00:00But let's talk about the San Francisco 49ers a little bit.
00:03This is a –
00:04And Jarrett as well, TCU diehard.
00:07He's like, come on.
00:09Come on, Sonny Dykes, get better.
00:10There you go.
00:11And James.
00:12He may not be able to get much better.
00:14It may just need to be TCU getting better by getting a new coach potentially.
00:18We'll have to see.
00:20So this is – it's tough watching San Francisco because when you see them,
00:26you do see they're very talented.
00:29They're very banged up.
00:31They are really depleted.
00:33Like some of the stuff that I went back – I popped on the Rams game at one point
00:37because I try to watch generally the two most recent games
00:40and then maybe one other game I'm curious about on their schedule.
00:43Like why did that game play close?
00:44What happened there?
00:46So I popped on the two most recent games and I went back
00:50and I looked at the Rams stuff a little bit
00:52and their personnel just changes every week who they have.
00:56Like there's just somebody missing.
00:58Like I said yesterday, when eventually Keenan Allen gets out there
01:02and takes a snap, that'll be the 11th receiver that's taken a snap for them this year.
01:06That is a ridiculous number to have on a winning football team.
01:08We always seem to alternate between McVay and Shanahan.
01:13And now I think Shanahan's back on top.
01:15And I heard Aikman say, I think yesterday,
01:18if he went into the front office, hypothetical, blah, blah, blah.
01:21First call is a Sam friend to ask how much it takes to pry away Kyle.
01:26Would that be a coach you would trade draft picks for, Choppy?
01:30No, I'm not trading draft picks.
01:33Yes, for me.
01:34I think I would.
01:35A first rounder?
01:37No, I'm not trading a first.
01:38I wouldn't trade a first rounder for anybody.
01:43But he's very, very good.
01:45There's no doubt.
01:46I still think I would take McVay.
01:48I don't have a strong reasoning why.
01:51Although I think.
01:52I thought you hated McVay.
01:53He's a snake.
01:54It's Wolchuk.
01:55He's a snake.
01:56It's Wolchuk and Choppy, again,
01:57having the same interests and perspective on things.
02:00As he's the same.
02:02He is adamant that Sean McVay is a better coach than Kyle Shanahan.
02:07Now, watching them offensively, it's a lot of what Shadi just talked about there.
02:11The word you're going to hear a ton this week,
02:13and that has already been spoken a lot this week, is horizontal.
02:17Like, they are very much a horizontal football team.
02:20They're not trying to beat you vertically down the field.
02:22They're, as the classic West Coast used to do,
02:24they want to, you know, kind of basically use the width of the field
02:27more than they want to push the ball down the field.
02:29Now, the way that they do it is they widen things out,
02:33and a lot of teams try to run outside.
02:35Detroit, I feel like, is a big – I haven't watched them this year, like, in depth,
02:38but I feel like they're one of these teams that, when I watch them,
02:41they're a big outside team that tries to get to the perimeter
02:43and run the ball that way.
02:45San Francisco wants to set you up and then get you to over-pursue,
02:49and then they want to cut it back,
02:50and they want to just get you completely off balance
02:52and have you fallen over yourself.
02:54And they're successful at it.
02:55And this is a Dallas team that we know for years has struggled with over-pursue.
03:00They are super aggressive, and they – and you want that –
03:04it feels like every defensive coordinator we've had here in Dallas
03:07has talked about, man, we want to fly to the ball.
03:08We want to fly to the ball.
03:09Like, that's a big emphasis for them, and that's good to have.
03:12But there's also a thing about playing under control that you need to have.
03:16And when you're flying to the ball, you expose cutback lanes,
03:19and you expose those opportunities to get them in over-pursuit
03:22and really gash them for runs.
03:24That's what San Francisco likes to do,
03:25and they do it really, really well against everybody.
03:27So, Dallas, second-level linebackers,
03:30they're going to have to be on their game playing discipline.
03:33I loved hearing Shadi talk about Curtis Robinson.
