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Jim Costa, Jon Jansen, and TJ Lang break down the weekend in football on Costa & Jansen!
The guys react to Tom Brady’s broadcast quirks and growth as an NFL analyst, share heartfelt thoughts and emotional reflections on Jack Campbell's scary injury, and discuss the Lions' offensive line resurgence with Juice Scruggs and Sione Vaki stepping up in the running game.
The guys react to Tom Brady’s broadcast quirks and growth as an NFL analyst, share heartfelt thoughts and emotional reflections on Jack Campbell's scary injury, and discuss the Lions' offensive line resurgence with Juice Scruggs and Sione Vaki stepping up in the running game.
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00:00Is that Rivalry Week Wednesday, Central Eastern, Fort Field?
00:04Good morning, 97.1. It's a victory Monday.
00:08Rivalry Week. You heard the deep voice guy there.
00:11And I know it's Central and Eastern.
00:13Yeah, Wednesday, Fort Field.
00:16Are we going to have to separate you guys?
00:17I'll be there. You going to be there?
00:20No, I wasn't planning.
00:21Oh, it just means more in Ypsilanti.
00:24Yes, it does. Well, it's short of trip, I guess.
00:27Can I give you an impression real quick and tell me who I am?
00:30Yeah.
00:32Oh! Tom Brady did that at least 19,000 times yesterday.
00:36He's still a fan watching the game.
00:39It drives me nuts, dude. It drives me nuts.
00:41And I do like the emotion that you hear from some commentators.
00:46Certainly, I think Burkhart and Brady, Brady's actually gotten better.
00:50Yeah.
00:51It was kind of weird when he first started because,
00:54remember his big thing was like,
00:56I'm going to transform the way games are called.
01:00Yeah, he signed the contract that took a whole year
01:03before he actually called a game.
01:05Yeah, and then he's becoming a little bit more personable, I think.
01:09The one thing that even I still enjoy,
01:12even though, John, we played the game for 10 years,
01:14is getting different point of views.
01:16Tom Brady talking about some coverages
01:18and what the quarterback should be thinking.
01:20There's still some things that even I learned from watching it.
01:22I don't think you have to nerd out too much
01:24because the average football fan is,
01:26you know, you can't be like,
01:27hey, it's cover three, you know, middle dog crop.
01:30You know what I mean?
01:30Like, people aren't going to understand terms like that.
01:32But I think he's done a better job of just explaining
01:37why plays work, why plays don't work.
01:39And that's like, even me as a fan watching is,
01:42I still enjoy that.
01:43Oh, I do too.
01:43I could do without some of the screaming.
01:47Yeah.
01:47At one point, I went back and re-watched it again last night.
01:50And at one point, it was four straight plays
01:53where Burkhardt's calling the play.
01:54And it's just, oh!
01:56I'm just like, come on.
01:57Then you need to listen to...
01:59I can offset that a little bit.
02:02As you were listening to the Michigan broadcast,
02:03you could probably hear me go, oh, no.
02:07Groan.
02:09Jeez.
02:10Oh, boy.
02:11Yeah, we've all been there.
02:12And even doing the game for five years,
02:14you know, with the Lions,
02:15it's like there was times where I had to turn my mic off.
02:17Oh, yeah.
02:18Just like, oh, I don't want to be that guy.
02:21Radio's obviously different.
02:22But, man, yeah, I don't really know how to feel this morning.
02:27I mean, obviously happy with the win,
02:28but it feels like until you get some sort of update on Jack Campbell,
02:35that's just kind of a dark cloud.
02:38What should be, you know, a celebratory morning,
02:41and it still should be, don't get me wrong,
02:43but this is, you know, potential real-life stuff
02:45that we're watching.
02:46And, man, just praying for him and, you know,
02:49kind of reminded me, we don't know yet with Jack,
02:51but even when Hutchinson had that injury against Dad,
02:56that should have been the day that, man,
02:57we're killing the Cowboys.
02:59Oh, yeah, it's Jerry's birthday.
03:01You know, hooking ladders to our tackles.
03:03Like, we're just having fun.
03:05And then something like that happens.
03:07It's just like you can't.
03:08It takes the air out of the sails.
03:10Yeah, you can't.
03:10Like, it just puts a dark cloud over it a little bit.
03:12So, praying for Jack, his family.
03:16I know Dan Campbell, I think,
03:17usually talks at some point in the afternoon.
