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00:00:00 can't even answer the question. Rico, were you rooting for me to win if Jerry wasn't
00:00:04 involved? No, he can't. Why? I don't get his eye opening day. This is so crazy. He literally
00:00:12 can't root for what I thought was my friend bar stool. Pick them. We are back. It is week
00:00:18 13, the last week of the regular season. Uh, and we're gonna, we're gonna find out what
00:00:26 happens here. This is the, this is feast week. This is rivalry week. I'm so excited. We will
00:00:33 be in Ann Arbor for, uh, the game. Get excited for that. Dave, I'll start with you. How are
00:00:40 we feeling about, you mean like Michigan or like everything? I've been tilting. I've been
00:00:47 tilting. So I've had a, I was really hot. I think I won 14 and 15 leading into that
00:00:54 Bengals injury game. And now I've, I've lost it all back and then more because I've increased
00:01:01 bets. Uh, I, the Bengals game killing then I was doing so bad yesterday. I bet on Utah
00:01:08 college Hoover, St. John's. That was an anti St. John's bet because I had watched them
00:01:14 and I don't think they're good. I hadn't seen anything. Oh, Utah, Utah is so bad, so bad,
00:01:20 so bad, so slow, so white, so bad. Um, it was the worst bet. Like they were down 10
00:01:29 there minus five. They, they went up to, but like I was watching the game, it's fool's
00:01:33 goal. They stink. They stink. So, um, yeah. And then the Broncos late loser Celtics loser.
00:01:43 The only thing I should just bet a hundred grand on Mr. Ice every night. It's, I called
00:01:47 it my savings bond yesterday. I just put the money away and it's like, I know that I'll
00:01:52 just comp compound interest. I don't even know if that's how saving bonds work, but
00:01:57 it is the most him and Che. Che is one 11 in a row. I haven't been on Che. The two guys,
00:02:03 they just, all my bets lose. And then those guys keep me afloat. That makes me sad that
00:02:08 Che Che I can't like it's it's his ship moves so fast. I never know. So yeah, you, you,
00:02:17 it's um, I was on Utah with you cause I was, I saw you tweeted it. I was like, I'm fucking
00:02:21 hopping in this hole. It was, they were never, never close to covering that big man. They
00:02:27 have people. Oh, he scored 30 points last game. No 35. He's the worst player I've ever
00:02:33 seen. He, he thinks he's Elijah one with the shot selection that he has. He'll take like
00:02:40 sky hooks from like the top of the key. They're not even close. They're not even, I don't
00:02:49 know if this guy had one good game. He was shooting shots that the best centers in the
00:02:55 history of the game couldn't hit like back to the basket, 15 feet out turnarounds and
00:03:02 you take it and like they weren't even close. He'd air ball by two feet. And it, I, that
00:03:12 was one of the worst things I've ever watched. It's feast week. It's feast week. I would
00:03:16 know who that guy is Rico. This big guy in Utah. I don't, I don't seven feet tall. He,
00:03:22 he could have his name. Now the moves he was doing, you couldn't hit on an empty gym. It
00:03:29 was surreal. The shots he was taking. Um, I was so close to that TD parlay, which would
00:03:36 have just set me up for feast week. Brandon Carlson, Carlson. Uh, thank you Dave for,
00:03:45 for rooting, rooting for me. Thank you. Elio. It's good to know everyone's rooting for you
00:03:49 when you got a play like that going. And I saw the parlay. I have him on my fantasy team.
00:03:54 I feel like he's scored like four straight weeks. I know. And he was your easiest guy
00:03:59 plus one 10. And if the Broncos don't get, they, we basically had the chance. It was
00:04:04 third and one. They did a Russell Wilson sneak, got it called an offsides. Like that was it.
00:04:10 They would have been, they would have been first and goal at like the eight and they
00:04:13 would have run at least twice to him. And that was brutal. Um, I, I still had 22 and
00:04:17 eight last night, Dave, that guy Rico, he, he shoots the ball every single time. Yeah.
00:04:26 I was driving 90% of his points were like broken play, like put back balls kicked. He
00:04:35 just picks up and dogs. He's horrible. Um, yeah, I was, I was, that was, that was a tough
00:04:42 game, but I do appreciate, yeah. Uh, the TD parlay Dave, you rooting for me and we, we,
00:04:46 we like when you're close on a parlay, you'll send it to me and I'll be fucking dialed in.
00:04:51 Um, it's good to know you have friends. I'm like some people in the room who I, it's insane
00:04:57 to root against a friend to win a hundred grand on a $2,000 bet. Insane. Some may say
00:05:03 it's not a friend. I think it's a hell of a spin zone to say that somebody has nothing
00:05:07 to do with its impact on it. But I never said that. I literally, I never said that you had
00:05:13 an impact on it. I, where you can actually see the tweet where I said Rico had no impact
00:05:18 on this bet whatsoever. It's just Dave, I don't know if you saw the clip. He was asked
00:05:22 if he's rooting for Javante Williams. He couldn't bring himself to say that he wanted me to
00:05:26 win that bet. I also saw you blame it on Hank early. Well, yeah, that was Hank did fuck
00:05:32 us at the beginning, but we, we, that was, that was that one possession. The TV's changed.
00:05:36 He was looking for the Celtics game and the TV's changed when they're in the red zone.
00:05:42 But yeah, Rico can't, he can't bring himself to even say just even lie and just be like,
00:05:47 yeah, I want them to win because he was a little, I was a little thrown off by the question
00:05:52 dudes is like, what do you, I was like, oh, I have Dobbs. So I didn't, you know, let's
00:05:55 have a set. I was rooting against it. You're such a liar. It's insane. And I lost so much
00:06:02 money. So you didn't know big cat had that back on. I was thrown off. I just thrown off
00:06:06 by the question. I was asked, what was the question? Yeah. What was the question? If
00:06:10 I was rooting for it, rooting for my bet, what was, what threw you off about that question?
00:06:15 Uh, I think the clock's going back. So Hank, you're just not a rider anymore, huh? Hank?
00:06:23 No, I did. That's see Dave. That's the interesting thing. Like with the gambling etiquette and
00:06:28 somebody says, Oh, I want to hear this. I want to hear the goals. And it's like a little
00:06:32 bit of like a laughy laughy, which again, like Hank was right. Like good luck. Hank
00:06:38 was right. I think one, I just expect to see Hank reading, reading Rico, the riot act being
00:06:44 the, the inquisitor, the inquisitor there, like the FBI.
00:06:48 Well, no, I was just curious. I, I, all these, all these fake writers, these new age riders,
00:06:54 the people that have been around for like a day, maybe one presidency, two presidencies
00:06:58 that are at my ass. This happens on the show. And most of the time I don't really, my ears
00:07:04 don't perk up. Dave's done it a lot where Rico says something and Dave kind of feels
00:07:09 it out. And it's like, I can tell by the way you're saying it, the opposite thing is going
00:07:12 to happen. My ears don't usually perk up. I usually just listen to the show, go about
00:07:16 my business. Don't really let your guys's opinions affect my picks. Cause I know that's
00:07:20 a dangerous game to play. When Rico was talking about the Kansas, Kansas state game, my ears
00:07:24 perked up and I was like, I don't, I think he's just doing, this is a heartbeat. It's
00:07:28 not a game of the year because of a stats. It's just, he wants Kansas state to win. Then
00:07:34 I still wasn't going to pick them as my mortal lock. Me and Jack McCarthy had been on the
00:07:38 same on opposite sides for mortals four times. I'm own four. I was going to take Washington.
00:07:44 He picked Oregon state. So the second he picked Oregon state, I was like, I can't, I can't
00:07:48 do this again. And so Kansas just opened itself up to me. It wasn't personal.
00:07:52 No, it was the right. I was never covering. Yeah. No. Kansas had an unbelievable game
00:07:58 plan. And the kid that I factored into beget his ass kicked Ballard played unbelievable.
00:08:04 So start to finish way better bet. I'm not even talking about that. I was talking more
00:08:09 about Rico being like, he wasn't aware of Dan's big bet. And then Hank, you, you continue
00:08:18 with a line of questioning being like Rico, you weren't aware of it because that seems
00:08:23 like a line of questioning. I would usually go down, not Hank, a rider. It doesn't seem
00:08:30 like that, that, uh, uh, uh, general should be, you know, reading the right act or, or,
00:08:37 or reading the Miranda rights to, to the Capitan. So that was what is a little surprise, Hank,
00:08:44 just trying to hold them account. You know, we're trying to, trying to all ride and ride
00:08:47 together, right? I didn't know that. I didn't know that Hank holds Rico accountable. It
00:08:53 was the easiest thing in the world for Rico just to say, yeah, I want him to win this
00:08:58 bet. And he literally is such a selfish prick. He couldn't bring himself to do that. It's
00:09:03 insane. It's actually insane. And again, I don't, I don't think Rico cost me the bet,
00:09:08 Hank. I don't think he cost me the bet. I obviously was upset because the TV changed.
