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Shan, RJ, and Bobby went Inside the Star to discuss Joey Porter Jr. 's lingering foot injury and game availability. They broke down whether his contract plays a role, Jaishawn Barham getting edge snaps, Overshown's penalty reaction, and more.

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00:00So we've got continued injury issues for Joey Porter Jr.
00:03He was not a participant in practice yesterday.
00:06It does sound like when you talk to some people that they're a little more optimistic he could go this
00:12week.
00:14But, man, when you are DNP Wednesday and then especially Thursday, that's usually a bad sign for your availability.
00:20Because Thursday is the let's ramp you up, let's get your body ready, let's, you know, get everything ready for
00:26the game plan.
00:27So for him to be out on that one when Friday is a lighter practice, that's a little concerning to
00:31me.
00:31But they also may just feel like he's played on a short week before with a trade and not having
00:36to need a whole lot of prep time.
00:37So let's just make sure he gets rested and is ready to go.
00:40Here's Joey on the injury.
00:42All of the above, the whole foot jacked up.
00:44You know, I was playing on it for a while and it just kept getting worse, you know, to where
00:49I had to shut it down.
00:50So I feel like all the guys are, you know, wanting me to get back.
00:55You know, they know what I can do when I'm out there on the field.
00:57I bring a presence out there that is a game-changing type presence.
01:00So I'm just trying to get back out there as fast as possible.
01:02What can't you do, what do you need to do before you feel comfortable getting back out there?
01:06Just to be able to run, you know, be able to cut.
01:08You know, I play a position where I got to guard the most athletic people on the field.
01:12So if I can't run, skip or jump, then I'm no use out there.
01:15How did you initially hurt it?
01:18Tweaked it a Houston game and I just kept playing on it.
01:21And, you know, my 70% looks good, you know.
01:24That's what I think.
01:25So it just got worse as I kept playing on it.
01:29So my concern is that he said he might need to skip in a game.
01:33No.
01:35I was wondering where that was going from.
01:37Okay.
01:38So let's just take all the nefarious stuff out.
01:44Is he a...
01:45Which he shot down.
01:46He was asked yesterday.
01:48And Jerry shot it down.
01:50Is he a player who can't play injured, like can't play banged up?
01:55Or is this because he's in a contract year and it's not worth the risk?
02:00I mean, if he's really like, if there's a lot of pain in the ankle,
02:05that's a hard position to play through that injury.
02:08And so if it's...
02:09But, I mean, that's the thing that's surprising is that he could pop in for 40% of the plays
02:14and then have to come off.
02:15It's like, I would think if your ankle had deteriorated to that point,
02:19you wouldn't be able to go out there much at all.
02:21But, I mean, ankles, we know they can be finicky things that will linger around a little bit.
02:26And so I think that when you see the fact that he plays pretty much
02:32or had played 100% of the snaps in Pittsburgh the whole time he was there,
02:36he probably can play through being banged up.
02:39So that either means contract situation, which he shot down,
02:42or it's a legitimate injury that's really, really bugging him.
02:46Any chance this can bring the price down a little bit, like we talked about with Pickens?
02:54The Cowboys are intentionally holding him out to keep his price down, keep the money down?
02:58I don't think so, because I think...
03:01Is it possible slightly with either one?
03:06That they're holding him, that them both out?
03:09No, that you could get the deal.
03:11No, I don't think so.
03:12And also, honestly...
03:14I mean, if Pickens' market absolutely plummets with the rest of the league
03:17and nobody is wanting to pay him $32, then yeah,
03:20it would have to move them a little bit at that point.
03:22But, I mean, I think you see both representatives there
03:26are not going to just allow their guy to take a discount deal.
03:29And that creates other issues.
03:31Like they could be now kind of a hacked-off type player, not in a good way.
03:37You know, sometimes you want a pissed-off player.
03:38Or they could just be angry and upset about the contract they got.
03:43So, yeah, it could go either way.
03:45Well, they would agree to it.
03:46They would agree to it, yeah.
03:47I'm wondering if the rest of the market in the league is like,
03:49we're not going to pay you top of market when you played four games.
03:53Exactly.
03:54Yeah, and there was already...
03:55We read a lot about there was hesitancy across the entire league
03:58to view Joey Porter as like one of the top corners.
