00:00 Sir, when do you think the next assembly will be held?
00:04 Do you also think that the elections will not be held till February 2023?
00:08 But it will not go far ahead.
00:11 March is Ramadan.
00:13 10th March is the first day of Ramadan.
00:14 Do you also think that the elections will be held by February?
00:17 Or do you think it is difficult?
00:18 Do you think there is a chance to go further than this?
00:19 Mr. Kazmi.
00:20 Look, Mr. Badami, if it goes beyond the 9th day,
00:26 then there is no limit to whether it will go to February or March.
00:30 Because you have crossed the 9-day limit.
00:34 Now, as far as this assembly is concerned,
00:37 the main thing is that the next assembly will be held.
00:39 Will it be like this?
00:41 Will the head of that assembly be there at the end of that assembly?
00:45 That is, the Prime Minister, who was the head of the majority there,
00:48 maybe it was Mr. Khan Abbasi,
00:49 will have such a personality and say that this was the worst assembly of history.
00:54 We are hoping that whether it comes after four months or two months,
00:57 such an assembly should come,
00:59 in which the Prime Minister stands and does not say later that we are sorry.
01:03 And the assembly that is going on today,
01:05 it is good that it is going on because it was the worst assembly.
01:08 Yes, it is right.
01:09 You are absolutely right.
01:10 In fact, if you can show it, show it.
01:11 Maybe Mr. Khan Abbasi said something.
01:13 Show it.
01:15 It has been five years since the assembly took place.
01:17 It is a shame for everyone.
01:18 What is the misbehavior that did not happen here?
01:20 We did it too.
01:21 What is the abuse that was not given here?
01:23 There is no opposition.
01:24 Without opposition, the assembly is incomplete.
01:26 This assembly has been a source of great embarrassment for me.
01:29 Ethical values, democratic values are in decline.
01:32 In the last week of this assembly,
01:34 40 university bills, some say 53, some say 40,
01:38 bills were passed here.
01:39 This is a source of embarrassment.
01:40 Mr. Speaker, you should have stopped these things.
01:42 The impression is that all the assembly members are corrupt.
01:45 People do not see us with a good eye.
01:47 And we prove with our actions that what they say is right.
01:49 The legislation that has been passed in the past five years,
01:52 not a single law is for the convenience of the people.
01:55 All are for the convenience of the government.
01:56 Do we care about these matters?
01:58 Complaints from this government, this government have been.
02:00 I do not see any worry.
02:02 I do not see any pain.
02:04 So, this is what Mr. Khan Abbasi said,
02:06 who is the head of this government himself.
02:08 Mr. Rauhul Kalastra has also joined us.
02:09 Mr. Kalastra, one thing Mr. Kazmi says,
02:12 you tell me, what is your opinion?
02:13 When it has gone beyond 90 days,
02:15 then how many days can it go beyond?
02:17 Or do you think that it will go beyond 90 days
02:20 because of the census?
02:22 But the Supreme Court will ban it,
02:26 as it was before.
02:28 If you say that the Supreme Court has already banned it,
02:30 then how much action has been taken against it in Punjab?
02:31 Absolutely right.
02:32 But do you think that the Supreme Court will ban it this time,
02:35 then it will have to be acted upon?
02:36 Punjab had a different matter.
02:37 You can go up for so many days or some time
02:40 due to the compulsion of the census.
02:42 But it will not happen that you will go on pulling for 6-8-10 months
02:44 and the court will not be able to do anything.
02:46 What is your opinion among these two?
02:48 This is a very important question,
02:50 and Mr. Kazmi has said something very important.
02:52 I think the biggest test of this question
02:56 will not be the Parliament,
02:58 nor will it be your supervision on the government test,
03:00 nor will it be the test of your other institutions.
03:03 The biggest test will be the new Chief Justice,
03:06 Qazi Faiz Isa Sahib.
03:07 This case will go before him.
03:09 And when this period of 3 months is over,
03:12 I think it will end in October or November,
03:14 when the elections will be held.
03:16 At that time, the current Chief Justice will not be there,
03:18 nor will Banjal Sahib.
03:19 So I think a person who will be on the trail,
03:22 or who will be the first to make a big decision,
03:26 who will be on the bench,
03:27 will be Qazi Faiz Isa Sahib,
03:29 who will be our honourable Chief Justice.
03:31 So looking at his mindset,
03:33 what he does,
03:34 what the opponents say about him,
03:36 that Qazi Sahib has his own style,
03:38 whatever it is,
03:40 so I think for him,
03:42 a big problem is going to come in the Supreme Court,
03:45 how they will look at this case.
03:47 In front of them is Banjal Sahib's case,
03:49 that Banjal Sahib could not implement his decisions.
03:51 He was exercising more power,
03:53 or what should have been,
03:55 an exercise of power,
03:57 a granger, a fear,
03:59 a terror of the court,
04:01 of the Chief Justice,
04:03 to implement his decisions.