00:09:12 It didn't wear red. The guide popped up and it got small. Like when we were running red
00:09:17 zone. But, um, I lost so much money on Kansas state, Dave, and then to have Rico not even
00:09:23 be able to say, yeah, I hope he wins a hundred thousand dollars on a $2,000 bet. It just
00:09:28 shows that he is the most selfish person we have at Barstool.
00:09:34 I never really asked you to bet Kansas state though. I mean, it's a competition. We're
00:09:38 trying to give out the best. That's what you're going to go with. Why were you set game of
00:09:43 the year? I fucking ride with you game of the year. You don't, you are incapable of
00:09:48 doing the same exact thing for someone else. That's it's been a running course for your
00:09:53 entire career. You can't, you want everyone to ride and then you don't, you're not able
00:09:58 to like even say, Hey, I hope he wins. You could have lied. That's the craziest part.
00:10:05 Is this because you win would have led to a Jerry Jerry win. Yeah. Yeah. He can't handle
00:10:13 the third. I hope you win Dan, but Jerry loses. Yeah. At least that would have been honest.
00:10:18 Actually, I don't know what was your stake in it. I was going to wipe his loan clean.
00:10:24 Got it. So yeah, yeah. That is the root of the problem. Rico did not want to see Jerry
00:10:30 win. Just said that Rico, I hope you win Dan, but I hope your partner loses. I don't know
00:10:35 that Rico was even wanting me to win though. I think Rico doesn't like me either, which
00:10:38 is fine. I'm happy. I know that now, but I think even if Jerry wasn't part of it, I think
00:10:43 he would have rooted. Yeah. I don't know because I got beyond, I got that old lab. He's just
00:10:47 crawling. He's rubbing up against my leg and I'm giving up pets now. So it's like, you
00:10:51 know, I think the story that everyone is kind of distracting Dave and you should be a little
00:10:56 mad in terms of this weekend. Um, we might have the biggest regular season game of the
00:11:02 fucking year. Like we, we are the answer the question, Rico, were you rooting for me to
00:11:09 win if Jerry wasn't involved? No, he can't. Why? I don't get this eye opening day. This
00:11:16 is so crazy that he literally can't root for what I thought was my friend. Like Dave, when
00:11:22 you send me a parlay, why would I, I would have been, yes, obviously I was obviously
00:11:27 how to take that long to just answer that. I guess you don't, I guess we're, I guess
00:11:33 we're not friends. That's fine. I did. When you have a big parlay, I root my balls off
00:11:37 for you because it's, why wouldn't you want your friend to win a big parlay? If you don't
00:11:41 have a hundred grand is insane, insane. And if you don't have a dr, obviously if you have
00:11:45 a direct bet against it that was preexisting, I would never expect you to just be like,
00:11:50 Oh fuck my bed. I'll root for yours. But he has no dog in the fight and he couldn't bring
00:11:55 himself to say, yeah, I hope you win. Cause he's that selfish. It's crazy. Okay. Yeah.
00:12:06 I don't know. It's a, it seems like a little bit of a stretch, but how, what am I stretching?
00:12:12 I think I'm going to lose, lose. So you're right. I'd say what? Lose, lose where what's
00:12:17 the lose, lose when someone says, are you rooting? Duke said, are you rooting for him
00:12:22 to win the bet? How, how is saying yes, a lose, lose. Well, because it's not, well,
00:12:34 no, I mean, we've already discussed it. You, you winning would mean Jerry winning. So that
00:12:39 part, so that's a lose I guess. But then what about me winning? That would be a win, right?
00:12:44 Correct. So I think, I think, I don't understand why the answer wasn't automatic. If it was
00:12:49 just me, what do you been rooting to me? That seems like it should be an automatic. Yes.
00:12:53 I understand the rivalry or whatever's going on with the old dog in the new dog. I get
00:12:59 that. So I see that. But I understand, yeah, I understand the root of this is Jerry versus
00:13:05 Rico. It's not me, but like just asking him now if it was just me and he couldn't even
00:13:10 answer that. So I think that he doesn't really, he's got an issue with me, which is fine,
00:13:15 but I'm happy. I know that you're like really stretching or that's yeah, no, I don't have
00:13:23 an issue. It's it is what it is. Yeah. I should answer quicker, I guess. But Rico, if it was
00:13:28 just my bet, would you have been rooting for me to win a hundred thousand on a $2,000 bet?
00:13:31 Yeah, that would've been great. Oh, see, that was nice. I mean, I appreciate it for the
00:13:36 first time in a long time. And I guess I'm not in Chicago heaven. I'm not even sure I
00:13:42 understand everything at it going on right now and play right now with, with Rico and
00:13:47 Jerry. I don't fully understand it either. Dave. Well, I, he, he, he, I think there's
00:13:53 maybe something going on between you two that I don't know about who me and who Rico I,
00:13:59 I didn't, I didn't think there was, but apparently there is maybe that was the, maybe a parade
00:14:04 in that new dog around a little bit too much. It's crazy. The old dog got paraded around
00:14:10 for like 10 years and he's, he's pretending that never happened. New dogs also in Chicago.
00:14:15 He bet he paid a lot of people, the old dog. He was right. Well, you couldn't parade him
00:14:19 around that much because he'd snap. You never knew agitated. Sometimes the old dog like
00:14:25 twists it around and says that there was never a parade for him and, and, and his owners
00:14:29 never bought him new things. Uh, when I think that's contrary to facts. Well, you couldn't
00:14:35 pray him again around too much because you know, he, he'd bite. Yeah. But you know what?
00:14:43 The new dog may bite a little bit too. He could, I could be in a, I could be, I could
00:14:48 be Joe Biden. Every dog I get bites, I could be in that situation. It's tough to watch
00:14:53 that unfold. And then it's like, I had really nothing to do with it. And then you're at
00:15:00 the root of the blame being four States away. I didn't, I didn't blame you for the bet losing.
00:15:06 I literally didn't blame you for the bet losing. I said it was not, I said it was not your
00:15:11 fault that it lost. You did not affect the bet whatsoever. I thought just rooting for
00:15:16 me would have been normal, but it wasn't. But if you're telling me that it's only the
00:15:21 new dog, that's a problem, not the owner. I can live with that.
00:15:26 Yeah. I think there was a, there was a bowl of food and yeah, it got into a little squabble
00:15:33 and then uh, that kind of set everything off. So yeah. Okay. So I, I got a, the new dog
00:15:39 should not be involved in bets publicly so that the old dog, that's, that's another,
00:15:44 that is a another like stretch of information. Do whatever you want, but I know that I don't
00:15:49 win or lose anyone else's bets. I know. I never said you did. How many times are you
00:15:54 going to say it? I do not think you affected the bet. All right. I literally just thought
00:15:59 we were friends and when you're like, I'm not rooting for it. I was like, okay, are
00:16:03 you wearing that hat on purpose? Rico? No, I was like this hat to be honest. What is
00:16:08 it? It's a dog. It's like a lab. It's, it looks like a chocolate lab. Rico, I lost so
00:16:16 much on K state. You could have wrote Hank. You had two dogs in the fight on that one.
00:16:25 Did I, I don't even know for the purpose of this show. Did I was a Kansas state, a loser
00:16:28 for me or a winner because I know I thought, what? Well, I thought it was a quarterback
00:16:33 played that Kansas would cover. Yeah. So you're in a tough spot, Dave, because pregame Jason
00:16:39 being warmed up. So the rumor was, Oh, he didn't play. He didn't take, he didn't take
00:16:45 one snap. It was like a decoy the whole way. So, Oh wow. Then I guess you really should
00:16:50 have, you really should, you should have read declared before game time and the line moved
00:16:54 back from 10 to seven. So you really should have like reclarified right before kick. When
00:16:59 I saw, I thought I saw his plane and I thought the line moved from 10 to seven. So I assumed
00:17:03 he played, I didn't see a play. Everybody thought he was, it was a decoy. It was booby
00:17:06 miles. Got Cole Ballard played. Got it. Wow. So they, they scored that many points with
00:17:12 the third, dominated the clock in the first half. They ran a wildcat. The kid, uh, Neil,
00:17:18 they couldn't tackle him. It was Devin Neil. Interesting. It was a tough one. I I'd still
00:17:23 ride with you, Rico. Like I don't, I'm not mad at you that I lost on Kansas state. I'm
00:17:27 a big boy. I felt the game of the year energy needed it. I felt good about Georgia too.
00:17:34 Fucking should've made that one. But it is what it is. Um, you also got, you got a shout
00:17:39 out from PFT Rico for, for your game of the year. Yeah. Confused Corso. How, how did he,
00:17:48 how did he know it was your game of the year? Uh, I congratulated him on going on the show.
00:17:53 I said, Hey, hope for a shout out. I mean, that goes a long way. So you asked for a shout
00:17:58 out. I said, hope you pick Kansas state hope for a game of the year. Shout out. How many
00:18:02 times did you congratulate him? Well, he didn't answer the first one. So I said, still congrats.
