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The K&C Masterpiece debated whether the Dallas Cowboys' season is officially over, the Chicago Bears are the best NFC team, if Jonathan Taylor will be traded, and more in this edition of NFL Overreaction or Reality.
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00:00Fancy Masterpiece right here on 105.3 The Fan right now.
00:03It's time for NFL overreaction or reality, and we start with this.
00:09Overreaction or reality.
00:11The Dallas Cowboys season is O-V-E-R over.
00:18Well, Kevin, I mean, you see, I do have these screws that I can now put into this table.
00:23Your table is irreplaceably broken.
00:26No, no.
00:28So, I am just missing one entire leg of the table.
00:32Okay.
00:32All right, so now it's a three-legged table.
00:34That missing leg is Malachi Lawrence because Shadi said,
00:38yeah, it looks like it's going to be a few weeks.
00:41That stinks.
00:44But, you know, whenever you are relying on a rookie to cover that much ground,
00:49I know it's a first-round pick, but even still, like,
00:51you're saying that's the best option is the rookie
00:54because we don't have anybody else that can do the job as well.
00:59Pretty much.
01:00It's problematic.
01:01But that's, you know, that's the salary cap.
01:04It makes that if you had never created a salary cap.
01:07Other teams seem to be okay.
01:08Um, so, I don't think it's over just because anything could happen, dude.
01:17Alec, you probably know my thoughts on this.
01:19This is a big, fat reality, but let's go to you.
01:23Overreaction to reality.
01:24The Dallas Cowboys season is O-V-E-R over.
01:28What are you doing, Kevin?
01:30What are you doing?
01:31You know it's a big, fat overreaction because you know exactly what's going to happen.
01:38The trade deadline is looming.
01:40You're going to add a pass rusher.
01:43It's going to be one of three or four guys that we've talked about at length already.
01:49Max Crosby, Josh Sweat.
01:51If they're comfortable with trading for an injured Yaya Diaby,
01:55they're a player, heck, they could go outside linebacker Alex Highsmith.
02:00Let's make our fourth deal with the Steelers in what, like a year?
02:03Let's go ahead and do that.
02:05That's going to happen.
02:06You're going to go on a little streak, and you're going to stumble into the playoffs
02:11just like the Astros did in the AL West.
02:14I just, I read part of this text from the 9-5-1, all this talk about Rex and Tomlin.
02:20And if you mean Rex Ryan, the idea that any team would hire him to do anything is laughable to
02:27me.
02:27He is terrible at coaching defense.
02:31Terrible.
02:32Earned a reputation, coasted off of that for, I don't know, like 15 years.
02:36He sucks at coaching defense and would do nothing for this team.
02:41He gives a great speech every couple months on ESPN.
02:45Oh, great.
02:45Wait, we already have a coach who can give great speeches but not get the job done.
02:55NFL overreaction or reality?
02:57This comes with some information.
02:59Did you know that the Chicago Bears are the first team in NFL history
03:02to beat both of the previous year's Super Bowl participants in back-to-back games in prime time?
03:10Overreaction or reality, the Chicago Bears are the best team in the NFC?
03:20Um, yes.
03:23I think, I mean, I still think San Francisco has their hat in the ring.
03:28I hear you.
03:29But, I think the Bears have a coach that is obsessed with winning.
03:39And, I think Shanahan, like, really wants to win and is very good and very smart.
03:44But, right now, you have a head coach in Ben Johnson that is maniacally obsessed with this.
03:53Like, in a, it's not healthy, but whenever he does win, everybody goes,
03:57well, I guess that's how you have to be.
03:59Right.
03:59So, that's, like, this is Michael Jordan level, I have to create stupid things in my mind.
04:05Yes.
04:06So, I can defeat you because tonight's too easy for me.
04:09And, I would probably lay off.
04:11But, he, like, look how prepared he had his team for last night's game.
04:16That's the one that, like, that, and I know Seattle's not, it's an imperfect team.
04:20Sure.
04:21In a lot of different ways.
04:22But, he has a really good defensive, like, a really good defensive coordinator.
04:25And, they just put the boots to the Chiefs?
04:27Yeah, dude.
04:28So, like, this, like, I think that, and they have a quarterback right now that looks like
04:33he's just as obsessed as his head coach.
04:36So.
04:36I, that's a great point.
04:39Alec, NFL overreaction to reality.
04:41The Chicago Bears are the best team in the NFC.
04:46Reality, because I really thought that Seattle was going to take that crown again.
04:50I, I don't know if it was specifically the Quentin Nelson trade.
04:54I don't think it was.
04:55I didn't, it's a good move.
04:56It's not earth-shattering.
04:58I, I thought the running back room getting healthy to try to take some of the responsibility
05:03away from Sam Darnold because he is looking like Sam Darnold again.
05:08I thought that was going to help getting Jadarian Price and Zach Charbonnet back out there.
05:14I thought that was going to be a big deal.
05:15And then Chicago said, hold my beer, times 10.
05:18Yeah.
05:19They look like they have pretty much no weakness right now.
