00:00The news being reported by Jeremy Fowler of ESPN, Brown's plan to start Deshaun Watson
00:05against the Texans coming up on Sunday.
00:09Deshaun's former team.
00:11Yeah.
00:12I said at the beginning of the show, if they deemed Shadour to be as basically an equal
00:18to Deshaun, I would start Shadour.
00:22Would this tell you, Andy, if they start Deshaun, they view Deshaun as a better quarterback
00:29still?
00:30Which would be fine?
00:31Yes.
00:31Okay.
00:32Yeah.
00:32That's correct.
00:33I agree.
00:34They had the competition.
00:36Deshaun beat them out.
00:38They're apparently pleased enough with Deshaun's play that a good showing by Shadour, though
00:43it was in a loss, not enough to make a change at quarterback.
00:48I get that.
00:49If they were pleased enough with Deshaun, they were 5-3 with him at quarterback with 5 come
00:55from behind victories.
00:56I get that.
00:57I'll just go back to this.
00:59My hope all along has been that Shadour or Dylan or Talon, it's not just Shadour.
01:08It's anybody who's young, controllable from a financial standpoint, and could be here a
01:14long time that somebody jumps up and shows they should be the guy who starts at quarterback
01:21for this team.
01:22Because I just, if Deshaun's back next year, I think we'd all be surprised.
01:27Is that fair?
01:28A hundred percent fair.
01:30I think you've laid out the perfect scenario here.
01:33Again, if you're going to start Deshaun on this Sunday, why didn't you start him yesterday?
01:40Good question, Andy.
01:42If he was healthy, I just don't.
01:44Unless he just wants to say, you know what, we felt more comfortable with Shadour.
01:48We built the game plan around him, and that's why we went with him.
01:51But then, I still would have to question, like, why wouldn't Deshaun have been your number
01:56two quarterback then yesterday?
01:59Well, I would think if he was able to be your number two, you should have started him.
02:02For some reason, they didn't deem him ready to be in uniform.
02:08And if it's because, if Todd's thought is truly, well, he wasn't in practice this week
02:16and all that, I would call, really, on that?
02:21Really?
02:23As we've said, these guys won games yesterday.
02:27Just some of them.
02:28Dak Prescott, Joe Burrow, Bo Nix, Jared Goff, Matthew Stafford, even J.J. McCarthy,
02:34Patrick Mahomes, C.J. Stroud, Brock Purdy, Drew Locke, Jordan Love, Caleb Williams.
02:40Those were winning quarterbacks yesterday.
02:43If any of those guys, other than maybe McCarthy, was in concussion protocol,
02:48cleared it Saturday morning, they're going to start.
02:53Andy, I so want one of the young quarterbacks.
02:59Shadour, fine, he started yesterday.
03:01To, in the minds of the coaching staff, say, you know what?
03:05This guy gives us a better chance to win.
03:07I want that.
03:09I want that.
03:11My job doesn't hinge on that.
03:14Todd Munkin's job hinges on wins, losses, and quarterback play.
03:21And, apparently, if Jeremy Fowler's report is correct, and Jeremy's usually on the money,
03:26they're going to start Deshaun against Houston.
03:28Okay.
03:29In Todd's mind, Deshaun Watson gives them a better chance to win.
03:33Do you trust the head coach?
03:36We have so far.
03:37Do you have a choice?
03:38Although, we've had callers today calling him out.
03:41Well, he's the head coach.
03:42Everybody's going to give him grief.
03:43Right?
03:44Yep.
03:45The Browns yesterday actually did have some scoring drives that had some plays to them.
03:50Field goal.
03:51The first one, nine play drive, but 35 yards.
03:54Second one, eight play drive, 66 yards.
03:57The Concepcion was a one play drive, Andy.
04:02Some clock management there.
04:04Way to go, KC.
04:04I'll take it, though.
04:05I don't care which one play.
04:06The next field goal, Schmidt, was a seven play drive.
04:09And then the Harold Fannin in overtime was an eight play, 67 yard drive.
04:13So, they did put some things together.
04:16Honestly, Jim said the same things that I've been saying.
04:21My hope would be that they think Shador gives them every bit as much of a chance to win.
04:27And since he's the young guy, you play him because he has the upside and maybe the possibility of being
04:32the guy here more than just this year.
04:34Wouldn't you like to hear?
04:35I mean, I'm okay with that, too.
