00:00I'm just plotting my victory lap on the Browns at 8-9.
00:03You're taking your time.
00:05I thought it was actually, I thought it was a smart move,
00:07but not one I would have taken.
00:09I want them to get to 4-1, because once you get to 4-1...
00:13I know, but after the 3-1 start, Thursday night football against the Steelers,
00:16it was primo time to start handing out I-told-you-sos to everybody,
00:20and you didn't do that.
00:21Because, again, 4-1, or dare say, like if I get to that Monday,
00:26Lamar doesn't play on this Sunday,
00:28and it looks like he might miss one more game,
00:31which definitely feels like a possibility.
00:33I could get a 5-1 start for the Browns,
00:35which would mean they're already one game away from shattering Vegas' expectation.
00:40By the way, shattering, surpassing Vegas' expectation.
00:43The I-was-right would hit so much harder after a Ravens win,
00:48or at least just, again, 4-1 start as opposed to a 3-1 start.
00:51If I was dissecting this as a psychologist,
00:53I would tell you that there's something emotionally keeping you back in this one,
00:57because there's the idea that you can't go around telling everybody,
01:01I was right, I was right, I was right,
01:03and then if the bottom falls out, then what do you do?
01:06I'd go to the cabin again.
01:09Okay, you'd just disappear for a week.
01:11But no, it might have to be on the table.
01:12What's the bottom falling out?
01:14D.B. Cooper on this?
01:15Well, if you start in 3-1, you basically have to go, what, 5-8 the rest of the way?
01:21Just to meet the 8-9 threshold.
01:23That's kind of what made the 8-win prediction is if you were predicting 12 wins so funny to me.
01:28You keep minimizing it.
01:29I was talked about on air.
01:31I did this all day, by the way, or all summer.
01:33I did this the entire summer long.
01:34This is not like a new thing for me and being like,
01:368 wins, really stepping yourself out there.
01:39I had to call in to other shows to defend myself because they talked about my 8-9 prediction
01:45as if it was a Super Bowl prediction.
01:49And I had to call in and be like, what the hell are we doing here?
01:52But again, I will get my flowers here, certainly.
01:54I thought it was funny.
01:55Bucky Brooks did his top 10 power rankings and had the Browns 9th.
02:00I've seen other people go the opposite way where they have the Browns like 26th instead of 30th.
02:05Oh, really?
02:06Because Foreo had them 12th.
02:07I saw CBS Sports today had them at 15th.
02:10I thought we were getting a lot of love.
02:12Can I get to 20th?
02:13I'll take 20th.
02:14I think we are getting...
02:15Three-in-one start is...
02:17Who's putting us 25th?
02:18It was some guy.
02:20It is a guy that I know, but he's like an ancillary media member.
02:23He's like one of the Twitter football guys.
02:25Oh, well, screw that guy.
02:26Believe him.
02:27I don't even know his name.
02:27The reputable places are giving us a lot of respect.
02:30Again, Foreo is 12th.
02:31Too much respect.
02:31CBS Sports is...
02:32It was Prisco.
02:33Pete Prisco had his 15th.
02:34Yeah, I don't want that guy in my corner.
02:36You know what we think about Prisco.
02:37I don't want old Priskers, as I call him.
02:39I don't want him in my corner.
02:40Classic Priskers.
02:41But I do feel like the Browns are starting to get a lot of respect in a lot of places.
02:45And we're hitting at least in the better part of above average.
02:50If 16 out of 32 puts you average, we're hitting above that.
02:53Listen, three-in-one, if you want to put him 10th or if you want to put him 12th or
02:5715th, I get it.
02:59For me, I'm still going to take the cautious route.
03:01I'm going to play the concern...
03:03I'm going to lay up.
03:04I'm going to take the easy lay up and hopefully maybe a nice lay up and then a one-putter,
03:08right?
03:09I golfed really bad.
03:11I golfed really bad last week.
03:12You can't tell.
03:13But like right now...
03:14You're laying up the lay up?
03:16Yeah, well, yeah.
03:16You get a lay up and then the little dribbler.
03:19You're ready for the lay up.
03:20And then you really, you're like, all right, sweet enough around.
03:23And then you one-putt for a par.
03:24Sure, yeah.
03:25Yeah, you had birdie right there, but you played it super safe.
03:28You don't want to break the course record now, do you?
03:29No, no, no, no, no.
03:31Or have a, you know, par ever.
03:34But no, I mean, I'm here to say I think the Browns right now are a top 20 team.
03:38And I think whatever you fill in that blank in, I just...
03:42I think the higher you put them, the more risk you are at disappointment.
03:45I think 20 is the safe spot because that's kind of where I expected them to be most of this
03:50season.
03:51So are Bucky Brooks, Mike Florio, and Pete Prisco putting us in a bad spot?
03:55Yeah, I do think there's something about putting the expectations so high
04:01and us getting ahead of ourselves
04:03and then being really pissed about what should be seen as a step-forward kind of season.
04:07Because as we've talked about now, we're only two days into this week,
04:10but we've talked about it a decent amount,
04:11the idea that we're not even favorites in this Jets game, according to Vegas.
04:14And so, like, if you find a way...