05:23The secondary, it's week to week with them.
05:27That's the one thing I can nitpick.
05:29They make the huge trade for Jeffrey Simmons, and he immediately wrecks the game.
05:33So he had six tackles, one sack, two tackles for loss, and he drew a lot of attention as
05:41well to allow other Bears to pivot and get home on Sam Darnold.
05:45Did you hear what he said last night, too, after the game about he, he was in the dad
05:49gum facility trying to get the playbook down all night until at least 10 o'clock?
05:55Like, he got there immediately and was like, I got work to do.
05:58I mean.
05:58As obsessed as his head coach.
05:59He was given the gift of going from one of the worst NFL teams to one of the best NFL
06:05teams.
06:05Yeah.
06:07NFL overreaction or reality.
06:10Jonathan Taylor will be traded by the deadline.
06:13So the NFL trade deadline is in a week.
06:16It is at 3 p.m. central.
06:19So overreaction or reality.
06:20Jonathan Taylor will be traded by the deadline.
06:25In my fantasy league, I hope.
06:27I really need that running back.
06:29If he's not traded, I don't know if he's a good fantasy running back for the rest of
06:33the year.
06:34Do you think he's just going to be like...
06:35Not him, but the offensive line's not as good without Quentin Nelson.
06:41Right.
06:41Sure.
06:42And maybe that's the case.
06:43But I think so.
06:48I think he's worth a first.
06:51Okay.
06:51If I'm a team that is like, I'm that-a-way.
06:55If you're Bengals, Vikings.
06:57Yeah, but there aren't enough teams that are going to be willing to do that.
07:02So I think he is, but I don't think they're going to get the price they really want for
07:06him.
07:06Yeah.
07:07And that's the tough thing, right?
07:08Because if it's a team that's going to trade for him, you're going to be hesitant to take
07:12the second because they're probably really good.
07:15And that's going to be end of the second round.
07:18All right, Alec, we go to you.
07:21Overreaction or reality?
07:23Jonathan Taylor will be traded by the deadline.
07:27It's a great time to remind you that trade deadline talk on 105 Through the Fan is brought
07:31to you by the hands-free sketcher slip-ins.
07:34Just step in and go.
07:36I say reality because when there's smoke, there's a fire somewhere and there is a fire sale going
07:43on in Indianapolis.
07:45I think it happens because it doesn't make any sense.
07:48And I feel like that's the type of organization that likes to do right by the player and say,
07:53hey, this is going nowhere.
07:55We're sorry that you signed this contract.
07:58We're going to let you live it out with somebody that you could have a couple shots at winning
08:01with.
08:02I think there's a lot of teams in the NFC that make a ton of sense for him.
08:06And there was some whispers over the weekend about maybe a multiple player trade involving
08:11him.
08:12So it could get real weird real quick.
08:14And I think he does go somewhere.
08:16NFL overreaction or reality?
08:19Sunday was the worst loss of the season for the Cowboys.
08:25And is the prime competitor Tampa?
08:30Yeah, because Tampa set up what Green Bay did to you.
08:35And then Green Bay did to you what Arizona should have done to you.
08:39But Arizona then did something different to you.
08:42They put you in a different position.
08:45Yep.
08:46I'm going to say that one's the worst one.
08:48And I only think losing to the Colts will be worse than that.
08:52And just for the record, I want to say this.
08:54Whenever we talk about there's a lot of season left, you're going into week nine.
08:58The Cowboys have one win over a team that had a win at the time.
09:04One.
09:06Alec?
09:07Until you get another one.
09:09Sure.
09:10Then you'll have two.
09:11Yep.
09:12That'll be neat.
09:13Then you get another one.
09:14I don't know about that.
09:14Just stack them up.
09:16They just won't be in succession because Shotties teams don't do that.
09:18The table's complete, Kevin.
09:20Stop it.
09:21You can't fix your busted ass table.
09:24Alec, overreaction or reality?
09:26This is the worst loss of the season for the Dallas Cowboys.
09:29You know what's some really good broadcasting that I hate that you do?
09:33Is when Corey gives his response and then you follow up with another damning fact.
09:38And then you're like, okay, now what's your thought?
09:41And I'm like, I already had a strong opinion.
09:43Now I just hate the question.
09:45Yeah, it's an absolute reality.
09:47I'm with Corey.
09:48Corey, we could fast forward a week and it could be even worse.
09:53But that was just, it was so deflating.
09:56I think that's the word I keep associating with it.
09:58Because not only did you have a lead, it felt like you established dominance at the beginning of the game
10:04too.
10:05Not just in terms of the score.
10:07It felt like you had a chokehold on that game.
10:10The number three overall draft pick was bottled up and removed from the game.
10:15You know, obviously not by design, but still.
10:18But even when he was fine, he was, you're right.
10:21They were stuffing him.
10:23So, yeah, that one's bad.
10:25And it's not going to get any worse in my mind.
10:28All right.
10:28So I went through a couple of variations of this prompt.
10:32This is what I'm going to start with and we'll go from there.
