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The morning after the NFL trade deadline, Jim Costa and Jon Jansen open the show with raw frustration directed at Detroit Lions General Manager Brad Holmes.
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00:02well where do we begin i think you know good morning 97 one jim costa john jansen heather
00:07park gov and greg behind the glass on a wednesday which means the power surge that's coming up at
00:136 35 and today on the show not one but two chances to win tickets to michigan state arkansas
00:19at little caesar's arena end of the month watching a good basketball team there after last night yeah
00:25oh boy good time to give away those tickets but you know we're not starting with college hoops
00:29no we're starting with the trade deadline how you doing you okay i wasn't sure you were gonna make
00:36it just because you're not one player away doesn't mean you can't get one player better
00:43someone needs to hear can i tap this microphone brad if you're listening yeah he's not he's not
00:51i don't even know if he was awake yesterday oh i think he was um but i don't know what
00:57he was doing
00:57john eight other contenders added a starter our roster must be so effing good
01:03that we don't need to add anybody it's pure distilled arrogance by brad holmes to sit on
01:10his keister while every other team makes a good honest effort to get better that's how i'm doing
01:26no because his attitude yesterday was that he was dreading it you you anticipated this you and rico
01:34i applaud you both i was preaching practically especially early in the show that they should
01:40do something sure because of what you just said eight other teams added a starter make your team
01:46better like i i really sit back and digest this and because of the campbell situation like they're
01:52thin at linebacker there was nothing wrong at least adding some depth maybe doing another
01:57cisco move at least that's where i find the the negligence i don't want to have this regret at the
02:03end of the season thinking well what if we had added somebody somewhere to help this football team they
02:09earned a trade deadline addition they're six and two the o-line's good the defense is getting better
02:15you're in a a loaded division what was dan's word yesterday best division in football
02:19why not give yourself the best chance you can't guarantee anything none of these other teams
02:25guaranteed a super bowl right why not give your the best chance the the best foot forward down the
02:30stretch run here well and the the issue is that you look at the other teams that either had needs
02:39or strengthened to strength and did denver need a linebacker like the defense is the strength of
02:45their team right they went and added the you know henley from you know they got one of the guys
02:49that
02:49we had talked about yesterday from the chargers caller made the push and the plea to add him and and
02:54it
02:54didn't go for a lot john it was a fourth and a fifth right san francisco oh hey they're a
02:59couple
02:59of injuries at wide receiver so they go add keenan allen now is keenan allen the answer for them no
03:06no
03:06but deforest buckner too well yes but but i'm still i'm talking specifically yesterday okay
03:11they added keenan allen because they've got to stem the tide yes until mike evans comes back until
03:19debo samuel is 100 healthy and then you look at kansas city you know hey deficient play at receiver
03:27some injuries as well what do they do they go out and get josh down so i think it's a
03:32underrated
03:33player and specifically some speed to help him over the top at buffalo weakness on defense they go get
03:40a monty hooker gave up chicago with jeffrey simmons deforest buckner again at uh at san francisco
03:45jacksonville added not one not two but three i've kind of feel like i'm pulling a lebron here
03:52who was the third so they got jordan davis they got jesse bates and then somebody yeah it was a
03:56late
03:56round pick uh that they gave up for defensive tackle um godshaw okay and so again they know that
04:04they've got to be able to defend the run and gotcha no one's going to sit there and say oh
04:08wow
04:08they added another defense they added depth to a position of that that they needed so they added
04:15you know a couple of guys in up front they added one on the back end and what did i
04:20say about this
04:21jacksonville team when i've had them in the power rankings hey they have you know a an explosive
04:27offense they're scoring a lot of points defensively their numbers outside of scoring mirrored in the
04:35first four weeks what the lions were and so that they go out and they make their defensive front
04:43better and then they go out and get jesse bates on the back end so that not only are they
04:48good
04:48in the red zone which they've been good through the red zone they haven't allowed a lot of touchdowns
04:52but in between the 20s like they are giving their offense the ball back more often and with better
04:59field position because of the additions that they made so those are five afc heavyweight to mention
05:04in there that all made some level of addition between you know giving up firsts and seconds to
05:10maybe even only just using a fourth but trying to get someone to start and contribute and help their
05:14team that's five in the afc and then in the nfc you know we've we've laid out chicago and san
05:19francisco
05:20but also minnesota goes gets a quarterback one that is familiar now i am curious for minnesota
05:26how quickly does that transition take hold because yes kirk cousins was there he's played
05:34with justin justin jefferson must have been jumping up and down and throwing a party he was the opposite
05:38of you last night yeah um and and same with tj hockinson same with uh addison you know and and
05:45you
05:45know i i got to believe their defense was like oh please thank you thank you we don't have to
05:51hold
05:51people to 10 points to win right but how long does that transition for him to be implemented into the
05:57offense he's going to be in there right away but how long does it take for him to be effective
06:03with
06:04this group of receivers i think it's in fast forward mode yeah because he's worked with them before and
06:08he's been in this offense he's had the you know the the kevin o'connell as as his coach like
