00:00Listen, it went the way it went last night, and I do think, like, it's so funny, maybe some of
00:05my, I don't want to blame Steven Vogt for this, or like the general management, because I know it's not
00:10just him.
00:11Part of my thinking with this is, I am going into an offseason where until I hear that the Seattle
00:17Mariners have hired some other manager, I'm going to be living in my fears with that.
00:21I can tell you're going to be living in your fears with it.
00:24Should I be living more in my fears?
00:25Yes.
00:26I'm so not with this.
00:27The precedent isn't really set across baseball history for someone that makes the LCS in two of the last three
00:34seasons to then leave for the Mariners job.
00:36It just doesn't exist.
00:38Why can't his family, by the way, I understand he's living in Cleveland and his roommate is his bench coach
00:43and all that other stuff that comes with it, but like, why is his family so hesitant to move to
00:48Cleveland?
00:48Because they're entrenched where they're from.
00:51You're smiling when you say that.
00:53No, that's just my face.
00:54I can't help but my face does.
00:55I can tell when you smile and when you don't believe what you say.
00:59Mark Hatch, am I smiling?
01:00He did smile when he said that.
01:01There's a bit of a smirk.
01:02That was the smirk.
01:02The smirk when he said that.
01:03Well, no, because I think the outrage that Stephen Vogt might want to go home or that his family might
01:09prefer to live in Washington is a ridiculous outrage.
01:14Like, I know Lima was baiting everyone today with what he was doing.
01:17What did Lima do?
01:18Oh, Lima during the Castervins thing was like, oh, they can't move here?
01:23That kind of thing.
01:24Oh, when he said something to the effect of like, what is she, the governor of Washington?
01:27Yeah, yeah.
01:28Which, by the way, the police chief in Seattle lives like, it's like nine months out of the year in
01:32Chicago.
01:33It's like a real fraudulent thing that's going on in Seattle.
01:36And he's not helping out in Chicago?
01:37No.
01:38He's like in charge of the Seattle Police Department, but he spends just as much, if not more time in
01:42Chicago than he does in Seattle.
01:44That's right.
01:44He basically has been like a hired out police chief for different cities.
01:48So he like spends more time in Chicago than he does the cities that he's supposed to be in charge
01:51of in the police force.
01:52I mean, I've heard that there could be governors in certain states that are from other states that aren't really
01:57from here.
01:57I just don't know.
01:58I've heard that's a thing that could happen.
01:59I mean, I understand missing your family.
02:01I really do.
02:02I empathize with that, but if like, if he really missed his family, I don't know.
02:06I don't want to, maybe his wife doesn't want to go on all the road trips.
02:09Maybe she doesn't want to live here.
02:10Maybe that's his reality.
02:12If that's your reason that you're out, okay, fine.
02:14I'll accept it.
02:15But I just have a hard time thinking that's going to happen.
02:18He put his entire baseball managing career in jeopardy.
02:21Here is Anthony Castrovince on with the morning boys today talking about vote and the idea of going to Seattle.
02:27You can't get an honest answer from him about that, but I do know just from what I've observed in
02:33his time here, I mean, it kills this guy to be away from his family.
02:36It really does.
02:36You know, his family's out in Washington, and so from that standpoint, it makes all the sense in the world.
02:41Now he's under contract here, and, you know, that's complicated.
02:44But we have seen manager trades before, so I don't rule it out personally.
02:47And that's not to be reported or aggregated as, you know, Anthony Castrovince says the Stephen vote is leaving.
02:52It's not that at all.
02:53I'm just saying I don't rule it out just because of the personal element there.
02:57It's a very real thing to be away from your family for a better part of the baseball season.
03:00But having said all that, they've got a good thing going here, and it's a great working relationship between vote
03:05and the front office.
03:06They've had nothing but success.
03:07I don't know the answer to your question.
03:09I would just say that I can't possibly rule it out just knowing the personal element.
03:13This reminds me when Bill Callahan went to Tennessee to coach with his son.
03:18And there were things beyond just wanting to go coach with his son that were at play.
03:22There definitely were things beyond that.
03:24Yes, correct.
03:24And so I don't – do I think that this is a significant reason why Stephen vote would consider a
03:30much worse job?
03:31Yes, Jerry DiPoto is a bad GM.
03:34I know that they were in the ALCS last year.
03:36That's not a good organization.
03:37They spend more, but they are – I mean, Jerry DiPoto and A.J. Preller are like Siamese twins of
03:43guys that just do bird brain bleep all the time.
