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(Current Affairs)
Host:
- Kashif Abbasi
Guests:
- Senator Humayun Mohmand PTI
- Saira Bano GDA
- Faisal Karim Kundi PPP
"Govt ko is waqt tail ki qeematein nahi barhani chahiye thi," Faisal Karim Kundi
"Jisne kabhi apne paiso se petrol na bharwaya ho...," Saira Bano blasts government over petrol price
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Host:
- Kashif Abbasi
Guests:
- Senator Humayun Mohmand PTI
- Saira Bano GDA
- Faisal Karim Kundi PPP
"Govt ko is waqt tail ki qeematein nahi barhani chahiye thi," Faisal Karim Kundi
"Jisne kabhi apne paiso se petrol na bharwaya ho...," Saira Bano blasts government over petrol price
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01:48 and how much more are we going to benefit from it.
01:50 Let's listen to the journey that the PDM has made.
01:53 Oil and Gas are coming from the sky, and you have taken out the oil from this nation.
01:59 We have kept a stone on our hearts and increased the price of petroleum.
02:05 This difficult decision today is a key step to bringing about economic recovery from the current crisis.
02:12 It is a sad news that the government has increased the prices of petroleum and gas, which has added to the problems of the people.
02:19 Keeping the national interests in mind, it is important that the minimum calculated rate increase be passed.
02:27 The Muslim League and the opposition PDM will not give the government permission to increase the price of oil for a single penny.
02:33 They have made the price of oil expensive here. I was asking them to increase the price from the first day.
02:37 And when we took this decision, and when we did it, then Pakistan became financially stable.
02:44 You did not feel ashamed to increase the price of oil for a single penny in the middle of the night?
02:49 Today, after 15 months, I can say with a high head that the decision was made to improve the economy of the country.
02:56 Today, the petrol bomb fell on the people like lightning. When petrol is expensive, then lightning is expensive.
03:04 Shahbaz Sharif says that when I have to increase the price of a liter for a single rupee, then the apocalypse passes on my heart.
03:13 Today, the prices of petrol have increased, it will not take long for the prices of electricity to increase.
03:18 We have made difficult decisions, a little late, but we have done it. We will make more difficult decisions.
03:24 The increase in petrol and diesel for 30 rupees has shaken the roots of the nation.
03:30 We have made the most difficult decisions for the future of Pakistan.
03:37 So these are difficult decisions. First, this petrol bomb used to happen.
03:43 I have a tweet from Maryam Nawaz Sharif Sahiba that Mian Sahib used to oppose such decisions.
03:49 She used to rule her own government, but she was not the Minister of Treasury.
03:54 She was Mifta Ismail. And Mian Sahib even said in a meeting that he cannot put a single rupee burden on the people.
04:02 If the government has any compulsion, then I am not involved in this decision.
04:05 And Mian Nawaz Sharif left the meeting. And today we have seen the inflation of petrol.
04:12 You will remember this government. I came to Islamabad after marching.
04:17 At that time, too, it was the IMF program. All this is because of the IMF program.
04:24 Historically, we did not take the decisions that should have been taken for the economy.
04:27 But when there was a previous government, there was an inflationary march against these prices.
04:32 From irresponsible statements to responsible statements, we have seen this too.
04:39 The problem is that our economy is politicized.
04:43 Obviously, Pakistan's history has been the same. Tariq Ansaf did the same.
04:47 We cannot listen to Imran Khan's statements. We have to listen to Asad Umar.
04:50 When the previous government, that is, the government of 2013, used to do Muslim League Noon,
04:53 then the PTI also said that the tax on petrol should be abolished.
04:58 GST was increased for the poor. This year, 34% GST was increased on diesel.
05:06 Governor, why has the core inflation doubled? Obviously, the oil prices have increased.
05:11 Petroleum is being stolen. The highest taxation in Pakistan's history.
05:15 Diesel was taxed at 100%. Petrol 51%.
05:20 When economic policy is wrong, the people have to bear the consequences.
05:25 So this is a history of Pakistan's politics.
05:29 But this government, that is, Shabaz Sharif Sahib said this a few times,
05:34 that I will fix this economy in six months, otherwise change my name.
05:38 Now this economy is getting out of hand. Petrol is expensive, diesel is expensive, dollar is out of control.
05:44 Listen to what he used to say.
05:46 I promise this nation that if we get a chance,
05:49 then God willing, we will put this ruined economy on its feet in six months.
