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Firing a head coach midseason comes with massive risks, but sticking with Dan Quinn could completely derail Washington's future. The Junkies weigh the pros and cons of letting Dan Quinn go.
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00:00Is now the time for the Commanders to fire Coach Quinn?
00:04Heading into the bye week, you could reassemble your coaching staff
00:07if you choose to make that move.
00:09Or do you give him the rest of the season to try to right the ship?
00:14Coming out of the bye week, two home games,
00:17schedule softens a bit after the Eagles and the Rams game.
00:22You have games against the Titans, games against the Cardinals.
00:25Wait a second.
00:25You also have games against the Bengals.
00:27The schedule softened because the Rams aren't as good as we thought they were.
00:31They have a losing record.
00:31And the Eagles have a backup quarterback.
00:33So it kind of softened itself.
00:35I don't think we need to wait until after the Eagles and Rams
00:38for the schedule to soften.
00:39It's softer now.
00:41And there was a soft spot last week against the Giants.
00:43That was a soft spot.
00:45But to answer your question, Cakes, I voted yes in the poll of the day.
00:50I don't think they have anything to lose by moving on.
00:53They probably don't have much to gain.
00:54Generally speaking, interim head coaches in the NFL don't have greater success
01:00than the previous head coach.
01:03But what do you have to lose at this point?
01:06Maybe, and it's probably a small percent chance,
01:09but maybe if somebody else is the person making the key decisions,
01:15whether to go for a field goal, whether to go forward on fourth down,
01:19end of game situations,
01:21maybe that leads to a win or two that you haven't had.
01:24They've had close games.
01:26They've had the Eagles game,
01:28which comes down to potentially a two-point conversion, right?
01:31You had this game.
01:32They've had these close games.
01:34Maybe a different coach leads them to a win.
01:36What if he pulls a locks,
01:38and he fires,
01:40but he reassigns Blau.
01:41He did it with wit last year,
01:43and then he names Anthony Lynn offensive coordinator.
01:47Six games in,
01:48he's going to toss Blau overboard?
01:51I mean, I don't know.
01:52He'd just say,
01:52hey, listen, we're in a tough spot here.
01:54There's been some things here that we just can't get on the same page with,
01:57and we just need,
01:58we're in kind of a desperate mood here.
01:59I don't think that's the move.
02:00The move,
02:01and he tossed this out last year.
02:02I don't think it's the move.
02:03I'm just throwing out a...
02:04I don't think firing Dan's the move either.
02:06The move for Dan Quinn in your scenario, B,
02:10would be he would fire Durante Jones
02:12because he's a defensive guy
02:13and say,
02:13I'm taking over.
02:14That's what coaches do
02:15that last bit of desperation.
02:17Like, Ron Rivera did that.
02:18He can't ever fire an offensive coordinator
02:21just because he's not on the side.
02:22Well, he could,
02:22but he kind of did.
02:23He already did that,
02:24and you know what the defense did?
02:26Didn't really improve that much under Dan Quinn,
02:28so why would he do that again?
02:29I think to answer your question...
02:31Well, it's not getting better with Durante Jones.
02:32They're 29th in points,
02:34and I looked at yardage.
02:35They're 26th in yardage.
02:36I do think at moments they look better.
02:38They played a really good second...
02:39Their numbers belie it,
02:40but I do think at times they look better.
02:41They played a really good second half last night
02:43and held a team
02:44that has been dominating offensively
02:46to three points.
02:46And they're creating turnovers
02:47for the first time in forever.
02:49Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:49I do think at times they look better.
02:51This is what I would say
02:51when you ask JP,
02:52what do you have to lose?
02:53I think you could...
02:56It's possible.
02:57I don't know what's going on in the locker room,
02:58but it's risky
02:59because you could lose the locker room
03:01if you fire the head coach.
03:02If they truly have his back.
03:04Because a lot of those guys
03:05could have his back.
03:06And that could be...
03:07If you lose the locker room there,
03:09then you're ending the season.
03:10And you're saying,
03:11all right, we're giving up.
03:12We're looking to next year.
03:13You can go to AtJunksRadio on Twitter
03:15and vote.
03:16Should the commanders move on
03:17from Dan Quinn during the bye week?
03:19So far, 295 votes.
03:22Jason, what do you think the percentage is?
03:24What do you think the percentage is?
03:2575 to 80%.
03:26Very close.
03:2773.2% say yes to fire Dan Quinn.
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03:48Respond.
03:48It's like you're riddled with cancer.
03:50You got it everywhere.
03:51It's in your lung,
03:51your liver.
