00:00 Sir, was Mian's wife a politician?
00:02 Was she a politician?
00:04 She was a politician.
00:06 There is no room for her in the constitution or the law.
00:08 Is her wife a politician?
00:10 Her wife is always a politician.
00:13 Will history decide why and how the next government of the Muslim League is going to be formed?
00:20 If it is wrong, then it will be.
00:22 You didn't fight for the election, right?
00:24 I have seen the history, the current situation.
00:28 Why are you not waiting for the time to come?
00:30 Why are you sitting outside the elections?
00:31 You write, fight for the elections.
00:33 I am waiting for the time to come.
00:34 You are saying that you are not ready to contest in this environment.
00:37 I am talking about the national politics.
00:39 The communities that are in power today, if they do not take the next decision,
00:44 this election will be pointless.
00:46 Which you can see happening right now.
00:48 I can see it.
00:51 Who has the ability to run the country today?
00:54 No one has the ability.
00:56 Everyone has ruled.
00:58 So today, first decide what we are going to do next.
01:02 If you don't know what I am going to do,
01:05 if everyone just wants a seat, then the country will not work.
01:08 This is my thought.
01:09 Maybe this thought is wrong, but this is my thought.
01:11 And your community also just wants this government.
01:13 They don't know what is planned next.
01:15 Every community wants a government, but today there is no room for power.
01:19 Today there is no room for a seat.
01:21 Today we are all political.
01:23 If you have understood this, then why doesn't Mr. Mian understand this?
01:26 No one has understood this.
01:28 Do you see any sense of urgency in the country?
01:32 That the situation is bad.
01:34 Do you see any problem?
01:36 You are very worried.
01:37 I am worried.
01:38 Why is Mr. Mian not worried?
01:40 He has his own thoughts.
01:41 What can I say?
01:42 What is his thought?
01:43 Everyone has their own thoughts.
01:44 I have expressed my thoughts.
01:46 Now the manifesto is coming, I will express my thoughts.
01:49 There is a lot of difference between the current Muslim League Noon of 2022 and 2024.
01:53 Sardar Mehtab Abbasi has also become different.
01:56 He says that this is not a community.
01:58 I have no personal complaint.
02:00 I have told you very clearly.
02:02 I have only one reservation.
02:04 The politics that my community is doing today, I do not agree with it.
02:09 What is that politics?
02:10 This is the politics that we are doing today.
02:13 And everyone is doing it.
02:14 It is not that the Muslim League Noon is doing it.
02:16 The Peace Party is also doing it.
02:18 All the communities are doing it.
02:20 I just say that today the chair will not give you anything.
02:24 This is a very heavy chair.
02:26 There are a lot of difficulties in the country.
02:28 No one has the ability to solve these problems.
02:31 Today, sit together.
02:32 Today, this country needs unity.
02:34 Pre-election, sit together.
02:35 Yes, pre-election, sit together.
02:37 You will not be able to sit later.
02:38 And if the election is disputed, then you will face more problems.
02:42 Which are going to happen, you think.
02:44 Anyway, time will tell.
02:46 I can't say that it will not happen.
02:48 Sir, the retrospective mistakes that are being corrected today,
02:52 the mistakes that are happening on the ground,
02:54 is the superior judiciary showing the ability to determine and assess them?
02:59 Yes, I want to do it.
03:00 Sir, even in the case of the level playing field, the court is saying that...
03:03 I am saying that, do it.
03:04 If you do not do it today, then you will have to correct it tomorrow.
03:08 We have not learned the lesson from the past.
03:11 The supreme authorities are with our judiciary.
03:15 They have also exercised.
03:17 But I think that where the country's affairs were,
03:21 maybe they have failed in it.
03:23 Like this case of Mian Nawaziri,
03:26 he should have taken a motto.
03:28 It was wrong.
03:29 Our brothers at that time,
03:32 the brothers who were judges, they made the wrong decision.
03:34 They should have said this.
03:36 They should have corrected it themselves.
03:37 Instead of saying that it has been corrected after 6 years.
03:41 When you decided not to fight the election,
03:44 you took the separation,
03:45 did anyone contact you about the politics of today's Muslim League?
03:49 No, I do not need any contact.
03:51 I had already said this.
03:53 No need for contact.
03:55 Did anyone try to convince you?
03:57 No, no one tried to convince me.
03:59 I have a difference of opinion.
04:02 To convince.
