are also saying
38:59please don't
38:59protest here.
39:00Go to Burari.
39:01How do you
39:02read that
39:02situation, sir?
39:04First is,
39:05Gaurav,
39:05I'd like,
39:06you know,
39:07the government
39:08has the onus
39:09to ensure that
39:10protests don't
39:11take place in
39:11the first place.
39:12I think the
39:13first thing is
39:14that government
39:15must step
39:15forward to
39:16speak to
39:17protesters before
39:18a protest is
39:19actually launched.
39:20Right?
39:21So, one,
39:21the onus is
39:22always on
39:23government to
39:24continuously have
39:25a dialogue with
39:26those people who
39:27have a genuine
39:28grievance.
39:29Right?
39:30So, this is
39:30something which
39:31the government
39:31has completely
39:32lost sight of.
39:33Second part is
39:34that when there
39:35is a protest,
39:37how do you
39:37regulate?
39:38You get good
39:39officers,
39:40officers who
39:41are able to
39:41regulate the
39:42system.
39:42You know,
39:44when protesters
39:44come,
39:45you know that,
39:46look,
39:47this is a
39:47peaceful group,
39:48they are not
39:49going to
39:49trouble.
39:50So, you
39:50allow them in
39:51certain places.
39:52Then, this
39:53kind of
39:53knee-jerk reaction
39:54saying that,
39:55look, we
39:55allow Jantar
39:57Mantar,
39:57but no,
39:57no, not on
39:58this occasion.
39:59On this
39:59occasion, we
40:00are going to
40:00change the
40:01protest side.
40:03I think this
40:03kind of
40:04knee-jerk reaction
40:05also doesn't
40:06inspire confidence.
40:08Then, the
40:08fourth thing is
40:09that you already
40:10have a situation
40:11where the
40:12DMRC chief,
40:13the chief
40:13secretary,
40:14the commissioner
40:15of police have
40:16all apologized to
40:17the Supreme
40:17Court and
40:18said, sorry.
40:19Look, we
40:19were in a very
40:20craven manner,
40:21they have gone
40:21and said that,
40:23look, we were
40:23not able to,
40:24you know,
40:24take things,
40:25do things
40:26properly.
40:27Now, point is,
40:29why did Mr.
40:29Amit Shah not
40:31apologize?
40:31He also should
40:32have gone and
40:33said,
40:33Tuhin Sina wants
40:34to respond.
40:35Tuhin Sina,
40:37the handling
40:37according to
40:38the Congress
40:38Party was poor.
40:40Should the
40:40protestant have
40:41happened,
40:41should have
40:41reached out
40:42first and
40:43why did you
40:43apologize?
40:44Why did the
40:44authorities
40:45apologize?
40:48Mr.
40:50Kalappa,
40:50Mr.
40:51Kalappa,
40:51you must realize
40:52that Rahul Gandhi
40:53has killed the
40:54scope for a
40:54dialogue.
40:55When you
40:56browbeat the
40:57judiciary for
40:57which he was
40:58reprimanded
40:59yesterday, I
40:59mean, I don't
41:00think any
41:01LOP in the
41:02past has had
41:03the, you
41:03know, no,
41:05no, he was
41:05absolutely
41:07reprimanded.
41:07He had to
41:07explain his
41:08conduct.
41:08Why did he
41:09reach the
41:09quota at
41:106 p.m.?
41:11Even
41:12otherwise,
41:12even
41:13otherwise,
41:14even
41:15otherwise,
41:15even
41:16otherwise,
41:17if you
41:17have, you
41:18know, even
41:18otherwise, you
41:19know, you
41:20are a lawyer
41:20of Rajesh
41:21Kalappa, you
41:21are a seasoned
41:22lawyer, you
41:22would know
41:23that, you
41:23know, there
41:23is a sanitized
41:24distinction
41:25between the
41:26four pillars
41:26of our
41:27democracy.
41:27For an
41:28LOP to
41:28seek a
41:29meeting with
41:29the chief
41:30justice of
41:31India on
41:32a case which
41:32is subjudice
41:33is unprecedented.
41:35If that is
41:36not an attempt
41:36to brawbeat
41:37the judiciary,
41:38then what
41:38is?
41:39You know,
41:39coming back
41:40to Leha,
41:41Bora,
41:41Gaurav,
41:41you know,
41:42did you recall
41:43Rahul Gandhi
41:44in 2000?
