00:00Joining me right now, Dan Helley, of course, of Channel 4 fame, of NFL Network fame,
00:10and last week with Riggo and Brian Mitchell doing the preseason game,
00:15and he'll be on the call for the game on Saturday against Detroit as well.
00:20First of all, I haven't talked to you in a while, and I'm so glad to catch up.
00:24I thought you guys were really good, and I know that you're probably self-critical
00:29and you can point out the things that you didn't love, but overall, you've got a good feel for this.
00:35You've been doing college football play-by-play, college basketball play-by-play, UFC play-by-play.
00:42Overall, what did you think?
00:44I thought we had a lot of fun.
00:46I think in the preseason, chemistry is hard to create, and we've never worked together before as a crew.
00:55And, you know, Riggo hasn't been in a broadcast booth for 30 years.
00:59He was telling a funny story about the last time he was actually calling a game was with Dick Stockton.
01:04And so that was a long time ago, and Beamich clearly dialed in because he does a daily radio show
01:11and the pregame shows and is uber-involved with the team.
01:14But I was really pleased with it.
01:16You know, we had some moments after a rough start by the commanders, and I think we kind of found
01:22our groove.
01:23You know, that's the one thing you worry about, especially as a play-by-play guy,
01:26who's kind of the point guard of that broadcast, is I don't want to step on those guys.
01:30I want to give them enough room.
01:32And I think for the most part, we did that.
01:34Certainly there were some areas we could clean up, but I think we had fun.
01:38You know, I talked about this on the show, that doing preseason football games is not easy for the play
01:47-by-play guy.
01:48There are 90 players that potentially could participate in the game.
01:52I've done, you know, college football before where, you know, that week one when you have, like, depth charts,
01:59but, you know, they're like four and five.
02:01It's not a three deep.
02:02It's like a six deep because there are over 100 players.
02:06And that's a big challenge going into a game in which you haven't seen the team, right?
02:13You have to be prepared for that.
02:16Well, it's huge.
02:17You have double numbers.
02:18You also have guys.
02:19You know, the way we do it is there's a guy named Tony Britt who prepares, we call them our
02:24boards.
02:25Basically, it's our depth chart that is oversized, and we write things on,
02:31and they put the stats in from the last couple of years,
02:33and we take all our notes from our production meetings and our coaches' meetings
02:36and things that we've read and that we've learned, and that's our Bible, right?
02:41So we have a spotter, and we have a stack guy, and the spotter helps me kind of identify who
02:46makes the tackle.
02:47But, you know, college, they're double numbers.
02:50The NFL, you've got 90 guys on the roster.
02:52There's three.
02:53You know, just this week, they added five or six new players to the team and released a few guys.
02:58So you get this chart on Tuesday, and then all of a sudden you're adding names and crossing out numbers
03:06and doing all this crazy stuff.
03:07You just want to make sure you have the right guy who makes the play, you know?
03:10Yeah, and you're a pro, and you understand the difference between a regular season game
03:18and a preseason NFL game.
03:21And I thought what you understood as sort of the keep-the-trains-on-time guy was,
03:28look, this is as much of a talk show and trying to entertain over a three-hour period as it
03:35is,
03:35you know, game flow, score, time, all of that.
03:40It's just much different than a regular season game, correct?
03:44Oh, it's entirely different.
03:45You know, I did the Titans preseason games for six years with Charles Davis.
03:49Wow.
03:49I didn't know that.
03:50Yeah, we were there during the, you know, the Mike Vrabel era and a year or two prior.
03:57So I have a pretty good feel for the preseason games, but you're exactly right.
04:01You know, if the starters are in or the backups are in or there's position battles,
04:06those are all things you need to address.
04:07But if, you know, I think this last game we had a long conversation about the worst turf in the
04:14NFL
04:14when Riggo and Beamich played.
04:16Yeah, when the Dolphins are up easily.
04:20You know, the Dolphins are driving using their third stringers in the third quarter.
04:25I don't feel the need to say that it was a, you know, a two-yard gain by Anthony Hankerson.
04:32You know, like, I think we're okay, you know, continuing the conversation for a little while.
04:35So you got, you know, you got to pick and choose your spots.
04:37But you're right.
04:38Once you get in the second half of the preseason games, you know, there's a lot of big picture stuff.
04:42There's a lot of chatting about position battles.
04:45And it's really fun to get, you know, those guys' outlook.
04:48And especially, you know, the running back position with Riggo talking about guys like K-Tron Allen and Robert Henry.
