00:00BJP mocks Rahul Gandhi over Satish Jarki Holi's SIR defense.
00:04BJP says all Congress leaders exposing Rahul Gandhi's claims.
00:08BJP also goes on to say that Rahul Gandhi opposing SIR is anti-democracy.
00:13And the DKS Minister Satish Jarki Holi, remember, has defended voter deletions in Karnataka.
00:19He's backed the SIR.
00:20And so there's a big showdown ahead of the Chief Election Commissioner's public impeachment by Congress Party.
00:27And just ahead of that, DKS Minister Satish Jarki Holi has backed the SIR in Karnataka, which is being opposed
00:36by Rahul Gandhi.
00:38Listen in.
01:09And my colleague Sagar Raj is now joining us on this story.
01:12Sagar, completely different views now emerging from within the Congress Party.
01:16On one hand, we have Rahul Gandhi who's been opposing SIR.
01:19He's been carrying out marches.
01:20He's been protesting against the SIR exercise.
01:23On the other hand, the Congress Minister Satish Jarki Holi in the DKS cabinet, he is backing the exercise in
01:31Karnataka, saying that this was perfectly done.
01:37Absolutely.
01:37He went on to say that because of the kind of protest and agitation that the Congress has carried out
01:42in the state of Karnataka,
01:43the SIR enumeration process was satisfactory, according to him.
01:47And he said that they don't have any issues when it comes to the SIR process in the state of
01:52Karnataka.
01:52And he has also categorically mentioned that they have problem with the SIR enumeration process, which has been done in
01:59West Bengal, Maharashtra and Bihar,
02:02where he says that there were manipulation which has been done and the voters, the genuine voters, have been deleted.
02:07And he claims that they were cautious in the state of Karnataka.
02:10And that is the reason the SIR process, which was close to one crore voters who have been deleted, it
02:17seemed to be fair for him.
02:20All right, Sergei, thank you for joining us with that context to the statement that has been made by Satish
02:26Jarki Holi.
02:26And now the attack also mounting by the BJP on the Congress Party on these differing views on SIR that
02:32are now emerging.
02:34So it's Congress versus Congress over the special intensive revision exercise.
02:38Karnataka, Minister Satish Jarki Holi, following the MLC poll results, has backed the SIR drive,
02:42saying that deceased, relocated and duplicate voters were correctly removed.
02:47He also said that the SIR was correctly conducted in Karnataka and should be carried out in the same way
02:53in other states.
02:54However, Rahul Gandhi has taken on the Election Commission over SIR.
02:57He has alleged that the Election Commission allowed vote rigging in Karnataka,
03:01claiming that SIR is destroying democracy and that genuine voters are being deleted.
03:06He has demanded that the SIR drive be halted and that Chief Election Commissioner Gyanesh Kumar be removed.
03:12The BJP has taken a jive at Rahul Gandhi over Jarki Holi's statement,
03:16saying that Congress leaders themselves are now exposing Rahul Gandhi over SIR.
03:49That's a very clear indication that this is a conspiracy theory that has its roots all over the place and
03:58it's centralized.
03:59And we will get to the bottom of it.
04:01So, I have information on what has happened in Vijaypur.
04:07More than 40-50 people who have declared dead and Form 7 were submitted.
04:12They have gone and complained to the DC over there, saying that we are not dead, we are alive.
04:18So, all these things have happened.
04:20So, I'm not sure what information Mr. Jarki Holi has,
04:23but I'm basing my statements on things that have happened in Kalburgi and elsewhere.
04:30Your cabinet colleague Mr. Satish Jarki Holi has said,
04:33SIR has done completely fine in Karnataka.
04:37It is reasonable for one crore deletion is what he says.
04:40While the Congress across India is saying SIR should be scrapped,
04:43while your cabinet colleague is saying Karnataka is fine.
04:46I really don't know in what contest he has told,
04:49but I cannot answer for what he has told.
04:52But definitely, I stand by Mr. Rawal Gandhiji, what he has been telling throughout India.
04:56And we have proved beyond the point.
04:59It was started by Mr. Rawal Gandhiji only a year back.
05:02Now, there is no doubt about it.
05:04SIR is a fraud.
05:05And because of that only, BJP is winning the elections.
05:07It is proved beyond the point, but they may not expect it.
05:10If a Satish Jarki Holi, and that includes Karnataka,
05:12So, if a Satish Jarki Holi currently comes out to say that,
05:17you know, our process, the SIR process that happened in Karnataka is absolutely fine,
05:22despite deletions being made a major issue about by the voters itself,
05:29that they were not correctly done.
05:31You have accepted it.
05:33But a Satish Jarki Holi conveniently says, no, our process was right.
05:36Do you think then he is batting a blind eye at the entirety of the allegations
05:42that his own party is now making?
05:46See, not really.
05:47You have to look at it from the point at which Jarki Holi is making the statement.
05:52The process is undertaken by the officers belonging to the state government,
05:57and they have rightly deleted so many, say, 90 lakh people from the electoral list.
06:01And if there are, like I repeat, if there are some stray cases where they have been wrongly deleted,
06:06you have the legal process on, and those people will be enrolled back.
06:10Yes, but he has to say there are no...
06:12Yes, I agree.
06:13And you are saying that yourself.
06:14Maybe.
06:15And he has to say, but there is nothing of the sort that's happened.
06:18When you're looking at 5-4 people, when you're looking at 5-4 applications,
06:21don't you think that you need to give some human error element of, say, 1.0.0.0.0.0
06:28.0?
06:29Everybody is so perfect, and you will never make a mistake?
06:33So, Mr. Prashant, my question here is, is it ignorance on his part,
06:37or is it a convenient batting of a blind eye to the entire situation?
06:43For Satish Jarki Holi.
06:45I don't think we should read too much into his statement.
06:47He has now agreed that SI has properly done, and it is for Rahul Gandhi and, say,
06:55the Karnataka CM here to look into an introspect to say,
06:57why they lost the elections here when they were held in ballot papers,
07:00instead of blaming the SR and the Election Commission.