41:45Yes, of course.
41:46Have you,
41:47have you read
41:47the letter
41:48of CGI?
41:49Have you read
41:50the letter
41:50of CGI?
41:51It's rather
41:52embarrassing
41:52that he has
41:53to explain
41:53to you the
41:54distinction
41:54between four
41:55pillars of
41:56democracy.
41:56He advised
41:57you to file
41:58a petition
41:58instead of
41:59a meeting.
41:59And in
42:00fact,
42:00we have
42:00been asking
42:01you to
42:01file a
42:01petition for
42:02the last
42:02one year.
42:03But Rahul
42:03Gandhi does
42:04not have
42:04the evidence
42:05and that
42:05is why he
42:06was scared
42:07that he
42:07will have
42:07to once
42:08again run
42:08away,
42:09which is
42:09why he
42:09delayed the
42:10petition for
42:10the last
42:11one year.
42:12And now
42:12coming back to
42:13Neha Bora,
42:13Gaurav,
42:14you know,
42:14allow me 30
42:15seconds.
42:16You know,
42:17in 2016,
42:18when Omar
42:19Khalid raced
42:20pro, you
42:20know,
42:20anti-India
42:21slogans,
42:21Rahul Gandhi
42:22rushed to
42:22JNU to
42:23defend her.
42:24Today,
42:24Neha Bora,
42:25by her own
42:25confession,
42:26is the
42:26biggest fan
42:27of Omar
42:28Khalid.
42:28Why is it
42:29that Rahul
42:30Gandhi selects
42:31these
42:31anti-nationals?
42:32What is
42:32his compulsion?
42:33Sir,
42:34that's a
42:34very grave
42:34charge to
42:35level.
42:35People may
42:36dissent,
42:36but just
42:37for dissenting,
42:38they cannot
42:38be called
42:39anti-national,
42:40sir.
42:42Why, sir?
42:42Why do you
42:43not find a
42:43charge sheet?
42:44No, no,
42:44anybody,
42:45you know,
42:45you've heard
42:46her speeches,
42:46you've heard
42:47her call for
42:48Bangladesh,
42:48you yourself
42:49played,
42:49you yourself
42:50played,
42:51you yourself
42:52played out
42:52the visuals
42:53of Bangladesh
42:53if somebody
42:54is fantasizing
42:55that kind
42:55of a bloody
42:56regime change
42:57takeover over
42:58here,
42:59what else
42:59can I call
42:59her?
43:00You know,
43:00I can't be
43:01a gentleman
43:01like Mr.
43:02Singh.
43:02Mr. Singh
43:03said that
43:04the protesters
43:04have no
43:05credibility.
43:07Fair enough.
43:07Let me give
43:08the closing
43:08comments to
43:10Dr.
43:10Vikram Singh.
43:10I have a
43:10following,
43:11which I'm
43:11sure she
43:12has some
43:12following.
43:13Okay.
43:14Dr.
43:14Vikram Singh,
43:15how do you
43:16read this
43:17being inspired
43:19by Bangladesh?
43:20How do you
43:21read a very
43:22prominent senior
43:23advocate Prashant
43:24Bhushan saying
43:25of course
43:25the aim
43:27is regime
43:27change.
43:28Of course
43:28that's also
43:29a democratic
43:30right,
43:30he clarified.
43:32Gaurav ji,
43:33Prashant Bhushan ji
43:34is far too
43:34senior to
43:35live in a
43:36midsummer
43:36pipes dream
43:37but the fact
43:38of the matter
43:38is that
43:39you've heard
43:39of Greta
43:40Thunberg
43:40and the
43:40toolkit
43:41and this
43:41is all
43:42a part
43:42of a
43:43very devious
43:43and malicious
43:44toolkit
43:45which is
43:45being implemented
43:46on the roads
43:47now.
43:47There are
43:48agitations
43:49and there are
43:49agitations
43:49that have
43:50legitimate
43:50grounds
43:50and there
43:51are agitations
43:52that are thrust
43:52upon the
43:53people
43:53and on the
43:54streets
43:54to weaponize
43:55their agitation
43:55and this is
43:56exactly what
43:57is happening.