03:36Did you think that was interesting that Curtis Robinson,
03:40who – I don't think he's even on the active roster right now.
03:42I think he's practice squad.
03:44But D. Winters, who just came from San Francisco,
03:46that it's been Curtis Robinson, not D. Winters,
03:48who's gotten them prepared for what the offense does
03:51and that he's the one who has kind of outlined for them,
03:54hey, this is what – so, I mean, that's fascinating to me
03:57because you remember they tried the D. Winters experiment at the Green Dot
04:00and then that never went that direction.
04:03So, Curtis Robinson, Shadi talked about it earlier
04:05when we talked to him last hour that he has been a big resource for them
04:09in terms of preparing them for how San Francisco likes to do things offensively.
04:13Brock Purdy, it may not matter what San Francisco does in the run game,
04:18how you stop them.
04:19This will obviously be Dallas' biggest litmus test of the year
04:22against the run as a defense.
04:24Previous to this was probably Baltimore,
04:26which the numbers raw at the end didn't look good,
04:30but it was – you were basically holding them more consistently
04:33than you have really at any other point this season.
04:36They overperformed where they were expected to with the Ravens game.
04:40So, even if they're able to do that against the 49ers this week,
04:43Purdy's so damn in rhythm right now.
04:45Like, it is so impressive to watch him just play with perfect timing,
04:52get the ball out.
04:53Like, I mean, it is so precise in the way that he plays.
04:56He's such a technician and just a surgeon with the football.
05:00And it's one of those things where it's like it doesn't –
05:02that's how you survive having 11 receivers on the field
05:05is somebody playing like Purdy does.
05:06What is his kryptonite?
05:09Like, some quarterbacks, you rush them.
05:11They can't handle pressure.
05:14Others are, you know, weather.
05:16What is his kryptonite?
05:18I mean, I think it's basically you have to – we've talked about this before
05:22that Christian Parker has said – you know, we've referenced the Parker quote of
05:26you can slow a quarterback down or you attack a quarterback two different ways,
05:30either speed up his clock or mess with his eyes.
05:33Like, that's the way that you can do things.
05:35And so with him, it's you've got to mess with his eyes, his timing, his –
05:41because he is such a great rhythm passer, then the key is you've got to disrupt the rhythm.
05:45You've got to do whatever you can to get it.
05:47So whether that's jamming receivers, throwing some things off,
05:50bringing different blitzes and trying to speed them up a little bit,
05:53that's generally the way to do it.
05:54But he's so good, and it's not very easy to get him out of that.
05:57But it's – I know we have asked before, like, is it Shanahan or is it Purdy?
06:02Like, which one is which?
06:03It really feels like they both deserve a ton of credit,
06:07and they're both maximizing what each other does.
06:10I mean, listen to what our Sam Frank guy said yesterday.
06:13He called him the greatest anticipatory thrower he's covered.
06:16And, yeah, and he covered – we mentioned it, he covered Steve Young,
06:19who, like, that was one of Steve Young's things.
06:21And so to be able to say that speaks to just the level that Brock brings up.
06:27But he's been fantastic this year.
06:28He's terrifying.
06:29I don't think they're going to be able to slow him down.
06:32He's going to have a really, really good game.
06:34And so if Dallas is able to stop the run, if they get them out of that,
06:37then they'll have success with that.
06:39This is a San Francisco team that in the past brings four.
06:43They don't blitz a ton, but they're still able to get home.
06:45They're, you know, attack front, get up there, twist stunts, do different things.
06:49They're not getting home very frequently as a pass rush right now.
06:54Bosa's still a good player.
06:55Bosa's played well out there, which I thought was interesting hearing Matt
06:59Mayoko yesterday when it's like, hey, how's Osa been?
07:02He's like, it was hard for him.
07:04It's like, wow.
07:05He was –
07:07Luka Mav affected.
07:09When they would go up against San Francisco, I remember we had talked to Osa
07:13in the locker room, I think in 24 before they went out there,
07:16and he had talked about there was a very clear dislike for the 49ers from him.