03:20So, by that point, you know,
03:22hopefully he'll have an update,
03:24and hopefully it's an encouraging one
03:26because that was scary.
03:28I asked John if he had ever experienced
03:30anything like that with a teammate.
03:31Have you?
03:32Yes.
03:33Yeah.
03:34And Jermichael Finley,
03:36who was a great tight end for us in Green Bay,
03:40pretty similar situation where, you know,
03:43he catches a pass over the middle of the field,
03:44takes a shot.
03:45You know, as an offensive lineman,
03:47you're running down to trying to help guys up,
03:49and when you look down, it's just like,
03:51whoa, like, we got to,
03:52you got to wave the trainers and the doctors over.
03:55Something's wrong here.
03:56And it's horrible, man.
03:58Like, it's because you're just so in tune
04:02with the game, the game, the game, the game,
04:04the game, and then you see,
04:05especially a guy like, you know,
04:07like, Jermichael Finley was, like,
04:08kind of one of our leaders, too,
04:09like Jack Campbell is,
04:10and good teammate, good guy, right?
04:13Captain on the team.
04:15It brings you back to real world real fast,
04:17and you could see it even yesterday
04:19with the emotions and Hutchinson.
04:22I mean, man, yeah, tearing up.
04:25Like, that's your brother, dude.
04:26And you know injuries are going to happen.
04:30Those are the ones that you hope
04:31you never have to go through
04:32or you ever have to see, right?
04:34We know guys are going to,
04:35you're going to have a knee injury at some point.
04:37You're going to have high ankle sprain, right?
04:39Like, you're going to have some of those injuries.
04:41What happened to Hutchinson, right?
04:43Like, those happen,
04:45and you can kind of galvanize around a team.
04:46Okay, we know we're going to be missing him.
04:48It's the injuries like this
04:49where you talk about potential neck,
04:52you know, back
04:53that you just don't know
04:55that are just frightening, man,
04:57because that's not just,
04:59hey, is Jack going to be okay to play next week?
05:01Is he going to come back in a couple weeks, right?
05:05It's, is Jack going to be okay as a person?
05:08Right, yeah.
05:08One of the alerts,
05:09and this wasn't from the Lions,
05:11but it was people that were around,
05:12you know, trying to give an update
05:14of what they were watching
05:15as he was going up the tunnel.
05:17One of them said,
05:18yeah, well, he was,
05:19eyes were open,
05:20and he was breathing.
05:22And you're like,
05:23this is what we're focusing on?
05:25And, and again, it's like,
05:27it's, it's just OMG.
05:28Yeah, yeah.
05:29And it's just,
05:30those are just, man,
05:31those are the ultimate scary ones.
05:33And when you go,
05:34it's so hard.
05:35And, and I commend,
05:36you know,
05:36the, the, the Lions
05:37and the defense
05:38and, you know,
05:39Shepard and Hutchinson,
05:41you could see
05:42galvanizing that group,
05:44you know,
05:44to do it for Jack.
05:45And, you know,
05:46it was,
05:48man, it's just so hard.
05:50Those are just the injuries that
05:52if John goes down my right tackle
05:54and it's like,
05:54okay, I'm going to be without John
05:55for four to six weeks,
05:56let him get healthy.
05:57That's fine.
05:58I feel, you know,
05:58I feel bad for you,
05:59but you do your thing, buddy.
06:00It's just these ones
06:00that you just don't know.
06:01And that's why all we can do
06:03is, you know,
06:03hope and pray
06:04that there's some sort of,
06:06you know,
06:07an encouraging update today.
06:08Yeah.
06:09And the same thing happened
06:10even last year.
06:11We were doing a preseason game
06:13in Atlanta
06:13and I can't remember
06:14the kid's name.
06:15I apologize.
06:16But, you know,
06:17he went down
06:18with a scary look.
06:18It really scary injury
06:19was down
06:20and they ended up
06:21just canceling
06:21the rest of the game.
06:22But you could see like
06:24that's your brother out there,
06:25right?
06:25Like you're not worried
06:26about Jack Campbell,
06:28the football player
06:29and helping us get back.
06:30You're worried about
06:32I just want an update.
06:33I just want an update
06:34to know that his health
06:35as a person
06:36is somewhat encouraging.
06:38So you're not a football
06:39player in that moment.
06:40You're a person.
06:41You're a husband.