03:46Please see the Josh Naylor contract.
03:48But I can understand that being a significant driver.
03:53There has to be another angle to this.
03:55And I – like even with the Bill Callahan stuff, Bill Callahan wasn't happy with the direction the Browns were
04:01taking,
04:02what they were trying to do on Kevin Stefanski's staff, firing Alex Van Pelt.
04:06That was a huge reason.
04:08If things had gone differently, the Browns could have convinced Bill Callahan to stay.
04:12That was part – that was smoothed over by saying, you know, he wants to go coach with his son.
04:18Yeah, he did.
04:19He also wanted things to go differently with the Browns.
04:21And had those things gone differently, I don't think Bill Callahan would have left.
04:25I can't help but wonder if that's the same thing at play here.
04:29Got to be.
04:29And again, I don't want to be dismissive to the idea that he wants to be around his family.
04:33It's just I – your read on this is exactly my read as well.
04:36There's something else going on that we're not privy to if he ends up leaving this job,
04:41this job that has basically made him one of the game's best managers.
04:44He is one of the highest paid managers.
04:45He has one of the highest winning percentages, et cetera.
04:49Everything you want to go through, it has made him one of the game's best managers.
04:52He wouldn't just leave that because he wants to be home with his family.
04:55I just – I just don't see that.
04:57Now, with that being said, I'm not just on Vote Watch.
05:01I'm on Willis Watch too.
05:02I think people have forgotten Carl Willis almost retired last offseason,
05:06and I know that the Guardians pitching factory goes beyond just Carl Willis.
05:12I do want to find out how much of it is on Carl Willis
05:14and how much of it's on the head of pitching for the organization.
05:18Yeah, that's fair.
05:19There's a lot of different – it goes beyond coaches even,
05:22just thinking about what do we do with Stephen Kwan this offseason.
05:25Is Kwan going to eventually get traded or moved?
05:28There's like seven different players we could discuss.
05:30I think the reality is, Nick, the team is going to look drastically different.
05:33But if you made me guess whether or not it's going to look drastically different at the top,
05:37I would say no.
05:38Now, that being said, the Rays advanced the World Series.
05:41I'm rooting for the Brewers, not because of anything the Rays did in the series,
05:45because I feel a kinsmanship with Brewers fans.
05:48We know Dan Mennegan here is a Brewers fan.
05:51My buddy Sitton's wife, Anna, is a big Brewers fan,
05:53and they've been waiting since 1982.
05:55It's an organization that's made one World Series in 55 years?
06:00No, no, no.
06:00Almost 60 years as an organization in baseball.
06:03I want that for those good people of Wisconsin.
06:06But Junior Karen Manero might have given people a reason to go ahead
06:11and root for the Brewers beyond just Midwest love there.
06:14Here is him, courtesy of TNT, talking about – giving a little kudos there to Tampa.
06:25All right.
06:27I recognized how funny that was.
06:30As much as it also made me say bleep Junior Kamenero in the moment,
06:34I was also like, that is a very funny troll.
06:37Now, was that a troll only because LeBron Cleveland, or was it a troll –
06:42I mean, like, did he in the moment recognize that he was doing it against the Cleveland team
06:46and it was that intentional, or do you feel like he just – he had the mic,
06:50he didn't really know what he was going to say, and that's what came out,
06:52because sometimes that's what people say when they're excited.
06:54I guarantee you there's a 0% chance he just happened upon Tampa, this is for you.
06:59I'm not going to say –
07:00Not fell on it, but, like, the idea that he did it because LeBron and the Cleveland connection,
07:04or, like, if this had been a random other team, would this have also come out?
07:09No, I don't think so.
07:10I think that this was specific to the Cleveland thing.
07:12I want to see the room on this one and whether or not –
07:14because I saw some people online trying to give him the benefit of the doubt
07:17to be like, no, this is just – this is just what happened to come out spur of the moment.
07:20It's like, no, no, you guys saw him take 47 minutes to round the bases, right?
07:25Like, you saw him have what might have been the most pimped home run trot celebration
07:30I think I've ever seen in my life.
07:31The beginning was fine.
07:32It was the end that pissed me off.
07:34Why did it piss you off?
07:35Because he was five feet from home – no, no, no, no.
07:39No, he was five feet from home plate.
07:40He had already taken the longest curtain call in history, and then he's like,
07:43you know what, let me milk this for about 10 seconds more.
07:47I'm pretty sure when Petey Halpin put his bat up into the sky so high
07:50they had to reroute planes around it, nobody said a word.
