00:00Are the Browns being told to not say anything about Baker and I'm like I don't I just don't
00:04think that one is there anybody on this team other than no Denzel Ward's on this team and
00:09that's it is there anybody other than Denzel Ward Grant Delpit well yeah and then the long snapper
00:20no Sunihara wasn't oh my god that's right yeah duh been here like two years no yeah Rex is
00:26well Rex has been here his whole life but yeah yeah yeah he's only been on the bronze for a
00:33few
00:33years that's correct um okay so there's been very few that are actually like teammates with him
00:39except for Grant Delpit and I didn't even think about Grant wonderful player and I and then there's
00:44obviously uh Denzel I just think wonderful player really wonderful player like Mike Rutenberg sung
00:50his praises yesterday and you know he's a great player and you gotta take him seriously and he's
00:56a gamer and Denzel called him a friend and said yeah you're trying to pick off everybody but you
01:02know he considers him a dear friend to this day here's Mike Rutenberg on uh Baker Mayfield
01:05what do you think of uh Baker and then the fact that he's coming off of a three fumble game
01:10uh what you know what does that mean for you guys great amount of respect for Baker Mayfield he's one
01:15of those guys in the league that as you watch as a fan and a coach his competitive spirit the
01:20way he
01:20plays the game and then obviously I got to see that firsthand how great of a player he is just
01:24going
01:24against him last year in Atlanta man he's such a competitor great quarterback and you hear people
01:29all the time just talk about his competitive spirit what about the fact that he's coming off
01:33of a three fumble Mary Kay it's always about focusing on the next game and not what happened
01:37with anybody it's just us focusing on doing our job more than anything there Mike Rutenberg wasn't
01:42here what I mean what what's the point of that like you've inherited this but yeah but that's not
01:45what he was asked he was asked about the three fumbles and all he wants to do is talk about
01:49how great
01:49a player he is yeah I but you're I mean I'm proud of Mary Kay for doubling down on that
01:55I that's fine
01:56but I also I'm not I have no problem with Mike Rutenberg just saying like hey we're focused on
02:00the future here like I'm sure they're going hey you can get to the football you can get that ball
02:03out
02:03let's get that ball out let's create some turnovers get ourselves some short fields like that's obviously
02:07being said but the public message is different and the public message was different this week from
02:11Baker he was very quiet very reserved this week the loudest thing he did was he had to wear a
02:17Michigan jersey because they beat uh they beat Oklahoma and he made a bet with uh Todd Bowles
02:21about it which boy tells you about he is their franchise quarterback now because you ain't doing
02:24that with a head coach if you ain't so why do I bring this up he's been so quiet yesterday
02:29I said
02:30right at the end of the show maybe the best revenge for Baker Mayfield is living well
02:36because I I expect the bucks to win Vegas expects the bucks to win 99% of listeners are taking
02:42the bucks
02:44if he goes out there and puts it on the Browns and just goes into the postgame press conference and
02:49says we did a great job today Chris was great uh the offensive line did a great job got this
02:55win
02:56back back to 500 back to the back to zero now we got to get forward we got to we
03:01got to go 1-0 next
03:02week that's the way it is like if he just doesn't even recognize the past instead of like he made
03:08up
03:08something in his head about Steve Wilkes that wasn't even true because he's a nut job he kept
03:13he kept scoring everything when he was in Cleveland he could still keep score but if he goes out there
03:18publicly and just says nothing about the Cleveland Browns would that be a bigger knock towards the
03:25Browns than him doing what we all a lot of us expect Baker to do which is be animated in
03:33victory
03:34be loud in victory boisterous in victory I think a lot of us are expecting that a lot of us
03:39are
03:39expecting to be even madder at Deshaun Watson because we're expecting the bucks to win and
03:43Baker Mayfield to rub our nose in it but what if he just goes out there and instead of trying
03:47to roast
03:47the ball down the field here you go to Bucky Irving get off the field we went at 27 14
03:52see you next
03:53Sunday like what would we do if that happens because I think that that would be a tremendous test of
04:00Baker Mayfield going the past is the past word I don't care about the Browns the Browns
04:04are a non-factor we play in the the NFC South we're trying to go win a Super Bowl here
04:08I don't
04:09care about the stuff in the past they can go be losers like that's how you would feel if you
04:13were
04:13jettisoned by your former football team well what's funny is over the last few years as he has been able
04:19to incredibly move back up the ranks of quarterbacks when it looked like his career was over and nobody
04:25in the NFL wanted him and then this redemption arc well what came with that were the media narratives
04:31that Baker has matured I think I've said it you've said it and then when Baker was asked about that
04:36last year he's like I'm the same guy I'm no different yeah he said it himself and and you
04:40know what you do see it when he's playing out there and you know uh the fumbles were disastrous
04:46last week obviously but you still see man he's making nobody throws the ball harder yeah he does
04:52it puts more torque into the ball and he takes off and runs everybody always says he's more more
04:57athletic on his feet than you think no I think he is like I don't I don't even think that's
05:01a
05:01question I think he's a better athlete like I I don't even like the fact that people keep saying
05:05that about him like he's sneaky athletic like no he can get out and run um all the time I
05:10I just I
05:11just don't know like in that had it have been in Cleveland then I do wonder what that would have
05:17been like because I could see him throwing for touchdowns and fans cheering him like he's the home
05:22quarterback I got plenty of people who have already said like I'm going because I asked that
05:26question kind of in passing the other day like how many people down in listening in Florida on our
05:31Odyssey app are going to that game we got a lot of Browns fans in Florida and a lot in
05:34Tampa actually