10:35Overreaction to reality, Lamar Jackson is done being elite for the Ravens.
10:42Man, I saw a line that said,
10:47Lamar Jackson is absolutely one of the best quarterbacks that I would never want on my team.
10:53Oh, man, that feels hurtful.
10:56But I get it.
10:57The injuries are a problem.
11:01Or I would be perfectly fine with my team staying away from him.
11:08I think so.
11:10Yeah, reality.
11:11Because Jesse Minter doesn't need him.
11:14Jesse Minter could probably definitely use a season where they get a better draft pick
11:21and move on and rebuild from there.
11:23Will he ever play for the Ravens again?
11:25Not this season.
11:27Is his contract up this year?
11:28So he has one more year in the contract.
11:30However, the guaranteed money has all been accelerated into this season.
11:35The no.
11:36And here's why.
11:37Because if you went ahead and moved on, your dead cap space is good, right?
11:41You'd still take a hit.
11:43It's not as significant.
11:44Yeah, I need to look into what that number is.
11:46But even still, then you can boot next year.
11:48You punt on that.
11:50And start your refresh process.
11:53And you don't have to deal with a guy that's probably going to have you in a worse, if
11:57he's healthy for a full season, have you in a worse situation for draft.
12:02That is fair.
12:03All right, Alec.
12:04We'll start with the elite one.
12:06Overreaction or reality?
12:08Lamar Jackson is done being elite for the Ravens.
12:12It's such an interesting question because I don't think he's done being elite, but I think
12:17he might be for the Ravens.
12:19And that is why I structured it that way.
12:21I could see him going somewhere else and still being good, but the Ravens saying, cool, we
12:27don't want an injured quarterback.
12:29So you have to pick right now.
12:30Will he play again for the Ravens?
12:32No, because they were already weird with his first contract situation.
12:36I think they're going to be just as weird with this one and say, I mean, we already moved
12:41the money for a reason.
12:42We can just punt.
12:44That second part is definitely true.
12:46All right.
12:47Overreaction or reality?
12:49This one's a bit odd.
12:50Mac Jones would be a better starting quarterback for the Vikings than Kyler Murray.
12:55And I know you're thinking, Mac Jones is not on the Vikings.
12:58And that's a fair point that you make.
13:00But the prompt remains what it is.
13:05Overreaction.
13:06I don't think either one of them would be good, but it would be slight no.
13:12I'll say Kyler Murray's still, again, I think the coach is playing to his defense in most
13:17of these instances and saying, we're going to do everything we can to let our defense
13:21win this.
13:22The Lions happen to know that team well and were able to win.
13:27And listening to Jared Goff before that game, I was like, oh, Jared Goff has got this figured
13:31out.
13:32He knew it was going to be a pain in the butt to win that game.
13:35And it was.
13:36But no, I still think go with Kyler.
13:38You don't have any good options anyway.
13:40I like the defeat.
13:41Trade for Dak.
13:42In your voice.
13:44Yeah.
13:45Overreaction or reality to you, Alec.
13:47I feel like you do this where you sit there with these and you're like, what's going to
13:51defeat Corey the most to try and answer this question?
13:54Well, clearly Alec thinks I do the same thing to him.
13:56Fine.
13:56I'll throw you a bonus question.
13:58Rick bonus.
13:59Vikings say we'll give you our first and second next year for Dak.
14:05Handshake it right now.
14:06Agreed.
14:08Alec.
14:09And again, I know people will be like, oh, like this is Dak's fault.
14:13I'm not saying it's Dak's fault, but it's clear one way or another, this team doesn't
14:18work.
14:18So why not just jumpstart your rebuild and give them off to a team that has an infinitely
14:25better defense?
14:26Because G-Bag was discussing yesterday.
14:27I mean, at this point, you've changed all the coaches out.
14:30Yeah.
14:31What point is it the quarterback?
14:33And I, by the way, I do not think Dak is blameless, but he would not be at the top
14:38of my list either.
14:39All right, Alec, we go to you.
14:41Overreaction reality.
14:42Mack Jones would be a better starting quarterback for the Vikings than Kyler Murray.
14:47Reality for the simple fact that Kevin O'Connell runs a pass first offense.
14:54Kyler Murray is not a pass first quarterback.
14:57That is true.
14:57Even after the major injury, he's still not a, let me take a three-step drop, survey a
15:04defense, and try to get through every progression before I tuck it and run.
15:08There's still a whole lot of, Justin Jefferson is bracketed right now.
15:13Let me roll out.
15:14You know, there's still a lot of that.
15:16And I think Mack Jones just fits the system more.
15:19He's not necessarily a better quarterback.
15:21I think he just fits.
15:23And the Vikings are evaluating Kyler Murray's hamstring.
15:26If the 49ers made it, let it be known that for a third, you could have Mack Jones.
15:32Would you do that?
15:34Well, you probably would not.
15:36Alec, would you make that deal if they were like, he's available, we want a third-round
15:40pick?
15:41That's a team that's ready to win right now.
15:43You pay the price.
15:44Okay.
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