03:52It's in your heart.
03:53It's like everywhere.
03:54And then do you just want to die today
03:55or do you want to wait a couple more weeks
03:57and live a few more weeks?
03:58And that's a grim way of looking at it.
04:00Well, I mean, that's his job.
04:01I'll give you another option.
04:02Another option is...
04:03He's riddled with cancer.
04:04It's over.
04:04Okay, but here's the other option.
04:06Do you want to try the experimental drug
04:08which could save your life?
04:10The experimental drug would be...
04:11What is the experimental drug?
04:12New OC.
04:13Firing him.
04:14No, firing Dan Quinn.
04:15Well, no, that kills you.
04:16You're dead.
04:17I don't think so.
04:17Firing Dan Quinn
04:18and installing somebody else
04:20as the head coach.
04:21It's a grasper.
04:22It's flying to a different country
04:25to get some experimental drug
04:27to save your life
04:28to get the cancer out of you.
04:30But they're not dead.
04:31They're not dead yet.
04:32That is...
04:32They're not...
04:33That's true.
04:33They're not...
04:34They're just not dead yet.
04:35And I think if there were...
04:36Even though they're 1-4-1.
04:37I know on paper it looks like they are,
04:38but they're not.
04:39I think if there were a super obvious
04:41person to replace him on the staff,
04:42I think that they would probably do it.
04:45But, I mean, Anthony Lynn...
04:47I mean...
04:48Anthony Lynn had issues...
04:49That's not an inspiring...
04:50He had clock management issues
04:51when he was with the Chargers.
04:52He's not saying he's great,
04:53it's just different.
04:54You got raw guys at OC and DC.
04:56You're not going to L.A.
04:57I would only...
04:58So you vote no.
04:59I vote no.
05:00I vote yes.
05:01By the way, here's halftime.
05:02I put the poll up.
05:04Halftime.
05:05And it wasn't should he.
05:06It was would you want
05:09the organization to replace Dan Quinn?
05:11What do you think it was
05:11at halftime yesterday?
05:13Oh, 100%.
05:1592%.
05:1698%.
05:1686% said they want to move on.
05:18I'm surprised it was that low.
05:19They were getting boat raced at halftime.
05:20So the second half
05:21maybe saves Dan Quinn's job,
05:24but if you believe that the ending
05:26is he will not be the head coach
05:28next season,
05:30what is the point of keeping him now?
05:32Because it's a grasper.
05:34I admit it's a grasper.
05:35But if you install somebody else,
05:38maybe if Anthony Lynn was coach,
05:39he kicks that field goal
05:41instead of going forward on fourth down.
05:42That doesn't guarantee a win.
05:44The point is,
05:45they're in a bad division
05:46and he could still
05:48keep everybody together
05:50through a softer part of the schedule
05:51and they can recover
05:53and potentially win the division.
05:56There's been multiple times
05:57where the team started out
05:58like three and six
05:59and they pulled a season
06:00out of their butt.
06:01It doesn't mean they're cured
06:01or they're fixed,
06:03but they, you know,
06:04and the way the schedule lays out,
06:06they might be able to go on
06:07a little bit of a run.
06:09And I'm sorry,
06:09but I like having him on the show.
06:12He's been good.
06:12He was on on Monday.
06:14Adam Peters deserves
06:15a lot more criticism too
06:18because, you know,
06:19they were pointing out
06:19on the broadcast,
06:20San Francisco's got undrafted guys
06:23who are impact players.
06:24And you look at just the talent.
06:27They've got way more talent
06:28than Washington.
06:29This is the third year.
06:30You know, you talk about
06:31whether it takes five years
06:33to turn an organization around.
06:35Well, we all said
06:37when Quinn and Peters took over,
06:40you kind of had to be patient
06:41and wait till year three.
06:42The clock completely changed
06:44because of what happened
06:45during Jaden's rookie season
06:46that made it to
06:47the NFC Championship game.
06:48But by year three,
06:49you should have assembled
06:50some really good talent.
06:51Here's the real irony too.
06:52You should have assembled
06:53some depth.
06:54Well, JP,
06:54it's not just the undrafted guy
06:56who were impact players.
06:57Their quarterback,
06:58who's in the MVP discussion,
06:59was the last pick in the draft.
07:02The irony is
07:02that's more impressive.
07:04Peters,
07:04who's now getting criticized,
07:05helped build that roster.
07:07Helped build the roster
07:08and then came here.
07:10So some of those players
07:11that were sending him
07:13and his organization
07:15to another loss,
07:16he helped put them in place.