05:35how many are going in a Browns Baker jersey and the response was honestly not shocking considering the
05:42last couple of weeks we've dealt with with our quarterback I wasn't really surprised at all but it
05:46was kind of overwhelming like yeah a lot of guys have Browns Bakers jerseys from back in the day or
05:50Baker Browns jerseys from back in the day they're going to wear it coming up on Sunday but you know
05:54what's the one way I think that we could get we could stay in this game and possibly win it
05:58it's
05:58nothing we do it's something that Baker would do oh him turn us well us helping turn the ball him
06:03trying to force passes that aren't there trying too hard to stick it to us like remember that Lions
06:09game I always bring that up sure there's been other games in the past where he tries to use it
06:13as a
06:14tune-up game tries to use it as a real statement game and things get away from and then all
06:19of a sudden
06:19it's the fourth quarter and it's 17-14 and it's really nothing of our doing well I told you before
06:24the game that I wanted to make a guarantee about Denzel Ward picking off his former teammate and
06:31there's still a lot of dialogue between them so my question is does Baker stay away from Denzel and say
06:37well that's the one area I don't or is he like I'm Baker Mayfield I want to put it on
06:42him and I'm
06:42going to test the very best I can't feel like that's the Baker I know the Baker I know at
06:47old Baker would
06:48be like I'm not staying away I'll throw right at 21 I'm gonna attack him I'm gonna attack him
06:52because I know if I can beat him uh that that even means more and that can that can that's
06:58what I'm
06:58saying that can reflect or that in some ways could totally kill the vibes and kill the entire defense
07:05that's what I'm saying like that's why like you go back to when he was in college I don't think
07:09I've
07:09told this story on the air they played Iowa State that guy stood at the 50 they didn't even see
07:15him
07:15warm up that guy stood at the 50 and cussed out every guy he saw in an Iowa State uniform
07:20and knew
07:21their backgrounds and knew their name and stood there at the 50 yard line pointing at him and
07:26cussing him out that was a game Iowa State won they upset him and there still was like this respect
07:31going like man this guy is a psycho he is a psycho competitor and what made him a number one
07:37overall pick
07:39psychotic competition but as you reach a different age now you're a CEO you're a franchise quarterback
07:46you got to do what's right by everybody are you going to do this and make this immensely personal
07:52because that's what got him in trouble with the 2021 team or are you gonna go we got to get
07:57back
07:58to one and one here we got to get this win I don't care about what's happened in the past
08:02he goes out
08:02there and he does that on Sunday I'm gonna go you got a different Baker Mayfield even if he goes
08:06out
08:06there in the post game I should walk it back a little bit and go even if he goes out
08:09there in
08:09the post game and rubs it in the Browns faces if he's taken what's given to him which there's
08:14probably going to be a lot given to him if they get a short field and he doesn't try to
08:18just roast
08:18it and he's like hey we're gonna we're gonna go out here we're gonna put up points and we're
08:21gonna let you beat yourselves because these games are lost a lot of times in the NFL not one and
08:26we're
08:26just better than you and we're gonna beat you I I already respect him as a QB I think there
08:32would be a different level like yeah he's reached franchise status he really has like
08:36that's the question isn't about our quarterback that's what makes us suck nobody has faith in
08:40our quarterback now we're waiting for him to be a surprise if Deshaun Watson had a normal game
08:45not a great game a normal average NFL game two touchdowns one interception a few sacks 250 yards
08:53nothing spectacular uh got the rookies involved we'd be like whoa whoa all right I didn't expect him
09:01to be able to do that exactly like that's how stunning that would be so do you think that he
09:07will be reserved on Sunday or will we come in here Monday and we'll have more to talk about I
09:12don't I
09:13think he especially the post game especially if it's a blowout we're all talking about you know
09:19we'll have moved on because we'll all be talking about Shador at that point like it'll be over but
09:23Baker inflaming things fireworks after the game do you think it's gonna go poorly yes yeah I think
09:32it's gonna go poorly Owen I imagine you think it's gonna go pouring poorly I we all think that think
09:39that way and because he's so surly and good with his words when when he wins I'm actually jealous of
09:45him because I'm like he's gonna steal some of our thunder he is gonna say things about the Browns
09:51that I'm going I would say that at 6 a.m on a Monday what are you doing you're stealing
09:54from
09:54me here what are we doing I I think I'm gonna be jealous of some of the words that Baker
09:59says
09:59out there in the podium woke up feeling dangerous was an all-timer right yes you have that potential
10:04there's you're either gonna get that or you're gonna get hopefully if you're a Browns fan you're
10:09gonna get that Lions performance where he tried too hard and almost messed the thing up yeah and it's
10:15this is a bizarre situation because there's so many fans who I think they want Baker Mayfield to
10:23do well I think they want to end this Deshaun Watson silliness once and for all and they think he
10:28can't
10:28I told you I am I'm willing to bet my children from what I know that if he goes out
10:37there and he
10:37struggles on Sunday they are not playing him at home against the Carolina it's Shador Sanders team from
10:41then on out and I think people might hear that and I think people may feel that and I think
10:47that
10:47they're gonna root against him and I'm not willing to go that far I'm not gonna do that but I
10:53think a
10:53lot of people would be just fine and dandy if it happened and if it's Baker Mayfield that tells them
10:59about themselves in that post game it's just another harsh lesson you need to learn instead of going back
11:06to crazy town which you've been to so many times it which is what caused this by the way and
11:11he had
11:12a hand in it back in the day but he had a chance to resurrect his career we don't have
11:16careers to go
11:16resurrect we just have to deal with all this and hold the bag on it
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