00:00 The problem is that the people we are looking for solutions to, they are part of the problem.
00:07 Because when they come to the tax office, which is not there today,
00:11 their shops are running in those offices themselves.
00:14 They don't want to come to the tax debt themselves, so they don't want to get taxed.
00:17 So how will this be solved?
00:19 The shops are running and they don't want to bring down that system.
00:23 If someone sees…
00:25 If someone sees that agriculture income will be taxed, and there is a thousand Aarti in the market,
00:30 then they won't let it be taxed.
00:32 I'll give you an example.
00:34 For example, there was a finance minister of the government of Imran Khan.
00:36 He was a very good man.
00:38 I respect one of the few people, Mr. Vasad Umar.
00:41 Mr. Hamad Azhar took my question in his favor.
00:43 I was saying that he supported me.
00:45 He read your question.
00:47 He read the whole PTI.
00:49 Hamad Azhar is a very good man.
00:51 He supported me a lot.
00:53 I have supported him all my life.
00:55 So what did you do to upset him?
00:57 No, no, I said that the steel business is his too.
01:00 What's wrong with that?
01:02 If the steel business is his, then it's not wrong.
01:04 I was saying that he supported me against FATA.
01:07 He said that you are saying this to please someone,
01:09 to get a place in the caretaker status.
01:11 I am saying this on record on your show today,
01:14 that my mother is 91 years old.
01:16 I can't go to the caretaker, leaving Karachi.
01:19 If you make me a president, I won't be ready.
01:21 You know, everyone knows how close I am to my mother.
01:25 Last time I took her to Islamabad, I was in pain.
01:29 As long as my mother is alive, I can't leave Karachi.
01:32 This is my convinced position.
01:34 But you can leave her in the caretaker, in Sindh Subahiwala.
01:36 No, I won't leave her.
01:38 You won't have to leave Karachi for her.
01:40 Let's move on.
01:42 The thing is that
01:44 Pakistan's economy has been destroyed in 20 years.
01:49 Just take one thing from this.
01:51 When you have grown 50% of the population in 20 years,
01:57 you put 8 crore people in the market
02:01 to feed them without growing the economy.
02:05 What will happen? This was bound to happen.
02:07 This was bound to happen.
02:10 On the financial side, this was bound to happen.
02:12 That Pakistan's...
02:14 I am saying this on record today.
02:16 The PDM people will be upset about this.
02:19 The biggest current account deficit in Pakistan's history
02:24 was left by Nawaz Sharif in 2018.
02:26 18 billion dollars.
02:28 Is having a high current account deficit always a bad thing?
02:32 It's not a bad thing.
02:34 But people who have a shortage of dollars are bad for them.
02:37 When I went to Imran Khan, I asked him,
02:40 "Sir, what is your mistake?"
02:42 When you came in 2018, you said, "We have come."
02:47 You didn't put their balance sheet in front of the public.
02:50 You said, "Sir, this is the position."
02:52 You used to tell us in every speech.
02:54 He didn't even explain the current account deficit.
02:56 He explained to us that it is like this,
02:58 it is like that, it is exported,
02:59 this much dollar comes, this much goes, this much is left.
03:01 In the debate.
03:02 You didn't tell us after the public came.
03:04 I told him this. I am saying this on record today.
03:06 I told Khan sir that you should have said this in the assembly
03:10 that this is the balance sheet, this is the situation in Pakistan
03:14 and I cannot bring about a change in this in another five years.
03:19 Okay, so this cannot happen in five years?
03:21 No, it cannot happen.
03:22 If a person says that he will do it, he is lying.
03:25 Why do you want to do this?
03:27 And if you want to bring about a change,
03:29 you need a two-third mandate to straighten everything.
03:33 Look, you understand the realities, sir.
03:36 You need a mandate of two-thirds.
03:39 You need a mandate that tomorrow this will not happen,
03:41 that you touched this, so this one stood up,
03:43 sometimes MKM stood up, sometimes BAP stood up,
03:45 sometimes someone else stood up.
03:47 The examples you gave,
03:48 if you touched Zara, then Shamamud stood up,
03:50 if you touched Tobacco, then Asad Qaisar stood up.
03:52 So these were the relatives of PTI.
03:54 So if PTI, and according to Khan sir,
03:57 these are all thieves, robbers, dacoits,
03:59 they eat together, so you don't eat, Khan sir.
04:01 No, he is not a thief.
