00:00I'm it's 2026 that's kind of not a thing sorry Jeremy Otto's update is fabulous Brendan Shabath
00:06in for Rico Corbin in for Paul and David and I are here is the two old known as LeBron
00:14James
00:14has a what this is what I mean I love the player I would kill to have him on the
00:19Pistons I loathe
00:21the human oh it's like Drake yeah what on earth they're sending I'm sorry why don't we just send
00:27a raven as if it's game of thrones like now voice memos maybe maybe Corbin can show up with his
00:34little bible and read his note recite LeBron I wrote a haiku for you I'm speechless LeBron will always
00:42find a way to anger me I was I was just shocked it was in the update on this voice
00:48memos it goes
00:49further than that because uh Bob Myers who is running the 76ers then went on Rich Paul's podcast
00:56to then pitch the 76ers to him on the podcast hey hey if you you know what we just did
01:02fair
01:02fall part one fair fall part two that features Rich Paul's podcast all right we'll get to it I'm sure
01:08it's a hit um okay we'll get some of the phone calls but you demanded we bring something up and
01:15when people do the show with me I am I'm always open to it you were passionate about this and
01:19I think
01:19it's worth bringing up in the mix because we started with more difficult situation Iserman or
01:25Harris as it pertains to Larkin and Scoogle and every day the Tigers win I think Harris's spot gets
01:32more difficult I digress you you have something different yes my pitch was that there is a third
01:39situation in this city that I would argue is equally as difficult to navigate for the general manager as it
01:48is for Scott Harris and for Steve Iserman and that is for the second team that plays at Little
01:54Caesars Arena not the PWHL the Detroit Pistons and Trajan Langdon because we have a situation where
02:03Jalen Duren who averaged 20 points and 10 rebounds in the regular season and fell off a cliff in the
02:08postseason wants in the area of roughly 45 to 50 million dollars as a restricted free agent
02:18so Duren tried to do the thing a couple weeks ago where he said oh well I'm gonna go find
02:23sign in
02:24trade offers and uh how'd that work out Walker Kessler got paid 150 million dollars and you were
02:29left with nothing and so now there is nobody across the league who is going to give an offer to
02:37Jalen
02:37Duren that will force the Pistons to match but here's the situation the Pistons want Jalen Duren
02:46but they don't want to pay him 50 million dollars however you have 22 year old Jalen Duren who's
02:54polishing his all-star jersey who wants that salary so if you're Trajan Langdon it's very simple you
03:03have all the leverage in the world you've already given the qualifying offer which is less than 10
03:06million it's like nine and a half Duren's not coming back for that and if he does just for people
03:11who don't understand the ridiculous CBA and the NBA what Brendan is saying is if he signed that offer
03:17he's an unrestricted free agent at the end of next year so he could take way less money bet on
03:23himself
03:24and flip you the bird I just want for people to understand what that means and the amount of risk
03:28that goes into that situation with what David might experience when we talk about it a little bit later
03:34is a torn rotator cuff or a sprained ankle or some sort of injury that he goes through that might
03:41hinder his value in unrestricted free agency at the end of next year so the Pistons can have Jalen
03:47Duren accept a qualifying offer and he can bet on himself which is never going to happen his agent is
03:51certainly not uh vouching for that it's way less than uh what we had originally believed or Langdon can
03:58say you can accept the qualifying offer or you can accept this offer for 25 million for 30 million
04:04whatever it is that Duren absolutely does not want to do he's gone to the end of the world he's
04:11at the
04:11very end of what his options are to find the money that he thinks he's owed so he can accept
04:18the 25
04:18million dollar offer that the Pistons offer him for four or five years whatever it is question again but
04:23do you want to bring back a player who is going to be scorned and upset for getting paid roughly
04:30half
04:30of what they think they're owed no but I didn't want him here in the first place because this is
04:34the Dylan Larkin situation all over again yeah you don't want to bring back a guy who doesn't want to
04:39be here no yes you do it's Detroit that's what we do that's who we are that is why I
04:44think Langdon
04:45is in an equally tough spot because I don't know how you handle this no I think Langdon's in a
04:49tough
04:49spot because he had a dog water off season see this could have all been avoided the minute you
04:54weren't going to get a deal done you needed to get this guy out of here but he made a
04:59huge mistake
04:59his mistake a was ever going to a microphone because that's an immediate audio coma second of all he
05:07listed his big three and the minute you do that Kate a sword during now you're locked into it you're
05:15not going to turn around and become Brad Stevens so look I I I could appreciate the difficulty of
05:22the situation but maybe if he had had a better offseason this would just take care of itself
05:26do I do I think Dern's going to be pumped up to come back absolutely not absolutely not and I
05:32said this
05:33Enrico got all mad at me the minute he flirted with Sacramento I thought less of him because then
05:39that's you saying winning isn't the thing and I'm literally willing to end my career just to get
