00:01john want to update people where the lions are in most power rankings they were not in the power
00:06surge yes on only one industry site has them in the top six okay it's the athletic
00:15everybody else has them 10 or or lower so usa today has them 10th sporting news 11th cbs sports
00:22has the lions 12 yahoo and espn both say 13th nfl.com and sports illustrated have the lions
00:3014th obviously everybody bumped them up a little bit yeah with the win there's some other losses
00:36but a win against the jets wasn't overly impressive i'm curious as to what this will look like
00:45week seven or eight because we'll get an idea more of what all of these teams are
00:51they're you know more every single team has some warts what's which ones are going to be more
01:00costly and when they get brian branch back that's the one known commodity that we'll get back and
01:07it's a little bit unknown as to what he's going to be but i believe he's going to be better
01:10than
01:10whatever the lions have out there now so that will improve the defense do the lions make a trade
01:17another question yeah and if they do and it's a player added in the secondary
01:22and whether it's joey porter jr or somebody else i believe it will be an upgrade what does an
01:28upgraded corner position and an upgraded safety mean for this team because the biggest wart the
01:33lions have clearly is the secondary yeah all right we're gonna go tom versus vegas we got to come see
01:40versus the desert so we were talking off air yesterday and i was looking through the division
01:47odds in the nfc north the lions are the favorites tom you had shared that you think the lions should
01:53actually be third right now yeah look i the way you're presenting this is making me kind of
02:01rishy-washy on this because this is a projection by vegas i'm doing right now right now the detroit
02:07lions are the third best team in this division and i don't even think there's a question about it
02:11they've allowed the most points in the nfl i think people fall in love with sexy offenses and don't like
02:18great defenses in this business i just always think people get caught up in in the fluff and
02:25the flare and all that this team's allowed 95 freaking points in three games how can you say they're the
02:31best team in the division well and so going back to my power surge i had the vikings in there
02:36and it was not because of their offense which is why you know you brought it up like it's
02:41they beat the bears but it was a 9-3 win it's brian flores and the defense that the vikings
02:48are
02:48playing i think is it's one of the best defenses in the nfl and it will continue to be that
02:54way i
02:54think that is going to be consistent for minnesota throughout the course of the year i mean minnesota
02:57has a huge jump on the division right now they're 2-0 in the division you know one of those
03:02is a road
03:02win they've uh only allowed just over 13 points per game this season i i just don't know the world
03:10where people think the detroit lions are better than minnesota vikings other than you're caught in
03:14some offensive fluff highlight reel i mean the lions seriously they give the the three opponents
03:20they've played those opponents that's their single game high total in in a game this year so
03:25it's until i see them put up some sort of defense with that secondary i mean you've blown two
03:31double digit fourth quarter leads at home against what i would say are mediocre teams
03:38so you when you say third though that means you have the bears and the vikings ahead of detroit right
03:42now yeah i do and i i think the the bears have two 20 point wins and a tough divisional
03:48loss at home
03:48where they lost their quarterback at the end in a rainstorm to be fair they were losing while he
03:54was healthy in said rainstorm right and i'm just glad that he'll be able to still play this year
04:01eventually he'll survive it's a very dramatic injury i think he can have a definitely coaching
04:09debate we'll do that tomorrow in a thursday touchdown in the division look do i think the
04:14lions can get there yes do i think they can get their defense to a 2023 level i do with
04:20branch
04:20returning and pairing him with izzie in and uh maybe rake straw is playable you know it's a very
04:28good development to get something from that 2024 draft class yes and then your offensive fluff that
04:33you know can put on a show and they then they can outscore teams i don't know if they can
04:37outscore
04:37good teams right now okay i just want to pause you keep saying fluff they have the best quarterback
04:41in the division to me that is meaningful right like i'm not going to just chalk that up to all
04:45kids
04:45in their scoring these days we have the best quarterback in this division and we've seen
04:49the offensive line get better right that was the emphasis from the team this offseason we could
04:54say they ignored the secondary but they emphasize the o-line so if you're telling me got the best
04:58quarterback my offensive line solidifying this team should be four and one going to the bye get
05:03cade mays and brian branch back like i think they should still be the number one team in this division
05:08okay but we are talking about two different things you're talking about what it looks like as i brought up
05:14in
05:14week seven or eight and tom is talking about what they are right now through three games yeah i think
05:20i'm you know last year they were the fourth best team in the division the worst team in the division
05:24you know and so they're better i always i always look at the nfl worry about your division first
05:29yeah and i'm a little bit worried about this division i don't know if they would i would probably
05:35pick the vikings to beat them if they came here right now so if we're just doing right now the
05:38minnesota is undefeated and you put them number one the bears are oh and one in the division
05:44so they can't be ahead of the lions right well i mean i think they've played better football than
05:52the detroit lions this year their defense has surprised me and it's certainly been better
05:57than our defense they've only allowed 16 points the last two games and they've generated turnovers
06:02yeah which again i'm not sure how they continue to do it it's the pope is what it is well
06:07it could
06:08be the pope um and second to that is dennis allen and when you're talking about teams
06:14now i'm just picturing like the pope dennis allen well okay so like they're talking about
06:20make dennis allen the pope we're talking about waiting brian flores i think you also have to
06:25give credit to dennis allen for being able to generate those turnovers for a secondary that we
06:32think is subpar and we have calvin shepherd and a secondary that is subpar when aaron glenn left
06:40what was one of the names that we thought would be a possibility here before ben johnson picked up
06:45dennis allen because of the connection with the coaching tree in new orleans yes uh and with dan
06:50campbell would this team be in a better position right now if they had a proven play caller and if
06:56they had if they had dennis allen we had dennis allen and his holy water that he's sprinkling on the
07:00well he wouldn't have the holy water here right because so maybe it's only chicago maybe if calvin
07:05shepherd was in chicago maybe that's just the holy water the power of christ compels this defense
07:10what are you supposed to say 248-539-9797 yes i told you it's not fair i might be framing
07:17this
07:18unfairly tom versus vegas but we want to know what you think of the lions and how they stack up
07:22in the
07:22division 248-539-9797 vegas the big tall buildings in the desert says they are the betting favorite to win
07:30this well vegas was right when florida played old miss and florida put up what 54 on them 52 52
07:38something like that yeah a 50 burger yeah yet at the same time tom looked at what happened on monday
07:45night and says the bears are ahead of us and looks at the vikings in their defense and says minnesota
07:49is ahead of us so you let us know 248-539-9797
07:54it's it's it's interesting because we are kind of approaching this from two different perspectives
07:59it's almost like we're comparing apples to oranges where they are right now i don't necessarily disagree
08:04with tom where they'll be in three or four weeks i i tend to agree with vegas yeah i'm open
08:10to the
08:10possibility that the minnesota vikings are this year seattle seahawks with the defense and they want
08:15a super bowl with sam darnold so is kyla murray an upgrade over sam darnold don't know yet these are
08:23the big questions people it's 97-1