06:42You're a father.
06:43He's got a young kid.
06:44You know,
06:44you're a friend
06:45to a lot of these guys
06:45in the locker room
06:46more than you are
06:47even a teammate.
06:50We want to hear
06:50that there's some movement.
06:51Right.
06:52You know,
06:52I think that's the update
06:53we're all hoping to hear.
06:54Yeah.
06:55And his teammates
06:56more than anybody,
06:57right?
06:57His teammates
06:57more than anybody
06:58and I'm sure that,
06:59you know,
06:59there's probably some guys
07:00that probably went
07:01to the hospital last night.
07:02I mean,
07:02that's not uncommon.
07:04And we haven't heard
07:05those stories yet,
07:05but I'm sure that happens
07:07because that's,
07:07but that's the tough part
07:09in the football game
07:11where you're just
07:13ultimate adrenaline,
07:14you know,
07:15testosterone driven.
07:16And then all of a sudden
07:17it goes to real life
07:19like that.
07:20And it's like,
07:21how do we get ourselves
07:22back into that mode?
07:23That's the biggest challenge.
07:25And it's challenging
07:26for both teams.
07:27I think even,
07:27you know,
07:28even Minnesota players,
07:29like you saw them,
07:30you know,
07:31all kind of praying
07:31on the sideline
07:32for Jack too.
07:33So man,
07:34it's just unfortunate
07:34part of the business
07:35that these,
07:36these type of things happen,
07:37but man,
07:38it's just really hope.
07:40Hopefully this afternoon,
07:41you know,
07:42we can get a positive update
07:43on Jack because he's just,
07:46we all know what type
07:47of player he is,
07:47but he's also a tremendous
07:49young man too,
07:50man.
07:51He's just an awesome kid.
07:52So praying for the best
07:53for Jack.
07:53So no easy transition,
07:55but we do want to talk
07:56about the game.
07:56And the one that I want
07:57to talk to you about with
07:58is Cade Mays goes down,
08:01Juice Scruggs comes in
08:04and there were some
08:06adjustments that Drew
08:06Petsig made,
08:07but it felt like they
08:08were more of a unit.
08:10They were more in tuned
08:11with each other
08:12when Juice was in there.
08:13Did you feel or see
08:14the same thing?
08:16I don't think,
08:17well,
08:17I don't want to put
08:18any of the blame
08:18on Cade Mays
08:19for the first half,
08:20right?
08:20Like,
08:21let me just say that quick
08:22because some of the
08:23protection errors
08:24and the,
08:25what was it?
08:25Four sacks were,
08:26yeah,
08:27some of it was just
08:27a lot of one-on-one
08:28matchup.
08:28Tight ends getting beat
08:29late into plays.
08:32I didn't think it was
08:33like a total lapse
08:34of communication
08:35and guys are just
08:36running free
08:36and man,
08:37what are we doing?
08:37And then Scruggs
08:38gets in there
08:38and it's like,
08:39oh wow,
08:39we're blocking
08:40everybody up.
08:40That wasn't the case,
08:41but Dan Campbell
08:43kind of hinted at it
08:44when he talked about
08:45Cade Mays coming back.
08:46They feel like they
08:47have two starting centers,
08:48capable starting centers
08:49in this league.
08:49And let's be honest,
08:51you paid Cade Mays,
08:52Cade Mays is making
08:53a whole lot more money
08:53than Juice Scruggs is,
08:54right?
08:55And that's just
08:55the pecking order,
08:57how it works
08:58in the NFL.
08:59You're getting paid
09:00high money,
09:01you're going to be
09:01the starter.
09:02Juice Scruggs
09:04has proven though
09:05that that was his
09:08fifth game?
09:09Yeah.
09:10Started four,
09:11Cade came back
09:11last week,
09:12right?
09:13Cade goes out.
09:13Okay,
09:14so that was his
09:14fourth and four
09:15and a half games.
09:16He's proven that
09:16he can be a reliable guy
09:18and that's what you want
09:20on the depth
09:21of your offensive line.
09:22You want guys
09:22that can come in,
09:23we don't have to change
09:24the entire game plan,
09:25we don't have to start
09:26double teaming this guy
09:27because we're a little
09:28bit weaker here
09:29and now it's just
09:30throwing off the chemistry
09:31across not only
09:33the offensive line
09:33but the entire offense.