05:54 If we get a chance, then along with this opposition,
05:58 we will fix the economy of Pakistan in six months, otherwise keep my name, Imran Niazi.
06:06 How electricity is stolen, this mafia, this Nasr, this cancer, we will have to cut it from the roots.
06:12 If we get a chance, Nawaz Sharif, then we will do this work in the first six months.
06:17 And finally, let's talk about this again, our guests have also come.
06:21 Our funds of 6 trillion have come out, hope has come out.
06:25 Pakistan should also progress.
06:27 But in the last two or three days, I heard that there is some 6 trillion dollars of soil in Pakistan.
06:33 I am very happy to hear this. You also listen.
06:37 As it has been said, this has been a journey of 75 years,
06:42 that we have with us deposits worth 6 trillion dollars, and yet where we stand today.
06:48 Pakistan's only material, only the soil that has to be dug out,
06:53 Pakistan's material, their value is 6.1 trillion dollars.
07:01 So, we have this soil of 6 trillion dollars.
07:03 Let's see what happens. I remember a while ago, Shabaz Sharif announced,
07:07 some gold ears were also found in some notes, which would have been able to pay our debts,
07:10 but later it was found that it was a political statement.
07:14 Mr. Faisal Kundi, thank you very much.
07:16 Mr. Saira Bano, thank you too.
07:18 Senator Mahi Mohamad, thank you to you too.
07:21 Sir, this is going to go to the elections after 7 days, 8 days, so much of petrol,
07:25 I know it is a responsible, difficult decision.
07:27 This is not a petrol bomb, it is a difficult decision.
07:30 But, how will we go to the elections after this?
07:33 Today, you are looking good in a black suit and tie.
07:36 Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim.
07:38 The minister always looks good in a suit. I am telling you this.
07:40 No, today you are a lawyer.
07:42 Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim.
07:44 Which place have you brought me to?
07:46 I will come to the law-makers.
07:47 You have to become a lawyer in this country when you do such law-making.
07:50 No, no, you, if we are looking for excuses and doing things,
07:55 then there are many excuses for that, why we have put so much effort.
07:58 But, I think that today, to increase the price of petrol by 20 rupees,
08:01 it is very difficult to defend this.
08:03 Can we say that we can defend this, that the price of petrol is 19.5 zero or 20 rupees.
08:10 So, I think that for the public...
08:11 You have reduced the price by 45 rupees, 19.95.
08:15 Today is your day, you can say whatever you want.
08:17 Why is it my day?
08:19 Your day is going to pass, the sadness of your face is telling me that the minister is going.
08:25 But, from where is my day?
08:26 Pakistan has seen many leaders, many opposition, things keep coming.
08:30 We will continue to do the same program with you.
08:33 But, what has happened, I think that we have targeted the government in the past also.
08:37 You used to say that petrol bomb, it was not said that petrol bomb,
08:41 PTA people did not say that, but we used to say that petrol bomb is there.
08:43 They also used to say that.
08:44 And today we also say that it is a very injustice on the people of Pakistan,
08:49 that the price of petrol has been increased.
08:51 To defend this, we can make any excuse like IMF.
08:54 But, I do not think that the government should have increased the price of petrol.
08:59 There are difficulties, we understand that there are difficulties.
09:01 But, difficulties...
09:02 What can the government do?
09:03 My opinion is that the place where the economy is standing, you will have to make this decision.
09:08 There is no other way.
09:10 See, the economy is in a stranglehold.
09:11 In your economy, the slogans of default are being raised for the past two years.
09:14 You go to the IMF and say that if you do this, you will get money.
09:18 IMF gives money, so the other countries give money.
09:20 What options do you have?
09:22 We have the option that we have given free hand to the elite class,
09:27 you will have to bring them under the tax net.
09:30 The inflation is destroying your middle class and lower class.
09:35 You are not becoming an elite class.
09:37 If you go to Islamabad, you will not find a place in any restaurant.
09:40 You will not find a table.
09:42 And you will not find a car on the road whose petrol is over.
09:46 See, the two Vigo that we used to take for Shosha, no one has done one.
09:51 But the thing is that you will have to bring this class under the tax net.
09:54 We always crush our middle class or lower class.
09:58 We have never brought the elite class under this tax net.
10:03 And we have always left them.
10:05 Whatever government comes, a lawyer is made for them,
10:07 how to give them royalty.
10:09 You are an elite.
10:10 Everyone sitting here is an elite.