04:37I just, I'd like to hear Todd Munkin say it.
04:39I'd like to hear Todd say something definitive on the subject.
04:41Yeah.
04:42You know, and I think he'll have to come out today.
04:46Because, you know, Shador was more, he was more than competent yesterday in the second half.
04:50Looked all right.
04:51You know, turning the wrong way on the handoff down at the goal line wasn't the best of things.
04:55But, you know, you'll have that.
04:58There could be mistakes, and there certainly was one.
05:01Kind of turns the wrong way every once in a while, too.
05:03That's kind of.
05:04Well, can I?
05:07Although, if you escape it, you turn the right way.
05:09Can I play devil's advocate?
05:10Sure.
05:11We talked in the first couple of games about knocking two years of rust off of Deshaun Watson.
05:17You could actually throw out, well, okay, Shador's first game of the year.
05:21I'll listen to it.
05:22I'll listen to it.
05:22I think it's fair.
05:23See, the problem is, Andy, there's a lot of things that are fair here.
05:28Except that.
05:30Including, ready?
05:31Yeah.
05:31Including the play of both quarterbacks.
05:34It's fair.
05:35Yeah.
05:36It's not great.
05:38Nope.
05:39But it's fair.
05:40Let me throw out a stupid hypothetical.
05:43Here we go.
05:45Browns win yesterday if Deshaun actually plays.
05:51You want to answer first or you want your main answer?
05:53I'll go ahead.
05:54I'll answer.
05:55Okay.
05:56I'll say yeah.
05:58Only because perhaps the first half would be better.
06:02That's taking nothing away from Shador.
06:04I thought Shador did a nice job in the second half, late in the game especially.
06:08But the offense just did not click early on.
06:12I'm sure part of that was because Shador was rusty.
06:15And this is not about ability.
06:18This is about offense clicking and everything else.
06:21Offense hadn't played well against Pittsburgh, obviously.
06:24There were no touchdowns for, what was it, seven straight quarters?
06:28No touchdowns until the fourth quarter yesterday, so that's seven straight.
06:32But I would think it took Shador naturally, understandably, a little while to catch his stride.
06:39Yeah.
06:40And maybe if Deshaun actually starts yesterday, they come out of the chute a little more quickly
06:43and put up some points, more than three in the first half.
06:48I tend to agree with everything you just said.
06:50So I do.
06:51And by the way, that was a big topic of conversation at the place I was watching the game.
06:55Really?
06:55They kept saying, well, you know, if we don't have that bad first half,
06:59we probably have a better chance to win this thing.
07:01But penalties are penalties, and I don't know.
07:05It's kind of a coin flip, though, because like we said, it's rinse, lather, repeat.
07:11Or lather, rinse, repeat.
07:13The Jeremy Fowler report that Deshaun is going to start on Sunday against the Texans.
07:17Okay, fine, get it.
07:19You know, five wins with him at quarterback, five come from behind wins.
07:22To me, Andy, what the question now becomes, and you'll hear Todd Munkin at 2 o'clock,
07:27and I hope somebody asks him this, why exactly did you not play Watson yesterday?
07:33That, to me, now is the question.
07:36Well, why didn't you play him?
07:38Did you want to see Shadour?
07:40If so, okay.
07:41But I don't get it.
07:42But if Deshaun was cleared, and you're going back to him immediately after Shadour did a more than competent job
07:50yesterday,
07:51then why the hell didn't he play yesterday?
07:54It feels very like...
07:55Why didn't he play?
07:56It feels very backwards high school football rules on why he didn't play.
08:02Well, he had a concussion.
08:04We're being really safe.
08:05Well, and that's fine.
08:06I don't have...
08:07That's actually not a bad answer.
08:08However, he cleared.
08:10The high school answer is, you know, we have eight classes a day,
08:15and, you know, if you don't come to four of those classes in a day, you can't play.
08:20That's kind of what it felt like.
08:22Or one of those, oh, well, if you don't go to school today, you can't play in tonight's game.
08:26Like, I don't even know if that's a real rule in a lot of places.
08:29I think it's mythical or it's comfortable for a coach if you want to sit somebody and see somebody else
08:34play.
08:35Well, you know, you didn't go to school today.
08:37I had a doctor's appointment in a note.
08:38Oh, well, you weren't in school today.
08:39You weren't in school.
08:40You missed algebra.
08:41You missed algebra.
