00:01All right, by the way, Emory Hunt did not say they were going to be undefeated with Shador Sanders.
00:07Said they would have one, maybe two losses in the clip.
00:09I tweeted at Emory Hunt, thank goodness.
00:11Because I'm going to say, Emory Hunt?
00:12I'm like, I don't remember if Emory Hunt said it was undefeated or not.
00:15They'd be undefeated or not.
00:22Okay, 216-474-0092.
00:25Did you hear anything of what I just said?
00:26Yeah.
00:27Okay, I figured when I said, Limas said, Emory Hunt, you would jump in on something.
00:31You were just watching some fight between Raiders fans and whatever fans.
00:34Oh, it was one of the craziest things I've ever seen.
00:37But that was the clip that the afternoon show had put out that so many people had reacted to in
00:43Cleveland
00:44when they saw that a national pundit came in and said they would be so much better with, you know,
00:49the other quarterback.
00:49Well, I'll say this, I put the way that both play with, I got one game of a sample of
00:54Shador.
00:54I got eight games of a sample with Deshaun Watson.
00:58If you felt that passionately about Shador Sanders, and Emory does, you can make that argument about one or two
01:05games based on what I saw.
01:08Now, if he were to start more games, would he be quote-unquote figured out?
01:12I don't know.
01:12Well, I think Deshaun Watson has been quote-unquote figured out.
01:15There's still a 5-3 football team with Deshaun Watson.
01:18Now they're 5-4 with Deshaun Watson and Shador Sanders.
01:21But if you think the best is yet to come, I still think if you were going to go,
01:24well, I think they'd be a two-win team or a three, they'd be 6-3 with Shador, 7-2
01:30with Shador.
01:31I don't think it's that crazy to say.
01:34You've had two tight losses.
01:35You've had two blowout losses.
01:38If you think that he would have won the tight games, even though he lost one of the tight games
01:43yesterday, fine, I guess I'll hear it out.
01:45But if you were sitting there going, I think we'd be 6-3 with Shador Sanders, I would probably disagree.
01:49But I couldn't say you're crazy for it.
01:52No.
01:53And I'm glad that I was able to tell Emery on Twitter that I also did watch his Jacksonville at
01:58Sam Houston game.
01:59Which I think he put S, you know what, I don't want to, what does Sam Houston go by now?
02:03Is it Sam Houston State or just Sam Houston?
02:05Samuel.
02:08Can't get nothing out of you.
02:10Samuel Thelonious Houston State.
02:11I was watching Notre Dame and Miami, and then Notre Dame started to pull away, and I'm like, well, let
02:16me flick around here for just a moment.
02:18There was an injury on the field, and I go, all right, I'll check it out.
02:20And I think I text you, I go, every hunt's on this game.
02:22This is great.
02:23Did you think that the Miami was a catch?
02:26No.
02:27That got knocked out.
02:29Mario Cristobal can complain all he wants.
02:30It was a good call.
02:32You got to control the ball.
02:34That's a catch.
02:35But how long do you got to control it?
02:37Longer than what he got control for it.
02:39Yeah, that's the thing.
02:40In slow-mo, it is so different.
02:42In slow-mo, it looks like he has the ball for 18 seconds, but in real time, he had the
02:46ball, nothing.
02:46I don't think he ever really controlled the football.
02:48And it got knocked out.
02:49Same thing Ronnie Hickman did.
02:51Yeah, same thing.
02:51Are we calling that a touch?
02:52Are we calling that a catch?
02:53No, it wasn't a catch, and this wasn't a catch either.
02:56If Malachi Tony were on the Miami Hurricanes, maybe the results would be different.
02:59Well, he's not going to be on the Hurricanes until the postseason, what they claim, so maybe
03:03we'll find out again.
03:04It was a good win by Notre Dame.
03:05But I tuned back in.
03:06I saw the scoring.
03:07I went, oh, I got to get back to Notre Dame over here, because I thought they were just
03:09going to pull away, and that was going to be the end.
03:11So I went.
03:11I saw Lamar Sperling get a first down for UTEP, which I texted you about.
03:15Yes.
03:15And then I flicked over, and I saw Jacksonville State against Sam Houston.
03:18And I went, hey, because right when I clicked on, it said Emory, I go, Emory Hunt's on
03:21the game.
03:22And I thought he did a fine job.
03:25I wish they'd put you two together.
03:26I think that'd be fun.
03:27I would love to do a game with Emory.
03:28Are you kidding me?
03:29Because if you guys did a blowout, then you know what would happen, and I'd go, roll
03:34on the whole thing.
03:35We're going to play the whole second half of this blowout in the Mac.
03:38Give us a Colorado game.
03:40Then we can have some fun.
03:41I want to hear you two host a radio show while you're doing a game, and all based on
03:45quarterbacks.
03:46This is why I like the play calling.
03:47There's several people who didn't, by the way.
03:51I like the play calling because I would have handled it the same way.
03:54Well, do you think, let me ask you, sorry to cut you off, Kenny.
03:56Go ahead.
03:58It was half joke, but it was kind of real.
04:01At halftime, I tweeted out, hashtag free Shador, because it was pretty clear Todd had
04:08zero trust in him up until he needed to trust him.
04:12Were you trolling, or did you mean it?
04:13I kind of meant it.
04:15I wanted to see.
04:17He kind of meant it.
04:17I wanted to see Shador.
04:19You were definitely trolling, but you kind of meant it.
04:21I can do both.
04:23I'm gifted.
04:24We draw our own conclusions, and we do our own narratives here.