10:12 No, no, I am saying that whatever government comes, I am with it.
10:14 I said whatever government comes, I have not said any such government.
10:18 But these things should not happen.
10:20 These things, until you do not give relief,
10:22 what difference will it make in our government, in the past government, in the previous government.
10:26 There is no difference.
10:27 We are the same thing.
10:28 They were also destroying, you are destroying.
10:30 No, the difference between them and us is that we are not.
10:33 You are destroying well, they are doing better.
10:35 No, no, no, the difference is that whatever problems we have faced, we have not done anything against our party.
10:49 You are saying that the difference between us and them is 9 months.
10:51 No, you were also a terrorist.
10:53 You said that, I am not saying that.
10:55 No, we are saying that we have to give relief to people.
10:57 Today, no one can defend the price of petrol.
11:01 I understand that, historically people's party government has been like this.
11:08 You know, the statement is at least pro-poor.
11:11 But the problem is that…
11:13 You are also hitting the stick here.
11:14 No, no, I am saying the statement because,
11:16 if you want to talk honestly, come with me to Sindh.
11:19 Let's go to Sindh.
11:21 We will go there and decide whether people's conditions in Sindh are better or worse.
11:26 Done.
11:27 Done.
11:28 Done.
11:29 Done.
11:30 Done.
11:31 Okay, let's go.
11:32 I will take you to Sanghar and its surroundings.
11:34 Sir, you will go to Sanghar and its surroundings.
11:36 But I always say this.
11:38 That day, I sat with some people of Tablighi Jamaat.
11:40 Listen to me.
11:41 They said that we went to the hospital.
11:42 There was no doctor in the hospital.
11:43 In Larkana.
11:44 Okay, okay.
11:45 Don't tell me this.
11:46 No, no, no, no, no. You don't have to argue on this.
11:58 If you ask me for credit, I will give you the credit.
12:01 People's Party for the last 5-6 years…
12:03 What are you talking about Gambit and NICVD?
12:04 NICVD. Good hospitals.
12:05 These are good initiatives.
12:06 I will never say that you have not done your work.
12:08 But look, you have been in power for 15-16 years.
12:10 Since 2008.
12:11 You have been in power for 16 years.
12:13 The people are voting.
12:15 Vote for them.
12:16 If we vote for them, it is wrong.
12:17 Absolutely right.
12:18 Why don't you vote for them?
12:20 No, no, no.
12:21 In the morning…
12:22 That's what I am saying.
12:23 The people are voting.
12:26 There are free and fair elections.
12:28 And the people are voting with all their heart.
12:31 This is what they want to say.
12:34 Isn't it so?
12:35 Yes.
12:36 Isn't it so?
12:37 It is.
12:38 I remember a meeting.
12:40 Then you will say that I am beating the drum.
12:42 Do you remember that the previous big shot, Mr. Bajwa, was sitting there.
12:45 Mr. Blavat also said, "Let me show you the videos that happened in Sindh."
12:49 Then you will decide.
12:50 We heard similar news about that meeting.
12:52 Why are you showing the video?
12:53 If he wanted, he would have done free and fair elections.
12:55 They don't do it in Sindh or in Punjab.
12:57 Nobody knows how the boxes were filled.
12:59 Sir, you are saying that you are showing the video.
13:01 Why are you doing it?
13:02 You are saying that we are doing it.
13:03 Why are you stopping us?
13:05 The way the RTS system was switched off.
13:07 Why was the RTS system switched off?
13:09 It should not be done.
13:10 I agree with you.
13:11 We are saying that we should have a strong minister who will not switch off the RTS system.
13:17 Kashif Abbasi will do it.
13:18 Absolutely.
13:19 We will get the lottery of the press.
13:21 We will get the lottery of the press.
13:23 It's a joke by the way.
13:25 The social media will say that you are a politician.
13:28 Petrol prices.
13:30 Do we see this in the context that the country we have brought in,
13:33 now there are compulsion here.
13:35 There is a difficult decision, but it is a difficult decision for everyone.
13:38 I am helpless and I don't understand that I am not telling you to come and speak the truth.
13:44 That it is absolutely right.
13:45 We cannot defend it.
13:46 So, what did you come here to take?
13:49 You showed in the beginning that the inflation, March,
13:51 the four voices that you are making speeches,
13:54 that people will be like this.
13:56 Now they have again said the name of inflation from someone's mouth.
13:59 What have they been doing for a year and a half?