00:18:08 So yeah, I said too. And when you saw him in person, did you ask for a shout out? No,
00:18:14 it's good to see you talking to those birdies, Jack, instead of moving them. I heard you
00:18:20 cornered him in the hallway. There was a rumor going around, Dave, that Rico was like, you
00:18:24 have to say my name when you go on this. Dave, let's Dave impartial judge and the head of
00:18:31 this company who stops a victim of rumors yourself. When was it announced? He was in,
00:18:37 he was doing it. I'm not a Thursday, Thursday, Thursday. Okay. On my own dime, I flew out
00:18:45 there Thursday and then cornered him in the market and no one saw me in the office while
00:18:50 I came back to do pick central Thursday and Friday. Let's you cornered him. You cornered
00:18:57 him in Chicago. They're saying it's the only place he was at that place. Wired. But he
00:19:04 had Rico saying he couldn't have cornered him because when he was in Chicago, it wasn't
00:19:09 known that he was doing it. Right. I got your back. I have no idea what's like. I was just
00:19:16 told that you asked for a shout out. What is your game here? Jackie? I was just told,
00:19:20 I was just told that there was, it was brought up multiple times to PFT that it was his game
00:19:24 of the year. And then who are you getting your info from? My, my, my info is coming
00:19:29 straight from the source. You got to remember the tight him and Maxie big at the tables.
00:19:37 They are thick as the, that's a direct, like, did you ask for a shout out or no? Yeah. Okay.
00:19:46 Then we're good. Goes a long way. I know it's just a big moment for PFT and then you to
00:19:51 instantly make it about yourself is right on brand. You know, what's good for Bosco
00:20:00 is good for the brand. Right? Fair point. The old dog just wanted a belly rub. I mean,
00:20:09 you get your name mentioned on national TV. That's something you can huge. Yeah. You hang
00:20:15 that. I framed that picture and hung it on the fridge with the captions printed out from
00:20:19 the TV. But, but the game law, that's another spin zone. They picked straight up on that
00:20:27 show. So technically it won the game of the year lost. Right. But I get, he got a winner
00:20:33 with Kansas state. Good point. That's, that's a fact. Got it. Got it. Dave, you've been
00:20:39 nothing but you should think about running for judge. I know like they blowed that president
00:20:43 shit. You are straight now. I'll be honest. I never trusted the process when they say,
00:20:50 Hey, you know, Dave's fair. It has rung true more than ever. I've told you that from day
00:20:56 one. Right. If you go in and you're trying to, if you go into the judge and you're trying
00:21:01 to beat a murder rap and you've got things like, and you're trying to squeeze your way
00:21:04 out of it, it's not going to work. Well, the judge is going to be like, Oh, when you go
00:21:07 in straight as an arrow for a parking ticket and you have clear alibis, it's a lot easier
00:21:12 to get the judge to dismiss the case. No. Yeah. Very, very much learning that I am in
00:21:16 this, in the spirit of Thanksgiving, I'm sorry. It took me 10 years, but I look you in the
00:21:20 eyes. I say, that's true. I appreciate that. It's huge. That's huge. And in the spirit
00:21:27 of, you know, big things to go big, I mean, it's 30 minutes here. Go big blue. We got
00:21:31 a big fucking game this week. We get into though. Maybe the biggest game in college
00:21:36 football history, biggest game, biggest college on this show, biggest college football game
00:21:41 since we've been doing barstool. No doubt. Regular season. Yes. I would say period playoff
00:21:51 where, which one did this Michigan, Ohio state game with everything surrounding it is the
00:21:58 history of the show forever. Since obviously the Patriots had what I would say is similar
00:22:03 type things because of everything they went through. But when you find this game, the
00:22:09 rivalry, the records, what's on the line, the controversy, it's the biggest game we've
00:22:15 had since doing this show since barstool college football for us without a doubt.
00:22:22 All right, let's talk some, some college football. Obviously the playoff picture gets a little
00:22:28 murky now that Jordan Travis broke his leg. Rico, what are your thoughts on what the committee's
00:22:33 thinking or where, where it's going to land? I was talking to Travi. He's saying that this
00:22:38 basically gives them a freebie. If even if Florida state wins out, they can make a case
00:22:43 of like completely fucking them because it's the old NCAA tournament committee shit, which
00:22:47 I hate. Wait, they judge it for the boys. Yeah. They have an excuse now. Like nobody
00:22:54 wants to see Florida state in the playoff. They're obviously a different team without
00:22:58 him, which I always say it's like when they gave Kenyon Martin a two seed with Cincinnati
00:23:02 cause he got hurt.
00:23:03 It's like, well judge them on what they did. If they go undefeated, I think they're in,
00:23:07 but I do see the scapegoat. I don't think they'll beat Louisville. I also think they
00:23:10 could lose the Florida. Um, I haven't told me this backup guys played before and it's
00:23:15 pretty good. Yeah. And it's, it's kind of like, it's kind of like Cardale Jones. Cardale
00:23:20 Jones comes in, kicks the shit out of Wisconsin, the big 10 championship game. And so if he
00:23:26 goes in, beats Florida soundly beats Louisville soundly, you can't keep them out just because
00:23:32 he's the backup. Yeah. Jones, they went and wanted national title. I think that the kid,
00:23:36 it's not my idea. Sean's floating it. So I just, I think the kid has played a fan.
00:23:42 I think the kid has played before. I agree. You can't penalize them. Um, devastating loss.
00:23:46 Just devastating. Um, horrible, brutal injury. Dan was, I didn't even see as watching something
00:23:53 else I saw brutal. Uh, but if they're undefeated, they still got to go. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I,
00:24:00 the rest of the playoff. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. The more and more I look at it, I keep
00:24:04 talking myself into all Bama like three weeks ago. I'm like, bam is going to get in and
00:24:08 the committee's talking already. Bam is getting in over Texas. I really think when, when the
00:24:14 sun sets, George is going to be hanging that sec banner. So it might not matter. Yeah.
00:24:18 That's what the committee's rooting for. They're rooting for Georgia to win the SC championship
00:24:22 game and then they don't even have to worry about this. I is not, it's a non-issue is
00:24:27 Merck's out for Florida. That's what I saw. Yes. Yes. They actually hung in that game
00:24:33 against Mizzou though. Yeah. They lost on the last second field goal. Yeah. I had the
00:24:37 over and that it was slow and then went haywire in the third quarter and hit the over. Um,
00:24:41 Merck's like ran over two guys. No, he was out for the whole game, but he's in street
00:24:47 clothes. No, he played. I was watching the game. He, he, the second half he, yeah, he
00:24:53 ran through like he got sandwiched on tackle. It was amazing. He ran over two guys, got
00:24:59 a first down flexed, ran one more play and then he had to go to the sideline and then
00:25:04 he hurt his collarbone. Cause no, he heard it on that play and he changed for Merck went
00:25:09 14 of 21, one 83, two TDs and a big, I didn't watch a second. He got hurt on his amazing.
00:25:15 He, he, so in the fourth quarter he was in street clothes. So I was like, what's going
00:25:19 on? No, he got into him fast. He ran over to like he need, it was third down two guys
00:25:26 on Missouri came up to tackle him. He ran them both over. It may have been that they
00:25:30 hit them at the same time and like kept them up. He got drilled, but he, it looked like
00:25:36 he just Earl Campbell ran them over, celebrated, flexed, stayed in the lineup. And then the
00:25:43 next play, I think he just tried to hand it off, but he was broken on the score at it's
00:25:48 a grammar. It's a collarbone fracture out for a year. Yeah. He got watched the play
00:25:53 on the play. I'm watching it. He, he just completely trucked him. Yes, but he got trucked.
00:25:58 He may have actually got sandwiched. So he stood up, but that's the, he stayed in for
00:26:02 one play after that, but that was the end of it. Yeah. So Florida might've won that
00:26:07 game if they've grammar's and stayed in it. Yeah. He was cruising. Yeah. So that will
00:26:13 be, that will be tough for Florida going up against Florida state without a grand Mertz.
00:26:17 Yeah. That's what I was asking the backup. They didn't look the same. They did move it
00:26:21 up and down their run of all like crazy on Missouri. Yeah. There was just explosive play
00:26:25 after explosive play. Yeah. Cause I had the over as well. And I was like, yeah, I was
00:26:30 watching when we went dead. Yeah, I was watching. It was just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
00:26:33 one up and down. And then that really was the change of the game when Mark's got hurt.
