00:02well now you can be sad morning morning kenny audio courtesy of uh tbs hi
00:10rough one rough uh rough end of the series don't life comes at you fast
00:18and it does yeah it does
00:26okay what are you gonna say something or am i gonna say oh it seemed like you were
00:29contemplating a thought there i just do i want to jump right into the whole
00:35heron festa thing do i want to jump into the whole bybee thing
00:41well i want to jump into the whole not hidden thing i gotta say the bybee thing seems ridiculous
00:46we we had the phone lines open for four hours yesterday um we had a few callers about by about
00:50the setup it was not a deluge of they've got to start bybee i did not get that sentiment before
00:55the game and then because what they did didn't work then after the game it was the deluge
00:59starting bybee wasn't a big thing there were a couple people who said to start bybee but like
01:06when they said that sean armstrong was going to pitch i immediately thought of daryl
01:10and sean armstrong certainly did strong things and then it was it i'm there is i i don't think a
01:19lot
01:19of fans have confidence in bybee there is no confidence it is a vote of no confidence when
01:24matt fest is out there and tim heron looks like he's about to cry tim heron looks like a little
01:28league baseball player about to cry does he or does he not they they they they so so so obvious
01:36like you could see it on this entire on this entire rotation the entire bullpen like if anybody ever
01:43asked hey what does it look like when a team is out of gas you just just show that game
01:48that was it
01:49that was out of the game i mean even all the way down to our unhittable closer whose velocity was
01:54down
01:55and you're like oh we would have to play another series after this we'd have to play another game
01:59yeah after this like no this should be the end of careers that's how out of gas they were like
02:05this
02:05should be the final swan song before they they get the commemorative party everything that's how out
02:11of gas they were oh man it was the notion that they would have had to play another game today
02:15and
02:15then another full seven game series after this just would have seen you're blaming it on the on the gas
02:20the lack thereof i'm i'm blaming it on unfortunately and this happens with when when you have young
02:27pitchers too this happens with teams like this and unfortunately we're always going to be young
02:31come this time of year uh you you were down to how many starting pitchers listen it doesn't by the
02:39end
02:39of the year they they don't have the firepower that that tampa has i understand that when it comes to
02:45their lineup so it's not the only reason all right i just it just felt like such a a downer
02:52like
02:53sean armstrong starts off great and then i see joey cantillo warming up after heron and festa and
03:01you're just like why didn't you go to joey cantillo what because again they they're fans have very little
03:07if any confidence in festa or heron they have confidence they have some confidence in joey
03:15cantillo they have some confidence in the other guys i mean sean armstrong before the postseason
03:20that he was that he had to do that during the postseason that's fair and it's not like the only
03:26reason they lost but i think it's going to be the overwhelming conversation as we go until the lockout
03:32starts then the lockout's going to be the conversation but i mean it every everything
03:39that i had seen when they lose a game or when they you know when they were down to nothing
03:44against the
03:45white socks all that stuff came back like heron then festa then steven vote needs to go to seattle
03:52like that's that's that was the natural order of things and so by the time you get to cantillo i'm
03:58like man if it already feels like the wind is out of her sails it really does and it just
04:03felt like
04:04the onslaught was on and i there were some people i mean they were already like listen if you're either
04:10either kill us now don't sit there and do paper cuts here let's either jump back in this game or
04:17just murder us now and then that's the end of it so i mean that's that's the way it is
04:20it sucks
04:21it sucks now see this is why i didn't want to be sad yesterday because i'm sad today because now
04:26it
04:26is over so now i have a legitimate reason to be sad yesterday i had a reason to be concerned
04:31but
04:31i still had a football team that won and so i could enjoy it you don't get to enjoy any
04:36day now you're
04:37just sad forever it seems i don't know when you're going to be happy again if the calves win later
04:42this
04:42week maybe you'll be happy but i don't know it is just a dark cloud on that side of the
04:47studio i mean
04:48isn't it's not about everybody who's not who's not who's not very very sad well no but it's been
04:53i'm missing but no everybody said my baseball team not getting knocked out of the alcs no every
04:57when they had a 2-1 lead you weren't listening because i said now you have a reason to be
05:00sad
05:01today i know but you said you said there's a dark cloud over here but not over there like what
05:04do
05:04what is that well no at least i was happy yesterday now there's a dark cloud over here because you
05:08were happy there's just been storm clouds were you happy because you didn't really think the
05:11guardians were going to win anyway so it didn't matter why would i what i knew that they were
05:14underdogs why what what is the point don't it seems bizarre that you you he would have you
05:21would have said here comes defense mechanism tone it's a it's because i could not believe you
05:25weren't more mad yesterday i couldn't believe that you were acting like the series wasn't it's
05:29because i thought the series was lost i'll be honest i said the winner of game of of game four