04:54And I think he was especially impressed by Robert Henry.
04:58I don't think many people really knew a whole lot about him before that game.
05:01And that was his, I guess you could say his coming out moment.
05:05But it seems to work this way, especially for running backs in preseason.
05:10You saw it towards the end of the game.
05:11You know, they're going to run a vanilla offense against a vanilla defense.
05:15And they're just going to, once they've seen everything they need to see,
05:19they're just going to run those guys to death to run down the clock.
05:22You know, one of the things over the years in doing this for this long, I've always tried to get,
05:29especially when I was doing the pregame show for the Skins Radio Network, which I did for like 14 years,
05:36I would always try to get the play-by-play guy on the show or the game analyst.
05:41Because they had this access to the coach and the quarterback and sometimes another, you know,
05:49two or three people on that Friday before a Sunday game.
05:53And they got more than most of the beat reporters would get.
05:57They'd get some nuggets that I think the coaches and or the quarterback would save and give to them.
06:04And I always found it to be pretty instructive and pretty informative.
06:07And sometimes we'd get stuff that, hey, we didn't know that.
06:12Do you have that access for these preseason games?
06:17And, I mean, how much of that did you take to the air on Friday night?
06:23That's a great question.
06:24And I've been there at every level, right?
06:27I've been the local reporter who hosts the coaches show.
06:30I've been the national host at NFL Network.
06:34And I've been doing the games.
06:36And I would say second only to probably newsbreakers and insiders who are constantly in contact with the coaches
06:43in terms of knowledge and value are these production meetings that we have with the coaches and coordinators
06:49and sometimes some players before the games.
06:53And, yeah, they tell you who they expect is going to be playing and generally who's going to be out
06:58there first
06:58and a lot of times how long they plan on playing the guys.
07:02And a lot of it's just for background, you know, just so you're talking about position battles
07:09or who we could be seeing a little bit later.
07:12And it really ranges, too, the amount of information and the willingness to share from head coach to head coach.
07:20And, you know, the coordinators will give you, especially during a regular season game a lot of times,
07:26a little bit more about the game plan, but it's the head coach who's going to tell you, you know,
07:31who's hurt, who's playing.
07:33They always defer to him.
07:36But, yeah, it is incredibly informative.
07:39You learn a ton about these teams when you talk to the coaches.
07:44And, you know, I also got a chat with Adam Peters for 15 or 20 minutes.
07:47And he was very insightful in terms of, you know, what he thought about certain guys
07:53and what he was excited about with the team this year.
07:56And it's all helpful just in terms of background.
07:59You know, you have to be the expert on whatever team you're doing that week.
08:04And that's not always the easiest thing to do.
08:07I'm kind of going – I'm spinning it ahead to college football, right?
08:10I'm going to dip into Texas Tech for my first game of the year.
08:12And, obviously, they had a very eventful offseason.
08:15Sure.
08:15And it's their time to share or to spin or however they see it fit to use that time.
08:25And I always find that the guys who share more kind of get it because they realize,
08:31especially on the college football level, this is an advertisement for your team for three hours.
08:37Yeah.
08:37This is a national advertisement for your team.
08:40This is a recruiting pitch for everybody who's watching this game.
08:43It's obviously different in the NFL.
08:47But you have to build up that trust.
08:48There are certain coaches that won't give you much.
08:52And if you've done a couple of their games, by that second or third game, they're giving you more.
08:56You know, I had that example in Tennessee when I was doing the preseason games.
09:00And Mike Vrabel came in.
09:02And it took me a year or two to where he realized my paycheck was coming from the same place
09:08as his.
09:09You know?
09:10The team pays the preseason broadcasters.
09:13It's very different than calling a regular season game, whether it be NFL or college.
09:20But the background, it just helps us sound educated and be educated when we're talking about these specific position battles,
09:29especially during the preseason.
09:30Well, what can you share with us that isn't going to be out of school about what you've learned from,
09:37you know,
09:38one of the conversations you've had with various people about how they feel about the team?
09:44I was surprised, not by how good they feel, but the position groups and how much better they feel.
09:52I think they were, when you come off an NFC Championship game, the next step is the Super Bowl.
09:57Right?
09:58So last year, it was a much older roster.
10:01And everybody was thinking the next step was the Super Bowl.
10:04And then injuries happened and life happened and football happened.
10:07Right?
10:07It didn't go that way.
10:09For them, injuries happened all season long.
10:12Yeah.
10:12Exactly.