00:26:38 All right. Does it feel like all year we kept saying like, Oh, it'd be great for a 12 team
00:26:43 playoff. It'd be great for a 12. Doesn't it feel like kind of seven through 12 is pretty
00:26:48 weak now. That's always going to be the case though. Yeah. Well, I mean it was David, it's
00:26:52 all like it was going to be loaded earlier in the year. You know what I mean? I feel
00:26:56 like the back end of the top 10 always are teams like that. You feel like we'll lose
00:27:01 by 40 to like the top. Yeah. You get, you get later in the season, you get like an Ole
00:27:05 Miss going to Georgia and losing by a hundred. Yeah. You may go shit. Sometimes you'll end
00:27:09 up with a team on a heater, like in Alabama where it's like you want to see them in there
00:27:13 or something, but it's generally the part of the top 10 is pretty weak.
00:27:17 Yeah. The AP AP right now is text. Well, Texas obviously a playoff, but nine Louisville,
00:27:23 Missouri state pen and Mississippi or a nine through 12. And then you got Oklahoma LSU
00:27:30 and Oregon state and Arizona behind them. So it's like Arizona's a team. I would love
00:27:34 to see a 12 team playoff. They've been playing great ball. Yeah. That's something they, they
00:27:40 have been, I mean, they kicked the shit out of Missouri, Missouri to, to a degree. Yeah.
00:27:45 I mean, they played Georgia pretty tough. Yeah, they did. They did. And then Heisman,
00:27:50 what do you guys think? I put a future on Jane Daniels. I think it might be Bo. You
00:27:55 think so? It's like even right now. Right? He balls out. Yeah. I mean, Jane Daniels,
00:28:00 I bet him at a plus five 50. He's down to plus one 10 and what's next? Plus one 20 plus
00:28:06 one 20. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think, I think his next is to lose because he's got the bigger
00:28:10 games. Yeah. Well more. So he's got two games instead of one, but they're also like bigger
00:28:16 games. Oh, I shouldn't say that. Cause he, he only, he might have one if he loses the
00:28:21 Oregon state, but that's a moot point. Cause if he loses, he's out of the race anyway.
00:28:23 Right. But Oregon state's a big game. And then, and Washington, huge. Yeah. I'm trying
00:28:28 to thread a needle here where I have the Oregon future and I have a Jaden Daniels Heisman
00:28:32 future. Dan, are you a little worried that every time people throw away Washington, it's
00:28:40 like Washington figures out a way to win. Yes. No, that game, their defense, like all
00:28:44 of a sudden was like, good. I, I watched that entire game and the whole time I was like,
00:28:51 Oregon state feels like they should be winning, but Washington just doesn't. They have a little
00:28:56 bit of TCU in them like last year where people doubt them, but all they do is keep winning.
00:29:01 And it's like in Michael Penix is incredible. He throws fucking darts and yeah, I agree
00:29:06 with you. Like there is definitely part of me like I don't think Oregon goes in and just
00:29:10 smashes them. No, no, absolutely not. I think it'll be a war. I think it'll be similar.
00:29:15 Like a three point game. That's what I need though. I need Bo Nix to somehow win these
00:29:19 next two games by like one point and uh, like look bad doing it. So, or I know Washington's
00:29:26 at home, but that apple cup always gets fucking bonkers. I could see wazoo spoiling the party
00:29:32 this week. Yeah. They buried Dion on Friday night. They, Cam, Cam ward is a good player.
00:29:38 It's just, they, you know, they, they haven't played great all year. So, but that apple
00:29:42 cup is banana. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's get some games. Um, by the way, barstool store,
00:29:49 this episode of pick them barstool store, uh, when you're listening to it later on this
00:29:53 week, we're gonna do our black Friday sale 20% off the entire store. What we're doing
00:29:57 this year is there's a goal. Once we hit the goal, everything over the goal, Dave is going
00:30:02 to give it to all the producers. So all the behind the scenes guys that do great work
00:30:06 here, uh, they will get a split of the pot. So I think if we get like a million over goal,
00:30:13 which is I think doable, if people step up, it's like can be, I don't know, 10, 20 grand
00:30:18 a person. So it's significant. Yeah. Yeah. So it'll be big and we're, we're going to
00:30:23 do a, but we're going to do our cyber Monday telethon. We're going to do something out
00:30:27 here to, uh, leading into the telethon where we do like a live stream with all the producers
00:30:31 playing basketball. So it should be great. Uh, all right, let's get to the games, uh,
00:30:37 records. We're all over 50%. That's good news. Dave, you're 53% Rico. You're 50.7. I'm 50.1
00:30:44 hanging on for dear life. Uh, and Bob Diaco standings, mortal locks, soupies in first
00:30:50 seven and force. I'm at seven and five, by the way, I actually, you know what? I'm going
00:30:55 to be the bigger man. I'm going to say right now, if I win the Bob Diaco, uh, trophy this
00:31:00 year, I'm vacating my title, my own title because that Auburn pick was the worst mortal
00:31:06 lock in the history of mortal locks. So I will vacate the title. If I do win it, we'll
00:31:11 just be like no winner that year because I should feel tremendous shame for that pick.
00:31:17 They lost by 21 as a 24 point favorite in a fucking by game. They paid him $1.8 million
00:31:24 to come to Auburn and Auburn lost outright by 21. That is the worst mortal lock pick
00:31:30 you could ever give. I am hereby if I do somehow beat Zupi out, I will vacate my own title.
00:31:37 Toledo was close. Toledo was close to the Rico like that's I deserve all the shame and
00:31:43 all the ridicule in fairness. That was, I think a 38 point difference. Maybe I got to
00:31:49 look at that final. I think they lost by 10. They might've lost by 20 but it was 28 points.
00:31:55 So that's a 48 point difference. Mine was a 45. No, yeah, mine was 45, 45. We'll have
00:32:01 to look that up. That score. I didn't think Diego Pavia was going to play. He's electric.
00:32:06 I mean that was the worst pick of all time. Literally. I don't think the only pick that
00:32:11 comes to mind that I had worse was, um, the game that you got kicked out of Dave, the
00:32:16 Rams Patriots Superbowl and I had the over. Oh yeah. It was like 55 and it was what? Like
00:32:21 13, six or something. Yeah. 13, three, 13, three. Yeah. Those are, those are humbling
00:32:27 when you have those, when you put a little extra cash on a bet and you're like, there
00:32:31 wasn't even a second that I was like close to even being in that game. Listen, it doesn't
00:32:37 have the same math, but the amount that I put on the Utah running youths, it, I, they
00:32:43 had no chance, none, zero. And I put like 120 on it.
00:32:47 Yeah. It's, I know you lost. It's so hilarious that it's a Sunday night game too. And like
00:32:52 the whole world is worried about the NFL and you have Utah, St. John's like Michigan pummeled
00:32:59 them. Then Michigan lost to like long beach state. St. John's had lost a Dayton St. John's
00:33:04 the old four versus spread. I didn't think they were good. I was like, Utah was three
00:33:08 and one of you though is even, and they're usually decent Utah. This team, I, Oh, horrible.
00:33:16 It's feast week, Dave. I know. I just checked myself. I'm I'm I'm Oh, and two already today.
00:33:22 It's fucking 11:00 AM on Monday. I'm going to be Oh, and two God damn it. All right.
00:33:29 Games. We got four of them. Oregon state, Oregon, the line right now we're taping this
00:33:34 Monday morning. So just be aware when these clips go out, we're taping it very early in
00:33:40 the week. Cause it's Chris Thanksgiving week, Oregon, Oregon state that is on Friday night.
00:33:47 I believe on black Friday, going to be a great game. Oregon is minus 14 over under 62 and
00:33:54 a half recall. I'll start with you. Yeah. So obviously Oregon state, they get their
00:33:59 chances ruined. Well, if they beat Oregon, are they in? No, probably not. No, I think
00:34:07 it's if they beat Oregon, I believe it might be, I'll look right now. I think Arizona might
00:34:14 be somewhere around there. Arizona has been so fucking good. They've been just money in
00:34:18 the bank. They have been insane. I'm I'm a look, keep going with your thoughts. No. So
00:34:25 Oregon state's five and three in the conference. So it's impossible. Yeah. It would be Arizona.
00:34:29 I think it would be a Oregon state needed to win out. Yeah. So yeah, whatever. So Oregon
00:34:37 state's party is now ruined. They had an outside shot, the big, the pack 12, but this game
00:34:41 means a lot. I actually think Oregon state has done a good job of stifling some defenses
00:34:47 to a degree. Like Washington has panics. They scored what? Fucking 22 points. That was also
00:34:52 a weather. That was, that was a sloppy game. Yeah. I'm going to go with the, with the under
00:34:57 to a degree. I think that they can slow down Oregon or disrupt them just a little. I don't
00:35:04 know if I want to lay the 13. I do think Oregon kind of, I think Oregon is going to win. I'm
00:35:09 going to go with the under just cause I think Oregon state can muck it up just a little
00:35:12 here and get them off to a slow start. Control the clock. I'm going to go under the 62 Dave
00:35:19 too many points for me for rivalry game, obviously devastating loss for Oregon state last week,
00:35:24 but this is plenty to play for just to spoil their season. Oregon's playing great. All
00:35:29 right. Nobody's good as good as I don't care. Winning 50 every game. I don't know. Part
00:35:34 of me thinks I should do first half. They keep it close, but I don't want to fuck around
00:35:37 with that. I'm just meaning they could keep it close and then get like Oregon could pull
00:35:43 away late third, fourth. I'm going to keep it simple. I'm just going to take the points.
