00:00But the Falcons making the astute move to say we're not in the business of paying huge money to 30
00:07-year-old safeties when we don't even know when the playoffs are in our future in any way, shape, or
00:14form.
00:15It's the right move with great value in return.
00:18I think if they would have gotten a fourth-round pick for Jesse Bates, you kind of sit there and
00:22go, what's the deal?
00:24But you get a second and a fifth, that's big-time draft capital.
00:26If you got a fourth, you'd say this really hurts.
00:29And you'd be really angry that it came to that, but you wouldn't say it's dumb completely.
00:34Bo, are you surprised they got so much for Jesse Bates?
00:37Well, not considering who he got traded to.
00:40Jaguars are all in at this point.
00:42They needed to improve their defense and their secondary.
00:45They know that he's leaving at the end of the season.
00:48Yeah, no, I mean, it's like a baseball trade deadline.
00:51And good for Jesse Bates.
00:52Look, he's on a team that could very well be representing the AFC in the Super Bowl.
00:55100% the Jaguars could end up, not the NFC.
01:01I mean, just start with that.
01:02Loaded for Bears.
01:03Just start with that NFC North.
01:05I mean, any one of those teams.
01:07Bears probably the favorites, then the Packers, then Vikings and Lions.
01:11But that division's ridiculous.
01:13San Francisco taking no prisoners.
01:15Absolutely looks like Kyle Shanahan's got a team that is completely dialed in, right?
01:20I think the Rams are starting to turn a corner.
01:23They had a good, tough win yesterday against the Commanders.
01:25They're starting to get healthy.
01:26Yeah, Sean McVay is there.
01:28Keep in mind, the Seattle Seahawks are the defending Super Bowl champions.
01:31They're getting healthy as well.
01:32The NFC is just filled with quality organizations right now that have made great moves.
01:38And we need to stop wondering what the Falcons are.
01:42I mean, to me, the simplicity of yesterday, it wasn't dramatic.
01:47It wasn't gut-wrenching.
01:50It was very clear that we're not a good team.
01:53Good teams don't have three and six records.
01:56The two and two start, as I say, the double aberration.
02:00We weren't that bad playing with Cooper Rush.
02:04And we certainly were nowhere near as good as the Green Bay and New Orleans games.
02:08Those were aberrations.
02:09I mean, they didn't rush the passer.
02:11They let Penix sit back there.
02:13Bijan was fresh, went off.
02:15Those games, take those out.
02:16The last four games, the Bears blew you out, the Bucs blew you out, the Bengals blew you out.
02:24NFL, you don't get blown out that often.
02:26Those three games.
02:27Not competitive.
02:27You're 30 points down, essentially, in those games.
02:30I mean, the Bengals are a little bit closer.
02:31You lost to a backup quarterback in the Ravens.
02:34And then you got a scheduled gift by the 49ers.
02:37And also, their four turnovers.
02:39I mean, let's, you know, they came across the country.
02:41It was a short week.
02:42They're 6-0.
02:43Got four turnovers, won the turnover battle 4-0, and hung on for the victory.
02:47Yeah.
02:48So, we know what we are.
02:50And Falcon fans, 404-726-0929.
02:54404-726-0929.
02:57What does it mean to you to know?
02:59I don't care if we're in the division race.
03:01This is the signal coming from the franchise right now.
03:06You're a game out of first place in the NFC South.
03:09You haven't been to the playoffs since 2017.
03:11However, we are making the necessary decision, not a tough decision, the necessary decision
03:19to look towards the future.
03:21How do we get stronger?
03:23How do we get better to become a perennial playoff team rather than let's try to end
03:30this streak in what could be one of the worst divisions in the history of the NFL?
03:35Yeah, let's just look at it from a business perspective.
03:37And the way a CEO or board members or investors have to look at a company, regardless of what
03:44may be a spike in numbers or a down in numbers, or you're beating your competitor, and your
03:48competitors here would be New Orleans, Tampa, and Carolina.
03:51By the way, you're not beating them, but let's just say you were.
03:54What you want to look at is what is the long-term health of our company?
03:58Are we a healthy company?
03:59Do we have a great product?
04:01Do we have great leaders around our product?
04:03Do we have long-term success?
04:05Like, the Atlanta Falcons don't have a healthy product moving forward in terms of as a business.
04:13No, they do not.
04:14Because they don't have a lot of good players.
04:16They have a few decent players.
04:18They are going to go in with their big cap money and hopefully spend on the right people.
04:24But you can't be like, we're in a good place because we have cap money.
04:28Okay?
04:29You're in a good place if you have a quarterback and a lot of cap money and young stars.
04:34Right?
04:35So, we don't have a quarterback.
04:37I mean, we absolutely don't have a quarterback.
04:40No.
04:40We don't have really any players on defense left.
04:44So, we're going to flip that entire defense, right?
04:47A.J. Terrell is our best player, right?
04:50On defense.
04:50Yeah.
04:51Is there a better defensive player?
04:52So, if he's our best player, you saw what Jamar Chase did, who also said in the locker room,
04:56I was excited because they were on man coverage with A.J. Terrell.
04:59Yeah, he said Joe Burrow was giddy when he saw Terrell was lined up on me.
05:04You know, you don't know about your head coach.
05:06I mean, I have no problem with Stefanski or Ryan or Ian Cunningham.
05:10But if you look at the health of this company, are we in a good place?
05:16How could you say you're in a good place?