10:13It was, you know, when your best guys are hurt, you're not going to be able to win.
10:18But they feel so good about some of the weaknesses last year, right?
10:24The defense is completely revamped.
10:26You're going to have, you know, seven, eight new starters on the defensive side of the ball.
10:31The wide receiver room, I don't know that I've ever seen before the change in perception after one player is
10:39added,
10:39that after training camp has been started.
10:42And, of course, I'm referring to Stefan Diggs, right?
10:44Everybody now kind of falls into their natural slot or role.
10:49And I think I said this during the broadcast.
10:51You know, Dan Quinn said there are eight receivers on our roster right now who were good enough to be
10:58on the 53 last year.
11:01So they're going to be cutting guys, whether it be the wide receiver room or the tight end room or
11:07defensively, that are going to be playing in the NFL next year.
11:11And I don't know that you could say the same thing about last year, right?
11:15So that's a good feeling.
11:16You've done something right when you are blessed with enough talent on the roster to be letting guys go that
11:22are going to be playing for other teams next year.
11:24So they just feel really good about where they are.
11:28You know, they feel really good about Brandon Coleman.
11:31They feel like left tackle is his best and most natural position.
11:36And he got a good look last week.
11:38He was, I believe, along with Chris Paul, the only starters that played on the offensive line.
11:45And they wanted them in there to protect Marcus.
11:48And then obviously Marcus gets banged up anyway to no fault of anyone's.
11:52But so, yeah, I think they feel really good, really good about where they are.
11:59Obviously, the Tunsil hit stinks.
12:02I mean, he's a top two, top three left tackle in the world.
12:06And that sucks.
12:07But they do feel confident that Coleman can fit in there nicely.
12:13Do you have any sense, you know, not only based on the time that you've spent with them and getting
12:21ready for this preseason,
12:23but sort of the chronology of the last several months as it deals with that other receiver,
12:31and it ended up being digs, but for a while there was a lot of conversation about Ayuk until he
12:37kind of left the reservation on social media.
12:40But do you have a sense of what you think Adam Peters and company, what they were thinking, let's just
12:47say, post-draft about the receiver room?
12:50Because clearly it is a lot better than it was last year.
12:54But what do you think they really wanted to do?
12:59I think that Ayuk was probably in the conversation at some point and that he talked himself or posted himself
13:10out of that conversation.
13:12You know, I think they probably had, I think Diggs and Ayuk and, you know, Keenan Allen, maybe a couple
13:19other guys, they were looking at them all.
13:21You know, they wanted to upgrade there.
13:24I think they couldn't be happier with the way that things worked out with Steph.
13:30And I think they're really excited about Antonio Williams.
13:35But, you know, if you don't have Steph, then all of a sudden everybody else is playing more.
13:42They carry a larger burden.
13:44And now it's just everybody's kind of where they're supposed to be, you know.
13:48And then there's going to be, there's going to be a breakout guy.
13:51There's going to be a, they're going to have to make some really hard decisions, right?
13:54You have your, you have your, your kick and punt returners, right?
13:58Say, let's just say if, if Jalen Lane and Luke McCaffrey are going to take two spots in that wide
14:05receiver room because they're your returners.
14:09You know, where does that put, where does that put Jefferson?
14:12Where does that put Burks?
14:13I think Brown's probably good because, you know, he's a different receiver than a lot of those other guys are.
14:19But I'm also, I'm telling you, this Jalen Bradley kid can play.
14:22He nearly blocked two punts.
14:25I mean, and that's the kind of thing that we probably didn't talk about enough that B. Mitch was all
14:31over.
14:32Yeah.
14:32And we did mention it.
14:34But that's the kind of thing that could put him over the top, right, in terms of making the 53.
14:39Like, if they can use him in some of these other roles on special teams.
14:41But he's, he's a big kid.
14:45He's a local guy.
14:48He's, I know I said this on the broadcast, that he, they brought him in for a local tryout.
14:54And Adam Peters said it was probably the best local tryout he had ever seen.
15:00And this is a kid that was well-traveled.
15:01He started his career at Pitt and he went to Charlotte.
15:03And then he wrapped up at UNLV, the new era of college football that we're in.
15:07That's the other thing.
15:08The part about calling these games is trying to list off the four or five schools that some of these
15:12kids went to sometimes.
15:13But I had, I had one or two of his games over the last couple of years.
15:18And he's, you know, he can play.
15:20And then the other guy that we didn't, we didn't hear much about, and we haven't heard as much about,
15:27is Nick Nash.