00:35:46 It's a rivalry game. Oregon state's good. I'm going to take Oregon state and the points
00:35:50 for a bounce back. Um, and a tight, tight. I am as well. I just think that the fact that
00:35:56 it's, you know, the last pack 12 game ever for Oregon state in state rival, these guys
00:36:01 may never play again, which is a absolute shame. Crazy. Yeah, it sucks. So I'm going
00:36:08 to take the points as well. I'll take plus 14. All right, next game FSU at Florida. So
00:36:15 backup bull, uh, this line, I think it was six and a half. Let me get the updated line
00:36:21 right now. It is six and a half. So Florida is a six and a half point dog over under 51
00:36:29 and a half Dave. I'll start with you. I think Florida keeps us close. Can win it. Obviously
00:36:33 the backup. Uh, I think it probably would have been close with Travis to be honest.
00:36:38 Um, we'll see what Florida state's made of. A lot of times you can rally around something
00:36:42 like this. You know, they had that picture of the entire Florida state like team basically
00:36:47 at the hospital. So they're tight group and I do think they're going to rally, but I think
00:36:51 Florida is playing. Okay. Um, I think it's a tight game that Florida state figures out
00:36:56 a way to win, but I'll take the points. Yeah, I'm going to go with Florida as well. Uh,
00:37:01 just rivalry week, everything that's at line also Florida state. I think their backup is
00:37:06 decent, but the pressure they have to feel right now knowing that they don't have like
00:37:12 Jordan Travis was so good and he was able to get them out of things and, and, and win
00:37:17 games to not have that in your back pocket. When you know that you can't lose a game down
00:37:22 the stretch, you have everything in front of you. Florida's got nothing to lose. Their
00:37:26 season sucked. I'm going to take Florida as well. Rico under just for the sense. I know
00:37:33 Dave, you're starting to concern me. Like I said, I didn't watch much of Florida. They're
00:37:36 running the bowl over the place, but the two backup bowls, I think they played a little
00:37:39 conservative. I'm gonna go under 51 and a half. Okay. Uh, next game we have Alabama
00:37:48 at Auburn iron bowl, Auburn's plus 15 at home over under 48 and a half. Dave, I'll start
00:37:56 with you. I mean, listen, that last game shocking clearly, but sandwich spots, sandwich spots,
00:38:02 um, I haven't said that. I think Alabama still kills them. I'll take it. I'll be, you do.
00:38:08 Yeah. I'm going to take the over 48 and a half in this game. Um, I don't know. Auburn's
00:38:15 offense. Well, I can't say they're, they've been better at home because they just lost
00:38:19 to New Mexico state. Uh, but I'll take the over in this game. I, I, I tend to lean what
00:38:25 you're saying, Dave, that Alabama, like they have just been wasting team. Yeah. And I don't
00:38:29 think all is very good. So it's like their rise up. Like I, yeah, I'm shocked they lost,
00:38:36 but clearly they were looking ahead to this. Um, I just, there's too big of a difference
00:38:41 in the teams. I think, yeah, Rico, uh, you just kind of hit me with something with the
00:38:47 math on this game. This total is 48, 48 and a half. Okay. And I'm laying 15. What's Alabama's
00:38:54 team total 30 it's early in the week. So like 31, do we estimate 30? I'll look it up for
00:39:01 you, but that's the, that's the way I'm going to go. I'm going to go Alabama's team total.
00:39:08 All right, let me find it. Whatever it ends up being. No, we'll find it right now. It
00:39:15 seems like a very low total in a game where I'm laying 15. It's probably probably in the
00:39:21 thirties. Right? Hold on. I'm finding it. I'm finding it over in Alabama. Yeah, we don't
00:39:30 have one yet. It's too early in the week. All right. So we'll give you whatever it is.
00:39:34 That's what, whatever it is, Jack, you could, you put it that way. I'll also, uh, you know
00:39:41 what? Give me three of them. Fuck it. Uh, Alabama and Alabama first half. Ooh. Yeah.
00:39:46 I like it. Okay. Uh, last game, the big game, we will be there. Everyone, please come out.
00:39:53 We'll be across the street from Ann Arbor from, from, uh, the big house, all the big
00:39:57 shows Fox ESPN us. I've been saying as a Michigan man, we should be the only show that people
00:40:02 show up to ESPN has been very rude. Pete family. Um, that fucking pencil geek, um, whatever
00:40:09 that sec fucking piece of trash fucking four eyed loser. Um, yeah. Who won't recognize
00:40:17 me? Shut the fuck up. So I'm taking Michigan. Um, you know, it's a shame we don't have a
00:40:24 coach. We're playing with one hand behind our back, but that's how crying Ryan wanted
00:40:28 it. He doesn't want a fair fight cause he knows he's going to get his ass kicked in
00:40:32 a fair fight. It's three and a half. I think now first time Michigan has been favored in
00:40:37 five years in this game, but they haven't beat us since the days of COVID this last
00:40:42 game, the least shocking thing of all time. It's deja vu. It's what they did against Illinois
00:40:48 last year. There's just, and I said it, I said on this show, I said on college show,
00:40:54 there is no way you can get up and football is that sport where if you're not ready, you
00:41:01 end up in, in games like Michigan was at with, uh, Maryland. I do think Michigan has essentially
00:41:11 shut it down these last two weeks offensively and people like, Oh, JJ, don't forget JJ McCarthy
00:41:19 was the Heisman favorite like three weeks ago. I think they're going to let him loose
00:41:22 just like they did last year. Uh, and, and I think we go in and I beat, we beat Ohio
00:41:28 state again for the millionth time in a row. Okay. Oh, Dave, are you a little nervous that
00:41:36 Harbaugh accepting his penalty is maybe a sign that he's going to leave? No, I thought
00:41:41 that was magnanimous. Like all the talk about what judges seeing it, what's happening next
00:41:48 when the court cases, nobody's talking about the kids. Nobody's talking about the players.
00:41:53 It's like sister Jean, like let's put the focus on the guys strapping the helmets on,
00:42:00 take that out. We don't need two weeks of, will he be there? Will he not be there? This
00:42:04 is about the kids. This is about Blake Coram. This is about JJ McCarthy. This is about all
00:42:08 the guys who line up and they only have four years there. Dan Harbaugh coach, you can coach
00:42:15 forever. He wants to put experience. He wanted to put the focus back on the game, the field.
00:42:21 I thought it was one of the, if a lack there were the most Michigan man thing, a Michigan
00:42:26 man can do by saying, you know what, I'm going to take myself out. It's bullshit. We'll just
00:42:32 step aside and we'll let the kids have the focus. See, I, I feel like he knows that the
00:42:40 NCAA and the big 10 just want him. And he was like, I'll take this. Maybe I'll be able
00:42:45 to coach the big 10 championship game. I'll be able to coach in the playoffs. And then
00:42:49 I'll just, I'll, I'll get out of Dodge and you guys can, you know, Michigan can carry
00:42:53 on as a program.
00:42:55 Listen, eat that. That's a different way of saying what I'm saying. Like, yeah, no, no,
00:42:59 I, I, yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree with what you're saying. I just think it might be bigger.
00:43:03 Like he's, he's setting the stage for, it's clear that you guys want your blood. Yeah.
00:43:10 So want me more than anything else. I'll leave cry. Ryan wants like joy. It's the Jordan.
00:43:16 It's the Jordan Belford speech in front of all of his guys. He's going to take the rap
00:43:20 so that the whole thing can carry on.
00:43:22 Listen, I maybe does. And it's sad thing. It's just, it's because Michigan has been
00:43:29 the dominant force and crying. Ryan can't beat them though. We, as big as this thing's
00:43:34 gotten, you can't forget it's over like signals. It's crazy. And it's jealousy. And that's
00:43:42 what happens in the big day. That's why I said we should leave the conference. But if,
00:43:45 if there's maybe Harbor's part of me like, Oh, you think this is going to get rid of
00:43:49 me? It won't. I'm going to stick around here and beat the piss out of you for the next
00:43:52 decade. Or would I be grudging? Maybe it's like, this is crazy. Like, like I can't deal
00:43:58 with these cry babies and we, you know, when the big 10 again, and I'm going to listen,
00:44:03 am I, everything I say here is the truth.
00:44:05 Am I confident going up against Georgia? No, I think that's going to be a very tough game.
00:44:12 But let you know, if he wins the big 10 for the third straight time beats Ohio for the
00:44:17 third straight time goes undefeated and what like 24 straight big 10 championships and
00:44:23 crying Ryan can't compete. And Tom Petiti, who somebody told me he was like, what, where
00:44:29 does he come from MLB? Yeah, that guy's a fucking more. So, so he, he, he's like the
00:44:35 Astros. He dealt with it. Like he's singles. And for him, it's this big thing. And he's,
00:44:41 and, and Harbaugh says, you know what? I I'm just going to step aside because this is crazy.
