00:00 The NFC awards have always been a big issue for us. We have talked about this since your government.
00:07 Many people believe that the burden of loans has increased since the NFC awards came.
00:13 Because the government has already divided the money. The provinces are not ready, the provinces don't pay taxes, the provinces don't fulfil their responsibilities.
00:21 Now the burden of loans has increased and we have taken loans from 4,000 to 1,000 billion rupees.
00:30 Will this work? Because the political parties should also make difficult decisions in the reforms.
00:36 That we are getting so much money from the provinces but the country cannot work like this.
00:41 Kashmir, if you allow me, we were talking about the failed state.
00:47 So I will say that the state has not failed but the governance has completely failed.
00:52 In the last 20 years, no government, any government, which has a government of every party, has solved a single serious issue of Pakistan.
01:01 If you see that in the last 20-25 years, any problem has been solved, then tell me.
01:07 Our governance has failed. So what Shahid bhai is saying is that we should take all the stakeholders,
01:14 the government, the politicians, the business, the scholars, everyone should sit and say how to move this country forward.
01:19 Now you are talking about the NRC, so this is the reality that since 2010, since the NRC has come, the deficits of loyalty are increasing.
01:28 You have given so much money to the provinces that the provinces do not need to increase the tax.
01:32 Therefore, they do not impose taxes on property, nor on agricultural income.
01:36 And they do not collect their tax. As much as the tax is collected in Pune, India, no province can collect it here.
01:43 So if we do not collect tax from the rich people, if the provinces do not collect tax,
01:48 if they are getting a surplus of their expenses, then loyalty is almost bankrupt at this time.
01:54 How can this country run in which the national government, loyalty, is bankrupt, then how can the provinces move forward?
02:01 If Pakistan is not there, then what will be left of Sindh or Punjab?
02:05 So we have to sit with all these things.
02:09 Because in this province, I have a right, or in that province you have a right, so you set your money.
02:14 That we keep the governments of our provinces, then let's see what happens to loyalty.
02:18 We cannot think like this, we will have to move ahead of it.
02:21 We will have to make the local government effective.
02:24 When we cannot educate children, then it will be necessary to do that.
02:27 We will have to do this work. Now the time has come that the world is tired of us.
02:31 Neither does it want to give us loans, nor does it want to give aid.
02:36 The countries that were equal to us, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, India, have gone far ahead of us.
02:40 So this Pakistani is not a minority, it is just our governance failure.
02:44 And no political party understands this.
02:47 And I am telling you honestly that there is no competence in any political party.
02:50 People do not understand this, I am saying this with apologies, what are the problems?
02:54 Saying that these prices should not be increased, the prices have not increased, I also understand that.
03:00 But if the prices are not increasing, then reduce the expenses.
03:04 Now if the interest rate increases, then the government should do something.
03:06 Sir, the Prime Minister Shabaz Sharif has kept 85 people on jobs, how can he give more jobs?
03:11 The ministries have to reduce expenses, cut them.
03:14 Most of them were not ministries.
03:16 You have made him a minister to accommodate, he has to make him a minister, he has to make him a minister, he has to make him a minister,
03:22 then there will be ministries.
03:24 You have made a ministry for the post office.
03:26 The problem is solved, the ministries are on the ground.
03:29 The problems will not be solved.
03:32 Sir, I am not saying that you should not do this, but you should understand what the matter is.
03:35 Till we do not correct these matters, we will not reform, your country will not move forward.
03:41 We will definitely keep on scoring points, you have kept 85 people, I have kept 65, you have kept 85, next 100 will keep.
03:51 Will the problem be solved with that?
03:53 Let's get out of these things and see what the problems are and why they have not been solved.
04:00 Because, what he has said is that there is no capability.
04:03 There is no capability in the new political system, nor is there capability in bureaucracy.
04:08 If there was intention, then capability would have come.
04:10 Exactly, if there is no intention, then where will the capability come from?
04:13 I am not saying that there was no thought, I will not say that there was no intention, there was no thought that we have to solve the problems.
04:19 This was the misfortune of this country, we could not do it.
04:22 We should all be satisfied today and we are not.
04:29 Even today, the same old formula, see what is happening in politics.
04:33 Our politics is not that Mr. Miftah has to solve the problems, our politics is that who we have to get out of politics,
04:39 which cases we have to put on him, how to keep him in jail, he has made the box wrong, it should have been in box A,
04:44 he put the thing in box B, no, it is a very gross violation, you have done it, go to jail for 3 years,
04:51 because you have to get him out of politics, this is the focus.
04:54 This is not the focus that we have to solve the problems.
04:57 Sir, I am telling you that people do not have a thought, they do not know what to do after coming to power.
05:06 These small reliefs that are given to the public, it costs a lot.
05:11 I am telling you the truth that until we think about it, some people think that close the other person,
05:18 this is not politics, this does not solve the problem of the public, you see that so much inflation is increasing at the moment,
05:25 you should really do something to reduce inflation, but our fights are something else,
05:29 if you read in the newspaper, then on the first page there is no mention of inflation,
05:33 on the first page it is mentioned that which ATC is going, which military court is going,
05:37 what will be the result of the cipher case, what will be the result of the Adposh Aghana case,
05:41 and this is not today's thing, when Shahid Abbasi and I were in jail, then LNG was discussed daily,
05:48 that is another thing that we brought the cheapest LNG Shahid Bhai and put the world's cheapest internet,
05:54 but at that time this was discussed, what will happen, what will happen.
05:57 Sir, you have brought that, today your Prime Minister says that he has put power plants on all imported fuel,
06:02 not to mention one primary, understand, that the thought is that you have put everything on imported,
06:08 today you say that who put it on imported, that is, we did not even think that how will we tolerate this money,
06:15 see I am telling you, the problem is this, but tell the truth,
06:20 this is also a matter of understanding, if today LNG was not there,
06:24 no, no, no, sir let me answer, sir let me tell, if today LNG was not there,
06:31 then the entire country's economy would have been settled, there are no two opinions in this,
06:35 if LNG was not there, then the country's economy would have been settled,
06:38 see the problem is that when the Muslim League doubled the production of electricity from 12,000 to 25,000 MW,
06:45 so did we double industrial production at that time, did we increase exports from there, we did not increase that,
06:51 so when you did not increase exports, you did not increase industrial production,
06:54 so you did not have the money with which you could buy electricity,
06:57 or could pay the circular debt of electricity to your capacity payments,
07:01 so we should think this holistically, secondly, if your money is not spent,
07:05 you just have to do policy, cut fees, then you do not think those things,
07:10 if you had put this private sector on a multi-buyer model, then people would have thought about which fuel to buy,
07:16 now you will buy any fuel, but I am still telling you that if anyone says that LNG is wrong,
07:21 then without LNG, Pakistan's economy will be settled.
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