00:00uh if we have it here a little bit but it's just like if we don't have it we won't
00:05play it well
00:06then we'll tell you what he said does that sound um probably conversations that should have been
00:11had in the break but um that you know you're sitting here with four quarterbacks live radio
00:17it's live here let's have fun um that you're sitting here with four quarterbacks like it
00:22doesn't like why would you have four quarterbacks on a roster i keep asking that i know steelers
00:27i got it but it doesn't happen very often the position is made to have two active on game day
00:32and a and a guy to be an emergency quarterback on game day the other question i have too is
00:39you know
00:39what kind of a return would you get if the return isn't what you want it to be then there's
00:43no reason
00:44to trade them just hang out there you go that i understand too i mean i understand i agree with
00:48that all of the elements of this thing i also think that you're looking at a deadline that that trade
00:54deadline on the 10th comes into play and you know are you shopping him is something's going to happen
01:00at the last second are we looking at injuries maybe that could happen over the weekend do you want to
01:05you know make sure that you've got house money just in case your quarterback doesn't stay healthy
01:10i think there's a lot of different little things that play into this but the bottom line for me is
01:15i
01:15just don't see a reason to hang on to four quarterbacks haven't before rarely do now i do understand why
01:21you would hang on to four quarterbacks until the 10th now that you're this far into the season
01:26you know and i also brought up the argument before that todd munkin hasn't made many mistakes this year
01:32at least i don't think so but i do now kind of look back and say hmm why did we
01:37do that quarterback
01:37competition during camp why did they do that well because it turned you into a five and two football
01:43team or maybe you could have been even better than that maybe you might have been a little better
01:48week one if your starting quarterback had the majority of the reps during camp instead of
01:54splitting them devil's advocate sure maybe a competition actually sharpened deshaun watson's
02:01game and for the first time in his career he thought oh you know what i better bring it i
02:07might get beat
02:07out by a fifth rounder yep or a third round maybe maybe give the third rounder a chance rounder yeah
02:13who was that andy i think he was the guy that just activated yesterday he carried the balls to and
02:18from the field right that's what i'm hearing okay i'm hearing seriously accordance with the radioactive
02:251927 equal time for dylan gabriel and he deserves it for dylan seriously maybe you know i'm just i'm
02:35just babbling i'm babbling here maybe being in a competition actually sharpened deshaun watson's game
02:41i mean the guy got everything he wanted when he was traded here even though he didn't want to be
02:46traded here until the price tag went way up then it's like hey cleveland brown's great and he was
02:52handed the job after 11 game suspension and it was always his job well this year it wasn't his job
02:59maybe he actually sharpened his game by having to compete with chador rather than yeah i'm the starter
03:05i'm getting most of the reps that's great i don't i don't know any maybe all i know is they're
03:11five and two yeah and it's steelers week and it's steelers there'll be eight quarterbacks that
03:16could be dressed between the two teams on sunday all having to wait until the last second to find
03:21out if they're well that's not true but at least the bottom four you know waiting to find out if
03:26they're allowed to dress seriously maybe maybe nfl teams need to rethink the quarterback position
03:33and i'm not being i'm trying not to be funny here maybe they need to rethink it and jalen hurts
03:40gets knocked out you know with blood clots for philadelphia well there's there's tanner sitting
03:46there playing quarterback last night against dallas right um you see guys dropping all over the place
03:53and backups coming in and it's only going to get worse maybe maybe they need to have four quarterbacks
04:02maybe the browns are and steelers are cutting edge i don't think so i think the game is set up
04:07to
04:07have three quarterbacks on your roster 216-474-0092 216-474-0092 what say you dan menigan
04:18can i toss you guys a conspiracy theory oh go for it love those okay so right now and i
04:26know i'm going
04:26to hear it if you remove the record from this team yeah right and just looked at this offense
04:32as its core you would say it sputters until about the fourth quarter true right yeah true so for three
04:40of the quarters doesn't look from a productive from a production standpoint that's probably what