00:44:46 What we're dealing with babies. He leaves. It believes this legacy of just absolutely
00:44:52 destroying the program in Ohio. He's going to do what he's got to do, but this is the
00:44:57 big game. It all depends on this. He can't, we, he can't leave if we don't win this game.
00:45:04 Yeah, I'd agree with that. He's got to win this game. He has to. Uh, it's all the chips.
00:45:11 Like it's the best. This is why we love sports. Everything's in the middle. I have to win
00:45:15 this game. I think, and I know like people say McCarthy, the biggest differential is
00:45:21 our quarterback versus theirs. I have confidence in McCarthy and I think they're going to unleash
00:45:25 I think McCord stinks, stinks. So the only counterpoint I'd have is Ohio state does have
00:45:33 the best player on the field. That is a fact with a Harrison. Yes. I'm not as impressed
00:45:41 as with him as everybody. His dad, his dad, his dad, what he does. Dad murder somebody.
00:45:46 There was a gut. There was, we could go to our, our gun expert. It was like a gun and
00:45:51 then it was moved. It was like his auto body. Yeah. Rico, you've been in these situations
00:45:57 before. How do we get out of it? Uh, I was unfamiliar. I do know he had, yeah, decorated
00:46:03 past, uh, depends if he was charged or not. Really. But, and I mean, you know, whatever
00:46:09 that is, his dad, whatever. Listen, I, I, Michigan looked really bad against Maryland.
00:46:16 They look really bad against Illinois the year before. I think you're going to come
00:46:21 out and see a gas stop, ready to roll angry, mean, uh, Michigan. We didn't play with our
00:46:28 best receiver by the way, last week, the guy wearing the free Harbaugh shirt. Yeah, no,
00:46:35 I, I, it's um, this game, I, I, right now as we're, as we're sitting here, I might change.
00:46:43 I'm going to take the under at 47 and a half just because I do think these two teams know
00:46:48 each other so well. And it, like you said, Dave, like Michigan has shown that if they
00:46:54 can win the game, running the ball down your throat, that is exactly what they do. And
00:46:58 that's what they will do. Um, so I'm going to go under 47 and a half. Again, I might
00:47:03 change it. I'll release my full card later when I like have a second dive into it. I
00:47:07 lean Michigan. I would love if it got to three. I don't think it ever will. They've run the
00:47:13 ball McCarthy has played great in this game the last two years. So I, the McCarthy haters,
00:47:21 he had the single most important play of the game last year. They were down seven, nothing,
00:47:25 I believe. And it was third and long and they had him dead to rights. He scrambled out to
00:47:31 his left and hit a guy 30 yards downfield. I, he is a, there's certain guys who are winners.
00:47:38 He is a winner. He makes the plays when you need to make plays. It was Kate McNamara two
00:47:44 years ago, just to even better, even better, even better. I just know people will be like,
00:47:50 what the fuck? Uh, but JJ McCarthy was on the roster and I think he threw a pass. Yeah.
00:47:54 Well, yeah, he definitely saw her action. Uh, Rico, your pick two questions off of this.
00:48:01 Uh, Dave, is it true that Ev said this? So I don't know. He's fat. Is there a bulk suspense?
00:48:09 They're already talking about a bulk suspension for next year for hardball. Have you heard
00:48:13 this? I mean, the Ohio state message boards will do whatever they can. This is the most
00:48:18 pathetic excuse. I don't even know why Ohio state wants Harbaugh not to be there. It makes
00:48:27 no sense to me because if you, well, you're playing at half speed, you're getting a 50%
00:48:33 Michigan. If day loses, how does he justify this to the, to the, he's got to be gone.
00:48:38 Like third base loses. They didn't have their coach. They didn't have their coach. The most
00:48:42 important person on the field, the head coach and we don't have ours. We're playing at 50%.
00:48:51 Second question in terms of keeping the locker room together, where are you in Taylor? LaJuan
00:48:57 with this? You get, you guys get back together. I saw you. Well, that was to make sure all
00:49:01 the Michigan guys are alive. We are together. That was a crit. We actually talked about
00:49:05 that specific type tweet on this show. That's what made me saying it's a movie. Did you
00:49:11 see the tweet he had? Yeah. I had the most Epic gambling weekend ever was Steve. We'll
00:49:16 do it. I swear it was a movie. Absolute scenes. It's Epic. It was, it literally looked like
00:49:23 it was from a cool guy generator. It was ridiculous. No, I just had to point out. I mean, we just
00:49:31 talked about it. Like I almost thought it was sarcastic at first. It was that over the,
00:49:36 it's not just that it's the gambling part of it. Like I had the most gambling weekend
00:49:40 ever was Steve. We'll do it. Who I like. And I liked Taylor. No, we're together. Taylor's
00:49:45 going to be at the show. It's Michigan and to get, but that was a crazy tweeze. He's
00:49:49 Taylor's one of those football guys in you have them. They're, they're just like a year
00:49:53 or two behind on like everything. And he's just a year or two behind on like using, it
00:50:00 was a movie. Yeah. They're a little bit basic bitches. Yeah. That's okay. Epic gambling
00:50:08 weekend ever. It was a movie. Absolute scenes. All right. So Rico, what's your pick? I do
00:50:16 think you can get a better number. I feel like this game has moved significantly over
00:50:21 the years. Like I remember locking in or when we did it a while back, it was like seven.
00:50:27 It moved all the way to 10. I do think it's going to move. You're gonna get a lot of action.
00:50:31 So I think you'll get a better number, but I'm going Michigan minus the four from everything
00:50:35 I've seen in the, in the trenches. It matters more. I think Ohio state can get punched in
00:50:40 the mouth. We've watched Ohio state play two tough games. One of them against Notre Dame,
00:50:45 Notre Dame probably had that game. I don't think Notre Dame's like elite. I think Michigan
00:50:50 today's point has been holding it back just a little. It means more the fuck you attitude
00:50:55 at home. I very much could see this being decided by a field goal late cause it is a
00:51:01 war, but I will lean with the Michigan minus the four. I have a really good feeling about
00:51:05 it too. Now, Dave, we talked about this last week. Now that it is, the line is out and
00:51:11 it's minus three and a half and the money lines minus one. Yeah. Minus one 75. Is there
00:51:18 a chance there's a bomb on Michigan money line? No. One 75. What would it have to get
00:51:26 to one 40 one 75 is a like, think of that in baseball terms. If you see a minus one
00:51:33 75 you, it's basically for a, for lack of better words, like for two bucks, you get
00:51:38 one back. It's just, you can't. Yeah, you can't, you can't do it. You can't win that
00:51:42 way. You can't win that way. It is black Friday, black Friday, black Friday. We have deals,
00:51:47 deals, deals, deals, deals. Black Friday starts now or soon depending on why I post it. The
00:51:52 entire bar still store. Go to the bar still sports store. Go tonight. The bar still sports
00:51:59 store black Friday and cyber Monday. Last time it sold out like fast black Friday sales
00:52:05 still go with 20% off the entire bar stool sports store. 20% off the entire bar stool
00:52:10 sports store.
00:52:16 Cards I know there might not be full cards. We'll release them later. Uh, I know that
00:52:20 I haven't had a chance to look through the full cards. Do you have anything Rico? Uh,
00:52:27 we could do what we're thankful for quick. Usually tradition. Yeah, let's do it. You
00:52:33 go first. All right. I'm thankful. Um, for you guys, everyone here in this room, I'm
00:52:39 thankful for the listeners. We have the best job in the world. I get to do the coolest
00:52:43 fucking things in the world. And uh, I know that it's, I don't take it for granted that
00:52:48 I am one of the luckiest guys on earth. Uh, so I never take that for granted and I cherish
00:52:54 all this every, every time we get to do it. Cause I know someday we won't be doing it.
00:52:58 And uh, it's nice to be able to do the thing you love. Like even little things like Dave
00:53:03 and I just sitting in the RV on Saturdays, sweating out bets. I, even when I'm losing,
00:53:08 I'm having a good time. I guess I am not having a good time. I lose. I was yesterday I was,
00:53:14 I was so it's hard to describe how upset I was with myself watching that Utah basketball
00:53:19 team.
00:53:20 And I had to really watch my mouth. It's only money. I don't, we got our health, we got
00:53:28 our friendship. I'm telling you, the big guy thought he was Larry bird. The shots he was
00:53:33 attempting with they, I could get it if they're rimming out or like, Oh, good tough, tough
00:53:41 bounce. They weren't even close. The moves he was doing were preposterous. I've never
00:53:50 seen a college guy attempt the shots. He was routinely attempting back to the basket. Kareem
00:53:59 sky hook from like a foot inside the three point line. It was crazy.