15:28That wide receiver from San Jose State that had over 100 catches one year.
15:31Yeah.
15:31He used to be a quarterback.
15:32Massive production in college.
15:34Yeah.
15:36So, where do you think everybody in that building is right now on Jaden Daniels entering year three?
15:43I think their number one concern is just hoping that he can get through the season healthy.
15:48You know, he has been picking up the offense, which I don't think is a surprise, maybe faster than they
15:56anticipated.
15:57You know, David Blau came into his, he started his coaching career essentially with Jaden, right, like as the assistant
16:03quarterback coach.
16:04He's been alongside of him all three years.
16:07The trust level there between the two is through the roof.
16:12I don't think they could be any happier with his performance and the way that he has progressed in this
16:19new offensive system.
16:20And to be honest, I don't think we're going to see it at all in the preseason.
16:25I jokingly asked David Blau, what percentage of your offense are you going to show in these next couple games?
16:33And he said zero.
16:36Yeah, right, yeah.
16:37I don't know that we're going to see, you know, we're not even going to see him come out, you
16:43know, I think with 11 and 12 personnel the whole game.
16:45And I don't know because I haven't talked to them leading up to this next game yet.
16:50But I would imagine that that's going to kind of be the game plan, you know, the whole preseason is
16:55not to show much, if anything, at all.
16:57Did you have a chance to sit with Blau and with Durante Jones?
17:02We did.
17:03We talked with both of them.
17:05Everybody who was doing the radio crew and the TV crew all chatted with them together.
17:12So first impressions?
17:15Well, I've listened to a lot of – I've seen a lot of stuff with Blau.
17:20He's done a couple of podcasts, and I've been kind of following him a little bit.
17:28He's really – what's the word I'm looking for?
17:33Kind of cerebral.
17:35You know, he's just a very smart guy.
17:37Everybody talks about the relationship piece and how inclusive he is, and that trickles up.
17:46I don't know if you can trickle up, but to Dan Quinn, right?
17:49Like, he's just very inclusive of the whole staff, and everybody has a say and does their part.
17:56And, you know, Durante just – he just seems to get it.
18:00He's been with Flores.
18:02He's been part of some really good defenses.
18:05He ran his own show at LSU in 21.
18:08Another local guy, which I appreciate, you know, he's coming home and where he grew up, you know, Bishop McNamara
18:15High School.
18:16And he's a smart dude.
18:17Like, he just – when – he is tailoring his defense to what his guys do best.
18:23And, again, I don't know that we're going to see that in the preseason, but, you know, he made it
18:27very clear when we were talking about his system.
18:30And he said, it's not my system that these guys have to adjust to.
18:34It's me.
18:35Any good coach would say the same thing, right?
18:37It's my system that has to adjust to my personnel.
18:40And he feels pretty good about the personnel that he has.
18:43You know, I'm curious to see game two for Sonny Stiles.
18:47You know, he had that one drive.
18:49It was his first game.
18:50Everything's just kind of happening.
18:52It was a little bit of a blur.
18:53And, you know, I've seen that he's taken a little heat for the way things went down.
18:56But it was – there might have been two starters out there defensively, you know, against the ones from Miami.
19:03And I understand that the commanders are expected to be a significantly better team this year than Miami, which will
19:08be one of the worst in the NFL.
19:10But I really don't think you can judge your, you know, seventh overall draft pick.
19:16You don't think so?
19:18Because I just found what I read on the show yesterday, and I'll read it as if it was written
19:22to you, from Joel.
19:24He writes, I guess you hadn't heard, Dan.
19:26Twitter has already gone through the All-22 and definitively determined after a couple of preseason series that Sonny Stiles
19:34is a bust.
19:37I mean –
19:37I just watched it.
19:38I actually watched it.
19:39I think it was Dove Kleiman that put something out.
19:41And it was a flip-up of that drive.
19:43Oh, my God.
19:44I mean, can you imagine being a real football fan and thinking that the one drive in a preseason game
19:51is a rookie, you can actually figure anything out.
19:56Bless their hearts.
19:58We have Dan Helley on the show, and he'll be calling the game Saturday in Detroit.
20:04It's a 12 noon kick on Channel 9 locally.
20:08You know, as of the recording of this, there is kind of a coin flip-ish nature to whether or
20:16not we're going to see any of the starters, in part because they ended up not going padded practice yesterday.
20:22They went padded practice today.
20:23Are you expecting to see, Jaden, and some starters on offense and defense?