07:21And so it probably felt weird having to go put that on after he'd invested so much
07:25emotionally.
07:25But they still don't blitz very much.
07:28They blitz a little more than they have in some years past.
07:30I think – I was looking it up during the break.
07:33I think their blitz rate is 19th in the NFL.
07:35And so they've usually been right near the back end,
07:38but their pressure rate right now, they're the third lowest in the NFL
07:40at getting pressure.
07:42And so Dallas is a team that generates more pressure more consistently
07:45than San Francisco does.
07:47And because of that, they're able to survive a lot of it because –
07:51But against the run, they're the best, right?
07:53Yeah.
07:54So the secondary plays well.
07:55They've got good coverage linebackers.
07:56But then, yeah, against the run, they're so strong.
07:59You can't do anything to get things going there.
08:02And, you know, I think Brian talked about this yesterday.
08:05A lot of it when you watch them, you expect a run game.
08:09A lot of times you think trenches.
08:11All right, if your run game's good, you've got guys dominating up front.
08:14They're fine up front.
08:16They just got DeForest Buckner, and that made sense.
08:19But really what it is is those linebackers are ridiculous.
08:23Those linebackers are so good.
08:24And Fred Warner is way up there as Defensive Player of the Year nominee.
08:28He is so good.
08:30And it's guys who are – we always talk about, like, hey,
08:33if we could get some help from the defensive line to keep our linebackers clean,
08:36that's a – you don't even need the defensive line, really,
08:39to do anything that spectacular when you've got Warner.
08:42He might be my favorite player.
08:43He's so good, and he's so much fun to watch, and he makes things so difficult.
08:47And he has been an absolute thorn for Dak and for the Cowboys in terms of just being able
08:53to bait them into some things and give them looks that they think they have,
08:58that it's not actually what they think it is.
08:59And so Fred Warner is going to be huge in this game.
09:02I mean, there's not an easy way to really counter that.
09:04Greenlaw punches it out.
09:06Yep.
09:06Their defense – they are a very aggressive defense in terms of trying to generate turnovers.
09:11And so, like we mentioned a little bit earlier,
09:13turnover battle is how teams have kept it close with them.
09:16You need to protect the football.
09:17You need to generate one or two turnovers.
09:20You have to do it.
09:21And Atlanta had three double-digit play drives to keep the ball from them.
09:26This is a week to pass, and it's – I mean, there's not a great option here,
09:32but they've shown vulnerability in the passing game.
09:35And, you know, it's something where we talked about the Raiders turning over the ball
09:40as much as they did.
09:41They were moving it, and then they would turn it over, and that's what was killing them.
09:45So protect the football because you can move it if you get some consistency.
09:49I'd like to see them just take the ball.
09:51If they win the coin toss, I'd like to see them just take the ball right out.
09:54Oh, baby, let's go.
09:55And then just try to get something established of just like, hey, we're ahead.
09:59Let's give our defense a little bit of breathing room.
10:01But go out there, attack them the same way you were trying to do some of those things,
10:06you know, offensively against Indianapolis last week with the passing game
10:09and stretching the field.
10:10But it's a really, really good football team.
10:12Dallas is going to have a tough time.
10:13Even if they're able to take away two or three of the things that the 49ers do really well,
10:17you're still in a lot of trouble with some other things they do.
10:19I've heard he's so good, man, and it's like – it's like don't overthink it.
10:24Don't overthink it.
10:26If you're going to bet this game, you know, it's like we were –
10:31I think Vegas is overthinking this thing.
10:34I don't understand the line.
10:35I love the over.
10:38It's just one of those things.
10:39It makes no – Cowboys winning this game just doesn't make sense to me.
10:44It's the number one thing Cowboy fans are saying is, oh, just like them to do it.
10:49Yeah.
10:49Just like – I mean, that's the most positive thing.
10:52It's not a matchup.
10:53Right.
10:53It's not some type of coaching advantage.
10:56It's, oh, the Cowboys win this and then lose to the Titans.
10:59That's the number one thing Cowboy fans are saying.
11:01So, you're right.