07:17He was part of drafting
07:18Brock Purdy.
07:19Right.
07:20Now, I don't know
07:20if that could have been
07:21John Lynch,
07:21but who knows.
07:22He's getting criticized
07:22for shortcomings
07:24of this roster.
07:26He also drafted
07:27Cakes' guy,
07:27Trey Lance.
07:28Yeah, I was clearly wrong
07:30on Trey Lance.
07:31I backed the wrong horse,
07:32but that's been well established.
07:34Well, he wasn't the GM.
07:35John Lynch could have said,
07:36we want Trey Lance.
07:37Right.
07:37That's very possible, too.
07:39We just don't know.
07:39If you're asking me
07:40to defend Peters
07:41or Quinn at this point,
07:43I got no defense.
07:45The defense rests.
07:47Just say whatever
07:47you want to say
07:48and I say, okay.
07:49But you would vote no.
07:50You want to retain
07:51Dan Quinn right now.
07:52You want to retain Dan Quinn.
07:53No, no, no.
07:54I'm not saying that.
07:54You want to retain Dan Quinn.
07:55I'm not saying that.
07:56No, right now, by least.
07:57I don't care.
07:58I would.
07:59I get it,
07:59but can you choose a side ever?
08:01I don't think it matters.
08:03I think he's fired anyway.
08:04Okay.
08:05So, I don't care.
08:06You have to choose.
08:06You're the owner.
08:07Then he's keep Dan Quinn.
08:08I think he's...
08:09Your status quo.
08:10It's hard for me
08:10to be a hypothetical here
08:13because I do think
08:14he saved his job
08:14in the second half.
08:15I do think he was gone
08:16in halftime.
08:17I think he was gone
08:17Would you fire him
08:19or would you retain him?
08:21I would probably
08:22let him fire himself more.
08:24So, you'd retain him?
08:26Probably.
08:26That's what I said
08:27and you argued with me.
08:28I'm thinking it through.
08:29Jesus Christ.
08:31Let me think things through.
08:32You know what?
08:33It is a terrible Tuesday.
08:35I'm allowed to think.
08:36I'm allowed to think
08:37reaction on everything.
08:38Let me think things through.
08:39Can I say
08:40that I would keep him
08:41because the season
08:42is not lost yet
08:43and the locker room
08:45might still back him
08:46100%
08:46and if you let him go
08:48you're telling the team
08:50the season's over
08:51we're quitting on him.
08:52So, I think it's better
08:53to keep him.
08:54Now, if they lose
08:55the next two or three
08:56okay, that's a different story
08:58but they're still in it
08:59with the division
08:59I was going to put that qualifier
09:01if they come out of the bye
09:02looking flat
09:02and get smashed
09:04by the Rams
09:05and or Eagles
09:07then it might be time.
09:08I do think it's a
09:09week to week referendum.
09:10Yeah.
09:11He's on the thinnest device
09:12right now.
09:13And then for all the people
09:14that said
09:14this ownership group
09:15doesn't fire
09:16remember I told you
09:17a couple weeks ago
09:18that's foolish
09:20because he's vulnerable
09:21any one of these weeks.
09:23Yes.
09:23I actually think
09:24at halftime
09:24if the game ended
09:25at halftime
09:26he was going to get fired
09:27because of the look
09:29it just was a bad look
09:30they were overwhelmed
09:32and Jason I think
09:33is now defending him
09:34and actually believes
09:36what DQ's saying
09:37I don't know
09:38what to believe
09:38Well, because I re-read
09:40his lips
09:41Okay.
09:42Now, he does say
09:43field goal
09:43He re-read his lips
09:44I re-read it
09:45Yeah.
09:45So, say what you think
09:47exactly happened
09:48because he's having
09:48a conversation
09:49with people on the headset
09:50Alright, so everyone's
09:51killing him now
09:51post-game
09:52because they think
09:53he said
09:53oh, it's fourth down
09:56He didn't say that
09:57Yeah.
09:57He goes for the fourth
09:59and two
09:59Yeah.
10:00Okay, JD throws
10:01the ball away
10:02Yeah.
10:03Alright, but there was
10:03a flag
10:05Now, this is where
10:06I kind of criticize him
10:07He thought it was
10:08a pre-snap penalty
10:10meaning they'll back
10:11him up five yards
10:12and it's still
10:12fourth down
10:13Which is on brand
10:14for them
10:14pre-snap penalties
10:15So, when JD throws
10:16it away
10:17and he gets on
10:18the headset
10:18he goes
10:18field goal
10:19field goal
10:19because it's
10:20fourth and seven
10:21now
10:21He thinks it's
10:21fourth and seven
10:22That's what he thinks
10:22Not fourth and two
10:23And then he's told
10:24in the headset
10:25No, it's first down
10:26They can decline
10:26And he goes
10:27Oh, wait a minute
10:28It's a first down?
