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In this episode, we discuss everything that went down on AEW's double taping of Dynamite and Collision including John Moxley and Marina Shafir in the main event against Jay White and Mercedes Mone. What happened on collision when Queen Aminata defends the TBS championship in a triple threat? Is Tony Khan building Will Osprey versus Kyle Fletcher correctly?

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00:01hey yo fro wrestling podcast listeners welcome to the show where we don't sing it we bring it help
00:06us out and click subscribe to show your support tonight we are recapping everything that went down
00:13aew's double taping of dynamite and collision but before we get to that here's some tunes
00:18and i'll be right back with you
00:36what what what
00:49just when they think they got the answers i change the question
01:02who am you to to doubt el fan because this guy's a serious professional
01:17and i am
01:25such a magic thong wearing fatty
01:33i said wwe stands for
01:41it's me austin
01:43i will never retire
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05:29any support you guys are giving me uh it really does make me feel like i have a purpose or
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05:34to be doing this reporting that i hope you guys find value in tonight we are getting into aew dynamite
05:41and collision they had a dual taping very cool show a lot of things going on a little surprise with
05:47a
05:47couple things and we'll get into that as we go but the show started off with a piece from blood
05:52and
05:52guts where will osprey and cope are having a conversation essentially the gist of this is is
05:58that will osprey is confronting cope because they had an agreement that they were not going to give up
06:03under any circumstances adam copeland responds basically cautioning osprey explaining to him
06:09that he lost nine years of his career by making stupid decisions and that osprey has a bad neck
06:15the young bucks have bad necks even steven borden was having a tough time moving his hands and fingers
06:21only a short time ago and basically implying he was doing this to protect them to look out for their
06:26futures and i love this i actually thought it was a really interesting angle um for this uh this segment
06:33um he wants them to remain old and be healthy and all that stuff and if that's not good enough
06:40for
06:40them then maybe this is not the place for him maybe he shouldn't be there i don't know why they're
06:45using
06:46that we already know next year is his last year he's going to be retiring so if we already know
06:50that
06:50i don't know why you're doing a thing where it's like oh i don't want to be here you're leaving
06:54anyways who cares so i don't know a little weird obviously this is going to eventually lead to an
06:59osprey versus cope match i'm not sure when and when it does get to that like i think a lot
07:05of people
07:05have wanted will osprey to have a very long run with this championship after winning it in such a
07:09beautiful monumental fashion i think there's also a segment of the audience that wants to see adam
07:14copeland win a championship one more time before he retires and i don't know what tony khan is going
07:19to do so we'll have to wait and see i mean think about it he let sting win the world
07:23tag team
07:23championship in his last match you never know with tony he does some very interesting booking
07:28sometime thought the whole segment was solid from there we get a kyle fletcher will osprey back and
07:33forth this promo solid stuff it started out good enough i mean it was kyle fletcher
07:39thanking basically will osprey for you know helping him throughout his career and then we end
07:43up with will osprey fighting back and it starts to get a little contentious and if i'm being
07:49completely honest and this is the one of the few knocks i'll have on the show this whole segment
07:54this whole promo back and forth osprey hits all like the lovey-dovey stuff how proud he is of kyle
07:59fletcher um and and basically keeps going to the love thing you know he knows he still loves him and
08:04he
08:04loves him and i don't need all of that we're grown ass men okay i don't need you telling me
08:10how much
08:11you love each other you know i they reference they put the video up of his walkout at at all
08:16in
08:17and you see the part where mark davis and kyle fletcher are basically there to like give him a
08:23send-off and he mentions how he knows they really wanted to be at ringside and it's they're still
08:27connected they're still friendly that way and fletcher of course denies all this and it's just it's
08:32constant back and forth he does bring up that he's the one who you know dropped osprey on his
08:36head repeatedly and broke his neck which was an interesting angle but then osprey fires back with
