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Bobby took us Below The Belt to break down how Dallas could navigate the upcoming trade deadline. They discussed the limited draft capital, targeting Maxx Crosby, packaging young players, and more.

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00:00The great Bobby Belt.
00:01Shoddy and Bobby just talking ball.
00:04Don't make me take off my belt.
00:06Don't make me take off my belt.
00:07Over to you, Bobby.
00:08How do we get that man some help?
00:10Let's talk about it here in Below the Belt,
00:12which is sponsored by D&M Leasing,
00:16dmautoleasing.com.
00:17Caleb Downs with the performance of his career
00:20to this point yesterday.
00:22Had the big sack, had the,
00:24had a couple really nice like form tackles,
00:27had the interception at the end.
00:28And Joe Hoyt from Dallas Morning News
00:29had tweeted a video already.
00:31The tape is already up at NFL Pro.
00:33He tweeted the video of the interception
00:35from like the Skycam view.
00:38Downs saw that the whole way.
00:39Like he knew exactly, he read that dead to rights,
00:42had that thing picked off from basically the snap.
00:45Did y'all think they were losing?
00:47Yes.
00:48Start of the possession, be honest.
00:49Yes.
00:50Yeah.
00:50Or wait, at the start of which one?
00:51The start of the Colts final one
00:52or the start of Dallas's to go down the field?
00:55The Colts.
00:56Colts, no.
00:57I thought they would get the stuff.
00:58I did think Dallas was,
00:59when they went up 23-20,
01:00I did not think Dallas was going to go down the field.
01:02And if they did,
01:03I figured Brandon Aubrey would probably miss the field goal.
01:06Which we were looking it up during the break.
01:07I used Sumer Sports' Sumer Brain application,
01:11which is their little research bot thing,
01:14which is pretty, pretty accurate actually.
01:16Like, I mean, it doesn't have the same sort of issues
01:18that a lot of other things do
01:19when it comes to those research bots.
01:20But per the Sumer Sports brand,
01:22Brandon Aubrey is 46.7% from 55-plus over the last two seasons.
01:28Out of kickers with at least five attempts,
01:30that is 18th out of 20 in the last two years.
01:33And the league average,
01:34if you separate Aubrey out from it,
01:36his 46.7% kicking from 55-plus,
01:40the league average is 66.3.
01:43He is 20 percentage points behind league average
01:45over the last two years from 55-plus.
01:49The Cowboys, at some point in time,
01:52now they paid Zeke and then found out,
01:54go with the just get a guy at running back,
01:56and they're going to end up being late to this as well
02:00with the kicker revolution.
02:01And didn't I tell you they were going to,
02:03the fans still defend him without question.
02:08There is nothing you can do wrong.
02:10First reply I got,
02:11because I just tweeted this stat,
02:11the very first reply I got.
02:13Three have been blocked though,
02:14and none of the kicks were low either.
02:16The one yesterday, the snap back, hit the ground.
02:19Great job by Anger to save it,
02:20but it may have been thrown off of Simon.
02:22His inconsistency also coincides with the arrival of Nick Sorensen.
02:26Okay, I like it.
02:27I mean, guys, I don't know what you want me to say.
02:28This is, this,
02:29if you're not going to just accept that he's not been as good,
02:32I don't know what to tell you.
02:33They're blaming the special teams coach?
02:34Yeah, who I don't think is like coaching up Aubrey a lot to like,
02:37hey, how are you doing this?
02:39Nick Sorensen was a safety when he played in the NFL.
02:41He's not coaching them on how to kick necessarily.
02:44Technique isn't his thing with the kicker?
02:45Like execution and battery and different things like that,
02:47but kicking specialists are a thing a lot of times for a reason
02:50in terms of those type of coaches.
02:52Sorensen's not going to be telling him,
02:53hey, I think you're swinging your leg wrong.
02:55That's not what he's going to be.
02:56So that's a silly thing.
02:58Unless you're going to say Sorensen being hired
03:00and the execution of the kick in general,
03:02the blocking and things like that hasn't been as good.
03:04You could put on him.
03:05Okay, maybe the blocking,
03:06but yeah, I would not think the kicking itself,
03:09we're saying could you get a third round pick for Aubrey?
03:11So I started looking around
03:13and I was trying to look at the trade value that's out there
03:19and we talked about selling things off.
03:21Trade deadline tomorrow.
03:22Yep, trade deadline tomorrow.
03:23Jerry Jones tomorrow ahead of it.
03:25Maybe he'll tip us off.
03:27I was taking a look at what resources does Dallas have
03:30because they don't have a lot of draft capital, obviously.
03:35So if they were going to make a trade for a player
03:37of any sort of significance,
03:38you're probably having to combine pick
03:44with maybe younger asset
03:47that another team would find valuable enough to invest in
03:50because then a team could go,
03:51okay, I get a pick and I get this player.
03:53Fine, that's worth a couple of there,
03:55which we're starting to see a little more player
03:56for player type of swaps in the NFL.
03:59And so when we look at it,
04:00obviously George Pickens is a big piece.
04:02I don't think they're going to move him.