10:29That means San Francisco
10:30has the ball
10:30That's why he says
10:32F
10:32He didn't say
10:34it's fourth down
10:34He said it's first down
10:35He was confused on the down
10:36He was confused on the penalty
10:37Yeah, yeah
10:37I still criticize him
10:39I think that makes sense
10:39I think that makes sense
10:40I still criticize him
10:41for going for it there
10:42But he didn't think
10:43it was fourth down
10:44I think you're right
10:45Yeah
10:46He's 3-14-1
10:48in his last 18 games
10:49Yeah
10:50Yeah, it's not great
10:51He's now spent
10:52without Jaden
10:52for a lot of those games
10:53Who cares?
10:54He's fired anyway
10:55It's a matter of
10:56when, not if
10:57Right, so I pull the plug now
10:59But just as you said
11:00interims usually don't do jack
11:02Usually, but there's a few
11:03There's a few
11:04that have done well
11:04There's also coaches
11:06that are dead
11:06that quit on the season
11:07like Mike Shanahan
11:08in 2012
11:08and they go and they
11:09rip off a bunch of wins
11:10So sometimes that happens too
11:12Nobody thought that was happening
11:14No
11:14In 2012
11:15I agree with you
11:15That team was dead
11:16We did radio shows that week
11:18about him basically
11:19He basically gave up on the season
11:21if you remember
11:21Yes
11:22Oh, I do remember
11:24Evaluating players for next year
11:25Correct
11:25If they pulled the plug on Quinn
11:27I'm not
11:28And they elevated
11:29Anthony Lynn
11:30My expectations are
11:32down on the floor
11:33They're lower
11:35So then you have to be
11:37Stay with him then
11:38I'm saying stay with Dan Quinn
11:40Their winning percentage
11:41is 20% right now
11:43Why would it be lower?
11:44I'm curious what you're thinking
11:45No, I just think
11:46it would be about the same
11:47I don't think you'd get
11:48any bump from Anthony Lynn
11:50Yeah
11:50I don't think he's some
11:51brilliant tactician
11:52that's just waiting in the wings
11:54No, I don't think he's brilliant
11:55The only idea would be
11:56that this guy's just a buffoon
11:57and get the buffoon
11:58out of the building
11:59Yeah
11:59And I don't know
12:00if people think he's a buffoon
12:01Sometimes he looks like it
12:02I think a lot of people
12:03that follow the charges
12:04think that Anthony Lynn
12:05was a buffoon
12:06and he was there
12:06So
12:07Yeah
12:08But I think also
12:09people do respect
12:09So we're going to have
12:10JK on at
12:11John Komet
12:11at 740
12:12You want to take a break here
12:13and then take calls
12:14on the DQ stuff?
12:15Yeah, everybody wants
12:16to chime in on DQ
12:17We've got Tony, Mike, Brian,
12:18Jamal, Gary, Sean, Lawrence
12:20We'll get to all you guys
12:21Promise
12:22I'll just point out one thing
12:23about the Anthony Lynn
12:24slander in a way
12:25Yeah
12:26His career record
12:28Okay
12:28I think he had one good year
12:29Basically 500
12:3033 and 31
12:31He was 9-7
12:3212-4
12:33Made the playoffs
12:34Yeah, he had a 12-4 year
12:35And he was 5-11
12:367-9
12:37Yeah
12:38Eerily
12:40reminiscent of
12:40Ron Rivera
12:41and Dan Quinn
12:42You know what I'm saying
12:43I've always said
12:46the stars have to align
12:47You've got to have
12:48the right guys
12:48Well, they got the quarterback
12:50They got a quarterback
12:51They got the quarterback
12:51I agree with that
12:52You're losing games
12:53with the quarterback
12:54all these years
12:55But you know what
12:56they don't have
12:56They don't have
12:57an offensive line
12:57They don't have
12:58consistent defense
12:59They may not have
13:00the right coach
13:00There's a lot of stuff
13:02My point is
13:02all these years
13:03we said
13:03wait until they get
13:04the franchise quarterback
13:05They don't have
13:06a franchise quarterback
13:06How can you win
13:07without a franchise quarterback
13:08Now they got him
13:10But they don't have
13:10the other parts
13:11And the guy hasn't won
13:12in like two years