00:00It's funny. There are so many parallels to the man we started talking about, Ben Crenshaw.
00:04When you look at the science with which we approach putting sometimes, you know, from zero, zero torque mallets and
00:12aim point, all this stuff.
00:13And you look at a guy like Ben Crenshaw still puts it pretty good with the very old school putter
00:16going off a field and just the parallels between what golf once stood for and the way we are now.
00:22You said something there a second ago that I love to hear you talk more about, which is when you
00:26expose people to the game of golf, it just takes a whole of you enjoy it.
00:30What are your memories? The first time you got exposed to golf, the way it took a hold of you.
00:34Well, the first time I was, it was in the Second World War.
00:37And so we had team sports, but then by the Second World War, you couldn't gather a group of kids
00:43together.
00:44I played a lot of sports and I love basketball and these things, but you couldn't gather enough people to
00:50play.
00:51So it became a game that you would go out and play on your own.
00:56So it's both and, it's a sport that you can, but when you got there, you would interface with people
01:02and connect.
01:03So I think it's a both and sport.
01:05I've played these other sports.
01:07You've played more than I have, but most of the other sports, there's some dimension, there's something about golf over
01:13basketball, football, soccer, lacrosse, these other things.
01:17And it, it seems to me has a both internal, they're all sports, but internally, it seems that golf has
01:24some magic.
01:25It's an X factor or whatever it is.
01:28It captures people.
01:28Too many people are captured by it that are exposed to it.
01:31And that was what old Tom Morris in the 1880s, it was about.
01:36Another thing about old Tom Morris, Charlotte people would get, 10% of the golfers back then were women.
01:41By the Second World War, I mean, by the First World War, 25%.
01:46Today it's 30%.
01:47So it's also not just a game for men.
01:50It's a game that includes women, men, young, old.
01:57It's, it's, it's, so it's a game that can be played from a young age.
02:02I started when I was nine or 10 years old and until I'm 92, still playing away.
02:11Still trying as hard as I can.
02:12Don't get any better.
02:14Pretty inspiring stuff.
02:15I don't know that any of the grandkids has beat you in a match yet.
02:17So we're still, we're still thinking.
02:20Here's where I want to end, Pop, is you're about to, I've, I've, I've heard you give many speeches,
02:25many amazing speeches in the course of your life and my life.
02:28And you're about to give another one here, the Langley tonight.
02:30Just leave us with what, what, what's the sort of message you're going to bring tonight?
02:34And, and just the importance, because, you know, the way you want to address this group of people honoring Jim
02:39Langley.
02:40I think that, uh, uh, Jim Langley, uh, and, and when he, after he retired golf week, uh, did a
02:49whole storyline on Jim, his life and everything else.
02:55And John Steinbreder was the wonderful golf writer interviewed me and, and I'll kind of stand by what I said.
03:02And he asked me, what was my opinion of Jim?
03:04And I said, well, I think that Jim lived a life of joy.
03:08And I, joy is different from happiness.
03:10Joy is acceptance.
03:12It's being content where you are.
03:14It is a life of giving.
03:16We also know the ancient of old said that, that, uh, that pain is inevitable.
03:24It really is in life pain, but the proof of what it is, is misery is optional.
03:32So, so Jim lived a life from 87 on of pain.
03:39Now pain can't be willed away.
03:41I don't think you can pray it away.
03:43I don't, I don't think pain is pain.
03:45But then I think he muted that somewhat again by this life of joy that led him into giving.
03:52He was always, uh, helping other people.
03:56Uh, and so to me, I think that's a great lesson that we can all learn from, uh, Jim's life.