04:26Let's do this.
04:28Yeah.
04:28Do you think Todd had any trust in his quarterback until the fourth quarter?
04:33No.
04:33And for that matter, I really don't think he has a lot of trust in Deshaun Watson either,
04:36because I saw a lot of the same stuff, I think.
04:39It was, at least in the first games, it was very rudimentary.
04:43It was, hey, let's not try to go.
04:45But, like, I understand.
04:47Shador Sanders does not lack confidence on the field.
04:50I've never felt at one point, the difference between him and Deshaun, at one point I thought
04:54Deshaun Watson played scared.
04:55I've never accused Shador Sanders of playing scared.
04:58It's never happened.
05:00But I don't think there's much trust in either one.
05:03And I think you could see that reflective in the play calling.
05:07I didn't.
05:08It was his first time out there.
05:09You've had one week.
05:11And, you know, you wonder how well he's going to handle this situation on the road, loud
05:17environment, to place traps and noise.
05:20And so you figure out, okay, what's best for him?
05:23Is what's best for him throwing the ball, winging the ball down the field, and possibly
05:26putting him in a situation to commit turnovers that would affect him later on?
05:30No.
05:31So I would pull the offense back and do basically what Todd Munkin did.
05:37And I would have done the same thing for Deshaun Watson, which was basically what Todd Munkin
05:42did.
05:44And so I think what Todd's showing you, other than the Steelers game, I thought his play
05:49calling has been fine.
05:51Or good.
05:53And I also think he's given us a window in just how much trust he has in these guys.
05:57Because if he had full trust, does anybody think Denzel Boston isn't a good wide receiver
06:03or Casey Concepcion isn't a good wide receiver?
06:06Harold Fannin Jr., good pass catcher?
06:10If you had what you thought was your franchise quarterback, would you not be trying to go
06:14down the field more earlier with those guys, with those three guys?
06:18And you really haven't done that very much with either one of these quarterbacks.
06:23The first Pittsburgh game, he finally let Deshaun Watson throw it deep, and it worked.
06:27They had a lot of success on it.
06:29So what I really thought, and I think that was maybe one of the few ones, what I really
06:34think is this was a window into how much trust or lack of trust he has with both guys to
06:39not get in their own way or get in the way of team success.
06:42And make them complimentary football players.
06:44That's why I don't think that the Browns won in spite of Deshaun Watson, and if they would
06:49have won that game, they wouldn't have won in spite of Shador Sanders.
06:53I think they've done a pretty good job of dealing with what they have.
06:57Because I've seen a head coach, and I like Kevin, but I've seen a coach do a pretty damn
07:01bad job at dealing with both of these guys.
07:04So if we're making comparisons, Todd Munkin might not end up being Bill Parcells by the
07:09time it's all said and done.
07:10But I got to tell you, I think one coach has done better with these two quarterbacks, and
07:14that's Todd Munkin instead of Kevin Stefanski.
07:17And it might just be, in the end, a little bit better than bad, because you would have
07:21thought that Kevin handled him poorly.
07:23Okay, but I'm still getting something better out of both of these guys with Todd Munkin.
07:28So I agree with what Todd has done.
07:30I agree with what he's done.
07:31I'd be very surprised if he went right back to Shador Sanders.
07:34And we would maybe find that out later on today, wouldn't we?
07:37Yeah, I want to ask, because obviously we'll carry that press conference here on 92.3
07:41The Fan, so stay tuned in.
07:42Well, if he doesn't give an immediate answer, then what's going on?
07:44Well, did you find it, um...
07:47He's not going to give an answer.
07:48Well, hold on.
07:49Why wouldn't you?
07:50He doesn't have to until Wednesday.
07:51When has he done anything before he has?
07:52Why would you make the fan base?
07:54That's great, but why would you make the fan base debate?
07:56And then why would you put the other players in a position where they might have to answer
07:59a question?
07:59Yeah, I agree with you, Ken.
08:01And yet, show me the history where he's done any of it.
08:04Yeah, I was a little surprised yesterday.
08:06I'm surprised yesterday he didn't just say, no, Deshaun's my quarterback.
08:10I was a little surprised.
08:12Did that open the door just a little bit where I shouldn't be totally stunned if he were
08:17to make the move this week?
08:19I'd be pretty surprised.
08:21Shocked?
08:22Would I say shocked?
08:24I'd be pretty surprised.
08:26Just normally, most coaches, when they have a starting quarterback that has already been
08:32determined and that starting quarterback has been a big part of what was a 5-3 start, normally
08:39any question about whether there'd be a change of quarterback would be shot down immediately.
08:43Nope.
08:44Just file it away.
08:45Todd Munkin did not shoot that down.
08:47You're right, Owen.
08:48He's done that before.
08:49So maybe he's just consistent.
08:51Did he think that maybe the media and the fans would think that he thought Shador did
08:55a terrible job if he immediately said in the postgame, it's Deshaun Watson's job?
08:59Well, that's interesting, too, because his gushing postgame about Shador did not match
09:04the body language and what we saw on the sidelines for about two and a half of the three hours
09:09and change game.
09:10Because he looked like he was not happy with Shador the entire time.
09:14Until Shador started doing the stuff that he's put on tape before.
09:21It's a simple question when we come back in five minutes.
09:23You've got to think like Todd would, not about how you would.
09:29Who do you think should start on Sunday?
09:31I'm already looking forward.
09:32Does Deshaun Watson get his job back or are you going with Shador?
09:352-1-6-4-7-4-0-0-92.
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