05:46another Bentley makes me think less of him so look I don't know are you asking me do I want
05:51him back
05:51my answer was no by game three of the Orlando series I'm just different but for people this is a
05:58better
05:58question because they're the ones who caped up for this guy they're the ones who are like what are you
06:02talking about he's an all-star and he's 22 and it's okay cool here's what they think about you
06:09nobody was willing to offer you even an offer sheet they weren't even willing to put a sheet
06:16out there the Lakers decided to give up things to get Walker Kessler versus pay you Sacramento
06:24they didn't even bother and your agent by the way is out here doing whatever it takes oh he wants
06:31to
06:31do a sign and trade with Boston right and I'm Diana Ross 10 minutes after that report
06:39the Celtics paid five dollars and a biscuit for Mitchell Robinson so Brennan you're not wrong
06:44but this is something this town doesn't want to talk about well Mike to boost your point about the
06:50winning power when he flirted with Sacramento was that you have Victor Wimbayama today just reported
06:57that he's going to sign his extension but he's going to take less than what he can take on the
07:01on
07:02his maximum rookie scale extension because he wants greater financial flexibility for his team and you
07:07know why because the guy that just beat him in the finals did that correct Jalen Brunson yes
07:12and now we have Durin instead who can't seem to look at himself in the mirror and notice that we
07:19can
07:19all see his numbers were slashed in half when it all mattered the most and say you know what maybe
07:25I
07:25don't need 50 million dollars maybe I take the 25 and in four years I'm twice the player I am
07:33now
07:33and then I can get the big contract and you can get 400 million but instead he's crippling the
07:39Pistons front office disagree no now no I'm going to use your phrase I want to push back on that
07:45hold on a minute here he ain't crippling nothing Langdon and the analytics people
07:52galoolied themselves they were busy saving a bunch of money and did nothing with it they were the ones
07:58who maneuvered got out of some pieces and never had what it took to pull the trigger on a real
08:03move
08:03well they saved all the money too late everybody was gone by then at the listen Langdon right now
08:08unless this really turns around he looks like a lightweight I don't want to hear about being a
08:13bridesmaid it is not a job of try it's a job of do but my point about Durin crippling the
08:20front
08:20office is I don't know where they go from here because either you pay him double essentially what you
08:28think he's worth and put him back out there the guy that I don't know that anyone in this city
08:34trust to perform in the playoffs where you're trying to get back to and even go beyond the
08:39second round next year or you bring him back you force him you make him bend at the knee and
08:45force
08:45him to come back for 50% of what he thinks he's worth and now he's pissed off the whole
08:49year which
08:50also too is hilarious to be pissed about 25 million a year when you got stuffed in a locker in
08:56the
08:56playoffs but I digress what does Wendell Carter make 10 but that's that's that's that's the point
09:04so where do they go from here that's why I think the front office is in such a difficult situation
09:10I don't have an answer hey we got Isaiah Joe watch your mouth hey he could shoot I know but
09:14he's a
09:14bench player this is what I mean had they had the write-off season this becomes a non-story I
09:20don't
09:20care I think I think he got outplayed to your point about showing that he's a lightweight I
09:26think he thought he was going to get Tyler Hero I think he thought he was going to get Austin
09:29Reeves
09:30I think he thought he's going to be involved in the Giannis situation hell maybe he thinks he's
09:34going to get LeBron still I don't know but it seemed like the big move that everybody was waiting for
09:39slipped past him while everything was going on
09:42do you truly noted I bet that's my point fingers how does it go I think you get something done
09:49in
09:50training camp he has some cooling off period here maybe it's five at 125 I mean I I don't have
09:58a
09:58better answer I there's no look if he took the qualifying offer it would tell you he hates being
10:03here yeah I don't expect that to happen but man if he had that if he took that offer
10:11he don't want beer and I'm I'm glad Trajan has drawn a line I just wish he would have drawn
10:16a
10:16line that led him out of town I don't need to I don't but now that you dealt beef stew
10:22and you're
10:23going to elevate b-ball Paul you're not in business of getting smaller but I think he comes back and
10:30I
10:30think he's going to be pissed see and that's the thing because you're talking about a tough position
10:33Langdon put himself in that position he shouldn't have done that if you know the guy's not going to
10:38take what you're going to offer him ship him out find a move early on in free agency set it
10:45up
10:45to where you know what you're not going to take it so bye-bye he put himself in a tough
10:50position
10:50and I'm not going to feel sad for him and Steve Iserman also put himself in a tough position and
10:57that's where sensing a theme the genesis of the Pistons working their way into this conversation of
11:04who's got the difficult decision I think theirs is just as equally hard as Scott Harris and Steve
11:09Iserman 248-539-9797 we'll get to your phone calls coming up next