14:01 They are making decisions for themselves.
14:03 Whatever they have done, they have made laws for themselves.
14:06 They have made laws for themselves and then…
14:08 They have made laws for themselves.
14:10 You and I were not in the case.
14:12 They have made laws for themselves.
14:14 Then they made laws for the EVM.
14:16 They made laws for overseas Pakistan.
14:19 Then we took from IMF.
14:21 I have said before that under the system of coins,
14:24 you have increased the pension.
14:26 We have so many treasures,
14:29 that we have increased the pension of judges,
14:31 increased the rank of the chairman of the senate.
14:33 Have you seen the rank of the chairman of the senate?
14:36 Yes, I have seen.
14:37 It is not written that only one marriage is allowed.
14:39 You are the second.
14:40 The second or third marriage is also the responsibility of the assembly.
14:43 If someone is in love, get them married.
14:45 I mean, there was one thing,
14:47 they themselves were holding a banner that petrol is expensive,
14:50 the prime minister is a thief.
14:52 And don't you feel ashamed?
14:54 You increase the petrol in the darkness of the night.
14:56 We have heard that.
14:57 Then they said,
14:58 "It is a matter of shame,
14:59 so we will increase the Nihar in the morning,
15:01 so that we can fill the tanks in the night,
15:03 and we will increase it in the morning."
15:05 And now they themselves have said that,
15:07 I don't know for whom Shabaz Sharif said,
15:09 "It is a bad government."
15:11 I think they are saying that
15:13 the inflation has increased,
15:15 it is a bad government,
15:17 I didn't understand.
15:19 And then they said,
15:21 "Keep my name."
15:23 I don't know if the PTI people will get upset
15:25 if I call them Imran Ahmed Niazi.
15:27 They said, "Keep my name."
15:29 They said, "Keep my name."
15:31 And they never filled their pockets with petrol.
15:33 If you keep their name,
15:35 then you will not be able to take their name on TV.
15:37 No, their name was ordered from the court,
15:39 not from the camera.
15:41 The information minister is also talking about the king,
15:43 which restriction is there?
15:45 They just left them,
15:47 and the difference is that,
15:49 they said, "You said that this country is destroyed."
15:51 Earlier, one group was destroying,
15:53 now 13 groups are doing it together.
15:55 There were many differences between them.
15:57 There was a double role in the films,
15:59 Amitabh Bachchan's double role.
16:01 There is a double role of MKM,
16:03 there is a double role of Kaaf League,
16:05 there is a double role of Baap Party.
16:07 There is a single role of Amitabh.
16:09 There is a single role of Amitabh.
16:11 So, it is just like that.
16:13 Do they have any pain of the people?
16:15 How can they feel that
16:17 they have never filled their pockets with petrol?
16:19 What are you talking about?
16:21 They get so many fuel cards.
16:23 They get allowances.
16:25 Have they ever done that?
16:27 Tell me one thing,
16:29 they said that the Vigo dollars have not decreased.
16:31 So, can't this system come in this country,
16:33 that V8 and Vigo dollar,
16:35 at least make them 500,
16:37 if they can afford it.
16:39 V8 is getting the same amount of petrol,
16:41 and a bike is also of 262.
16:43 It should be there.
16:45 Subsidies should be targeted for the poor.
16:47 Now, these coming ministers
16:49 are leaving problems for the Prime Minister.
16:51 Or they have come to know that
16:53 they are not coming
16:55 and they have said that
16:57 half of the work will be done by the other half.
16:59 It will be like this.
17:01 Dr. Sir, if you do it quickly,
17:03 then I will come to the legalization.
17:05 Do you want to say anything?
17:07 Petrol prices have increased.
17:09 First of all, I don't think that
17:11 the petrol prices have increased.
17:13 Because if the petrol prices had increased,
17:15 then inflation would have come.
17:17 Then Bilawal Bhutto would have
17:19 marched from Karachi to Islamabad.
17:21 If inflation had increased,
17:23 if petrol prices had increased,
17:25 then his other partner,
17:27 Mariam Sardar,
17:29 would have marched from Lahore.
17:31 And his neighbours,
17:33 Maulana Fazlur Rahman,
17:35 would have marched from Peshawar.
17:37 And these people come here and
17:39 are in front of the Prime Minister.
17:41 Who does Maulana come from?
17:43 Wherever he comes from,
17:45 he has a whole Pakistan.
17:47 He comes from that area,
17:49 and he is sitting in front of the Prime Minister's house.