04:16Because Geno looked awful last week, but he looked good the first three weeks of the season.
04:19So, like, I don't know.
04:21If good Geno happens and then you lose this game and then you face Lamar,
04:24like, if there's...
04:25Even though I don't think this is reality,
04:26I said last week I thought we'd be 5-2 is where we're going to end up this whole exercise
04:30with.
04:30But if you're 3-3, will Bucky Brooks turn around and not only drop us out of his top 10,
04:35but then put us 25th?
04:36I think that's what we'll probably...
04:38Like, if you had said before the season,
04:41hey, you're going to start this 3-3,
04:43we would have been over the moon as the start of the season
04:46with the offensive line, with Deshaun, with the young players,
04:50you know, figuring out the new defensive coordinator.
04:53But if you get there from starting at 3-1,
04:56I can just see the knee-jerk reaction coming already.
04:59And I'm just...
05:00I'm buckled into...
05:02Again, it's been a fun start to the season.
05:03And I do think, by the way,
05:05I think they should stay above 500
05:08for a considerable amount here.
05:10I mean, the next two games, you should probably split,
05:13at the very least.
05:14And that's...
05:14If Lamar's not starting at home,
05:16I'm meaning at home for the Browns in Week 6,
05:19maybe you should start 5-1, as crazy as that sounds.
05:22But at least it feels possible.
05:24I'm not...
05:25That shouldn't be the expectation.
05:27Maybe that's where it's like,
05:29let's not get lost in expectations
05:32because the idea that this thing's just going to linear
05:35and grow like that isn't reasonable.
05:37Well, the reality is that there's a lot of people out there
05:39that still don't believe in this Browns team
05:40even though they're 3-1.
05:42Like, there's a lot of...
05:42Not only advanced numbers, just raw data.
05:45Zach Jackson tweeted out some of the offensive
05:46and defensive numbers as a whole earlier today, Nick.
05:49And, like, offensively, we're 24th
05:52or somewhere in the 20s.
05:53Same thing with defensively.
05:54Like, there's a lot of reasons why we're 3-1,
05:57but there's also a lot of things
05:58that went the Browns' way to get to 3-1.
06:00By the way, thank you to...
06:01It was Roberto Shenanigans.
06:03It was Kevin Cole of Unexpected Points.
06:05I don't know who that is.
06:06I don't know who that is.
06:06He's... Unexpected points.
06:08Yeah.
06:09And his point that had the Browns
06:10at the 26th ranked team...
06:12How unexpected?
06:12Well, so unexpected.
06:13He had the Browns ranked 26th
06:15in his power rankings weeks.
06:17It's why no one's paying attention to him.
06:18That's true.
06:19Was he trying to hot take the Browns there?
06:21Is that what was happening?
06:22I mean, he moved them up two spots
06:24after the Steelers went.
06:25Was he attention farming with that?
06:27Is that what he was trying to do?
06:28Yeah, I think that's fair.
06:30Because, like, the people that actually do these rankings
06:31in are reputable sites.
06:33Again, Florio, Prisco, Bucky Brooks.
06:34You can say what you want about him, but, like...
06:36They don't have it anywhere close to 27th.
06:38All right.
06:38I don't think you're ready for this.
06:40All right.
06:40So the team one spot ahead of the Browns?
06:44Yeah.
06:44The Jets?
06:46Yeah.
06:46Okay?
06:47Okay.
06:48Two spots ahead, the Saints...
06:50And this is the unexpected guy?
06:52Yeah, this is the unexpected guy.
06:54Yeah.
06:55I wasn't expecting you!
06:58He came out of nowhere!
07:00What's the deal?
07:01Just a bad S&L bit.
07:03I was thinking bad Seinfeld.
07:05All right.
07:06So three spots ahead are the Raiders.
07:08So at least he's being consistent,
07:10bleeping all over teams that have had a fast start of the season.
07:12Have you looked at, like, Foreo's, though,
07:13and the teams are around with Foreo?
07:15He's got the Ravens as 10th and the Browns at 12th.
07:17Much more fun to talk about.
07:19All right.
07:20This one might actually set you off.
07:2122.
07:21So that's four spots ahead of the Browns.
07:23Yeah, yeah, yeah.
07:23The Chargers.
07:25Yeah, the Chargers are absolutely...
07:27They're the second-worst team in football.
07:28Yeah, but they're...
07:29Yeah, he has them ahead of the Browns.
07:31Yeah, it's awful.
07:31Yeah.
07:32At 0-4.
07:33Yeah, it's awful.
07:33Ahead of the Raiders, who are 3-1,
07:35and by the Raiders, the Raiders beat the Chargers.
07:37Yeah.
07:37And ahead of the Browns, who are 3-1.
07:39I think your guy at Unexpected is just trying to piss people off.
07:42Yeah.
07:42I think that's all he's doing there.
07:43He's just trying to...
07:44Or he's a big...
07:46He's just a big quarterback guy.
07:47He just ranks these people by quarterbacks,
07:48and that's all that is.
07:49I'm only going to be paying attention
07:50to expected points from now on.
07:53Unexpected points?
07:54I'd rather not expect them if that's how you're...
07:56If that's how I can expect you to, you know,
07:58handle yourself.
07:59Just gross.