04:03 No, there is no room to convince.
04:06 I am sorry.
04:07 Your last meeting was in London with Mr. Mian.
04:09 What was the date of the meeting?
04:11 It was September.
04:13 Did you tell him this?
04:15 Yes, I told him before that I will not fight the election.
04:19 What did he say?
04:21 We had a conversation.
04:23 It is a very old relationship.
04:26 I have no personal issue here.
04:28 I am not saying that you have a personal issue.
04:30 I do not want to get a seat from the Jamaat,
04:32 or a ticket or a job.
04:34 It is not like that.
04:36 It is politics.
04:37 It is Mr. Mian's own opinion.
04:39 My opinion.
04:41 You can think it is wrong.
04:43 I am on it.
04:45 What was the opinion of Nawaz Sharif,
04:47 who made you the Prime Minister?
04:49 What is the opinion of Nawaz Sharif today?
04:51 I cannot judge anyone.
04:53 Only history can judge.
04:55 My opinion is wrong.
04:57 I am just expressing my opinion.
05:01 You are not even forming your own political party.
05:03 We will see.
05:05 There is a need for a political party in the country.
05:07 There is a need.
05:09 But you do not want to raise this issue.
05:11 We will see.
05:13 I do not make a person.
05:15 If there is support, if there is a friend,
05:17 if there is a thought.
05:19 People are worried.
05:21 Are you seeing a national government being formed?
05:23 Like PDM 2?
05:25 Not a national government.
05:27 It will be a coalition government.
05:29 I do not think any party can take the majority.
05:31 You are in this position.
05:33 If you get a chance,
05:35 you know the capacity, capability,
05:37 and ability of the leadership.
05:39 Is the person suitable to run such a coalition government?
05:41 Is it Mr. Mian or Mr. Shabashiri?
05:43 No, only Mr. Mian.
05:45 If this government can run like this,
05:47 he is the only person.
05:49 Anyway, it will be very difficult.
05:51 Very difficult.
05:53 Completing the term.
05:55 Completing the term
05:57 will not solve anything.
05:59 There is no scope for work.
06:01 Delivering.
06:03 Are you seeing the term being completed?
06:05 If the term starts, it will be completed.
06:07 I do not think completing the term is an achievement.
06:09 I think a government of one year
06:11 should work.
06:13 A government of five years is a failure.
06:15 And with regard to the term starting,
06:17 are you completely sure
06:19 that the elections are going to be held on 8th February?
06:21 Or are there still doubts?
06:23 My job is to believe.
06:25 But people are not believing.
06:27 Sir, if you were so wise,
06:29 you would have believed in the words of your community.
06:31 You do not believe easily.
06:33 What you are hearing now,
06:35 do you see the elections being held?
06:37 I thought it would be held.
06:39 Everyone is asking questions.
06:41 Today is one month, everyone is asking questions.
06:43 But since the Senate resolution has been passed,
06:45 and today it has not been corrected,
06:47 I have some doubts.
06:49 I have some doubts.
06:51 That there is something wrong with the Dal.
06:53 Yes, if it had been corrected today,
06:55 if 15 people had been unjustified that day,
06:57 and they have done such a big injustice,
06:59 that one part of the parliament
07:01 wants to stop the other part of the parliament
07:03 from being formed.
07:05 They say, "We are not doing the elections."
07:07 "It should not be done."
07:09 Who has given you permission?
07:11 What did the Supreme Court say today?
07:13 Reading into the Constitution.
07:15 They want to negate the Constitution.
07:17 So today,
07:19 it was the job of the political parties
07:21 to call a meeting today,
07:23 and have their membership there,
07:25 and express this,
07:27 by passing a resolution,
07:29 that we are against this thought,
07:31 that elections should be held in the country.
07:33 I am surprised that all the political parties
07:35 are sitting and no one has complained.
07:37 In fact, the JUFA and IPP
07:39 have done a good job.
07:41 They have owned the thought that this is right.
07:43 The thought that is coming in this resolution.
07:45 People's Party and Noon League are also silent.
07:47 Ownership is also coming from there.
07:49 Silence is a half-officiality.
07:51 We need to correct this mistake.
07:53 The tradition should have been correct.
07:55 May Allah correct it after this.
07:57 Thank you very much.
07:59 Thank you very much.
08:01 We have with us the former Prime Minister Shahid Qanibazi.
08:03 We have heard your conversation.
