00:00It took me a minute because I knew like I know so well that they got a new stadium, but
00:03it's like, man, this looks like European.
00:06And then I saw the video boards ago. The video boards aren't that small. What's the matter with the video
00:10boards?
00:10And then I just started paying to Josh and paying attention to Josh Allen, just roasting the Lions defense and
00:16their offense sputtering with the lights.
00:18I know they ended up putting up 31 by the end because I only watched the first half.
00:21I rolled over. It was the second quarter. I wanted to see what the stadium looked like.
00:25Yeah, it was already like 27 to 7 or something. And I watched Jared Goff get two balls batted down
00:32on the line.
00:33I was like, OK, I know what's going to happen for us this game.
00:35It was it was beautiful. Obviously, they they have red and blue, which helps.
00:40If you're a patriot like I am, you appreciate those colors. But it is beautiful.
00:46Like the colors, the way that it looks like the stadium is really compact.
00:50And it says it's 60,000. I mean, we're 67. We used to be like 73.
00:56It looked like a sea of people. It was actually and they're on top of each other.
00:59And it doesn't look like there's a bad seat in the house.
01:02Yeah, it was. It was really cool. It looked like it was.
01:04I'm sure there's going to be some complaints or something like that.
01:06It was nice. And it also helped the Josh Allen was amazing.
01:10Their offense was amazing. They lost DJ Moore.
01:13DJ Moore got hurt. Then immediately the Jerry Judy tweet started.
01:17Make him an offer. Make him an offer.
01:19Oh, OK. I didn't see that. Please, please go. I'm serious.
01:24If Andrew's listening, I'm sure you've already talked to him.
01:28Talk to him again.
01:29Yeah, normally.
01:30Is it Brandon Bean who's still the GM up there?
01:32Normally, I'd be like.
01:33I might be having a brain fart.
01:34Do you really want to put more of an onus on our rookie and second year pass catchers?
01:40But in this case, yeah, I'm with you.
01:42It's still Brandon Bean.
01:43You've made deals with him before when it comes to wide receivers.
01:46That's a good point.
01:46Make another deal. Send him on up there.
01:49God bless him. Don't need to worry about it anymore.
01:52Just give me Denzel Boston.
01:53Give me Casey Concepcion.
01:56You know what? You want to throw Jimmy Horn Jr. in there?
01:58You're probably going to throw him in there soon enough anyway.
02:00So go ahead and throw him in there because you know who's probably going to.
02:02Excuse me.
02:03You know who I say start next week.
02:05Yeah.
02:05So you might as well get the rapport back and send Jerry off.
02:10If you can get a second rounder for Jerry Judy again, we're talking laser eyes.
02:15I saw, and it's one of those all-time sliding doors, debatable guys at a bar
02:21having fruitless conversation arguments.
02:25But obviously, the Deshaun Watson thing is going up in infamy.
02:28It's always going to be brought up as the worst thing ever.
02:30Somebody opined yesterday on social media.
02:33I wish I could give him credit. I'll figure it out.
02:35Somebody was like, you know what? It's not the worst.
02:38The worst was passing up Josh Allen.
02:40And I know we'll never know.
02:41Would Josh Allen have been Josh Allen?
02:42It'll be something we'll always do.
02:44Would Patrick Mahomes have been Patrick Mahomes in Cleveland?
02:47But I cannot believe.
02:48Do you realize in two games, Josh Allen has nine touchdowns accounted for?
02:55He's got a few on the ground.
02:58He's got five.
02:59He's got three on the ground.
03:00Five.
03:00No, four on the ground already and five through the air.
03:03Either way, he's got nine total.
03:05Deshaun Watson, you have to go back nine full games.
03:08How many years is that for him?
03:10Oh, you're right.
03:11If it's nine games, it's got to be four years.
03:1452 years.
03:15He's got nine touchdowns in his last nine games total.
03:17In two games, he's got more production.
03:21And I know, no Super Bowl for Josh Allen.
03:24He hasn't been there.
03:25He got robbed of one he definitely should have gone to.
03:26He's had others where it was his fault.
03:29It's all revisionist history, man.
03:31Of course.
03:31You know what?
03:31I really do want to talk about it.
03:32I know we just got made fun of by our boss for talking about the good old days.
03:35Referencing a couple of other guys.
03:36The other revisionist history is where are we if we never move on from Baker?
03:41Well, that's the whole thing.
03:41I don't know.
03:42It's still a better conversation.
03:44Like, I was asked that yesterday at football practice.
03:46Like, before practice.
03:47Like, we all sit around the shed.
03:48Kind of, you know, chewing the fat.
03:51Kids are running around.
03:52Listen to the bare naked ladies.
03:53I have it blaring out of there.
03:55I mean, you set the tone for practice is what you do.
03:58And I got that question asked.
04:00And it was like, yeah, you know, it was still.
04:03We'd still be in a better spot than what we are now.
04:06I understand that things were not good.
04:07I understand that there were definitely some peccadillos outside of football.
04:12I understand that.
04:13But we would still be in a better spot.
04:16And I have no idea if he'd still be even on this football team.
04:19I just know Deshaun Watson wouldn't be.
04:21Because there was a move that was going to be made.
04:23And, again, we were the first team out.
04:25So, if you just would have held on to him.
04:27I can't guarantee that Baker Mayfield would still be with the Cleveland Browns.
04:30I don't know.
04:30That I don't know.
04:31Yeah, I don't know either.
04:31And that's rarely said.
04:34But I know that Deshaun Watson wouldn't be.
04:36And I know that people wouldn't be saying that they're not raising their kids Browns fans.