05:34felt to me like that was it well if you lost that game if that's i felt like there were
05:39monumental
05:40stakes and it seemed like you were just casually dismissing an alcs loss like it was no big deal
05:45there was no there was no casual anything of it i don't think i do anything casually you didn't
05:50seem that upset yesterday by it but i'm like because i wasn't i was concerned but i wasn't
05:54sad you were sad as if the series was already lost because i kind of now the series is lost
05:59now you can be sad if you want to try to turn it on me okay but i'm gonna knock
06:04it down you said
06:04there was a dark cloud on this side of studio there is a dark cloud nobody i know it's not
06:08it was a dark cloud yesterday too there was there was gray clouds over me yesterday now it's dark
06:13clouds over all of us because of you i well not because of you i mean you didn't manage the
06:18team and
06:18you didn't not hit baseballs and you know you didn't give up runs and you didn't do any of that
06:22stuff yeah i think i think we all knew yesterday that uh two days ago that was it when they
06:27lost
06:28that game it felt like that was it you sit there and say we all knew as if you didn't
06:32host the four
06:33hours with me and said it and said it throughout the four hours of which you accused me of having
06:37a dark cloud and i disagreed with you that's how it works and i disagreed with you for four hours
06:41did you hey listen i know you're sad wait a second i know you're sad you want to turn it
06:45on me
06:45blame me i'm the one who lost it on me today you go ahead and turn it on i don't
06:50know did you hear
06:50owen a pep rally from ken yesterday for the guards i didn't hear it did i not say that they
06:55had a
06:55chance all the time did i not say i have a chance but i also said did i also say
07:00exactly him with
07:01confidence because they were starting shot because you knew it was yes that's so they weren't starting
07:07so you think i was gonna be over the moon why are you so sad you think i was gonna
07:11be excited
07:18all right all right you got you got it here are the absurdity of what you got it just the
07:23exercise
07:23that ken just tried to go through i'm the one who spent four hours being a sad bastard yesterday but
07:28i'm the one who's ready but you wanted to put on a good face no i did not no i
07:31did not hand to god
07:32have i ever not told the truth i wasn't hearing the kiss my ass that's untrue and you know it
07:39you know
07:40it's patently untrue but you do what you always do the texas a&m you do what you always do
07:44you
07:44turn it on exactly hear that from 10 years you turn it on me always always okay it just stinks
07:50kenny that's all fine fine fine fine it stinks it it to put it on me to drop i'm not
07:56putting it on you
07:56they dropped three in a row when you felt like you had command of the series when you were up
08:01really
08:01the jose error in game two i know we were building five statues for him and we still want to
08:07and he's
08:08still been an unbelievable player that error in game two just feels extra costly does it not and
08:14i know you're not here without him and all that stuff thank god you know he turned it around in
08:17the white socks series but if he fields that ball cleanly in game two are we having different
08:23conversations i don't know we were gassed anyway so maybe maybe we get gas it's tough to to pull one
08:28one issue it sucks that's why we're screaming today it's why we're screaming yelling it's no fun
08:33it's no fun it's no fun to lose like that sorry to put you guys through that i just as
08:38i said
08:38yesterday you'd never know when you're gonna get back to this i don't even know if they're gonna
08:42have an alcs next year i have no idea i hope cooler you know calmer heads prevail and they they
08:47somehow
08:47put together a season but they're gonna put all of you through all of this and this this was a
08:53honestly kenny you know what it was we've seen world series stolen before but you just said i wrote
08:59that down go ahead you were talking we've seen we've seen some results in the world series that
09:05end up looking nothing like anything you've seen all year and man i got greedy that bracket when
09:11people started saying have you guys checked the bracket with like three weeks two weeks to go oh
09:16and i think yeah you were you were one of them like have you seen this bracket like all you
09:20have
09:20to do is beat the white socks and you're in the alcs and then in the alcs not gonna be
09:24easy nobody
09:25ever thought it was gonna be easy but you know remember the red socks at one point
09:29were unbeatable the the yankees you know the air and judge thing obviously changed but we're like
09:34you just have to beat the rays and you're gonna be you're gonna have more home fans than them
09:38in tampa like you'll you'll you'll have a chance which they did earlier in the series it sounded
09:43like guardians home games and you're like this it's never been easier all you have to do is i think
09:47it sounded like a guardians home game last night did you no not last night no it was that it
09:51definitely it definitely shifted from earlier in the series listen i'm absolutely louder than you
09:56but it didn't mean that not a lot of people agreed with you because did they just fly down for
10:02the
10:02first two games of the series or are they already there and they were like yeah i wondered about that
10:06too yeah it's tearing us apart i'm sorry it sucks i'm sorry well i i'm glad you you know you
10:12brought
10:12that up and i wrote that down actually i said because i you know i was it a successful season
10:18and i want
10:19to make the argument at some point not right now at 6 13 right after they lose that it might
10:25have
10:25been however i did write listen i might have thought it was but everybody like can i blame you