20:30I would think that if you're not having joint practices – and this is what most teams do in the
20:36NFL, has been my experience over the last few years – is that when you don't have those joint practices,
20:42that's the game.
20:43If there is a game in which you play your starters, Sean McVay, for instance, out here in Los Angeles,
20:48doesn't play starters, period, ever, preseason, doesn't do it.
20:51And those joint practices are game situations, and being that there are no joint practices this week, yeah, I would
21:00think it's more likely than not that we see those guys out there for a couple of drives.
21:04Again, I have no information.
21:06I haven't talked to anybody, but that's what I would think most teams are thinking in the preseason.
21:14And then I would expect, too, even though it's vanilla, that you want to get your guys out there and
21:19get them a good look and maybe see a couple of passes from Jaden to Steph and Terry and a
21:27couple of the tight ends.
21:29But I don't know.
21:30Maybe Marcus going down scared the bejesus out of them.
21:35You know, I know we got a long look at Hartman and Callie McManus, but, you know, neither one of
21:41them is the experienced backup that Marcus Mariota is.
21:45And maybe they don't want to put Jaden out there.
21:48So I'll be curious.
21:49I don't know when they're going to talk about it.
21:51I know that Dan said these next two days were really important, and it sounded like he was going to
21:57be deciding after today, maybe Thursday.
22:03So, yeah, I mean, it would be nice to see him.
22:05I think everybody would like to see him out there, right?
22:07Yeah, I mean, I think I would.
22:09It's a new coordinator.
22:10It's a new center.
22:11It's a new receiver.
22:12It's a new back.
22:14Everything's new.
22:15He hasn't taken a snap since early December last year.
22:19And even if he were to play a series or two, it would be another 20-something days until he
22:24takes a snap again.
22:25So, yeah, I mean, I'd like to see it.
22:28But I always feel like that's one of those conversations where we really don't know.
22:32Like, they know, and they know how ready they really are.
22:37I'd just like to see, with the starting quarterback, David Blau, be on the headset and work a series before
22:43doing it for the first time in Philadelphia in the season opener.
22:47But that's just me.
22:48I don't know.
22:49Yeah, I would love to see it, too.
22:52You know, their rebuttal would be, well, that's what we do in joint practices and every single day of practice
22:57is, you know, on the headset.
23:00But there isn't a stadium.
23:01There's not a clock.
23:02There's not fans.
23:03There's not real referees.
23:05There's not a play clock that you're looking at.
23:07You know, there's all of those things, like in a stadium.
23:10But, again, to your point, they may just say...
23:13There's a play clock and they're all real.
23:14No, I know.
23:15But I'm just saying, it's not the exact same.
23:17But to your point, they may say, no, this is a replica.
23:21We're good.
23:22Yeah.
23:23They know more than we do.
23:25And I don't know, to be honest, I don't...
23:27I mean, I know as a fan and as a broadcaster what I would like to see.
23:33But I don't know what the right answer is.
23:34Are you going to tell Sean McVay not playing the center ever in preseason since he's been in L.A.?
23:39Is the wrong move?
23:40Probably not.
23:40Yeah.
23:41That's kind of my point.
23:43I mean, I don't think we really know.
23:44And it's, you know, they know a lot more than we do when it comes to everything.
23:50But in this particular conversation, it just seems to be a conversation we have every mid to late August.
23:56Because what other conversations are we going to have?
23:58All right.
23:59So, let me finish with a couple of quick ones.
24:04You already mentioned the wide receiver room.
24:06And we've been talking about it, you know, all summer long.
24:09And, you know, I know they love Van Jefferson and it would be hard to cut him and they might
24:15have to.
24:16Who knows?
24:16And it's a crowded room.
24:19Do you think for them this is the area that will be the hardest to cut down to say from
24:25wherever they are now, 8, 9, 10 to 7 or 8, whatever the number ends up being?
24:29Is this the position group that's going to be the hardest for them?
24:33Yeah, I think so.
24:35I mean, tight end is not going to be easy either.
24:37Right.
24:38I mean, Yankoff has been playing great.
24:41You kind of have your guys in, you know, Chig and John Bates who are slotted in there.
24:46And, you know, you have Sinnott who's been around for a minute.
24:50But is it a Yankoff-Sinnott competition?
24:56You know, you've got Mark Cager there.
24:59I think running back is going to be a little bit easier.
25:02You're just going to have to decide, are you keeping four running back?
