00:00But since we are talking about resolving issue-to-issue issues,
00:03there is an issue in the KPK between the CM and the PTI.
00:10And you have used very interesting words.
00:13We have been cut and given benefits to others.
00:15That is, you have been cut and the PTI has been given to the KPK.
00:18And you are saying that the People's Party has been given benefits in Sindh.
00:22So, the issue here is the CM's chair.
00:26You see, he will be able to stay for a long time
00:28because yesterday the Governor of the KPK was with me
00:30and he was saying that the CM will not be able to sit on his chair for a long time.
00:34What do you see?
00:41Since I have a double responsibility at the moment,
00:45as a political worker,
00:47and I have to take a committee with me.
00:52So, I have to be a little careful while discussing this.
00:56But here in Pakistan, when there are governments,
01:00whether they are of the provinces or of Wafaaq,
01:03there are a lot of problems in many places.
01:07And certainly, despite this,
01:10the Governor has a relationship with D. I. Khan,
01:14the CM has a relationship with him,
01:16the Maulana has a relationship with him,
01:18and we also have reservations about that relationship.
01:22But still, it will be difficult for him to move forward.
01:26I think so.
01:28As a political worker, I say that
01:30Gandapur Sahib will have a little,
01:32not a little, but perhaps a little more problems.
01:35And what can these problems be, Senator?
01:38Why will these problems arise?
01:40Because of JUI or for some other reason?
01:43Look, you are Khyber Pakhton.
01:45No, JUI is not creating any problem at the moment.
01:48Look, we had a ceasefire at the time
01:51when Imran Khan Sahib went into custody.
01:54So, Maulana Sahib had said that
01:56the person who goes into custody,
01:58we don't want to talk against him.
02:00Despite this, we kept talking,
02:02we kept having discussions,
02:04but we did not respond.
02:06Even now, because we want to move forward
02:09in the space of mutual understanding,
02:11and we want the distance between workers to be reduced,
02:14to be further reduced,
02:16but still, there is a long way to go,
02:19there is a long journey that we have to go,
02:22we have to get closer to each other.
02:24So, you want to reduce the distance between workers.
02:27Are we deducing from this that
02:29both the parties will come together
02:31for a rally or protest,
02:33if we want to reduce the distance between workers?
02:35Because JUI has the street power.
02:40Look, this is still premature.
02:43Our old experience with our old friends,
02:48the result of which was that
02:50the seats we had at that time,
02:53despite leading the whole union,
02:56despite everything,
02:58we reduced half the seats.
03:02The number of friends increased and we decreased.
03:05So, we don't have such an experience in our minds right now
03:08that we don't want to reduce our size any further
03:11and we don't want to give our shoulders to others.
03:16So, in short, you will not become anyone's ally.
03:19Is that true, Mr. Kamran Murtaza?
03:21Is this what you are trying to say?
03:24I would say that we are not rent-a-crowd.
03:27Very interesting.
03:29Mr. Kamran, let's come to the issue of legislation.
03:32Earlier, there was a suspicion that
03:34the session that has been called this time
03:36should be legislated on the basis of justice.
03:38Then the government said that
03:40there is no such plan.
03:42So, what is the first agenda
03:44that you have put forward
03:46on parliamentary issues
03:48that you have decided to work together?
03:54See, you understand that
03:56the government itself left a feeler
03:58that they are bringing a package
04:00which they come to you in the media
04:02and deny in electronic media
04:04as well as in print media.
04:06But the feeler came from there.
04:08That there is a package,
04:10a constitutional package
04:12which they have kept hidden.
04:14There were also some things
04:16about the term of employment.
04:18So, in this regard,
04:20we have come together
04:22with the PTI.
04:24The initiative that you have taken
04:26or the initial stage
04:28is in this regard
04:30that we collectively
04:32have a thought of theirs
04:34and we have a thought of ours.
04:36And we try to move forward.
04:38If such a package goes,
04:40then as a community
04:42sitting in opposition,
04:44what do we have to do?
04:46What do they have to do?
04:48Can we two communities
04:50take such a position together?
04:52Can we not take it?
04:54Which is right in our opinion?
04:56Which is right in their opinion?
04:58Is it wrong in our opinion?
05:00Is it wrong in their opinion?
05:02And can we move forward?
05:04These are the terms of reference
05:06at this time.
05:08Right.
05:10Last question, Mr. Kamran.
05:12And this is a hypothetical question.
05:14I know you avoid hypothetical questions.
05:16But still,
05:18with your permission,
05:20I will put forward.
05:22How long do you think
05:24this alliance
05:26between you and PTI
05:28is going on?
05:31I refuse to call it an alliance.
05:33There is no alliance.
05:35We are two different communities.
05:37Even the PTI part of the alliance,
05:39we are not even a part of that.
05:41We are two different communities.
05:43But as a community
05:45sitting in opposition,
05:47we, both the communities,
05:49have decided to move
05:51to the parliamentary side
05:53together.
05:55But all that is issue-based.
05:57It is related to every agenda.
06:00If there is any alliance
06:02in someone's mind,
06:04that we will
06:06bring our street powers
06:08to the streets
06:10as a result
06:12of some incident,
06:14then all these things
06:16are premature.
06:18It can be possible.
06:20But at this time,
06:22it is not a part of it.
06:24Got your point.
06:26But how long do you see
06:28this alliance going on?
06:30Do you see an expiry date?
06:32No, we do not want an expiry.
06:34As long as
06:36these assemblies exist,
06:38if some assemblies
06:40end before this,
06:42then we might be
06:44competing with each other.
06:46We have competed with
06:48NUNS in the past.
06:50We have competed with
06:52the People's Party.
06:54We have a place,
06:56so it is possible
06:58that we might compete with each other.
07:00Soon or later?
07:02It is possible.
07:04No, we want to move forward.
07:06We want to move forward
07:08with full seriousness.
07:10And it is not that
07:12we do not want to move forward.
07:14As long as I have not taken
07:16instructions,
07:18I do not want to move forward.