08:40you know i had a broken neck and i still smoked you twice bruv and it was a great line
08:46i really
08:47enjoyed that i thought it was really to the point things do get contentious at the very end uh fletcher
08:52ends up slapping osprey osprey walks away the match is going to be amazing he does remind him that
08:57in five of their six meetings osprey has walked out the victor i actually suspect he'll walk out
09:02this time the victor as well because i don't think they're going to put it on fletcher yet i really
09:06don't at some point they're going to have to but it's not right here um the match should be solid
09:11this is a decent build i did feel like this segment went on too long um and and just too
09:18much of the
09:18lovey-dovey stuff i don't again i don't need all that stuff these are some of the best world-class
09:23athletes there are i think they would have been better served to talk up that aspect of each of their
09:29game you know i'm going to bring this and you're going to bring that and you're going to get the
09:33best version of this and all that kind of stuff i think that would have been better for the build
09:38than this lovey-dovey love hate stuff i just it didn't feel real it didn't feel organic and let's
09:44be honest if you have not yet please go back and watch the all-in entrance but anybody who watched
09:49that live you know as well as i do that entire walkout including the kyle fletcher mark davis
09:55moment was absolute cinematic beauty and it was super emotional super heartfelt at one point
10:02tonight's promo kyle fletcher talks about how when that was going on he felt nothing in it at some
10:06point like he's talking about osprey's wife is going to leave him his kid's going to give up on
10:10all it's it was just it was too much it was a little hokey for me um but i am
10:15still looking forward
10:15to seeing the match it should be pretty solid from there brodito taking on the new level and the match
10:20was great as every match the new level of done since they've arrived in aew has been it does go
10:26to a double count out i'd love to have seen a more definitive win for one team or the other
10:30and
10:30frankly i actually think it might behoove to have had brodito win this um but that's not what they
10:37obviously chose to do this keeps both teams i guess relatively strong heading into their their next
10:42match coming for texas def um at the end there's a brawl after the the the the double count out
10:49and we
10:49end up seeing kofi put brody king through a table with a with it when he goes to hit a
10:54hot across
10:55body this was good i mean it's not on the level of the kind of violence that hangman and swerve
11:02have
11:02leading into this match i think that's a little bit of the craziness we kind of need from these four
11:08because they're all going to be out there and we already know how nuts hangman and swerve can be from
11:13you know cutting getting both people getting cut and bleeding into one of their mouth to spit it in the
11:19other ones like it's it's graphic these four i don't get the same vibe from yet and i think we
11:26kind of need that if we're going to expect this match to be on the same level as the swerve
11:30strickland
11:30hangman page match that was insane like that so not sure not sure how to feel about it yet but
11:36i wasn't
11:36bad nothing about it was bad um so i mean that's solid we get orange cassidy versus david finley and
11:44the
11:44match is funny at the beginning like orange cassidy hiding the shillelagh under the edge of the ring
11:49rope or the ring apron cover and whatnot eventually dave finley does get a hold of the shillelagh and
11:55when the referee is distracted he uses it to get the win over orange cassidy uh the conglomeration
12:00come out to try to make sure like the the the the cut doesn't interfere too much and even despite
12:07all
12:07that clark connor still gets a spear on orange cassidy as he's leaving the ring so hey solid stuff it
12:13furthers that whole conglomeration cut thing um i don't like orange cassidy taking a loss
12:20there was a time when he was facing jericho in the mimosa matches and stuff like that where
12:26orange cassidy if you would have asked me i would have thought he'd have been aew world champion by
12:31now instead now he just feels like an upper mid card guy who occasionally gets a win more often than
12:36not
12:36he doesn't and i don't like that for him i think he's earned the right especially with the following
12:40he's had throughout his aew career to be put in better more advantageous roles and to be very
12:46successful i mean i look i don't i don't know if you could turn it around and make him world
12:50champion
12:50anytime soon maybe you can maybe you can't i do think he deserves that run at least once i think
12:56that that's exactly what he was being groomed for and at some point tony khan changed course and went