04:03And if you're trying to move somebody
04:05to maximize your chance to be competitive this year,
04:08moving Pickens probably doesn't make a lot of sense.
04:10Moving Porter doesn't make sense.
04:12You just traded for him.
04:14Instead of that, you don't have a lot of young pieces
04:17that you're probably ready to just say,
04:18all right, let me see if I can move him and get something.
04:21But I did come up with three that I think have some level of value
04:27when combined with a draft pick.
04:29So if you throw a draft pick in and throw this player in
04:33and you call up a team and say,
04:34hey, can I get this guy?
04:35You're maybe not going to get Max Crosby.
04:37But if you say a fourth in this player,
04:39maybe you get somebody who genuinely can help you out.
04:41What would you guys offer for Crosby right now?
04:43Where would you draw the line?
04:44Choppy, are you just like,
04:45they'd have to take a third?
04:48They'd have to give him away.
04:49Yeah, it's nothing against Max.
04:51Max is a really good player.
04:52I just don't think this team is in any...
04:54So if they said a second...
04:55In a vacuum or for this team?
04:57And what they have as their resources?
04:58This team by tomorrow.
05:01Yeah, it'd have to be a second.
05:02I don't think you can give up a first.
05:03I mean, you literally can't give up your first next year.
05:06And you don't have a second.
05:08Oh, yeah, you don't have a second either.
05:09No, he said it'd have to be the second the next year,
05:11which they're probably not going to take.
05:12I don't get it.
05:13Because you gave up the second for Porter.
05:15It'd be a 28 second?
05:18Or that's the only second they have,
05:19or a 28 first.
05:21I'd do a 28 second.
05:22Look, I don't...
05:23Yeah, which they wouldn't say,
05:25because they say that's a third.
05:26Right.
05:27What if it was just Pickens?
05:28I don't know how that money all works.
05:30That makes a lot of sense.
05:32I think they'd want Pickens and a pick.
05:35God.
05:36Not a high pick,
05:37but I think they'd want Pickens and a fourth
05:38or something like that.
05:40Yeah, because I would think that Pickens...
05:42I got two firsts for him a few months ago.
05:44Chalfie, if I told you it's Pickens for a two,
05:47or Pickens for Crosby...
05:49Two.
05:51I don't think...
05:52You know, I think you're right on the Raiders
05:54not taking...
05:54They would need a pick,
05:55because I don't think they think
05:57that Pickens would re-sign there.
05:59Are you still holding AMC?
06:02Yeah.
06:03It's up 5% right now.
06:04What did it peak at?
06:05Do you remember?
06:08Maybe it was 52?
06:10And you'll never see 52 again.
06:12You won't, right?
06:14You know, it depends on my wife's listening.
06:17$52.
06:19Probably not.
06:19The Raiders are never going to see two firsts again.
06:22Right.
06:22It doesn't make it any more difficult for them to go,
06:24I had that before, though.
06:26I can't give this up three months later.
06:29Right.
06:29They're holding and hoping right now.
06:31And so they're just going to say,
06:32no, we'd rather hold on to him
06:34and keep that there.
06:35But I think when I name these three names,
06:38you're not going to be thinking
06:39you're going to go get a Max Crosby.
06:41It's going to have to be coupled with a pick,
06:42and then maybe it turns into...
06:44Maybe it does turn into Josh Downs
06:46or somebody like that.
06:47More along those lines.
06:48So these are the three players
06:50I think they could reasonably trade
06:52along with a pick
06:53and then get something with them.
06:56Savone Revel.
06:57Not a big thing.
06:59Yeah.
06:59But Revel is a year removed from teams
07:01that would have graded him in the second round.
07:03And they go,
07:04but yeah, that defense sucks.
07:05They've had a mess of coaching.
07:07If we get a pick in Revel,
07:08we can make that work.
07:09That's by low.
07:10You ready for me to say something crazy?
07:12Yep.
07:13I'm not ready to give up
07:16by selling Savone Revel cheap.
07:18I'm not giving up on Savone Revel.
07:20I saw what I saw in camp.
07:22Now, I was the first one to say
07:23and try to get Oxnard canceled for all of you.
07:26Training camp's worthless,
07:27and it has proven to be worthless.
07:29But he's still balled out,
07:31and he's still after his second year.
07:33And that's too early for me
07:34to sell really, really low.
07:36Nope.
07:37Chop.
07:37For a what?
07:38A six?
07:39No, no, no.
07:40This would be for a player.
07:41Like, you're pairing him with a pick for,
07:43let's say that gets you,
07:45let's say Revel and a sixth gets you downs.
07:47Would you take that?
07:49Yeah.
07:50But it wouldn't.
07:51I don't know.
07:52Like, I don't know.
07:52If they looked at it and said,
07:53let's get a young corner in here
07:55to, like, build with moving forward,
07:56I could see them saying something like that.
08:00Uh, I mean, I...
08:02And then I'd trade George.
08:04And I feel better about my football team
08:06if I added defensively.
08:09Or you can go ahead and get your pick
08:10and deal with the future.
08:13It is early.
08:14Mm-hmm.