07:53Yeah, and let me ask you, how long did it take him to get around the bases?
07:56Pretty sure he got to do whatever he wanted.
07:57Did it take him a full election cycle to get around the bases?
08:00Oh, so it's where we do our celebration that we're now –
08:02I think duration of cycle.
08:03Listen, that's where we now drove the line.
08:05No, no, no.
08:06Turn us into the Dominican League.
08:08I don't care.
08:09I will break whatever you want.
08:10Take as long as you want.
08:11Bat flip as high as you want.
08:13I'm not going to gatekeep that.
08:14I was cool with it until he got there.
08:17No, I was.
08:17You weren't cool with it.
08:18No, you weren't there.
08:19Don't lie.
08:19You just gave Petey Halpin the excuse and everything, and then you said junior came in.
08:23Oh, but near home plate.
08:24Yes.
08:25That's where I lose it.
08:26Yes.
08:26You've already pimped the home run.
08:28What a disgrace to the game.
08:28You stopped pimping as you started running.
08:31I've never said disgrace to the game.
08:33I said he was a jackass.
08:34You watched Halpin bat flip to the sky.
08:36I want one in his right ass cheek the next time he's up at the plate.
08:39That's ridiculous.
08:40You get to do whatever you want.
08:41This is baseball in 2026.
08:43No, you can't do whatever you want.
08:44You can take 37 hours.
08:46There are rules.
08:46You can turn into a snail going around the bases if you want.
08:49As long as you get there.
08:50No.
08:51What do I care?
08:52I can't watch our guys celebrate and be like, this is the greatest thing ever.
08:56Build him a statue around that and then turn around and be like, make baseball fun again.
09:01I can't do that.
09:02He took the make baseball fun again movement and he ruined it.
09:06He ruined it by pimping it for the extra 15 seconds at the end of it.
09:11The only lame thing about the entire sequence of events was the ball barely cleared the wall.
09:16That was the only lame part.
09:18That was the only part where it's like, geez, Junior, you really didn't hit that one like 450.
09:22You hit that one like 320 and you acted like it went 450.
09:25But you get to do whatever you want, whenever you want.
09:27And I'm not going to gatekeep your celebration.
09:29It is going to make it a hell of a lot funnier when they lose to the Brewers in five
09:32games.
09:33Well, this is how you create enemies.
09:35Yeah.
09:35I mean, this is how you do that.
09:36Oh, not just Junior Caminero.
09:38Yandy Diaz.
09:39Richie Palacios.
09:40Or a farmer that is Yandy Diaz calling his shot and then getting it right.
09:43Yeah.
09:44By the way, Yandy, your facial hair looks stupid.
09:46Can somebody say that to him?
09:47I know they don't actually watch a lot of baseball in Tampa.
09:50Can someone remind him that he looks like the weirdo from Hunger Games?
09:54The Wes Bentley character?
09:55You don't look cool.
09:56You look like an ass clown.
09:58But here's the thing.
09:59I can even...
09:59Yandy has the biggest gripe of anyone.
10:02Yandy was never fully given a chance in Cleveland.
10:05And I think it was because Tito just didn't like him for whatever reason.
10:08No, then he goes to Tampa.
10:09One of my favorite stories.
10:10And he goes, oh, yeah, they taught me to swing up on the baseball.
10:13Oh, novel concept.
10:14Really?
10:15Baseball.
10:15How about that?
10:15Could have used that the last five or six years.
10:17Nobody in the Guardians hitting world could think swing up on the baseball?
10:20Swing up with the bat?
10:21Nobody?
10:22But Richie Palacios.
10:23Who is this knob?
10:25I mean, listen, Junior Caminero hit 40-plus home runs this year.
10:29The guy's going to be an MVP in baseball, a candidate for the next 10 years.
10:32I'll accept some modicum of trolling for him because of the stupid Tobias Myers trade.
10:37Yandy Diaz.
10:38Valid beef.
10:39Stupid facial hair, but valid beef.
10:42Richie Palacios?
10:43He's going to run to the dugout.
10:45Oh, it's like you're a middle infielder, and you're probably going to be playing in the
10:48Mexican leagues in six months.
10:49Shut the hell up.
10:50Yeah, he got hyped.
10:51He got hyped.
10:52Now, if I could throw 93 miles an hour, he would plunk.
10:57Really?
10:57That'd be the response?
10:59Yeah.
11:00Dump ball!
11:02And you're just screaming at him as he goes around the bases?