13:01a different direction i don't love that i actually really like orange cassidy he's very unique
13:04everything about him is very very special so i don't know i i love the match the finish was you
13:12know almost like repetitive there's always something with this freaking so shillelagh it's kind of stupid
13:16but this is what it is it was a tv match it was worthwhile andrade is having a conversation backstage
13:23he's upset about losing the national title but he is focused on winning the aew world championship as
13:28the first latino to do so and i don't expect him to do it i certainly not if it's anytime
13:35soon he gets
13:36that championship opportunity but we don't know we don't know when he's going to get that opportunity
13:40they always seem to find a way to like delay andrade's pusher opportunity um if it takes long
13:47enough then every month that goes by that andrade doesn't get his championship opportunity the likelihood
13:53of him winning the championship seems to increase in my mind i could be wrong but in my mind so
13:58maybe it's a good thing to push this down the pike a little bit because maybe then he'll actually get
14:02the title i don't know we'll have to wait and see from there persephone versus gypsy mac
14:08a glorified squash match persephone i've said it a thousand times one of the best women's wrestlers in
14:13the entire world aew is lucky to have her she is a incredibly incredibly talented performer
14:19performer and i love everything about what she does um so obviously she was going to win this no
14:25matter what i think she was just out there to have some some showing for later on in the show
14:29when she's going to be appear later and and just keep refreshing people's mind now that she lost the
14:33tbs championship she's not in the same spot that she was and i guess this keeps her relevant from
14:39there we get match number five the ftr versus motor city machine guns best of five series and it
14:45finally wraps up the motor city machine guns win the best of five series they defeat ftr and i actually
14:52like the fact that after it's over there was a handshake between both teams i thought that was
14:55really nice to see that sportsmanship um i don't know where ftr goes from here maybe they're going
15:00to take some time off they've done that before um maybe they move into some other role maybe you put
15:05them on ring of honor give them those ring of honor world tag team championships for a little while i
15:08wouldn't be opposed to that i really wouldn't and not to mention the ring of honor tag team champions
15:11who by the way are in action later on collision would be a really great match to see them go
15:16against so that's kind of where my head would be at with them they've done everything they could
15:19possibly do in aew so give them a run in ring of honor with those tag titles give them something
15:24different to put on the resume i would i think that would be very smart booking uh then we get
15:29a
15:29match for the aew national championship tomaso ciampa defending against speedball mike bailey solid match
15:35the nc's mike bailey's on his knees and tomaso ciampa hits his running knee puts him out retains his
15:41championship but what's important is after the match where ilia dragunov comes to the ring
15:46he gets in tomaso ciampa's face points to the jumbo screen where the graphic comes up that at
15:53full gear tomaso ciampa will defend the aew national championship against ilia dragunov and this is going
16:00to be awesome the only thing that's weird for me is roll back the clock one year almost exactly
16:05and on smackdown uh ilia dragunov at that time the wwe united states champion was defending against
16:12tommaso ciampa we're rehashing old stuff i don't need that for dragunov's first feud in aew they're
16:19kind of disappointing if you think about it i want to see him get out there with people you've never
16:23seen him work with i want to see what they can do in the ring what's the chemistry look like
16:26you know we already know ilia can can go with just about anybody now i want to see him go
16:31with
16:31people i've never seen before not rehashing old wwe feuds so there's a little piece of me i thought
16:36that could have been looked better the main event scenes john moxley and marina shafir battle
16:41against jay white mercedes monet is tag mixed tag team match very good stuff top to bottom at one
16:47point we have um marina shafir in the ring with jay white and she is jacking him up and he's
16:52trying
16:53to like hold her off and she really goes at him i love this she's believable to be able to
16:57give him
16:57a run and then she gets it broken up because mercedes monet comes in and hits a backstabber on her
17:02this was a great match back and forth for the most part and the very end of the match we
17:06see
17:06mercedes monet is going to submit um so solid show top to bottom a few little bobbles here and