17:51 And just like they sat outside the Supreme Court
17:53 in the police stations,
17:55 they would have sat in front of the
17:57 Prime Minister's house and protested.
17:59 There is no inflation.
18:01 These people are right.
18:03 There is no inflation.
18:05 And as far as I am concerned,
18:07 they say that the government
18:09 was a very bad government before this.
18:11 They did a lot of wrong.
18:13 They touched the GDP for two consecutive years.
18:15 They did a lot of good.
18:17 They did a lot of good
18:19 that in one year,
18:21 they have reduced the GDP
18:23 by 5.7%.
18:25 It was 0.29%
18:27 0.28%
18:29 They say that
18:31 there is no default.
18:33 You have reached 0.28%
18:35 and you say there is no default.
18:37 You are not giving money to anyone
18:39 and you say there is no default.
18:41 Let me tell you one more thing.
18:43 They came here because
18:45 they thought that
18:47 the bad government
18:49 that cannot do anything
18:51 and is financially finished,
18:53 they will make it better.
18:55 If they had made it better,
18:57 they would have taken it to 6-7-8.
18:59 They have made everything upside down.
19:01 And the reason for this is
19:03 that they are just like you said
19:05 and you were right.
19:07 They are just talkers.
19:09 They have always been talkers.
19:11 They were not, are not,
19:13 No, wait a minute.
19:15 I will explain it in another way.
19:17 Number two.
19:19 What is going to happen with them?
19:21 What is going to happen with them
19:23 is that there was a time
19:25 What is going to happen with you?
19:27 Listen, you are playing on the phone.
19:29 No, he is texting them and telling them what is going to happen.
19:31 What is going to happen with them
19:33 is that even if we say
19:35 that we are not the partners of PDM
19:37 they are equally responsible
19:39 if not more.
19:41 And the more the cost,
19:43 the more the litigation.
19:45 And what will happen?
19:47 What will happen is that those people
19:49 who have always
19:51 been in a kind of reconciliation
19:53 by giving them different slogans
19:55 that is what it is.
19:57 There is a poem that
19:59 "O Iqbal, your Shaheen
20:01 has awakened your sleeping nation."
20:03 So that awakened nation
20:05 will not only come out on the day of that vote,
20:07 Sir, that awakened Shaheen
20:09 has been fully arranged to sleep.
20:11 No, no, no, look,
20:13 Shaheen can be kept,
20:15 but he cannot be made to sit.
20:17 But the people cannot be made to sit.
20:19 And one thing,
20:21 the Prime Minister said something
20:23 that today's Prime Minister
20:25 said that if I don't come in six months.
20:27 When we were young,
20:29 I read a novel.
20:31 Doctor, you have gone on a very old topic.
20:33 I have to take a break in the program.
20:35 Wait a minute.
20:37 I have to take a break in the program.
20:39 I have to take a break in the program.
20:41 That novel's name was
20:43 "My name is Mangu."
20:45 Okay, now Mangu has come.
20:47 Before taking a break,
20:49 an official secret act has been amended
20:51 in the National Assembly.
20:53 Intelligence agencies can enter
20:55 any place without a warrant
20:57 and search or use force.
20:59 During the search, the weapons
21:01 obtained, electronic or live weapons
21:03 can be seized.
21:05 The seized material will be
21:07 handed over to the investigation
21:09 officer or the joint investigation team.
21:11 Many such things are included in this.
21:13 After all, this is an official secret act
21:15 that is being imposed.
21:17 Official secret acts are being imposed
21:19 on political activities as well.
21:21 Why? Another extremely popular law
21:23 which was rejected,
21:25 but it seems that it will come again.
21:27 Do you know what you are doing
21:29 and against whom it will be used?
21:31 It was said that if anyone manipulates
21:33 the people's beliefs,
21:35 conspiracy theory,
21:37 which can be decided by anyone,
21:39 anyone can decide what is
21:41 conspiracy theory,
21:43 self-induced narrative,
21:45 that is, you make a narrative,
21:47 which you are making yourself.
21:49 This cannot be. You will all be ruined.
21:51 Why is this legalization happening?
21:53 Mr. Nitin, please come back.
21:55 Welcome back, viewers.
21:57 The legalization that has been done
21:59 or that is being tried,
22:01 let me start with the opposition.
22:03 Let's take a look at the opposition first.
22:05 How do you see this?
22:07 You were in the National Assembly.