08:15Yeah, these are,
08:16in order to find value to a couple with a pick
08:17since you're solo on picks,
08:18you're going to have to move on early.
08:20You kind of can't wait for the
08:21Kyer-Elam play out in Buffalo.
08:23Yeah, you got to let somebody
08:24still think they can,
08:25and, oh, that's just...
08:26Yeah.
08:27Which is why...
08:28What's your answer here first
08:29before I say the next name?
08:30Probably not.
08:32Okay, the other name.
08:33Donovan Azaraku.
08:36Azaraku is a guy who I think
08:37would have value.
08:38Yeah.
08:38And you just drafted Malachi Lawrence.
08:42You've gone through some scheme changes.
08:44Azaraku's supposed to be able to perform this,
08:45and he's been a...
08:46Even though he doesn't pick up
08:48a bunch of sacks so far,
08:50Azaraku's been a solid, like,
08:51run defender at times.
08:52He has decent games
08:54where he's generating pressure.
08:55Like, last year,
08:56he was one of your better defenders
08:57overall for the year.
08:59And this year,
09:00he's been a little disappointing
09:01because it's just not been
09:02as splashy as you'd want.
09:0464 PFF.
09:05What's the value you're putting on?
09:06Fourth?
09:07So, you do couple it with, like,
09:08let's say you couple it with a fifth
09:10from one of your drafts.
09:10So, you say,
09:11Donovan Azaraku and a fifth.
09:12Does that get you
09:13an aging pass rusher
09:15who's better right now?
09:16Right.
09:19Yeah, no.
09:20Again, if I'm going to trade,
09:22I want picks.
09:23I need picks.
09:24But this is,
09:24we're talking about
09:25if you want to acquire something
09:26to add to your team,
09:27how you'd have to
09:28also probably send out
09:30a piece that's a player.
09:31I mean,
09:33without re-watching all the film
09:34post-hut clarity tomorrow,
09:357-20,
09:36I'm like,
09:37Azaraku's been a tremendous
09:38disappointment to me.
09:39Yeah.
09:40I don't know if he's playing the run
09:41and doing the other little things,
09:43setting edges.
09:43Last year was better so far.
09:45Yeah.
09:46It feels early,
09:48but I would listen.
09:49I would definitely think about it.
09:50Because I think the only reason
09:51why you'd even entertain,
09:52you got Lawrence this year.
09:54Yeah.
09:54And you feel like,
09:55all right,
09:55well, Lawrence is...
09:55Get Malakai all the reps.
09:56Yeah,
09:57and so it may just be a thing
09:57where you're like,
09:58you know what,
09:58let's just lean into Lawrence
09:59and let's try and add
10:01for something now
10:02with Azaraku.
10:03And then the last name.
10:06One that I think most people
10:07here in Dallas would be like,
10:09okay,
10:10why would he have any value?
10:11I'm telling you,
10:12around the rest of the league
10:12does have value.
10:13Don't say Luke Skumay.
10:15No, no, no, no.
10:16Around the rest of the league
10:16does have value,
10:17and I think in recent weeks
10:18you've been shown
10:19you can survive
10:21in that third part of the game
10:25with another guy back there doing it.
10:26It's Kevontae Turpin.
10:28Yeah.
10:28Like,
10:29Turpin,
10:29I think,
10:30now again,
10:30you're not going to get
10:31the same return you would
10:31probably for like Azaraku in a pick.
10:33Yeah.
10:34But the league does value
10:35Turpin as like a weapon.
10:37Fine.
10:37And so I think if you could,
10:38I think what you've seen
10:39in recent weeks,
10:40Goodson's done a decent job
10:41running back kicks.
10:42Mingo hasn't been a disaster
10:43other than the like bobble
10:45he had on that one punt.
10:46I think they're finding
10:47out right here,
10:48like,
10:48it's almost like what they
10:49didn't find out
10:50on a much smaller scale,
10:51what they didn't find out
10:52by just letting Zeke sit out
10:53and letting Pollard play in 2019
10:55where they would have found out,
10:56oh,
10:57we don't need to do this.
10:58I kind of think they could
10:59look at it and say,
11:00we don't need Turpin
11:01anymore in this part of our game.
11:03He's expendable.
11:04Let's couple him
11:05with a draft pick
11:06and see if we can get
11:07somebody who's,
11:08hey,
11:08swap for swap,
11:09two teams that are trying
11:10to compete,
11:10give us your resource.
11:11Absolutely.
11:12You know,
11:12this is also teaching me
11:13that Bobby's area of expertise
11:15in talking football
11:16is only special teams now
11:18because he nailed
11:20Aubrey and Turpin.
11:21It's the most important
11:22part of the game.
11:22It's the one that involves
11:23both sides,
11:24the whole roster.
11:25I would,
11:25I would,
11:27I would bring him,
11:28bring him a car
11:29to get him out of here.
11:30I just don't think
11:31of Turpin as being,
11:33it's similar to the Aubrey thing
11:35of like,
11:35he was good three years ago.
11:37There's not a significant
11:38advantage with him anymore.
11:39Let's take a look.
11:39yet.
11:39being shonomawk
11:39or nadzieję
11:39Oppkeys

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