17:14there that i think could have been better or booked differently but all in all solid show if i'm again
17:19rating on a scale one to five stars i would say maybe a three three and a quarter um then
17:25they
17:25start their collision taping we get the young bucks and jack perry basically the elite and jack
17:31perry has had nothing to do with them for a year pretty much and all of a sudden he's back
17:35to being in
17:36the elite um them taking on the don callis family brian cage el clon kevin knight and solid match
17:43you know the the elite win i actually was kind of surprised at that the don don callis family has
17:48been so unstoppable lately i thought they were going to use jack perry as like the scapegoat so
17:53they get a win for the don callis family and frankly i hate seeing brian cage lose anything
17:59i'm a huge brian cage fan people who tune in to show know that um i feel like the guy
18:03just never
18:03gets a fair shake but it was still a good match it's a good tv match we'll go that we'll
18:08say go
18:08that far then we get word low versus nick camarado where it's a squash match camarado had no chance
18:16um then the don callis family start to take out aaron solo griff garrison camarado himself
18:22and it's just a full-on beat down just i guess designed to keep the momentum with don callis family
18:28in terms of gaining heat at the problem i'm worried about is i don't want people to get to where
18:33it's like
18:33go away heat because i really like word low i i really love seeing brian cage people like that
18:39i don't want to see the don callis family go away right now i want to see their talents as
18:43frequently
18:43as i can and uh i don't know it's just this was okay nothing wrong with it is what it
18:50is from there
18:51we get the ring of honor world tag team championship match between el sky made up of mystico and uh
18:59uh mascara dorada defending those championships against the swirl which is blake christensen and
19:04lee johnson you already know just by telling you the names that there's no way el sky was losing
19:10and this feeds into what i was saying earlier i think that that's something ftr would match up really
19:15well with mystico and mascara and mascara dorada i think it'd be a great match high flying and power
19:22all that stuff that's the direction i'd put ftr in go for those ring of honor tag team championships
19:27i think that you cannot go wrong with that both teams care so much about tag team wrestling that
19:33would be awesome uh we'll see if tony khan pulls the trigger on doing that or not i don't necessarily
19:37think he's going to listen to me so probably not and then in our collision main event queen amanada
19:43defending the tbs championship against sky blue and high end in a three-way dance or triple threat
19:48match whatever you want to call it and in the end queen amanada is going to pick up the win
19:52i think
19:53anybody looking at this on paper knows that but she just got the belt so she's not losing it that
19:57fast and certainly not the sky blue are high in right now they're not uh high enough on the totem
20:03pole to make that happen however afterwards brit baker is out and she does distract queen amanada which
20:08allows persephone to attack and this is perfect it's perfect because it furthers that feud it's obvious
20:16that persephone is coming for that championship maya world comes out and she defends um um queen
20:24amanada and that's fine i have no problem with any of that but i actually think collision was a better
20:29book show than dynamite and that's i'm not trying to dump on dynamite i just think it was a better
20:34more
20:35well-conceived show we have more matches added for full gear that's going to be awesome so i don't know
20:40you tell me though what did you think of aw's dynamite and collision taping tonight put it down in the
20:45comments below what do you think the final card give me some ideas about the final card for full
20:50gear what matches do you think are still going to be added to the show who should be added who
20:55shouldn't be added should we see an appearance by mjf at the show in some way sure before he's been
20:59gone since all in don't know um there's a lot that you could do here and they really need to
21:05capitalize on every show's opportunity because next year aew needs to be in a prime position to put
21:11on a rival show to wrestlemania if indeed wrestlemania is still in in uh saudi arabia and
21:18when you keep putting on shows like this you're going to build a great a great level of momentum
21:23heading into that season and you've got a lot of opportunity to really maximize the profitability
21:28of your company and to show the whole world that you can go toe-to-toe with wwe against wrestlemania
21:33i can't wait to see that and this show and shows like this are very supportive of that being the
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