10:31for being despondent can i blame you for hearing um who who who did you play in the open talking
10:37about momentum for next year and steven vote was saying like it hurts who did you have their own i'm
10:41sorry kwan kwan that was who was talking about okay and then gaddis i think all right i i just
10:50think there's a lot of guardians fans are like yeah like it's a sport where you just can't guarantee
10:55those things like part of the reason where i defend the guardians is like nothing's guaranteed to any
11:01team because of how the system works and it's certainly not guaranteed to a small market team but
11:07that's also part of the reason you're like yeah you know what this is really sad this is really a
11:11bad day bad day well and then the part of it is feels like they're they're the same as us
11:16they've
11:16been better all year we can be honest and uh right up until we had the 2-1 lead i'm
11:21like maybe the
11:21rays aren't as good as i thought they were over the course of of the rest of the series you
11:25saw why
11:26they are who they are they're so damn good defensively uh man even when kwan got on yesterday i thought
11:32they were gonna make the play up the middle like i in the first inning i was like shocked they
11:35didn't
11:35make a play once because they they've made it every single time and they do have you know more pop
11:41at the top of that order i mean yandy diaz and eventually over the course of the series you
11:46saw junior cabin arrow and why why what makes them so tough but talk about him at 640 yeah that
11:53that
11:53their payroll is so low too it's just they don't they don't they don't have the fan base that we
11:59do
11:59that to go after that and plus now here they are with a chance to break through and win their
12:03first
12:03world series 2-1-6-4-7-4-0-92 what it what lost the series you just think they
12:09were better overall
12:10well in the end they were given a chance i think that's that is a big part of it right
12:14the longer
12:15the series went yeah i i think it's it's harder to beat a team that's better their arms were not
12:20taxed like our that's 100 they also didn't throw out of order we threw out of order yeah tim heron
12:28is
12:28not a second inning pitcher no he's not you know matt festa is not a second inning pitcher you're pretty
12:33mad about that aren't you uh i'm not mad about it i just you know you have starters on the
12:38roster
12:38for a reason probably should let him start the game so you felt the same way when you saw joey
12:44cantillo warming up you're going what is he doing now you know and it's not that i'm upset that he
12:50didn't start by me i do wonder why the hell he's on the roster if we're not even going to
12:54pitch him
12:57the opening day guy who as i drove in this morning down east ninth looked over on the
13:03players that are you know 30 foot tall on the side of progressive field and he's one of he's the
13:10only pitcher up there at least it was jose that's going to change no yeah well obviously well my thing
13:17is let me run it by you guys this is why i was perplexed and i think this is why
13:21a lot of people
13:22were perplexed i mean it owned social media and i was like okay i i've seen enough you know where
13:26i'm gonna watch the game now is okay you open up with sean armstrong but you just you just mentioned
13:33confidence all right if it's a crisis of confidence who who do we have confidence in
13:38and i just think that many many many many many many many many more if you weren't like if you
13:43were
13:43going to pitch guys that you don't have a lot of confidence in or the fans don't have a lot
13:47of
13:47confidence in you're like well tanner bobby's at least a starter so if you're going to go with
13:52heron or festa pitched in the playoffs why wouldn't you go with bybee and if you were
13:57previously yeah it's not this not this season and if you were exactly and if you were sticking with
14:02guys who you were talking about confidence in i think everybody and i'm sure there's somebody out
14:09there because it's baseball that can find me some advanced metrics to tell me that this statement is
14:13about to be wrong but i think that the vast majority of fans would have more confidence in the second
14:18inning if joey cantillo goes out there a guy who can start who might be able to do two three
14:25and four
14:26instead of what they did instead of tim heron who just i i know he's a grown man again he
14:32he he looks
14:34like a 12 year old at the little league world series that just can't pitch strikes and then you have
14:39matt festa who nobody has any confidence in no my fellow italian and nobody has confidence nobody at
14:47the columbus day parade hey get fredo just because he was in the bloodline didn't mean he could lead
14:53the family okay that's right i'm a pitcher i can do things i know you think you can't think i
15:02can't
15:02pitch in the playoffs but i can not like a started pitcher but no not like that all right two
15:10one six
15:10four seven four to below 92 what lost this series it won't be a lot of people blaming vote well
15:16hold
15:17on we just did all this i know we got to go to break and then we got to go
15:20to the phones i want to get
15:20reaction yeah how many runs did we score not after game one not many we were we were talking all
15:27pitching and it's because we know the pitching has to be spectacular i know to make up for the
15:32offense but the offense turned into what we saw a lot of the year did it not yeah seven in
15:38heaven
15:38seven o'clock you got the bronze in there oh of course i do all right but where of course
15:44i do
15:44you'll find out at seven who we blaming for this or what are we blaming for this it can be
15:48multiple
15:48things ken carmen anthony lima live in the fan
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