05:19And the number one thing is, it's almost like a company that had a decent quarter
05:24but knows the product that they're producing is not long-term.
05:28If you don't have a quarterback, I don't care.
05:31Like, you have no idea about the most important position in all of professional sports,
05:37which is your starting quarterback.
05:38Here's one thing that I would say is most frustrating to Falcons fans
05:42because obviously at 3-6 and if you follow the Falcons universe on social media,
05:48you're starting to see, and probably rightfully so at this point of the season,
05:52a lot of questions are on the coaching staff as well as the players because it's not good.
05:56We can all see that.
05:57When you look at what's happening with the New York Giants and John Harbaugh,
06:02and they get their fifth win of the season yesterday, and it's an ugly win.
06:05They couldn't run the ball.
06:06J.J. McCarthy got hurt.
06:08Jameis Winston comes in, holds the line.
06:10McCarthy back in.
06:11They're on the road against the Philadelphia Eagles in division,
06:14and they find a way to win, and they have got the NSC East really with a great position
06:20to move forward and win that division.
06:23John Harbaugh came into the New York Giants and immediately shifted the culture.
06:28He's made no bones about it.
06:30He's been very public about it as well, and it looks like that roster has responded in a big way.
06:37The Falcons now trading Jesse Bates, having a lot of cap space in the future,
06:43seemingly telling the league we're open for business through 4 p.m. tomorrow.
06:47I think all things are on the table heading into this offseason.
06:52This is the leadership saying things are about to change.
06:55It might sting for the next couple of months, but I would just have to think,
06:59Stake, it's going to look a lot different next year.
07:02Yeah, I think I'll go back to we'll talk to Matt Ryan in three years,
07:06and he'll say that first year was absolutely brutal.
07:08I mean, it was brutal.
07:09I had to watch us fill our building with other fans, embarrassingly.
07:13Embarrassingly, I watched a bunch of guys that didn't deserve to be out there or this were hanging.
07:18One-year guys, right?
07:20We knew we didn't have our quarterback.
07:22Like, we knew it, and we had to sit there and just keep our mouth shut
07:26and just say, let's just keep pushing them out there.
07:28You know, he'll talk about how tough this year is.
07:31Yeah, for sure.
07:31It's tough to watch for a professional who his career is built on wins and losses,
07:39and he's just only been in that seat for six months.
07:42He's not responsible for Desmond Ritter.
07:44He's not responsible for Michael Penix.
07:46He's not responsible for Marcus Mariota.
07:48He's not.
07:49So you may say eight years is a long time.
07:52I mean, there's every reason to believe it'll be 10 years.
07:56I mean, like, Matt Ryan is a guy, you know, winning now, if our company is not set up to
08:01succeed,
08:02what does stealing a playoff game mean?
08:05Yeah.
08:06It doesn't mean anything.
08:07It keeps you further away from your long-term goals.
08:09Exactly.
08:10Yes.
08:11It keeps you away from a higher draft pick.
08:13It keeps you away from maybe taking a quarterback.
08:16Like, just look at the landscape of the eight teams we just mentioned in the NFC.
08:22The eight just, like, all in the mix.
08:25404-726-0929.
08:28I was going to play Kevin Stefanski.
08:30What do you want to hear?
08:32Deadpan.
08:33We had too many penalties.
08:35Not up to our standard.
08:36Okay.
08:37You want me to play Michael Penix?
08:40I got to be better.
08:41Going to make better decisions.
08:44This one's tough.
08:46You want to play, I don't know, Charlie Warner?
08:51We moved the ball well, but we couldn't finish.
08:53What does all of it mean?
08:56You want to hear Kyle Pitts?
08:58Well, no, because Kyle Pitts is basically disappear.
09:01That's what he does.
09:02The most ridiculous entity is our tight end that we talk about.
09:07I mean, we're sitting here in the break talking about Brock Bowers and talking about...
09:11Trey McBride for the Cardinals, who's going to break, I think, the NFL record
09:14for most consecutive games with seven or more receptions.
09:18Do you know what...
09:20The Cardinals were getting whooped yesterday, and that dude was balling out.
09:25What about the kid on the two tight ends they have in Chicago?
09:30Oh, Colston Loveland, Cole Komet.
09:32Yeah, dude.
09:33All day.
09:33Ballers.
09:34All day.
09:35Give me the ball.
09:36I mean, that is a position with so many gamers.
09:40Brock Bowers is awesome.
09:43It's so fun to watch him go, man.
09:45But, I mean, that position is filled with ballers, right?
09:48Yes.
09:48And if you think that Kyle Pitts needs to be more involved in the coaching scheme...
09:55Look, I think you get on the phone and try to see what you can get for Kyle Pitts.
09:59Yeah, Matt Ryan's in that...
10:00Mike Johnson just said it, though, during the break.
10:02His contract after that extension, not really sure if it's tradable.
10:06Mike, Matt Ryan, knowing him as well as I think we do,
10:10is literally letting it be known.
10:14To Ian, to Arthur, to Kevin, everybody's available.
10:19Everybody.
10:20And I will never live through this.
10:22This is a joke.
10:23And get ready for all the Chiefs fans on Sunday.
10:25Oh, because you know why?
10:27Missouri is in Athens on Saturday.
10:30The Chiefs are in Atlanta on Sunday.
10:33It might be a big-time takeover inside Mercedes-Benz Stadium.
10:37They're going to double dip.
10:38Good.