04:01That people didn't want to give him $30 million.
04:04So, I mean, there was league-wide hesitancy about both those guys.
04:08I would imagine that what the Cowboys have seen so far
04:11gives them confidence to say, well, that's somebody we would pay that amount to.
04:15It's just a matter of how much do they have confidence in,
04:19all right, are you banged up for this little period here?
04:21Or are you Omari Cooper and we're not going to be sure exactly how many games
04:24or how many snaps you're going to be able to play
04:26and how available you're going to be down the stretch.
04:28Todd Archer tweets,
04:29It's Ja'Sean Barham.
04:30Remember him?
04:31Played just three snaps last week against Indy.
04:34He could see more this week and not at middle linebacker.
04:37With Ezra Raku suffering an ankle injury,
04:39Barham is getting work on the edge.
04:42Nick Harris says,
04:43a lot of time spent today working outside zone responsibilities
04:46for the defensive backs.
04:48Christian McCaffrey is obviously looming.
04:51So, Barham, maybe putting him in a little different spot.
04:55Like a role, huh?
04:57Well, and I mean, he did it.
04:58He rushed at Michigan his last year.
05:00That's what he was.
05:00He was an edge rusher.
05:01And so, he's had that sort of ability before.
05:05The biggest issue I had with him as an edge rusher,
05:07and it's like I'm sure you guys can see it now with him playing linebacker.
05:11His body type does not look like.
05:13He's stiff.
05:14Yeah, he's stiff and he's like bulky.
05:16Yeah.
05:17And it's, now maybe they just want to view him as kind of an edge setter.
05:20They want him to like kind of spell some Rashawn Gary looks
05:22or something like that.
05:23But man, as just a flat edge rusher,
05:24I was not a big fan of him coming out.
05:27I really hate to do this.
05:29Oh, what happened?
05:30I really do.
05:31Did you watch Overshown yesterday?
05:34No.
05:35I saw what you said about it.
05:37Peyton is probably the only one then that can identify
05:39because I had him go through the audio.
05:42Is it a visual?
05:43It's a visual.
05:44I'm going to look it up.
05:44And I hate to do it because he seems like a great kid,
05:50very full of life and optimistic and happy.
05:54But the way DeMarvion Overshown was laughing and kind of joking
05:59while explaining the penalty.
06:01Man, I got to be old man on the porch with this.
06:05It's a microcosm to me of how scared and how bad he's really taking this.
06:12This is Overshown on why he ran out on the field.
06:15That's what it was.
06:16It was all excitement.
06:17You know, at the end of the day, I talked to Shadi about it.
06:20You know, I apologized about it.
06:21It was definitely in the moment.
06:23But, you know, earlier I had said that, you know, as a defense,
06:26we're going to start celebrating more, getting takeaways.
06:28And I was just caught in the moment.
06:29So, you can laugh at it now because we won the game.
06:32But in the moment, like fourth quarter, tied ball game or close ball game,
06:37you know, you don't want a 15-yard penalty from a guy,
06:40especially if it's not even playing.
06:41So, that's a lesson learned.
06:43Hey, Gator.
06:44That Gator right there.
06:45Gator don't take no ****.
06:48But, you know, it's just a lesson learned.
06:50It's not going to change how passionate I am about my teammates
06:54when they make plays.
06:55In the future, I'll have my helmet and my uniform on,
06:59so it won't be a flag.
07:00But it's a lesson learned.
07:01And, again, it's a visual thing.
07:04He just quoted Will Ferrell and the other guys.
07:07Gator don't take no ****.
07:10Oh, that's not some random person name.
07:13No, that's a line from the other guys.
07:15Will Ferrell plays a cop, and we find out later in the movie,
07:18oh, I was a pimp in college by the name Gator.
07:21Gator right there.
07:21Helps my point even more.
07:23Helps my point even more.
07:25And then DeMarvion was asked,
07:27when did you realize you made this dumb of a mistake?
07:31Honestly, I really didn't know the rule until, like, I heard D.
07:35Stop.
07:37Didn't know you can't go on the field?
07:39In street clothes?
07:40In the middle of the field.
07:41With a winter hat on?
07:43I did not know.
07:45With a little ball, little dangly ball.
07:46It wasn't a brain fart.
07:48He didn't know.
07:50Yeah.