00:54:06 It always cracks me up that this is a college football show and that is the crux of this
00:54:10 show. But the beginning of this year you have late September base baseball games where you're
00:54:16 cursing some guy on the fucking pirates. And then the later we get, we got feet like it
00:54:20 is very much the appetizer, but the, I mean the main dish, but man, those sides really
00:54:25 fucking people are telling me I have no ball. They're like, this guy's good. It's like,
00:54:30 no, I, he must've scored. They must've played a team that the tallest guy was five eight.
00:54:34 So he, but we got it. I don't know. Well, you know what is, is, is Lucas highlights
00:54:43 there?
00:54:44 Oh yeah. Can you have him get game tape of that game and put together that guy's shot
00:54:50 collection please? And put a soundtrack to it. Done. Um, I have one last thing I'm thankful
00:54:56 for. I'm thankful that at least from my understanding at the discussion at the beginning of the
00:55:00 show, Rico has no issue with me. It's only the new dog. I will say this top five most
00:55:14 controversial things we've done I think is coming up. I don't know how our audience is
00:55:20 going to react when we air surviving Barstool, which airs after cyber Monday, but he put
00:55:28 your seatbelts on. It's not for the faint of heart.
00:55:32 The landscape is going to be different. A lot different in like a month. Yeah, it was
00:55:37 a quite something. Well Rico, can I, can I ask you the emotional, is there any chance
00:55:42 that I can get the old dog, new dog playing again together?
00:55:48 The new dog cut the old dog off. So I got to tell her on a different planet. That's
00:55:53 what it was. All right. So I got to, I got to talk to the new dog. I'm gonna get the
00:55:57 new dog to be like, Hey, the old dog wants to play catch every now and then we'll come
00:56:01 bring over it. Let's fucking stuffy to the riders and Jerry's army can't be fighting
00:56:04 because this is what happens. I get caught in the middle where I'm like, well damn Rico
00:56:08 really didn't want me to win a hundred thousand dollars. That's crazy. It's not true. It's
00:56:12 not true. Okay. So again, it's, you know, it's don't come like, I don't even know if
00:56:18 I should say no because last time I did it, I didn't put myself in a good spot.
00:56:23 Say it all gets there. Grievances. Go ahead.
00:56:36 Sometimes it feels like the two dogs do the exact same kind of thing and one gets gloated
00:56:45 as all how cute that was. And the other one, you're just rolling up the newspaper. It's
00:56:49 like, you know, like, like we're in a clip business. Did I look like an idiot when I
00:56:54 went to UCF? Yeah, absolutely. That gets like knocked plays in a Sicilian celebrity softball
00:57:03 game. It couldn't be any better. I knocked him for the celebrity softball game. He kept
00:57:08 on saying he's hit the home run and I was like, you didn't hit a fucking, he also took
00:57:11 a week for a one day event. He did. And I knocked him for that.
00:57:16 It might be, it's like the old older child versus younger child. The older child has
00:57:22 to deal with it. You know, my researcher, let me help you. And by the time the younger
00:57:25 child comes around, the parents are like, whatever, who gives a fuck? Let me help you,
00:57:29 but uh, I think maybe the difference that you were missing is the new dog rolls with
00:57:35 the punches a lot better than the old dog. He can, the new dog can be the butt of the
00:57:42 joke and have fun with it. The old dog doesn't like being the butt of the joke.
00:57:50 Dave impartial judge. I think I'm roll. I'm making fun of myself quite a bit more than
00:57:55 the, the, the, the, the old dog has definitely gone to school and in the wearing the shock
00:58:05 collar, he's, he's chilled out. The old dog, seemingly people who used to be afraid to
00:58:12 give him treats because they'd lose a finger are now giving them treats and you know, like,
00:58:17 Oh, he's really, he's, he's turned over new leaf and he still has those crazy. Uh, they
00:58:23 may bring them, they may, they may bring them to the park and maybe let them off leash.
00:58:30 The mailman comes down the driveway. I still have those moments, the moments on the stream.
00:58:34 Those do well like that. No, those are going nuts. You just can't threaten people's lives
00:58:38 from my owner. Wait. So, but I think the old dog just, whenever the old dog gets a compliment,
00:58:43 he doesn't even see it because he's so focused on the old dog. That clip of the old dog losing
00:58:48 with the Buffalo, uh, uh, uh, survivor league was an all time clip. I told the old dog to
00:58:53 his face that the old dog doesn't really internalize compliments. So he then said, why aren't you
00:58:58 complimenting? It's a, in all honesty, it's a, it's a T guy issue more than a RB guy issue.
00:59:07 Got it. The T guy, we're working on like the T man doesn't see the compliments because
00:59:13 that is, I do think that we compliment you a decent amount. It's just hard for the T
00:59:18 guy to internalize that the RB guy is getting. Yeah. Well, it's excellent. It's excellent.
00:59:24 I mean, I do try to Excel. So like, yeah, it's fucked up that I go Bosco story. Yeah.
00:59:31 We ain't going for second place Dave. No. And in the winning culture. So like, yeah,
00:59:39 I hope, you know, I, yeah, there's a couple of things you hear, but I always see the bad
00:59:43 one.
00:59:44 Yeah. I know. Is that kind of fucked up? Yeah. Kill the T man. We got to kill the T man.
00:59:49 That's what we got to do. We already tried that. The T man also like, I think T man's
00:59:54 like, why am I not getting any shine? The T man forgets that the RB man got Dave to
00:59:59 do a one week subscribe-a-thon to his new show that no other show in the history of
01:00:04 barstool has ever gotten. And the RB man should realize that that's, that's a lot of shine.
01:00:12 Yeah. Has never complained about that. Nor ask for that. Dave did it more as for the
01:00:17 J man. No, he did it for the J man. What I'm saying when other people get shine and you're
01:00:21 like they don't, they don't pay attention to the old dog. It's like, here's an example
01:00:25 of the old dog getting all the belly scratches. I like he moves that leg to let go. So I scratched
01:00:32 right. He was screaming. His leg was going all week, but then you get to another week
01:00:36 and he's like, well, why are you looking at that puppy? It's like Rick or sorry, RB man.
01:00:42 We were literally getting your leg going for an entire week. Yeah. I'm thankful for, for
01:00:50 the RB man and maybe the T man. I don't know. T man's rough. T man is a T man is selfish
01:01:02 prick sometimes, but the RB man I like arts. What are you thankful for Dave? What was that
01:01:10 face? Dave's shutting it down. He's at it. He's at it. No, no. What were you thankful
01:01:13 for Rico? He's right. Uh, stabilized mental health. Like I think I'm still crazy, but
01:01:19 I've stabilized it. Second chances. The fact that what? We'll wait past second. Okay. Uh,
01:01:29 let's stay together. Let's roll out that leg. Let's stay together. Stay together. Stay together.
01:01:35 Okay. Yeah. Um, being able that people give a shit about you talking about sports, my
01:01:42 lifelong dream and the fact that we've done 10 years and we now have the biggest, uh,
01:01:47 game ever. Like watching a big game is something to be thankful for. I cannot wait for Saturday
01:01:52 at 12 o'clock. Yes. It's going to be great. Dave, what are you thankful for? I'm thankful
01:02:04 that we got the company back. You know, that's a good thing. Everyone's happy. It's well,
01:02:08 not really, but it's, it's how I like, like, I don't want people like Kumbaya around here.
01:02:15 I want, I want it on the verge of an explosion. Um, and you know, that's what I'm thankful
01:02:20 for that. It feels like we're in a volatile spot, uh, and it could explode at a minute.
01:02:27 So I am thankful that, and obviously I'm thankful, uh, for however, um, the sporting gods have
01:02:35 decided to do it, that I'm rerunning the Patriots playbook right now with Michigan. Um, this
01:02:43 is kind of crazy. So that's great. People don't realize how like exact this is. It's,
01:02:51 it's, I was explaining to someone the other day, I was like, you have to understand that
01:02:56 Dave is in the mindset right now that if like a stranger on the street just starts debating
01:03:03 him, he will stand there for an hour and talk Michigan and, and Connor stallions and all
01:03:07 this stuff. He is so deep in it and it's the best cause that's the best content. And you
01:03:11 have more time to like the deflate gate only happened whatever a couple of days before
01:03:15 Superbowl week you've had like a month and a half for this one. No deflate gate was Colts.
01:03:21 He had two weeks. No, they beat somebody. Colts wasn't the AFC championship was it?
01:03:28 Yeah, it was. I think. Yeah, it was. Was it? Yeah. Wait, no, it wasn't. That was the first
01:03:35 round playoffs. No deflate gate. Yeah. Deflate in two weeks. And then deflate gate went on
01:03:40 and you get suspension for a year or so. I mean, yeah, it was 2014. Uh, if it was, no,
01:03:49 the flake gate was, they beat the Colts 40 to nothing. It was the 2014 AFC championship.