22:09 Today, the law of the secret act was passed.
22:11 Before that, the Senate dropped it.
22:13 But it seems that it will not be dropped for a long time.
22:15 What is happening?
22:17 No one knows what is happening.
22:19 Those who have brought the bill
22:21 do not know either.
22:23 And they are also wandering in confusion.
22:25 They did not even trust each other.
22:27 You must have seen
22:29 the opposition of the members
22:31 of various parties.
22:33 They were going to table it in the Senate.
22:35 They were in the Senate,
22:37 but then a lot of things happened.
22:39 They are not understanding.
22:41 They are thinking.
22:43 When a conspiracy is made,
22:45 they are trying to fit their necks
22:47 to see if it is made for them.
22:49 It is something like this.
22:51 What does this have to do with them?
22:53 It is being made for someone else.
22:55 No, for someone else.
22:57 It will not be self-destructed.
22:59 You can read it and see
23:01 what is there and what is not.
23:03 Everything is there.
23:05 Everything happens in it.
23:07 If all the parties are to be seen
23:09 and if this is to be done
23:11 as an excuse for one party,
23:13 then basically everyone will be cut off.
23:15 This is also on the leaders,
23:17 on the sanctions, on the office of merit,
23:19 on the memorandum.
23:21 Then what political parties,
23:23 what propaganda parties,
23:25 what is the use of propaganda?
23:27 This is the work of the prophets.
23:29 This is their practice.
23:31 So cut off the wings.
23:33 We have seen MQM in the past,
23:35 Jamaat-e-Islami,
23:37 we have seen Lihari gang war.
23:39 Do you agree with these legislators?
23:41 As a political worker,
23:43 I disagree with these legislators.
23:45 And the Senate that was talked about,
23:47 which was tabled by the Minister of State
23:49 of the Pakistan People's Party,
23:51 basically this was the bill of the Interior Minister.
23:53 He was not present.
23:55 He did it without him.
23:57 And no political party was brought on board.
23:59 No political party,
24:01 including the Pakistan People's Party,
24:03 they were not on board.
24:05 The Noon League will be on board.
24:07 When this was presented in the Senate,
24:09 the senators of the Noon League also stood up.
24:11 The Pakistan People's Party also said that this was given.
24:13 So no party knew what this law was?
24:15 It came from the Interior Minister,
24:17 no one knew.
24:19 Sherry Rahman Sahiba defended this yesterday.
24:21 I don't think he defended this.
24:23 I will tell you.
24:25 If he defended it,
24:27 then it was wrong.
24:29 He said, be brave.
24:31 Be brave for this bill.
24:33 Yes, be brave.
24:35 If this has happened in a hurry,
24:37 then there is no ambiguity.
24:39 Chairman, you should point out
24:41 that the Senate can still bring
24:43 amendments after the National Assembly.
24:45 Our people are not going to
24:47 be able to bring amendments
24:49 after the National Assembly.
24:51 Our things will not end.
24:53 They will go to the National Assembly
24:55 for consideration and all that.
24:57 So please be brave.
24:59 We are all with each other.
25:01 No one likes the legislation of Ujjwala.
25:03 We don't want to be in your way.
25:05 If you want to improve,
25:07 please cooperate with us.
25:09 Be brave.
25:11 Let him go to the National Assembly.
25:13 He will come back.
25:15 He will get amendments.
25:17 He has made it deferred.
25:19 He has not done it.
25:21 He has said that he will go to the National Assembly
25:23 and come back.
25:25 Let him go.
25:27 No, no.
25:29 I asked him categorically.
25:31 I will tell you who opposed it.
25:33 Your program will be delayed.
25:35 You are saying that it will be used against us.
25:37 It is a wrong bill.
25:39 What did you see in their discussions?
25:41 I asked them categorically.
25:43 I asked Salim Mandi.
25:45 I spoke to Shahid Ahmad.
25:47 The Pakistani party
25:49 did not support it at all.
25:51 Not a single person.
25:53 You introduced the bill.
25:55 I told you about Shari Rahman.
25:57 The Minister of State introduced the bill.
25:59 It was supposed to be tabled.
26:01 It was supposed to be in the committee.
26:03 We did not let it go to the committee.
26:05 We said that such a thing should not happen.
26:07 But Shari Rahman could have opposed it.
26:09 It is a wrong law.
26:11 He should send it back to the committee.
26:13 He should do something else.
26:15 He should be brave.
26:17 He should change it.