04:05 In the past, we have seen Iftikhar Chaudhary Sahib,
04:07 he came and used a stick to run his Supreme Court,
04:09 to implement his decisions,
04:11 he disqualified the Prime Minister,
04:13 and he sent many people to jail.
04:15 So in comparison to him,
04:17 Banjal Sahib,
04:19 like you said about Punjab,
04:21 Banjal Sahib,
04:23 I have a lot of respect for him,
04:25 but he could not implement his decisions.
04:27 So you can give your opinion,
04:29 of course it is anybody's guess,
04:31 but what is your opinion,
04:33 that Faiz Isa Sahib will not be able to go beyond a limit,
04:35 in implementing his decisions,
04:37 or will he make sure,
04:39 or will he take action against the relevant person.
04:41 What is your opinion?
04:43 It is difficult to give an opinion,
04:45 about a person,
04:47 about his mindset,
04:49 or his approach,
04:51 people change with time,
04:53 moods change,
04:55 when you get a position,
04:57 you also change.
04:59 So we will have to see,
05:01 that in a new position,
05:03 he is becoming the most powerful,
05:05 and very crucial time,
05:07 so how will he see himself in history.
05:09 It seems that he is an idealist,
05:11 but from his attitude,
05:13 his conduct,
05:15 his decisions,
05:17 his opinion,
05:19 it seems that he will take an idealism,
05:21 and he will not be able to write himself as a Chief Justice,
05:23 which will be considered,
05:25 as a compromise,
05:27 or he was supposed to get elected in 3 months,
05:29 and he was brought a case,
05:31 and despite that,
05:33 he could not make that decision.
05:35 But I think,
05:37 what I think,
05:39 he will do one thing,
05:41 he will make a full bench,
05:43 which he should make,
05:45 he will say that he is not alone,
05:47 and he will vote for himself,
05:49 and he will get elected in 3 months,
05:51 and if he does not,
05:53 he will be punished.
05:55 If majority of judges say,
05:57 that no,
05:59 you cannot do it,
06:01 you have to be a man of the house,
06:03 you have many other excuses,
06:05 so I think,
06:07 it will be my responsibility.
06:09 But before I go to Naeem,
06:11 tell me,
06:13 Mr. Kazmi,
06:15 do you think,
06:17 that after September,
06:19 Nawaz Sharif will be back,
06:21 and he will try his best,
06:23 so that if he feels,
06:25 that the situation is favourable,
06:27 he will get elected in February,
06:29 do you think it is possible?
06:31 Mr. Kazmi.
06:33 I have seen a video of Mr. Nawaz,
06:35 on PMLN's social media,
06:37 where he is saying,
06:39 that he is back,
06:41 and he is saying,
06:43 that the lion is coming,
06:45 and the lion is back,
06:47 and he said that this is also right,
06:49 because the next government is also coming,
06:51 so based on the Noon League,
06:53 and the claims,
06:55 it seems that he will come,
06:57 but in September,
06:59 the coming Chief Justice,
07:01 the Noon League and the present government,
07:03 have started talking about this,
07:05 and have created a controversy,
07:07 that they will come,
07:09 and God forbid,
07:11 someone out of the way,
07:13 will go and give relief to Nawaz Sharif,
07:15 and they will also decide according to the law,
07:17 which the present government has to do,
07:19 so by giving such an impression,
07:21 the coming Chief Justice,
07:23 I think,
07:25 they have created problems,
07:27 how will it be possible,
07:29 that they will come and give relief,
07:31 and if in the time of his brother,
07:33 who was in power,
07:35 and he was all in all,
07:37 and the government is such,
07:39 that they have completely agreed with him,
07:41 and if in spite of that,
07:43 if the Chief Justice does not come,
07:45 then if he comes in September,
07:47 then you can guess,
07:49 that the Chief Justice,
07:51 has more trust on someone other than his brother,
07:53 or on someone else,
07:55 they say that the demands of justice are not being fulfilled,
07:57 the next government is neutral,
07:59 and when the demands of justice are fulfilled,
08:01 then the punishment is so wrong,
08:03 that it has to be reversed,
08:05 and there is no other way,
08:07 and there is no solution to the punishment,
08:09 this is their interpretation.
08:11 Yes, this can be their interpretation,
08:13 but the interpretation of the law and the constitution,
08:15 the court has to do it according to the law and the constitution,
08:17 now God forbid,
08:19 it is not possible that after three months,
08:21 the law will change,
08:23 and the total point of view of the court will change,
08:25 so this is the purpose of my saying,
08:27 that on May 24,
08:29 Ishaq Dar Sahib got relief from these courts,
08:31 Shahbaz Sharif's sons got relief,
08:33 Maryam Nawaz Sahiba got relief,
08:35 so what is the reason that a husband,
08:37 in a special case, could not get relief?
08:39 Noted, absolutely right.