04:45you would say yeah you can also second quarters well deshaun watson had a good second quarter against
04:49hennessey he gets that one too yeah so now we're up to two out of four delightful yeah if you
04:55were
04:56to tell this guy now i used our friends at sumer sports i shortened it to a minimum of 100
05:00dropbacks
05:00right okay epa she does a good job of uh measuring how many points are expected every single time
05:08something happens and pass something else like that and keeping our air clean let's not forget about
05:13that sean las is 22nd in uh epa per play so every time he touches the ball he's the 22nd
05:19best
05:19quarterback in football is there any chance you have fourth quarter stats there is there any chance
05:26no i'm looking at the whole game because we play 60 minutes jeff we don't play 15 oh you just
05:31got
05:33i don't know what i didn't dan just poo-pooed what deshaun has been doing so well i mean you
05:37could
05:38also play 60 minutes we don't play 15 so apparently all you need is a good 15 is if you're
05:43mediocre in
05:43the first 45 and do you want to hear more blasphemy do you want to say that to the defense
05:47which is
05:48last in the league and giving up points in the first quarter oh the defense has been the reason
05:53why you're able to play this game the way that you're playing it if it wasn't for that defense
05:56being as good as it is we would be having a different conversation about the quarterback and
06:00imagine how good they'd be if they didn't have to play the first quarter exactly yeah yeah you
06:03wish they didn't well imagine if we didn't have the defense if you can take away that and then
06:08take away the offense for the first three quarters steam would be a super bowl contender if they
06:12could piece together four quarters of decent football by both sides of the ball
06:16and special teams don't forget special teams who's actually been pretty darn good outside
06:19of the workers okay sorry sorry we got distracted by the shiny object yeah is there any chance that
06:25you're looking at this and remember what we all said about should or sanders when he was drafted
06:29he needs to sit for a year just needs to learn he needs to watch film he needs to do
06:33all those
06:33things is that happening right in front of our eyes is that maybe what's taking place here
06:39is that todd munkett is essentially red shirting should or sanders and is sitting there with him
06:43and having him develop in practice you can say the same thing about dylan gabriel if you want to
06:48that maybe both of them are being red shirted and they're sitting there during practice and they're
06:52learning everything they need to learn we've screamed from the mountaintops that the browns need to let a
06:56quarterback develop what if that's what's exactly what is happening here which is a possibility
07:03especially when you when you when you factor in a couple of other things the success of the team
07:09right now from just a wins and loss standpoint the success of the guy playing quarterback
07:15and even though with your numbers dan the most important stat for a quarterback is wins no it's
07:21not the most important stat for a quarterback is wins no it's not when it comes to your team
07:28no it's not what what is judging a quarterback by win loss record is horrendous it's a bad way to
07:33look at things because you're completely discounting what your defense could do what your special
07:37teams could do what your running back can do what your wide receivers could do what your offensive
07:39line could do okay so the quarterback isn't the most important position it's like pitching wins
07:44it's the same idea is it's like using win loss record yeah i think there are a lot of football
07:48people who would disagree with you there would be a lot of scientists who might not but i haven't seen
07:53a scientist go out there and get his ass kicked on the football field and win a game go ask
07:57sean
07:57mcveigh who's clearly a scientist and won himself a super bowl i'm i'm just saying oh my god i absolutely
08:01love where i'm sitting right now this is spectacular keep going you love it when mommy and daddy fight
08:06this is awesome yeah dude i'm getting ice cream either way yeah spoil the hell out of you you got
08:12two great christmases coming that's true throughout the history of throughout the history of the
08:22national football league if your team wins the quarterback gets a lot of credit if for no other
08:28reason than keeping it on the rails for instance the the great bears teams didn't win because of jim
08:33mcmahon so we put rex grossman and dan marino on the same pedestal i'm just saying you keep it on
08:39the rails right now deshaun watson has kept it on the rails um do i think he's a long-term
08:45guy no i
08:45don't i don't nor do i think dylan or shadour might be but right now with the way that the
