00:00Somebody said I'm making excuses for Isaiah Bond, which I didn't.
00:03I said KC Concepcion without hands is better than Isaiah Bond.
00:09I mean, Mick and Fitzpatrick tried to make the guy into the headless horseman.
00:13I think KC Concepcion without a head and hands is better than Isaiah Bond.
00:19That's why you had to have KC Concepcion.
00:21How crazy was it seeing him run for that first down with no helmet on?
00:27He was a gamer.
00:29And they want me mad.
00:30Somebody else called me Mary Ken Carman.
00:33Everything is happy.
00:34Everything is great.
00:36I didn't say everything was great.
00:37I feel pretty good because the Guardians won.
00:40I'll tell you that right now.
00:41I feel the season's already a success for the Guardians, which we'll talk about a little bit.
00:45But guys, I'm not going to sit here and fake my emotions.
00:49It's not going to happen.
00:50I'm not bad.
00:51Wouldn't this morning just have – doesn't it feel like almost a little bit hollow, though?
00:54Because I hear what you're saying.
00:56The Guardians softened the blow of what yesterday was for the Browns.
01:00Yeah, they did.
01:01But wouldn't it have today felt like so much more fun, such a bigger party?
01:05If the Browns were 4-1, Ken, we would have been in here actually talking about their path to the
01:11NFL playoffs.
01:12That's all tabled at 3-2.
01:14I get that.
01:15Well, you know what?
01:17I don't even think it's tabled at 3-2.
01:19It might be tabled at 3-3.
01:20I mean, I went back.
01:21I heard what you said.
01:22I mean, I went back and looked at the 2020 Browns.
01:25Like, there's a couple of bad losses in there.
01:27There are a couple of, like – there are a couple of farts in there.
01:29The 2020 Jets were 2-14.
01:32You went out to New York and you lost to the Jets.
01:34Well, technically, Jersey.
01:36You had no receivers that game.
01:37You had no receivers this game.
01:39Everybody was sick.
01:40Everybody had COVID.
01:42They ran – they did walk through, like, in the parking garage.
01:45They also didn't play very well.
01:46They also didn't play very well.
01:47The whole thing was just –
01:48Okay, at the end of the year, too, right?
01:50The whole thing about this was just –
01:51After a winning season.
01:52It was just a game that we thought – that we needed at that time.
01:54Like, we knew that they were in the playoffs, basically.
01:55No, no, no, no.
01:56Not December 27th.
01:58They didn't know they were in the playoffs.
01:59December 27th in a 16-game season?
02:01They were 10-5.
02:02I think they were the 7th seed.
02:04They were 10-4 going into that game.
02:06They lost.
02:07They were 10-5.
02:09No, they were 12-5.
02:1211-6.
02:14Wait a minute.
02:14Wait, 11-5.
02:15They only played 16 games.
02:16They didn't know they were in until the end of the year.
02:19They were, like, the 7th seed.
02:20They were 11-5.
02:21It just felt like the Browns were telling this beautiful story
02:24that I so badly wanted to believe,
02:27that young teams in the National Football League didn't have to be bad.
02:30And you could be a young team that does unbelievable things
02:34and outlives expectations.
02:35Maybe that's what this season still can be.
02:38But at 4-1, it would have been more believable than at 3-2.
02:42Especially 3-2.
02:44With losing to those Jets.
02:47You lost to the Jets.
02:48You've lost to the Jets before.
02:50And it stings every time.
02:52I think they probably would have felt,
02:53a lot of people would have felt,
02:53you lost to those Browns.
02:55It's like, you're better.
02:57You're still not, like, there's a difference between a contender
03:01for the playoffs and a contender.
03:02And you're still not that team, man.
03:04It's going to take another draft or two.
03:06We have to get our quarterback situation firmly figured out here.
03:10We're still, we are still in a wait-and-see mode with Deshaun Watson,
03:14and I think yesterday proved that.
03:16And yet, this is the beauty of being a fan of all the teams in town.
03:20Is that, yeah, sometimes, and a lot of times it's the other two covering
03:24for the Browns, considering our history.
03:26Sometimes the other teams cover for the other ones.
03:29So, yeah, the Guardians going to the ALCS,
03:32being eight wins away from winning something they haven't won since 1948,
03:36is a bigger deal than week five.
03:39It's a much bigger deal.
03:40And so, since they won, it put me in an exceedingly good mood yesterday morning.
03:45And at 3-2, it ain't all over.
03:49It's week five.
03:50So, I'm not that upset.
03:54I'm a little surprised.
03:56I am a little surprised about this, Owen.
03:57I do have to say.
03:58Okay.
03:59Because I'm sorry.
04:00I was looking forward to coming in.
04:01I'm not sorry.
04:02Hopefully being 4-1 and getting to do all the charades that you guys do on the show
04:06after a Browns win.
04:07I wanted to do Super Bowl, Super Browns.
04:09It would have felt so much more.
04:11Don't blame me.
04:11It would have felt so much more intense because we know that the Guardians
04:14are playing a huge game tonight.
04:16And it would have been like, look at us.
04:18Look at Cleveland.
04:18But it ain't my fault.
04:19Look at Northeast Ohio.
04:20Ohio, we're on top of the sports universe.
04:22And we are on top of the baseball universe.
04:24We're one of the top of the last four teams remaining.
04:26Too bad.
04:26I worry that this football team is not heading towards the NFL playoffs.
04:30And I worry that yesterday's showcase, they're actually heading towards being a bottom four
04:35team in the league.
04:36And then we have a lot more painful weeks in store for us.