04:40Like, that's.
04:40You understand?
04:41Like, there's something that rolls off here.
04:44Where it plays into your psyche.
04:46For Josh Allen.
04:48Which is weird.
04:48I was texting his coach this morning about it.
04:50Because you said that before the show.
04:51And I go, I want you to text Josh Allen and let him know.
04:54That at 540 in the morning.
04:55Coast and Cleveland are counting the amount of touchdowns that he has just in two games.
04:59Compared to the last nine of Deshaun Watson.
05:02And that's over the course of multiple years, obviously, as we know.
05:05That's how not good things are here.
05:07Which he laughed his ass off.
05:08And rightfully so.
05:10But.
05:11If you would have taken Josh.
05:14The question is, would Josh Allen be Josh Allen?
05:17Would he be him?
05:21No.
05:26Like, the Bills and the Browns shared a lot of like, hey, we had Bernie.
05:30You had Jim Kelly.
05:31You got more years out of Jim Kelly.
05:33They had just made the playoffs with Terod Taylor.
05:36Oh, that's right.
05:37Yeah, but did nobody.
05:38Yeah, because they remember there was the wing bowl thing that they did.
05:42Yeah.
05:42Yeah, but did you take him seriously?
05:44No.
05:45I mean, they sent him to Cleveland.
05:46Yeah, they were a better organization, though.
05:48That's true.
05:50Okay, so then I have to ask.
05:52I've crunched the numbers.
05:53What?
05:541,700.
05:55Or 1,078 days.
05:59Since Deshaun Watson has thrown those nine touchdowns.
06:03Since he started throwing them?
06:05Since it was scoring nine touchdowns.
06:08Oh, my God.
06:09It was.
06:10A long time.
06:10Thursday night against the Arizona Cardinals in 2023.
06:14So you're telling me.
06:15They won 2017.
06:16And he's done this in two games.
06:18The Bills played on Sunday?
06:20Five days.
06:20Okay, that's what I was going to say.
06:21Five days compared to 1,000 what?
06:24That's the tweet.
06:2578.
06:25Go ahead.
06:26I'll give you.
06:27You go ahead and you do it.
06:28And count.
06:28We got to do it during the break.
06:30We got work to do still here.
06:32I don't want to do that.
06:32That's sobering.
06:34That's 616 in the morning.
06:36Technically 79 now this morning.
06:38Would Josh be what he is now?
06:43Well, I.
06:43Is he so undeniable early on in his career that he would have overcome the issues that he had.
06:50Remember, his accuracy was terrible.
06:52His mechanics were terrible when he came out.
06:55And this, last night, just watching him go.
06:58And I know now, you know, Detroit, their last.
07:01I'm going to say yes.
07:02Their last six quarters.
07:03They have given up.
07:04I'm going to say yes.
07:05A bunch of touchdowns.
07:06You know why?
07:06But he just feels like he cannot be stopped.
07:10I'm going to say yes.
07:11And the reason is, is because he would have went out there.
07:14And I remember the time he played us.
07:16I always made the joke.
07:17He looked like a drunk peeing in the snow the way he was throwing the football.
07:21But there's obviously there's talent there, right?
07:23That was years ago.
07:24We won that game.
07:25We had Freddie.
07:26Now that was year two.
07:27The reason I bring this up is that you wouldn't have hired Freddie if you had Josh Allen.
07:31Because Josh Allen was so much wilder than Baker was like on the field.
07:36Like you would have been like, hey, we're not going to give Josh Allen a seat at the table.
07:40Like they gave Baker a seat at the table and it really started to sow the seeds of discontent.
07:45And as Todd Munkin has said it himself, not about Baker, but you wasted 2019.
07:49You had great talent on that 2019 team.
07:51Like Padone earlier this week wanted to make a comparison already between this team and 2019.
07:57I had to say, I was like, Nick, you've got to look at the talent compared to the talent on
08:00this one.
08:01It's not comparable.
08:022019 is a bigger waste than this year will ever be.
08:04Considering the type of players that you had.
08:06You had very good players that could have made a nice playoff run and you weren't able to do any
08:11of it because you were incompetent at the biggest leadership positions.
08:16If Josh Allen is taken in 2018, you don't hire Freddie because you don't give Josh Allen a seat at
08:22the table.
08:23They wouldn't have done that.
08:24I don't think they would have.
08:25So you probably would have hired somebody.
08:27Maybe you would have hired Stefanski a year earlier.
08:30Maybe we aren't talking about Stefanski in Atlanta anymore.
08:32Like, I think Josh Allen would still be Josh Allen.
08:35Yeah, I really do.
08:37Because at that time, they would have made the moves before they were trying to raise people right.
08:42Josh Allen would still be Josh Allen.
08:44So, yeah, if somebody says the biggest mistake they made is not drafting Josh Allen.
08:49The biggest mistake they made was trading for Deshaun Watson.
08:51I don't give a damn.
08:52But you're just going down the line.
08:54Yeah, it was a mistake to not draft Josh Allen.
08:57Absolutely.
08:58Absolutely.
08:58And I didn't want him to draft Josh Allen number one overall.
09:01So I'm not going to say that I was right.
09:03I was not right on that.
09:03This is a revisionist history for us.
09:05I was wrong on that.
09:07Had his coach on and everything, and still were like, nah, no.
09:10Take Baker Mayfield.
09:11But Todd Haley said he wanted – he said he was trying to tell everybody.
09:15Josh Allen has said a lot of things.
09:16Or, excuse me, Todd Haley has said a lot of things.
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