25:06You can't keep, in terms of the skilled players, you can't keep four running back, six receivers, four tight ends.
25:12You know, you've got to make decisions, right?
25:14So, one position group is going to affect the other.
25:17But, yeah, I would think that, I would think the receiver is going to be the toughest.
25:22By the way, in watching Henry Jr., and I heard Riggo talking about it, and you and Brian,
25:28I mean, you know, there are things you can observe that have nothing to do with, you know, the actual
25:34game or down in distance.
25:36That dude's just a natural runner.
25:38And I went back and looked at this, and he opened up last year against one of the best college
25:45defensive teams in the country in A&M.
25:48He rushed for 177 yards and 11.2 yards per carry in a game that was halfway competitive.
25:55A&M won the game by two scores.
25:58But A&M's defense, by the end of the year, I mean, Miami really got to them in that playoff
26:02game on the ground, but it took three quarters to get there.
26:05I just thought that guy actually really looked the part, especially for, like, a zone run scheme.
26:13Yeah, I think he was great.
26:15And I said this on the broadcast, I believe it was, I don't remember who they played, but I had
26:21one of his games last year.
26:22And I'm like, who is this kid?
26:24And from week, I don't know, five or six to week nine, he was the second leading rusher in college
26:33football.
26:34He was, like, crazy good.
26:39And the way that he moves is so different than Allen.
26:43Allen is a, you know, 220-pound, you know, bowling ball when he gets his pads on.
26:49And Henry just has, like, he has juice.
26:53The way he moves is different.
26:57And that's going to be a big question, right?
26:59Where, you know, behind Bill and Rashad White, how healthy is McNichols, you know?
27:06Right.
27:07Jerome Ford has been placed on the physically inactive list, right?
27:11So then is one of those guys going to be the third-string guy?
27:16I think it depends on, I don't know, maybe what they're doing on special teams
27:20and which one can catch better coming out of the backfield, because they're very different backs.
27:25Very different.
27:26Henry and Allen.
27:27But we're going to be seeing more of them, probably, than we see of anybody else in these next two
27:33preseason.
27:33No doubt.
27:33And they had him back on punts.
27:35They had him back on kicks.
27:36Clearly, they wanted to see it, you know, kind of under the lights to see whether or not what they
27:42were seeing all along was real.
27:45So I'll finish up with this, although I do want to ask you about your college schedule.
27:48Is there a player that you think they're really excited about that might be a surprise to, you know, the
27:58fan that's even paying attention to the preseason?
28:01Is there somebody that you've gotten a sense, God, they really like this guy?
28:07I think they really like Joshua Josephs, the rookie out of Tennessee.
28:15He was drafted in the fifth round, and I feel like they think he's going to play this year.
28:24That he will contribute in some form or another.
28:30So defensively, I think they really like him.
28:35And I think they're excited.
28:36I think they're excited about Antonio Williams, too.
28:38I just don't know, you know, given the situation in the receiver room, how big of an impact he has
28:45right away.
28:46But, and, you know, the other obvious ones, you know, the Chig and Steph.
28:51Right.
28:52You know, we haven't heard much about Rashad White, and I feel like he's going to have a massive impact
29:00on this offense this year.
29:01I agree.
29:02Totally agree.
29:04Yeah.
29:06But, yeah, that's kind of some of the young guys and some of the old guys.
29:09And, you know, I'm excited for the season to start, even though I'm not going to be doing the games.
29:15Because I want to see what they are.
29:16Because it's a completely different team.
29:19You know, everything that they wanted to achieve in the offseason, upgrade the defense, find another weapon for Jaden, get
29:28another running back who can catch out of the backfield.
29:31They did all of them.
29:33You know, and not everything was plan A.
29:38Right?
29:38They tried to sign some other receivers and threw a lot of money at some guys, and it didn't work
29:42out.
29:42But plan A isn't always the best plan.
29:46All right.
29:47Well, you're really good at doing this.
29:49And the challenge that you have for preseason games, you guys easily met that challenge on Friday night, and I'm
29:57sure it'll happen again on Saturday at noon.
30:01Thanks for doing this.
30:02Good to catch up.
30:03Hope you're well.
30:04Thanks, brother.
30:05Thanks for having me on.
30:06Dan Helley.
30:08You'll note that we recorded that yesterday because he was talking about practice tomorrow, as in today, and maybe getting
30:17some answers about starters.
30:19Dan Quinn did say some starters are going to play Saturday, but did not say whether or not any of
30:25them would be Jaden Daniels.
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