26:19 He should come back from the National Assembly.
26:21 I will tell you.
26:23 When the joint session took place,
26:25 you remember,
26:27 according to the election act,
26:29 the Minister of Law
26:31 introduced the bill.
26:33 Raza Rabbani
26:35 gave a sign.
26:37 Ali Zafar
26:39 gave a sign.
26:41 Kamran Murtaza
26:43 and Taj Sahib
26:45 gave a sign.
26:47 Article 231 and 2A
26:49 were not a part of the bill
26:51 when it was discussed
26:53 in the committee.
26:55 It was
26:57 wolfishly
26:59 discussed.
27:01 You are talking a lot.
27:03 But you are saying that
27:05 no one knows what is happening.
27:07 Things are put in it.
27:09 This bill was
27:11 stopped for a day.
27:13 It was put in the next day.
27:15 They said that they will
27:17 discuss it again.
27:19 They were dropped.
27:21 The ones who were not in the list were dropped.
27:23 Doctor, tell me something.
27:25 What can be done
27:27 to get someone in jail?
27:29 What can be done?
27:31 Let me tell you.
27:33 They say that with great powers comes great responsibilities.
27:35 They say that in another country.
27:37 I am saying that
27:39 when you get
27:41 a great power,
27:43 you have a great responsibility.
27:45 They say that with great powers comes more powers.
27:47 And absolute power
27:49 can corrupt you.
27:51 We do not do that.
27:53 Look,
27:55 as a democrat,
27:57 as it has been said,
27:59 as a democratic person,
28:01 as a worker
28:03 of politics,
28:05 we have to
28:07 sit and see
28:09 how many people
28:11 who believed in democracy
28:13 are not agreed.
28:15 They are saying that we do not agree.
28:17 Listen,
28:19 all the bills that have come,
28:21 I know,
28:23 I have said it.
28:25 Earlier, your government was making it.
28:27 Now, you are making it.
28:29 All the bills that came,
28:31 they were not for anyone.
28:33 They were for elections.
28:35 They were for the electoral voting system.
28:37 They were for the overseas Pakistanis.
28:39 Yesterday, the Prime Minister said that
28:41 this is a very good law.
28:43 PTI made it.
28:45 They are lying.
28:47 Let me tell you one more thing.
28:49 I will tell you one simple thing.
28:51 When I was reading this bill,
28:53 I was introduced to it.
28:55 I was reading it and I felt that
28:57 this is against PTI.
28:59 And I said it.
29:01 And then the media came and said
29:03 that this is for them.
29:05 Either you will stay or we will stay.
29:07 And they have said it.
29:09 And now unfortunately,
29:11 we are doing all those bills
29:13 that are actually strengthening
29:15 who?
29:17 It is strengthening non-political forces.
29:19 We want this.
29:21 Look, we keep fighting our battles.
29:23 But in those battles,
29:25 we are not cutting our hands.
29:27 We are not cutting our hands.
29:29 We are not cutting our legs.
29:31 We are not closing our eyes.
29:33 We are closing our noses, mouths, everything.
29:35 I agree with him 100%.
29:37 But the problem is that when we are in government,
29:39 we are different.
29:41 You are right.
29:43 Let me complete.
29:45 Now there are two together.
29:47 No, no, I am with you.
29:49 There are two together.
29:51 You are with us.
29:53 I say that when we are in government,
29:55 we do not realize these things.
29:57 Now these things are happening.
29:59 Tomorrow, the parliament will be implemented.
30:01 You will call us. You have passed.
30:03 I will hear what you are doing.
30:05 What is being said.
30:07 It is true. We should realize this.
30:09 When we are in government,
30:11 we say that we do not want to go to the opposition.
30:13 We want to stay in government.
30:15 This is wrong. We should see this.
30:17 They talked about 230.
30:19 This bill, whatever bill it is,
30:21 you have to sit on it with all the political forces.
30:23 It is not that they made it.
30:25 They did not swear,
30:27 did not do anything wrong.
30:29 I say that when we are in government,
30:31 when we pass such a bill,
30:33 tomorrow the opposition will implement it on us,
30:35 then we scream that why did this happen to us?
30:37 You always stay in government
30:39 and not in the opposition.
30:41 You also talked about the new bill,
30:43 the new amendment.
30:45 These things happen.
30:47 Then we scream that why did this happen?
30:49 We are ourselves.
30:51 And we have to suffer.
30:53 We have to suffer.
