00:00a different game well we would sort of we've sort of been talking leading up to the conversation on
00:03air here and and we've been you know talking around the topic of what you can do to improve
00:10your life and this is something a lot of people sometimes we talk about on air are are sort of
00:14reticent to embrace or they don't quite know how to approach it i think everyone wants to do what
00:20they can to improve their lives but they think of it in a more tactile um you know i'd like
00:25more
00:25money i'd like this i'd like a better house but um you had an epiphany and please if i'm getting
00:30this wrong it happened recently 20 well 2015 and i wrote down the quote because it stood out to me
00:37this this quote sort of had a shifting uh momentum for you and the quote is so much of our
00:42life takes
00:42place in our heads memory or imagination or interpretation or speculation that if i
00:47really want to change my life i might best begin by changing my mind and that and that's what did
00:54it for you that was it because i never gave any mind to my mind my body yes myself the
01:01superficial
01:01self the egoic self yes but to change your mind as a physical therapist trainer i could change bodies
01:08yeah i could change my body i could change my opinion but can you change your mind yeah and that
01:14made me
01:14delve into something that was so unfamiliar with me that i and then i didn't even know what was going
01:21on i
01:22was on the spiritual path and i didn't even know there was one you were not feeling you were feeling
01:26that um you there was there was an emptiness well you know what it was steve it was more uh
01:31i've never
01:32ever felt totally fulfilled i would feel fulfilled at times but there was always a sense of lack
01:38would come back and to the casual observer you're a man who's very accomplished yep but and people say
01:44well you're such a success well that's what you presume but if i was such a success then why would
01:50happiness not always be permanent yeah why would peace and love not always be permanent which it is but
01:57i didn't recognize