04:02 No, according to Khan sir.
04:03 No, there is no case in their connection.
04:05 But they don't want to upset their lobby.
04:07 No, I am saying that in a time like this,
04:09 later it will be revealed,
04:10 but in a time like this,
04:11 when Khan sir and the establishment were on the brink of romance,
04:13 Bajwa sir and Khan sir were such that we used to say,
04:15 may Allah protect us from evil eyes,
04:16 otherwise we would have been caught.
04:17 Even in that era, if Mehmood Khan or X, Y, Z stood up
04:19 and couldn't make them stop,
04:20 that brother, this will cost tax,
04:21 then in which era will it be?
04:23 Then you are hopeless.
04:25 I will tell you.
04:26 It is on the record of that program,
04:29 that my meeting with the trader took place in an institution.
04:33 It took place.
04:34 First of all, why did it take place in an institution?
04:36 You didn't ask him,
04:37 why are you calling me here?
04:39 Why are you calling me?
04:40 Okay.
04:41 Look at their courage in the institution.
04:43 They said, no, we will not give.
04:45 We will not give.
04:47 Okay, we will not give.
04:48 Now the question is,
04:50 the institution can only maintain it for law and order.
04:53 Did we have political will?
04:55 I didn't even have it.
04:56 Did we have the will to shut down the market?
04:59 Do you have the courage?
05:02 Are you, Mr. Asbasim Badabi,
05:05 ready to shut down the market for 15 days in Karachi?
05:08 If this tax is imposed, it will not be lifted from tomorrow.
05:10 We will see.
05:11 I will shut down the market,
05:13 your program will work.
05:14 Saffar sir has shut down the market.
05:15 This happened, this happened, this happened.
05:17 Can anyone shut down the market?
05:19 Okay, now I will tell you.
05:20 But the state has to use its hands a little.
05:23 Listen, do you remember in Karachi,
05:24 when the milk sales happened,
05:25 at that time, Mustafa Kamal was there.
05:26 He told everyone,
05:27 he said, this will happen.
05:29 Sell on this much.
05:30 That's what I am saying,
05:31 this state has to do it.
05:33 Do you think these governments,
05:36 which have been coming to you,
05:37 including Musharraf's government,
05:39 do they have this political, cultural, moral mandate
05:42 to do this?
05:43 It's a matter of willingness.
05:45 There is willingness.
06:07 I made an agreement with the retailer in 2019.
06:10 When it didn't happen, I came home.
06:12 Today it's 19 to 23.
06:13 It's not imposed.
06:14 Why?
06:15 Okay, 23.
06:16 So everyone knows why it's not imposed.
06:17 Someone come and impose it today.
06:19 They have imposed it.
06:20 So will everyone's emphasis be on the oppressed?
06:22 There is a class, the salaryman,
06:25 he is paying the tax.
06:26 He was not paying 10 rupees,
06:27 he was paying 20 rupees from yesterday.
06:28 Okay, there were dead bodies of 100 people in Hazara.
06:30 And he was saying, Mr. Imran Khan, come.
06:32 So he said, I will not blackmail,
06:34 first bury the bodies, then I will come.
06:36 Why will you blackmail here?
06:37 This is what I am telling you.
06:38 So everyone's emphasis is on the oppressed class,
06:41 who have 100 dead bodies lying around.
06:43 No, I am trying to say this.
06:44 Actually, political parties have no idea about this.
06:50 I am talking very candidly about the actual issues of the economy.
06:54 They only come to work in the cursory.
06:58 They have no homework.
07:00 I told you in the program that day,
07:01 I am saying today that the IMF has made a cash flow for them
07:05 for the next 5 years.
07:06 You can call any party,
07:08 if they explain, I will change the name.
07:10 They don't know.
07:11 They don't know.
07:12 They do this,
07:14 I did this, I heard the current account together,
07:16 Mr. Shabaz Sharif did 10,
07:18 I did 10, you did 12.
07:19 They are playing on optics,
07:20 the headline becomes the shutdown.
07:21 Sir, how long will they play on the headline?
07:24 How long will they play?
07:25 Tell me, Waseem,
07:26 how long will you play on the headline?
07:27 The nation is dead.
07:29 The nation is worth $290.
07:31 It did not go away from the Afghan currency.
07:33 Look at the condition of Bangladesh,
07:35 look at the position of Bangladesh,
07:36 look at the position of India,
07:39 what world are you sitting in?
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