43:58No amount
43:58of dialogues
43:59will ever
43:59going to
44:00satiate the
44:01agitators
44:02because they
44:02have a fixed
44:03agenda and
44:04they will try
44:04to reach and
44:05attain that
44:05agenda
44:06whatever be
44:07the negotiations
44:07therefore the
44:08only solution
44:09is perhaps
44:10faithful implementation
44:12of the rule
44:12of law
44:13with malice
44:14towards none.
44:14We'll let
44:16that be the
44:16last word
44:17for everybody
44:18whether in
44:19the government
44:20or the
44:20opposition
44:21or the
44:21civil society
44:22let's all
44:23together
44:24always
44:25continue to
44:26keep
44:26India first.
44:28Another day
44:29another killing
44:30in Punjab
44:3141 year old
44:32Bikram Jeet
44:33Singh
44:34is dead
44:35two others
44:36critically injured
44:3815 people
44:39have now
44:39been either
44:41taken into
44:41custody
44:42or are being
44:43questioned
44:43some arrested
44:44and this
44:45comes very
44:45close on the
44:46heels of
44:47the Jota
44:47murder.
44:48The latest
44:49killing has
44:49intensified questions
44:50over Punjab's
44:52law and order
44:53and questions
44:54being raised
44:55about drugs
44:57and the
44:58mafia having
44:59access to
45:00weapons.
45:00Our Punjab
45:01Bureau gets
45:02you this report.
45:23another day
45:25another killing
45:26in Punjab.
45:30in Batala's
45:31Mahdi Pandvan village
45:32a confrontation
45:33has ended
45:34in bloodshed.
45:3540 year old
45:36Bikram Jeet
45:37Singh is dead
45:37while two
45:38others Nishant
45:39Singh and
45:39Gurmukh Singh
45:40are critically
45:40injured.
45:42The three were
45:43attacked with
45:43sharp edged
45:44weapons by a
45:45group of
45:4510 to 15
45:46people.
45:47The trigger
45:47a stolen
45:48mobile phone.
45:49According to
45:50the injured
45:50and their family
45:51members the
45:52accused were
45:52allegedly involved
45:53in drug
45:53consumption and
45:54sale in the
45:55village.
45:55When the
45:56victims went
45:56to question
45:57them over
45:57a stolen
45:58phone the
45:59confrontation
45:59turned violent.
46:00The police
46:01have registered
46:01a case
46:02against 15
46:02people but
46:04deny any
46:04drug links.
46:40And this is
46:41not an isolated
46:42flashpoint.
46:43The latest
46:43killing comes
46:44close on the
46:45heels of the
46:45Parvinder Singh
46:46Jotha murder
46:47which was linked
46:48to a confrontation
46:48over alleged
46:49drug sales.
46:53The repeated
46:54bloodshed has
46:55now turned
46:55up the
46:56political heat.
46:57The BJP is
46:58targeting the
46:58AAP government
46:59over Punjab's
47:00law and order.
47:02Home Minister
47:03Amit Shah and
47:03BJP chief
47:04Nitin Nabeen
47:04have raised
47:05questions over
47:05the state
47:06security situation.
47:10A man is
47:11dead, two are
47:12critically injured.
47:13The big
47:13question, how
47:15many more lives
47:15will be lost
47:16before the drug
47:17networks are
47:18dismantled?
47:2950 years after
47:30Dhirubhai Ambani
47:31took Reliance
47:32to the public,
47:33the Ambani
47:34empire is now
47:35preparing for
47:36another landmark
47:38moment.
47:39Jio Platforms
47:40is gearing up
47:41for what could
47:42become India's
47:44biggest ever
47:44IPO and
47:46according to
47:46Bloomberg,
47:47Reliance is
47:48actually reaching
47:49out to its
47:49nearly 4.2
47:51lakh strong
47:52workforce to
47:53build investor
47:55participation.
47:56So with a
47:5730,000 crore
47:58rupee plus
47:59offering on the
48:00horizon, the
48:01spotlight very
48:02clearly now is
48:03on Mukesh Ambani's
48:05next generation
48:06and whether
48:07Jio's market
48:09debut can
48:10reshape India's
48:11corporate pecking
48:13order.
48:2050 years after
48:22Dhirubhai Ambani
48:23began transforming
48:24ordinary Indians
48:25into shareholders,
48:26the Reliance
48:27empire is
48:27preparing for
48:28another landmark
48:29moment.