04:39Wait a minute.
04:39How is that worrisome?
04:41When so many people thought we were going to be a bottom four team in the league anyway.
04:44Because they gave you a glimmer of hope.
04:46No, they gave you a glimmer of what could be when they have more depth.
04:49They gave you a glimmer of what could be when you have more high-end draft picks.
04:52That's what they gave you a glimmer of.
04:54So there's definitely a foundation there.
04:55Now, I wouldn't be thrilled if they went out there and they ended up 3-14 and we never won
04:59a game for the rest of the year.
05:01Obviously.
05:01But I don't think it's that football team.
05:02I don't think they're going to be that way.
05:04They're probably somewhere in the neighborhood, a 7, and if the ball bounces their way like
05:08it didn't yesterday, 7 of 10 wins.
05:10And if they get the 7 wins, who's going to be sitting there screaming and yelling?
05:14I'm not.
05:14And I think a lot of people go, hey, it's probably better than I thought they were going
05:17to be.
05:18So you still have that in play.
05:19So there's no reason for me to stand here and lose my mind with you on a Monday morning
05:24after they went.
05:25It's not a good loss, but they went and they lost to the Jets.
05:28I didn't hear them talking tough.
05:30I didn't hear them being arrogant.
05:31I didn't have a quarterback shave his face three different times in the loss on the
05:35road.
05:36Like, none of that happened.
05:37So how am I supposed to be that mad?
05:41I'm madder at the people who think I should be mad than I am at the Browns.
05:45I just kind of can't get over that it gave me a glimpse into some of the things that are
05:51really going to trip up this team the rest of the way.
05:54The fact that they don't have a run game.
05:56That's a concern.
05:57The fact that the offensive line is playing this poorly, that's a concern.
06:00You weren't here.
06:01I understand that.
06:02But there was a time over these last couple of weeks, like I wasn't going to sit there
06:06and bring it up on Friday right after the right after the win over the Pittsburgh Steelers.
06:11But, you know, again, it's a coach's mentality.
06:13And Owen knows this.
06:14And like Coach Lance knows this.
06:16You don't turn the screws on your football team after losses.
06:19You do it after wins.
06:20They're much more receptive to that stuff.
06:22So the things that we've had problems with, the penalties were pretty nice in the first half.
06:26And then late penalties started to really get you with the illegal motions and the false
06:30starts and the et cetera, et cetera.
06:32Like those things, they come back and bite you in the ass.
06:34And again, you're not that deep.
06:36So when you have Sam Kamara, who ended up making a sack yesterday, but when you have Sam Kamara
06:40and who the hell was it?
06:41Chris Williams.
06:42Chris Williams, who were coming in at your defensive tackle spots, they are not Mike Hall
06:46and they are certainly not Mason Graham, who was off to a hell of a start.
06:49That's explainable.
06:50Isaiah Bond is not Casey Concepcion by any means.
06:54They both wear an NFL jersey and that's it.
06:57And so when you don't have Casey Concepcion and it makes it easier to bracket around Denzel
07:01Boston, who's still got a 29-yard touchdown catch, it makes it a little bit easier to do
07:06that job.
07:06It makes it a little bit easier to cover up on Harold Fannin Jr.
07:09When you still don't have a great run game, when Quinchot Junkins, who left the game in
07:13a boot yesterday, I don't know if that's an excuse anymore.
07:17He's just not been what we've needed him to be.
07:19And I just don't want to, I'm not going to compare him to Nick or anything like that.
07:23He's just not been what we've needed him to be so far.
07:25And that's a disappointment.
07:27You're still not deep running the football.
07:29You're just not a deep team.
07:30So you're going to lose some football games.
07:31You're going to lose some football games.
07:34So yeah, I reserve the right as a sports fan to have one team cover up the emotions for
07:41another one because they've played at a much higher level with much more at stake than
07:45what the Cleveland Browns did.
07:47That's fine.
07:50I'm just, I don't need to be sitting here screaming every Monday.
07:55If I do the same thing every Monday, eventually it's just a tune out.
07:59Yeah, I get that.
08:00So I'm not going to sit there and fake a reaction every Monday based on how I don't feel.
08:05And I don't, I'm not mad at him for losing the football game.
08:08It's explainable.
08:09So that's where we are a little bit different because I'm not like red face, man.
08:13I've been, well, you're all, you're all afraid.
08:14Like the season's going to fall apart.
08:16I'm like, what, what, what season?
08:17What were the, what were the expectations of this team?
08:21Oh, when, when they're playing, don't, when they're playing the journey at practice and
08:25you've got ESPN putting up 75% 75%.
08:2975% is what ESPN was telling me.
08:32It's your fault for believing it.
08:3375% for teams that start three and one with the current post-season format that lets all
08:37of these wildcard teams in three and one, you should be a show in for the post-season.
08:41When you don't have the depth that we don't have, it's not, you're, you're, you're looking
08:45at probably the 25%.
08:47Doesn't mean I'm still not trying to play seven and heaven tomorrow.
08:50I don't think after one week we should table seven in heaven.
08:52Well, you're not doing it.
08:53Well, I'm doing it.
08:54I will shoehorn it in.
08:56All right.
08:562-1-6-4-7-4-0-0-92.
08:58A lot of people want to get in on this.
08:59I told you we were going to do this though.
09:02The only way to address it is head on.
09:05Cause it's the craziest thing I think I've ever heard on this station in 15 years that
09:10never had to, never had to be dumped.
09:13Ken Carmen, Anthony Lima, or excuse me, Nick Padone in for Anthony Lima live on the fan.
