00:08It's so rare that you see stories of female sexuality told ever. There's a lot
00:14of fear against women, women's perspectives of perspective of sex and
00:19women's desire. And I am really proud to make a film that's a female sexual
00:25coming of age and about female desire. And I was really proud to put the onus in
00:32Chloe's hands when it came to shooting the sex scenes. And there is a real power
00:38in the execution of a scene that's in the hands of the performers who are doing it.
00:44Absolutely. And what was it like for you, Chloe, filming those scenes and being part of that firsthand?
00:50It was it was really empowering given that Desi didn't micromanage me. And I've been
00:57doing sex scenes in movies since I was 16, all of which have been under male
01:00directors. And this was the first time when she didn't have to write down every
01:06single moment she needed. She didn't tell me, oh, she needed this exact face or this
01:10moment or this, you know, orgasm or exactly what she needed. She just knew that Quinn
01:16and I, who played Coley, were competent of depicting it on screen. And she literally
01:21made herself and the entire crew scarce. And it was us two and our camera off and
01:26that was it.
01:27It's so rare to see female desire, let alone lesbian desire. And it was my job to
01:35make sure that it was authentic and it was true to the queer experiences. I know it
01:39and the women I've loved have known it. And I'm really proud to add this film to that
01:46conversation.
01:47Absolutely.
01:54For me, it was important that it took place in 93 just because they're so isolated. I
01:59think right now there are all these influences. I think even if people are incredibly isolated,
02:04they can see depictions of queer people living their lives successfully. So it changes the stakes
02:12and it changes the connectivity of what it is to be a queer person. So I think it could
02:20still exist. There are many horrific truths about being gay right now, especially in America.
02:25But at the same time, there's more hope. I'd like to think. What do you think?
02:31Yeah, I agree with that. I mean, I think what's nice about it being set in 93 is the isolation.
02:34The lack of cellular, you know, connectivity. You can really feel that.
02:39And all the shame around it. You know, Ellen wasn't out. There wasn't anybody who came forward
02:45and wanted to promote that lifestyle as an okay thing to be publicly. It really takes people
02:54having the balls to humiliate themselves and change that taboo. And that's what coming out is to
03:02most people. I mean, I think it's changing. But to stand out and say, I'm doing this thing that you
03:07think is so horrible. I don't think it's horrible. And then slowly, slowly, it grows like a
03:15sickness. God. But a good sickness. If you see it enough and are exposed to it, then you're like, oh,
03:22you can change your definition of right and wrong.
03:28Well, the dynamic of the film, it was kind of centered around her being found with a girl, as opposed
03:32to being like, hi, I'm gay. This is something I'm choosing to show you.
03:35Right. And that's quite an important dynamic in terms of the conversation you were kind of getting at in terms
03:41of it being a really brave move. But obviously quite a bit of that wasn't in Cameron's control, at least
03:48from the beginning.
03:48Oh, yeah. She was forced to come out. Yeah, no, I mean, the story of Cameron is not one of
03:54a person who chooses to out themselves and live life on the periphery. Yeah. It's a girl who's still figuring
04:01out her sexuality and is kind of thrust into this.
04:03Thrust into putting a label on it. Yeah. And villainized. Yeah. As are all the kids. They're just kids messing
04:12around. And they get put in this position to that demonizes their every sexual impulse.
04:18In this under. So, yeah, it's very different. It's not a choice and it's a very different situation.