08:522027 draft
08:53class is falling apart and with the way that free agency doesn't look like it's like teaming with
09:00great quarterbacks your quarterback for next year might be on this team in some way shape or form
09:05whether you want it to be or not
09:12i'm torn you guys i don't know what to pick mom or dad here i don't know just just stay
09:16in the middle
09:17trust me you're getting a bike with gears oh i know this is awesome i i'm just i i'm just
09:23i'm just i'm
09:27back at the browns going one i have a quarterback that got paid 230 million dollars whether he was
09:33hurt or you don't like anything about him he still got paid that so uh you would think the
09:39organization would always give him the first shot you've got another guy i again i'm not talking about
09:44the name on the back of the jersey you got a guy you drafted in the fifth round you got
09:47a guy you
09:47drafted the third round you got a guy you drafted in the sixth round and like i i look back
09:53at at
09:53training camp i'm going why did we do this why did we have a competition were we insane like like
10:01why would we do this at all why did we draft two quarterbacks last year like some of these decisions
10:05don't make any sense to me at all or it's long-term thought right maybe so again i'm doing a
10:14lot of
10:14speculating and a lot of guessing and we're we clearly have the board up with the red wire the red
10:19thread going all over the place on a bunch of pictures right what if that was truly okay on our
10:26board these were the two best guys at that moment okay let's let's just have some fun but so we're
10:31going back to the draft because you keep bringing this part of it up it doesn't let's tie this all
10:35okay okay okay because the mistake was already made so now you're just working off of the mistake
10:41okay so let's just say those are the two best guys in the draft again conspiracy theories okay okay
10:48do you buy the idea that maybe they're going to move on from deshaun watson they'll take the cap
10:53penalty that comes with it because they're not gonna be able to offer a whole bunch because
10:56there's gonna be a penalty no matter what yeah that maybe this is their way of getting a quarterback
11:01ready is there any chance you buy that thought so there what you're saying is i've got two darts
11:06and if i throw them at the dartboard there's a better chance that i'm gonna hit the bullseye with
11:10one of them is there any chance you would buy that theory no i no i i'm spitballing on that
11:19i
11:20you know to me to draft a quarterback in the third and draft a quarterback in the fifth and when
11:25they
11:25did it sounds to me like it was a fractured front office that someone wanted something and somebody
11:31else wanted something else and they just said well i don't know i let's just get both let's just buy
11:37them both and see which one is better when it's all said and done doesn't that make more sense
11:42it's not running back it's not wide receiver you didn't the fact that you didn't draft one
11:48in a position where you would think hey we have our guy you know what i mean that that's the
11:54catch
11:54to me it's just like wow you drafted one in the third and the fifth but if they're both sitting
11:59there and learning and they're both developing isn't this exactly what we've been screaming for
12:05for a long period of time um draft a rookie quarterback let him sit let him learn let
12:11him get used to the speed the idea i don't know the idea to me is more draft a rookie
12:17quarterback
12:17in the first round and let him sit and develop and then you know he's the guy because he has
12:21the
12:21pedigree i agree with that caveat to begin with which is why again this we're i just don't conspiracy
12:27theory hypothesis yeah questions however you want to put i also don't see i don't see how you get
12:32used to the speed in practice alone like i think you need to go up against other teams i and
12:38i
12:38understand this whole trying to you know give a backup or a drafted quarterback time to grow and
12:45develop but i just i don't i just i don't know i just didn't see it in this scenario i
12:51still don't
12:51see it in this scenario so 216-474-0092 i'm also i mean if you're a shador sanders fan do
12:57you want
12:58the browns to trade him i know he's you know there's been reports he's not on the trade block
13:03but i guarantee if somebody came up to the brown said oh we'll give you a second round pick
13:06he'd get you know he'd get traded in a minute or third well of course but nobody's going to do
13:12that
13:12no i know but i'm just saying okay you know but you know what you never know yes you do
13:16no you
13:17don't there are plenty of bad gms yes they're out there we've had them here before 216-474-0092 it's
13:29it's been