07:51Well, to be fair, he hasn't been on the field in, like, a couple years.
07:53That is scary.
07:55But just the, did you watch any of them reacting?
07:59Yeah.
07:59Any of them talking?
08:00It's just, and again, I don't want to suck the joy out of the guy,
08:03but it's not serious.
08:06And it doesn't give me any hope moving forward that there's some, you know,
08:12cursing Schottenheimer message sent to everyone.
08:15We can't be stupid like this.
08:17How?
08:18And I know that's going to be an old man take on the porch.
08:21How concerned are you?
08:23He was beaming throughout this.
08:24He was, he was gleeful.
08:25I was going to say, how concerned are you that you're experiencing the evolution that
08:30you probably did with Jalen Smith?
08:34Very concerned.
08:35Because it checks a lot of the same boxes.
08:37Yeah.
08:39And it's, again, we brought it up earlier this week, but it's like, why wasn't, why hasn't
08:45he been a captain?
08:45Why isn't he on their leadership council?
08:47There's a bunch of players on there and he's not on there.
08:49Only difference is Overshown will not get a second contract like Jalen got gifted.
08:53I was like, he was wearing his own branded hat for that whole interview.
08:57He wasn't wearing a shirt, but he was wearing that hat.
08:58This is, you know, this is like the post he made after the, where he said, my bad.
09:03It wasn't a, hey, I'm sorry.
09:05It was a, oh, my bad.
09:06Didn't know he couldn't have fun on the field.
09:08Right.
09:08You know, that's what it was.
09:09It was never a, like, I'm apologetic here.
09:12I did something wrong.
09:13Recognize it.
09:14It wasn't like that.
09:15And that's, I mean, that's, that kind of just shows you who, it shows the world who you
09:19are.
09:20Let's play the whole clip, Peyton.
09:21Honestly, I really didn't know the rule until like I heard D yelling, like, matter of fact,
09:26like D winter, I was yelling on the field.
09:28I was running on the field and he was like, Demo, you can't be out here.
09:31And that's when I looked back and I had already seen the red.
09:34He pointed at me.
09:35He pointed at me.
09:35So at that point, it was like, man, I'm just going to take, take the butt chewing that
09:42I'm going to get.
09:43But like, I learned, like, it won't happen again.
09:45And I apologize to the team because that definitely could have hurt us.
09:49But like I said, it won't happen again.
09:52Yeah.
09:52So I was.
09:53They're the same age.
09:54They've been in the league the same amount of time, by the way.
09:56D winners and Demarvian Overshawn.
09:57So if D winners knows that, Demarvian Overshawn should know that.
10:01And then Choppy was talking about the outfit.
10:03You know, was it a stocking cap, the blue sweatpants?
10:06People thought it was George Pickens.
10:07Here's Demarvian on that.
10:09Blue sweatpants, blue stocking cap.
10:11You know, I dang it went into the blue stocking cap business with the Asian old ranch.
10:15But I was like, I'm going to let this die down because a lot of people in the fan base
10:19is not taking it as a joke, which is not.
10:21But like, it's not a stocking cap.
10:23It wasn't a blue stocking cap.
10:25We call it a toboggan where I'm from.
10:27But I don't know about the blue stocking cap market.
10:31I don't know if it went up after that game.
10:33But I was pretty viral for it.
10:35Did you apologize right after the game or on Monday?
10:37No, I apologize right after the game.
10:39I mean, right in the moment, like I apologize.
10:41When Cable came and got me on the sideline, it was just one of those, like, I didn't know
10:46until I knew.
10:47So, you know, in the moment celebrating, like I said, it can't happen again.
10:52It won't happen again.
10:53And, you know, I'm going to stay passionate about my teammates making plays.
10:57He's got a clear eye view, man.
10:58He's getting a long-term deal.
11:00And there's the –
11:01He's getting a long-term deal.
11:02So, Jerry just heard somebody recognize the market and sales and how – you know, what
11:08makes the needle move.
11:10His mind went to how to market it.
11:12He's getting a long-term deal.
11:13His mind went on how to make sales off it.
11:15It's unserious.
11:16It is just unserious.
11:18It's serious about making money.
11:19Brian Schottenheimer – well, not –
11:21Not a contract.
11:22Not of a second contract.
11:23Not a contract.

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