01:03:56 Oh, I thought you were saying it was 20 to 14 was the school. No, no. Yeah. Got it. Um,
01:04:01 okay. Caught 45 seven. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That game. Uh, all right. Cards. Dave. All right.
01:04:08 I like old miss minus 11. It's mistake. I think mistakes. Thanks. Arkansas plus seven
01:04:12 and a half at home against Missouri Arkansas has played most teams tough. They just gave
01:04:16 Pittman another year. I think. Um, yep. Texas minus 13 and a half at home against Texas
01:04:21 tech. I think Texas totally different team home road. Uh, Michigan already gave that
01:04:27 over LSU, a and M 66 and a half. Um, Northwestern plus five and a half against Illinois Northwest
01:04:34 just keeps winning. That was easiest. More lock last week. Uh, Arizona, uh, minus 12
01:04:40 and a half on the road against Arizona state. This was one of the worst bets I ever made
01:04:43 in this game. I don't remember which team I took, but they lost by 70 literally. Oh
01:04:48 yes. Friday. I feel like they played it on a Friday night. It was 60 to nothing before
01:04:53 you blinked. It was a, it was unbelievable. I feel like it was a Thursday night or a Friday
01:04:59 night. Arizona. And I think Arizona state literally hung 70. How many years? You know,
01:05:05 what's crazy is Jaden Daniels might've been involved in that game. No, I don't think he
01:05:10 was. Okay. I feel like it was within the last, it was like three years ago, four years ago,
01:05:16 worst game ever. Uh, Florida plus six and a half at home against FSU. We talked about
01:05:20 that. I like K state minus 11 and a half at home against Iowa state. I was saying things
01:05:24 in case they had home better. Um, so that's my card. Okay. Rico. Uh, whatever I said,
01:05:32 Jack, you pull it up. Uh, cause I didn't write them down. Ohio minus 13 and a half against
01:05:37 Akron. I think they roll Memphis minus the 12 against temple Memphis first half, uh,
01:05:43 Michigan minus three and a half. That's a borderline lock B Y I'm gonna take BYU plus
01:05:47 the 17 and a half against Oak state. I think they keep it close. Uh, that one's gonna be
01:05:52 a lock and FSU Florida under 51 and a half. Okay. I am a, I have to do my whole card.
01:05:59 I have had no time. I went from the office to the office. Dave, you ready? Yeah. December
01:06:06 11th, 2020 Arizona state 70 to seven. Yeah. I had, I bet big on Arizona in that game.
01:06:15 What was the score at the end of the first quarter? 35 nothing. Something insane. I'm
01:06:19 about to pull it up. Yeah. I mean, every play they scored, it was nuts every year. It was
01:06:24 wild. It was 21 zero at the end of the first quarter. That's all I thought was worse. What
01:06:29 was that? A halftime? Uh, 42 to seven. Yeah, it was. So Jaden Daniels, nine of 11, 203
01:06:36 yards, two TDS. It was Jaden Daniels. Yeah, that was brutal. I remember that one. That
01:06:42 was a tough one. Uh, my OSU lock. I mean that, that, that spread wasn't that great. You guys
01:06:47 talking about bad picks. I think that was my mortal. It was off by 70. Yeah, that was
01:06:53 a bad one. Yeah, I do remember that. And I think I might've rode with you. What was the
01:06:58 final score? 70 to one seven, seven 77. Every play was a touchdown. It was crazy. You know
01:07:07 what else is fucking insane about that year? That was their first win of the fucking year.
01:07:13 They lost the USC by with that COVID shit. They started in November. They played two
01:07:17 games to that point and that was their first win of the season. Jesus made them one and
01:07:22 two fucking insane. Um, okay. Rego, do you like Gonzaga today by the way? Uh, I think
01:07:31 that I like Edie. Edie's a friend, but uh, this kid EK for Gonzaga is slept on. He's
01:07:37 an animal for Wyoming two years ago when he was healthy. He didn't play a fucking second
01:07:42 last year. He's back. He's at the average 18 to nine at Wyoming. He's been putting up
01:07:46 numbers for them. I think he could give Edie some problems. Uh, it's Gonzaga getting the
01:07:51 five. Yeah, I would leave with Gonzaga. I like Utah state too. Tonight sprinkle outright.
01:07:57 He beats Akron. Um, okay. And Tennessee Syracuse under every, I know they said that game's
01:08:04 going to fly over. I think Tennessee's going to play some defense and fucking smudge people.
01:08:08 They are in Honolulu. They're, they're not in Maui cause obviously the fires are in Honolulu
01:08:12 this year. Uh, okay. My lock of the week, let's do locks. Uh, my lock of the week. I
01:08:17 am, I told our good friend Will Compton that I would do this for him. I'm going to take
01:08:22 Nebraska minus one and a half weird line movement. They started as a dog. Now they're a favorite.
01:08:28 Nebraska's got everything to play for. I was got nothing to play for in the fact that they
01:08:31 are already in the big 10 championship game. Nebraska is trying to play for a bowl game.
01:08:38 Uh, Matt rule was maybe the biggest pussy coach of all time against the Badgers on Saturday
01:08:42 night. Wisconsin ended up covering an overtime. I don't know if you guys had eyes on that
01:08:46 game. No, we did. I did not. Yeah, I would imagine you didn't. They had, well, I saw
01:08:51 you, I followed a little bit. You said you were dead and I just assumed it was 14. Nothing.
01:08:55 It was 14, nothing quick than the bat. The Badgers were the better team, but Nebraska
01:09:01 had, I think two timeouts, uh, with like a minute and a half left. They got to about
01:09:06 the 30 and they just played for a field goal. Like it was, I've never seen anything like
01:09:10 it played for overtime, lost in overtime. I don't really understand that, but they have
01:09:15 everything to play for. They got to try to get to a bowl game. First bowl game in a long
01:09:18 time for Nebraska. Uh, I'm going to take Nebraska minus one and a half against Iowa. Dave, your
01:09:24 lock to things. When you talk live movement, Dan, I texted you before that Utah game. That
01:09:30 was crazy that I was following the line in Utah. St. John's the entire day. It went,
01:09:36 it started at four and a half. St. John's went to five. My, uh, it was four minus four
01:09:42 and a half Utah. Like a couple hours. I saw it moved to five, couple hours later, moved
01:09:47 to five and a half Utah minus stayed there. The game was late on a tip off because it's
01:09:53 one of those things that somebody played there before a minute and a half before the game
01:09:57 tipped it, it dropped the full point. Somebody went house on St. John's. I knew as a tech
01:10:04 thing, I go, this just moved a full point 30 seconds before tip. It's a loser. Somebody
01:10:08 knows something. Um, my mortal walk, I keep doing it. I think Northwest and beats Illinois
01:10:13 Northwest. I don't understand these Northwest lights. You were out on them so early in the
01:10:18 year. It's crazy that they've rallied. They rallied. What's the line there? Plus five
01:10:22 and a half at Illinois. They just keep beating people. I'll take them again. Yeah, no, they,
01:10:31 they it's, and if they don't win, it's going to be like a last second field goal on an
01:10:34 ugly ass game. Neither team can blow out the other. Yeah. Uh, Rico, Arizona, Arizona state
01:10:41 over 50 and a half. I just watched Arizona state get rocked by, uh, Oregon. I think Arizona
01:10:47 state moves the ball. Uh, I think this game goes over fairly easy. Watch Arizona state
01:10:52 get rocked by Utah. I think shit, Arizona might score the 50 themselves. So I'm a, I'm
01:10:57 going with that over 50. Uh, Ibo, I'm going to take a lot of Washington, Washington state
01:11:04 under 67. He's taking Washington, Washington state under 67 and a half. Jack, a Bama minus
01:11:10 15 and a minus 15. Zoopy. I'm going with the Buckeyes plus three and a half. So who, uh,
01:11:17 Hank, I'll never learn his name. I've taken Michigan. I love the, uh, I love the defend
01:11:25 the wall storyline. I want to see, uh, okay. And then Liam, uh, less to a and M over, uh,
01:11:33 66 and a half. Ooh, I like that. I like that. Austin, you want to do a pick? Nope. Okay.
01:11:41 All right. Good. Pick them, pick them schedule a rest of the season. We're going to do a
01:11:46 championship week, obviously pick them. And then we will have, uh, I think the, the surviving
01:11:51 barstool finale is live. So we don't know who won, uh, and it will be in Chicago. So
01:11:57 we will do a, the final bowl season, pick them with all three of us together. Um, Rico,
01:12:03 if I negotiate this piece between the old dog and new dog, I should be up for noble
01:12:06 prize.
01:12:07 There's not much of a beef with it's I got cut off. He cut me off. All right, we'll get
01:12:13 a dinner on Monday. Yeah, sure. Yes. I'd love that. Wow. All right. Huge. See you guys.
01:12:22 Huge. All right. See you guys next week. The great Thanksgiving.
01:12:26 Oh,
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