09:34No,
09:35I thought Juice Scruggs
09:35looked awesome
09:36and I think that
09:37I got to give credit
09:38to Hank Fraley
09:39and Drew Petsing,
09:42Dan Skipper
09:43who's been in that
09:43offensive line room
09:44this year
09:45helping as an assistant
09:46changing some things
09:47in the game,
09:48in the run game.
09:49it drove me nuts
09:50last week
09:51watching the run game
09:52and how slow developing
09:53some of these plays were
09:55and it's just
09:55Jameer Gibbs
09:5610 yards deep
09:57and dance in the backfield
09:59and kind of wait.
10:00Yesterday,
10:00everything was downhill.
10:02Everything was downhill fast.
10:03It didn't matter
10:04if you were bringing pressure
10:05off the backside.
10:05It didn't matter
10:06if the defensive line
10:07was slanting.
10:08We're going to be
10:09through line of scrimmage
10:10before you have a chance
10:11to make that second reaction
10:13and make some plays
10:14and I can't say enough
10:17about how much
10:17I love the adjustments
10:18they made in the run game
10:19where it came to
10:20just attacking the line
10:22of scrimmage
10:22and not dancing around
10:23and waiting to see
10:24what the defense
10:25was going to do.
10:26And Gibbs hits it
10:27so quickly.
10:28And even...
10:30That's when he's at his best.
10:31Right.
10:31And Vocky didn't hit...
10:33doesn't do anything
10:34like Gibbs does.
10:35But having those quick hitters
10:37has helped him as well.
10:39Sure.
10:39Yeah.
10:39And getting through
10:40just that first line
10:41of defense.
10:42Right.
10:42And even there was
10:43a couple plays with Vocky
10:45where it's like,
10:46oh, one yard gain.
10:47And then all of a sudden
10:47he's straight for like
10:48seven yards.
10:49And it's like,
10:49oh, wow, okay.
10:51That was cool.
10:52Good job.
10:53And Vocky,
10:55that was...
10:56I think we talked about it
10:56last Monday too
10:57is do they have to start
10:58looking for a number two guy
11:00to start taking
11:00some of this workload
11:01off Gibbs
11:02because through the
11:02first five games
11:03it was probably going
11:05to be unsustainable
11:06when you get to
11:07November and December
11:08football asking
11:09your running back
11:10to carry the ball
11:1135 times
11:12or 35 touches,
11:13whatever it was
11:13he was averaging.
11:15Vocky,
11:15he showed up,
11:16man.
11:16He took care of the football
11:17and there was even
11:18a couple pass protections
11:20in there.
11:20He's getting his nose
11:21in there.
11:22And that's how you
11:22earn yourself more
11:23playing time
11:23as a running back.
11:24If you can be
11:25a third down guy
11:26not only catching the ball,
11:28team like Minnesota,
11:29can you pick up
11:29a middle linebacker
11:30that's just screaming
11:31through the A-gap
11:32unblocked?
11:32And he,
11:33I think he earned
11:35a lot of trust
11:36yesterday
11:37for this offense,
11:38for the coaching staff
11:39and from his teammates
11:40to say,
11:40okay,
11:41we don't have to
11:41put it all on
11:43Jameer.
11:43When Jameer's out
11:44of the game,
11:44we don't have to
11:45panic or do
11:45anything extra.
11:47Vocky showed
11:48yesterday,
11:48now he's got to
11:49prove he can be
11:49consistent with it,
11:50but he showed
11:51that he can be
11:51a reliable guy
11:52to come in
11:53and take some
11:53of that wear
11:54and tear
11:54off of Jameer.
11:55Jameer was
11:56unbelievable
11:56yesterday too.
11:57Again,
11:58man,
11:58he's so special.
11:59Vocky heard TJ
12:00on the show
12:01last week
12:01and said,
12:01oh,
12:01you need a
12:02number two
12:02running back.
12:03Yeah.
12:03I'll show you.
12:05Let me step up.
12:06I think he had
12:06one carry
12:1065 yards
12:11and you're right,
12:12running through
12:12some tough contact.
12:13That's big.
12:13If he could be
12:14consistent with it,
12:15that's the challenge
12:15now.
12:16Got some text
12:17to get to,
12:17some phone calls
12:18as well,
12:18248-539-9797.
12:20Phone calls
12:21and feedback,
12:22TJ Lang in.
12:23It's 97.1.