06:13pit stop
06:14minnesota radio for a second on one hand yeah you can't waste this defense this is an upgrade this is
06:21someone who should be able to hit the ground running faster than a random quarterback that
06:24you trade for mid-season and at the same time this is the guy that they thought they had plateaued
06:29with
06:29right there's there's a reason that they they went a separate direction so this is not exactly great
06:35quarterback management by minnesota right but it is an upgrade undeniably and and on the opposite side
06:43you've got the rams who have had you know severe injuries at wide receiver pukanakua don't know
06:49when he'll be back davante adams don't know when he'll be back everyone thought they were going
06:54to add a receiver but they didn't do anything yesterday except go to i think it was san francisco's
07:01practice squad to sign a receiver right so i don't want to put them in the same category as the
07:07lions
07:08because of one track record but they're also getting miles garrett back and he played last week
07:14they've they've spent a lot of draft capital previously which is why they didn't spend draft
07:19capital yesterday let me put it to you this way if you go to pick your sports book fanduel and
07:24you
07:25look at the teams with the best odds to win the super bowl seven of the ten added a starter
07:31yesterday
07:32the three that didn't the rams i think we understand that they made their several big splashes in the
07:38offseason the other two teams are the notoriously cheap and stupid cincinnati bengals who didn't add
07:45in the well they tried to and then it was pointed out to them that they effed up the comp
07:48pick formula
07:49and actually would have lost a third in the deal so since he didn't do anything but they're their own
07:52mess and us every other team in that mix is saying i can add a receiver i can add a
08:00d lineman i can add
08:01an offensive lineman for seattle we can do something to plug a starter in and no no that does not
08:06mean
08:06it's automatic you just want to know that your guy has a pulse you know brad holmes will give up
08:12thirds plural to take a player with 11 catches midway through the season he'll give up a future
08:18third to draft a canadian offensive lineman that no one had ever heard of that's never going to play
08:23meaningful football he'll do it for projects and dart throws but not proven starters that can help his
08:28football team when they're six and two so uh going there with the third pick third round pick do you
08:33think the chargers would have taken a third round pick instead of denver's package for henley yeah
08:37i do too guess what it's also out of division and out of conference do you think brad holmes would
08:43ever make a trade in the division i absolutely yeah yeah he's done it with uh yeah yeah that's true
08:50i mean look it was a classic sell too yeah by the way and they weren't competitive but and the
08:56chargers aren't either to be fair yeah but i don't think i just don't think he's willing to give up
09:02what other teams are willing to give up and he's clearly overvaluing his picks and his capital but
09:09then he does what you just said it doesn't make it doesn't jive and i get if you hit the
09:13draft pick
09:14you get four years or more so so you could argue the payoff could be greater at the same time
09:19the
09:20bust rate as we go deeper into the draft in his third rounds him and any gm you're going to
09:25have
09:26your share of misses as opposed to guys who are proven nfl vets that come in and can have a
09:30starter's role on a football team that he he's not willing to make those moves and i know there's
09:34going to be a course of people will these guys didn't get moved why they didn't get moved because
09:39someone didn't make him the right offer it's his job to make the right offer so i have a couple
09:44of
09:44comments on twitch i'd like to share with you please uh first cookies you should be glad the lions
09:50made an early deal spending a six-round pick rather than waiting for a last minute for scraps
09:54and spending a seventh and then uh that's followed up by it's cool lions aren't winning
10:01anything with or without a trade so it's fine okay fair enough we'll just on to basketball season i
10:07guess uh can i hit you with a couple texts sure go ahead jansen defend it five weeks ago you
10:13said
10:13they'd make a move i thought for sure that they would i and and and i'm not going to lose
10:19my mind
10:19i'm not going to get all in my emotions like uh my partner here but i'm a little emotional today
10:25oh no it's okay you're you're reacting as as a fan i am disappointed that they didn't make an addition
10:32to a clear need and when this plays out and i'll play the play out card here and you get
10:41to the
10:41postseason because i still think as as constructed this is a postseason team correct but when you get
10:46to the postseason and you get exposed in the secondary that's where sheila needs to look at
10:53this and go do i have the guy that can get us over the hump i have the guy that
10:58i needed to get us to
10:59this point but do i have the guy that can actually make the choices and to to make this team
11:07good enough
11:08to win a super bowl that's the question that needs to be asked when this when this plays itself out
11:14yeah and i would emphasize while today is going to be a lot of anger and negativity they are a
11:18playoff team the season isn't canceled i'm just disappointed that they didn't put their best foot
11:23forward we got calls to get to more of your text more of your feedback quick before we go though
11:28today is veterans day oh and i do want to say thank you to all our veterans out there thank
11:34you for
11:34your service your sacrifice everything that you've done to make this to continue to make this the
11:41greatest country in the world we are very fortunate to live where we are to be able to do what
11:46we do
11:47because of the blanket of freedom that you have and safety that you have provided us so thank you to
11:53all the veterans out there 100 agree with you should have said it right off the gate we'll make sure
12:00to
12:00say it a couple times today because i think it is important to say it's 97 one

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