48:31And this time
48:32Mukesh Ambani is
48:33reportedly mobilising
48:35the group's vast
48:36workforce to help
48:38build momentum
48:39for India's
48:40biggest ever IPO.
48:44According to
48:45Bloomberg,
48:46Reliance has
48:47reached out to
48:47employees across
48:48its nearly 4.2
48:49lakh strong
48:50workforce,
48:51encouraging them
48:52to consider
48:53investing in
48:54Jio platforms,
48:56while October
48:57salaries have
48:57reportedly been
48:58released around
48:5915 days early,
49:01although employees
49:02were not given a
49:03reason for the
49:04early payment.
49:06Doubtreach,
49:07according to the
49:08report,
49:08has even extended
49:09to checking
49:09whether employees
49:10and their families
49:11have DMAT and
49:12trading accounts
49:13in what appears
49:15to be an unusually
49:16wide effort to
49:17build investor
49:18participation ahead
49:19of the 30,200
49:21crore offering.
49:25Jio's own
49:26eligible employees
49:27have a reserved
49:27quota and a
49:285% discount,
49:30while eligible
49:30Reliance
49:31Industries shareholders
49:32have a separate
49:34reservation,
49:35giving the
49:35group's existing
49:36investor base a
49:37direct stake in
49:39this new chapter.
49:40The numbers are
49:42as ambitious as
49:43the strategy,
49:44with Jio seeking
49:45to raise as
49:46much as 30,213
49:48crore rupees at
49:49a price band of
49:501,065 to 1,119
49:54per share,
49:55potentially valuing
49:56the business at
49:57more than 10
49:58lakh crore.
49:59With anchor
49:59investors getting
50:00their first
50:01opportunity on
50:02October 19th and
50:03public subscriptions
50:04opening on October
50:0521st, the countdown
50:07has begun.
50:09But this is more
50:10than a fundraising
50:11exercise, because
50:13Jio's stock market
50:14debut is also
50:15emerging as a
50:16defining moment for
50:17the third generation
50:18of the Ambani family,
50:20with Akash and
50:21Isha Ambani
50:22stepping forward to
50:23explain how Reliance's
50:24digital business
50:26intends to grow.
50:29We built a technology
50:31platform for India,
50:33from India, but
50:35leads global standards
50:36in just the last 10
50:38years.
50:39Our father.
50:40And while Akash is
50:41selling the scale and
50:42future of India's
50:43digital connectivity,
50:44his twin Isha is
50:46emphasizing the
50:47financial discipline
50:48that must support
50:50that ambition.
50:53Financial prudence is
50:55embedded in our DNA.
50:56In 2019, my father
50:58made a commitment to
50:59all Reliance
51:00shareholders.
51:01He said that in
51:022021, Reliance
51:04industries would be
51:05net debt free.
51:062020 came, COVID
51:08came along with it,
51:09and along with that
51:10came a global
51:11slowdown.
51:12And yet, nine months
51:14ahead of schedule,
51:15that promise was
51:16delivered on.
51:18And the implications
51:19could go well beyond
51:20Jio itself, with the
51:22listing of the company
51:23likely to make the
51:24Reliance group India's
51:26largest business
51:27conglomerate,
51:28potentially overtaking
51:30the Tata group.
51:33The RIL group, after
51:38Jio's listing, will be
51:40India's largest
51:42conglomerate, BASE's
51:45listed market cap.
51:47There is a powerful
51:48historical parallel here.
51:50Because in 1977,
51:52Dhirubai Ambani took
51:54Reliance textile
51:55industries to the
51:56public, attracting
51:57tens of thousands of
51:59shareholders and
52:00helping bring equity
52:01investing out of the
52:03exclusive clubs of
52:04Dallal Street and into
52:05ordinary Indian
52:06households.
52:08That issue was
52:09oversubscribed more
52:10than seven times, and
52:12nearly five decades
52:13later, the family is
52:14once again looking to
52:15India's investing
52:16public to help
52:18write its next
52:19growth story.
52:21Bureau Report,
52:23Business Today
52:24Television.
52:31So we'll be tracking
52:31the story very closely,
52:32but that is all I have
52:33for you on India
52:35First this evening.
52:36Many thanks for
52:36watching.
52:37News and updates
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