30:55 I will finish Mr. Nayan.
30:57 He said no, I cannot be caught in this.
30:59 And Mr. Nayan is the same in 1963.
31:01 Now, obviously,
31:03 a system of caretaker is going to come.
31:05 If anyone wants to say anything,
31:07 our democracy is cutting its hands.
31:09 The Election Commission has written a letter.
31:11 After that,
31:13 it is very difficult for a political person to come
31:15 as a caretaker.
31:17 Now, add all of them.
31:19 They have to be finished.
31:21 All these laws are being made against them.
31:23 There will be a non-political person.
31:25 An economist will come.
31:27 And I saw that even Mardham Shumari
31:29 has got an extension.
31:31 The media people are also very much in.
31:33 I heard that all of them are out.
31:35 The CM of Punjab is not sitting.
31:37 No, the media people are not clean.
31:39 Media means media.
31:41 Okay.
31:43 So, now you feel that the caretaker
31:45 is coming for a long time.
31:47 I have been saying from the beginning that he is coming.
31:49 How long do you think the relationship is?
31:51 I think it is a long relationship.
31:53 Now, you see Mohsin Beg's interview.
31:55 He keeps on posting pictures of him
31:57 with different people on social media.
31:59 And he keeps on smiling.
32:01 What was the name?
32:03 Javed Chaudhary.
32:05 This picture is very problematic.
32:07 We have only one.
32:09 After that, he said that it will be more.
32:11 And then he also said about Mardham Shumari
32:13 that how will the new voters
32:15 get 3.5 crore without induction.
32:17 And it will be more.
32:19 I have been saying this for the last four months.
32:21 But we are going through a lot of
32:23 delicate situations.
32:25 So, anything can happen.
32:27 I have seen the election.
32:29 Yesterday, Asim Tariq said that
32:31 the CM just gave an interview.
32:33 He said that according to the new Mardham Shumari,
32:35 elections will be held.
32:37 So, it has been 5-6 months.
32:39 I am the CM.
32:41 He has given the power to the election commission.
32:43 He is a biased kind of bureaucrat.
32:45 He will decide about this country.
32:47 He was present at the elections.
32:49 He is not your president.
32:51 He is a politician.
32:53 You should have let him work.
32:55 You should have removed him from the election commission.
32:57 He called me on Sunday and presented the bill.
32:59 He made the bill.
33:01 I will read a line of the bill.
33:03 I will believe it.
33:05 He made the bill.
33:07 On Sunday, we also came from Karachi
33:09 for the extension.
33:11 It was a holiday.
33:13 Why do you all come to such meetings?
33:15 I have guests in my house.
33:17 I don't want to run away from them.
33:19 The guests must have heard it.
33:21 They must know who the guests are.
33:23 Was he a government official or a politician?
33:25 He was my in-law.
33:27 I am joking.
33:29 Chairman Senate said that...
33:31 I am trying to save your marriage.
33:33 Look at the situation.
33:35 I am not tabling this bill.
33:37 He is not tabling it.
33:39 This is what I am thinking.
33:41 I am not tabling this bill.
33:43 He is not tabling it.
33:45 This is what I am thinking.
33:47 I am not getting anything.
33:49 He is saying that he is not tabling it.
33:51 He is refusing it.
33:53 Why did you open the assembly on a holiday?
33:55 Why did you open the assembly on a holiday?
33:57 Quick response.
33:59 As a government, not just government,
34:01 but as a party, which is now on the right side.
34:03 It doesn't take long to come to the left side.
34:05 It doesn't take long to come to the left side.
34:07 What are you doing?
34:09 You are giving all the power to the election commission.
34:11 You are giving all the power to the election commission.
34:13 You are giving all the power to the election commission.
34:15 You are giving all the power to the election commission.
34:17 You are giving all the power to the election commission.
34:19 You are giving all the power to the election commission.
34:21 You are giving all the power to the election commission.
34:23 You are giving all the power to the election commission.
34:25 You are giving all the power to the election commission.
34:27 You are giving all the power to the election commission.
34:29 You are giving all the power to the election commission.
34:31 You are giving all the power to the election commission.
34:33 You are giving all the power to the election commission.
34:35 You are giving all the power to the election commission.
34:37 You are giving all the power to the election commission.
34:39 You are giving all the power to the election commission.
34:41 You are giving all the power to the election commission.
34:43 You are giving all the power to the election commission.
34:45 You are giving all the power to the election commission.